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Nov 12th, 2016 at 12:50pm
 
I am planning on moving the site over to a dedicated server. Once the move starts, any new posts made might be lost.

I will keep you updated. It has not started yet.
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Reply #1 - Nov 12th, 2016 at 1:29pm
 
new posts, you mean all my great works of the last 2 days likely to just vanish.. so today tomorrow next week..any idea at all?
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Reply #2 - Nov 12th, 2016 at 6:58pm
 
Agnes wrote on Nov 12th, 2016 at 1:29pm:
new posts, you mean all my great works of the last 2 days likely to just vanish.. so today tomorrow next week..any idea at all?


New posts refers to posts made after he copies the database over. If this site is still up, any new posts made after the DB dump won't be moved and will be lost when he terminates this server. Keep an eye out for the signal and don't post until FD gives the heads up on the new site if it's something you want kept.

Perhaps an IP address while DNS sorts it's self out FD?
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Reply #3 - Nov 12th, 2016 at 7:09pm
 
They are still setting up the new server for me. Might take 48 hours, just for that.
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Reply #4 - Nov 13th, 2016 at 2:35am
 
You are using mysql FD? If you had overlap of servers you could replicate the db so nothing was lost.
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-mysql-master-mast...

You'd also be half way there if another move ever happened to do another seamless change over.
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Reply #5 - Nov 13th, 2016 at 5:10am
 
Setanta wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 2:35am:
You are using mysql FD? If you had overlap of servers you could replicate the db so nothing was lost.
https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-mysql-master-mast...

You'd also be half way there if another move ever happened to do another seamless change over.



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Reply #6 - Nov 13th, 2016 at 7:34am
 
I have just submitted the move request, so any posts made from now on may be lost. Apparently it usually takes between 24 and 72 hours. Not sure if it is automated and therefor underway already.
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Reply #7 - Nov 13th, 2016 at 7:42am
 
For those who are interested, the new IP address is 162.144.110.142
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freediver wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 7:42am:
For those who are interested, the new IP address is 162.144.110.142


Interesting.

So you're shifting the site to Denver, Colorado where Marla hangs out with her flower-power hippie friends.
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Reply #9 - Nov 13th, 2016 at 8:14am
 
Hostgator just let me know they have started the process, which I assume means making the backup they will use to copy the site over, in which case new posts will almost certainly be lost.
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Reply #10 - Nov 13th, 2016 at 3:14pm
 
I thought one of my more incisive posts disappeared without trace..... buggar...
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 3:14pm:
I thought one of my more incisive posts disappeared without trace..... buggar...


It's the thought that counts, Grappler.

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Reply #12 - Nov 13th, 2016 at 7:37pm
 
I was hoping they might be underpromising and overdelivering, but no. The backup finished at about 2pm today, but the new server is still not up and running.

You can check it by putting this IP address into your address bar:

162.144.110.142

If this takes you to the site home page rather than an error message, that means the new server is up and running. You should be able to start using the forum on the new server by following the instructions here:

https://support.rackspace.com/how-to/modify-your-hosts-file/

Until I update the DNS details, you will be able to use that to check which posts have been lost. Just comment the relevant line in and out and resave the file to switch between the old and new host.
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Reply #13 - Nov 14th, 2016 at 7:53am
 
test

This is the new server.
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Reply #14 - Nov 14th, 2016 at 8:18am
 
You can access the old server using the instructions here:

https://support.rackspace.com/how-to/modify-your-hosts-file/

with this IP address:

198.57.138.216

The old server will go offline soon.
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Reply #15 - Nov 14th, 2016 at 4:52pm
 
FD that link is instructions for modifying your host file.

Is the old server still up? If so I'd like to access it if my lost posts can't be restored here.
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Reply #16 - Nov 14th, 2016 at 7:05pm
 
Yes it is still up. Looks like half our members are still posting away on the old server. My home ISP is still directing me to the old server.

THIS IS THE NEW SERVER.
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Reply #17 - Nov 14th, 2016 at 7:07pm
 
freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2016 at 7:05pm:
Yes it is still up. Looks like half our members are still posting away on the old server. My home ISP is still directing me to the old server.

THIS IS THE NEW SERVER.


So.....if I can post here, that means I am moved to the new server?
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Reply #18 - Nov 14th, 2016 at 7:13pm
 
Yes.
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freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2016 at 7:13pm:
Yes.


Thank ferk fer that.  I did nothing to get here so I wonder why others aren't.
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Reply #20 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 10:32am
 
Crazy stuff.  Now posting using the laptop.  I'll now make the same post in this same Thread using the desktop.
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Where's the link to the new server?
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Reply #22 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:17pm
 
You are accessing the new server now. See the pinned global announcement if you are unsure.

Both servers have the same URL. You need to edit your hosts file to switch between them. See instructions earlier in this thread, or the pinned, thread.
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freediver wrote on Nov 14th, 2016 at 7:05pm:
Yes it is still up. Looks like half our members are still posting away on the old server. My home ISP is still directing me to the old server.

THIS IS THE NEW SERVER.


My ISP directs my laptop (which I am using now) to the new server, but directs my desktop to the old server.
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Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 11:46am:
Where's the link to the new server?


Exactly.  Put that link on both servers FD....nay that will sort it out.  We can all then bookmark the new link.
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freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:17pm:
You are accessing the new server now. See the pinned global announcement if you are unsure.

Both servers have the same URL. You need to edit your hosts file to switch between them. See instructions earlier in this thread, or the pinned, thread.


Stuffed if I can see those instructions.
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Reply #26 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:55pm
 
was the change/will the change be worth it though..we have lost cods and I'm sure a few others
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Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:36pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:17pm:
You are accessing the new server now. See the pinned global announcement if you are unsure.

Both servers have the same URL. You need to edit your hosts file to switch between them. See instructions earlier in this thread, or the pinned, thread.


Stuffed if I can see those instructions.


Okay, found them and followed them and got to a point where I had no idea what to do next.  You'll see what I got to on the 'Old Server' ~ 'This is the Old Server' Thread.
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Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:58pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:36pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:17pm:
You are accessing the new server now. See the pinned global announcement if you are unsure.

Both servers have the same URL. You need to edit your hosts file to switch between them. See instructions earlier in this thread, or the pinned, thread.


Stuffed if I can see those instructions.


Okay, found them and followed them and got to a point where I had no idea what to do next.  You'll see what I got to on the 'Old Server' ~ 'This is the Old Server' Thread.


What do you want to go to the old server for if I may ask?
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Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:03pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:58pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:36pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:17pm:
You are accessing the new server now. See the pinned global announcement if you are unsure.

Both servers have the same URL. You need to edit your hosts file to switch between them. See instructions earlier in this thread, or the pinned, thread.


Stuffed if I can see those instructions.


Okay, found them and followed them and got to a point where I had no idea what to do next.  You'll see what I got to on the 'Old Server' ~ 'This is the Old Server' Thread.


What do you want to go to the old server for if I may ask?


I don't.  FD will need to to see what I got when I tried his directions.

I am posting this on the laptop where I am on the new server, even though I did nothing.

On my desktop, last night, I was on the new server, and early this morniong, but later was on the old server, and did nothing to achieve that.

What I  just do nothing FD.  Will it all get sorted to the new server no matter what I do.

BTW....I just googled OzPolitic on the desktop and got sent to the old server.
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Reply #30 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:19pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:12pm:
Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:03pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:58pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:36pm:
freediver wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 12:17pm:
You are accessing the new server now. See the pinned global announcement if you are unsure.

Both servers have the same URL. You need to edit your hosts file to switch between them. See instructions earlier in this thread, or the pinned, thread.


Stuffed if I can see those instructions.


Okay, found them and followed them and got to a point where I had no idea what to do next.  You'll see what I got to on the 'Old Server' ~ 'This is the Old Server' Thread.


What do you want to go to the old server for if I may ask?


I don't.  FD will need to to see what I got when I tried his directions.

I am posting this on the laptop where I am on the new server, even though I did nothing.

On my desktop, last night, I was on the new server, and early this morniong, but later was on the old server, and did nothing to achieve that.

What I  just do nothing FD.  Will it all get sorted to the new server no matter what I do.

BTW....I just googled OzPolitic on the desktop and got sent to the old server.


Have you cleared you cache (History) on the one still accessing the old server, that is usually what makes that sort of thing occur.

May also have been you clicked on a favourite that was the old site
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I'll give that a go even though you said you tried that and it did not work.
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Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
I'll give that a go even though you said you tried that and it did not work.


Did not work.  Desktop still on old server.
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It might be that it can't be rescued, it is Lost in Space ..Aussie get that life raft ready to your site ok, or Monks, what ever work's.?
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Agnes wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:30pm:
It might be that it can't be rescued, it is Lost in Space ..Aussie get that life raft ready to your site ok, or Monks, what ever work's.?


Weird thing is:  In typing this, I am using the lap top, and I'm on the new server, and all is well. 

When I log into OzPol on the desk top, I am on the old server.  There are a few stuck there.  Mr Hammer, Mechanic, Mothra to name a few.  Redmond Neck is there now as well.
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Reply #35 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:36pm
 
Just got a message from Redmond Neck at the old server.  He was in the middle of typing something here, and was suddenly shafted to the old server!!!

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Reply #36 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:42pm
 
Old server - new server - it's all looking exactly the same to me.
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we are all doomed...i don't know which server i am on..nor do i care. Cool
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Well I have had a trip around the www, just switched to the old for about 15minutes (4 users online) and now back on the new as this topic has reappeared and lots of users
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My guess is freediver is experimenting in trying to solve the issues!
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Agnes wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:43pm:
we are all doomed...i don't know which server i am on..nor do i care. Cool


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Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
Well I have had a trip around the www, just switched to the old for about 15minutes (4 users online) and now back on the new as this topic has reappeared and lots of users


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Agnes wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:43pm:
we are all doomed...i don't know which server i am on..nor do i care. Cool


You'll care if you are on the old one.  Only a handfull there.
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Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:55pm:
Agnes wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:43pm:
we are all doomed...i don't know which server i am on..nor do i care. Cool


You'll care if you are on the old one.  Only a handfull there.


....and now my desktop is back at the new server.   This was typed on the desktop.

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......and laptop is also still on the new server.  I'll not get off the lap top.

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Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:54pm:
Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
Well I have had a trip around the www, just switched to the old for about 15minutes (4 users online) and now back on the new as this topic has reappeared and lots of users


Did you do anything?


No just suddenly showed an error and then clicked back and was back on the new
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Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 2:49pm:
Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:54pm:
Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
Well I have had a trip around the www, just switched to the old for about 15minutes (4 users online) and now back on the new as this topic has reappeared and lots of users


Did you do anything?


No just suddenly showed an error and then clicked back and was back on the new


I did not get any error and had no need to go 'back.'  Just as suddenly as I was booted (on the desk top) to the old server, I was booted back to the new.
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Reply #47 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 3:20pm
 
I can't imagine WHY Freediver would tell you to "try a different computer" .... I think he was being facetious. FD does have a very dry sense of humour.  Grin Grin

He did say here somewhere that it might take an extra 24 hours before everything is "sorted" here ... or whatever.   Cool

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Reply #48 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 3:23pm
 
Neferti wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 3:20pm:
I can't imagine WHY Freediver would tell you to "try a different computer" .... I think he was being facetious. FD does have a very dry sense of humour.  Grin Grin

He did say here somewhere that it might take an extra 24 hours before everything is "sorted" here ... or whatever.   Cool

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................ or, Aussie, you could try logging into OzPol on your lenovo laptop (why is that any different to my Toshiba?), the desktop, the iPhone, the tablet and anything else you have that connects to the Net via wi fi ....  Roll Eyes


I don't know why he asked me to do that either.  But.....when I did I could access PA using the lap top.

If you read my posts, you'd know that my desk top is now back onto the new server, and I did nothing.

You always have to snark, don't you.  Just can't help your self.
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Re: possible downtime and lost posts
Reply #49 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 3:31pm
 
Neferti wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 3:20pm:
I can't imagine WHY Freediver would tell you to "try a different computer" .... I think he was being facetious. FD does have a very dry sense of humour.  Grin Grin

He did say here somewhere that it might take an extra 24 hours before everything is "sorted" here ... or whatever.   Cool

Remain CALM ...




................ or, Aussie, you could try logging into OzPol on your lenovo laptop (why is that any different to my Toshiba?), the desktop, the iPhone, the tablet and anything else you have that connects to the Net via wi fi ....  Roll Eyes

I think he is very funny..
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Re: possible downtime and lost posts
Reply #50 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 3:35pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 3:23pm:
Neferti wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 3:20pm:
I can't imagine WHY Freediver would tell you to "try a different computer" .... I think he was being facetious. FD does have a very dry sense of humour.  Grin Grin

He did say here somewhere that it might take an extra 24 hours before everything is "sorted" here ... or whatever.   Cool

Remain CALM ...




................ or, Aussie, you could try logging into OzPol on your lenovo laptop (why is that any different to my Toshiba?), the desktop, the iPhone, the tablet and anything else you have that connects to the Net via wi fi ....  Roll Eyes


I don't know why he asked me to do that either.  But.....when I did I could access PA using the lap top.

If you read my posts, you'd know that my desk top is now back onto the new server, and I did nothing.

You always have to snark, don't you.  Just can't help your self.


YOU leave yourself wide open.  Grin
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Reply #51 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 4:19pm
 
From what I have read FD-- this problem is interfering with the ability of some to log on here -- missing is cods and no doubt others-  you dont have to answer but those locked out might be somewhat enlightened if you do.?
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Re: possible downtime and lost posts
Reply #52 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 4:23pm
 
Agnes wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 4:19pm:
From what I have read FD-- this problem is interfering with the ability of some to log on here -- missing is cods and no doubt others-  you dont have to answer but those locked out might be somewhat enlightened if you do.?


Indeed, but cods had been AWOL for two days before the server change.
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Reply #53 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 9:19pm
 
Anyone else notice that, with the new server, no ads?
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Reply #54 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 9:52pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 4:23pm:
Agnes wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 4:19pm:
From what I have read FD-- this problem is interfering with the ability of some to log on here -- missing is cods and no doubt others-  you dont have to answer but those locked out might be somewhat enlightened if you do.?


Indeed, but cods had been AWOL for two days before the server change.

I would say the server problem played into her problem, as how can one be sure about the exact times she wasn't able to log in..? password corrupted..anything..i got spam notification's the other day..about 5 times..
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Reply #55 - Nov 15th, 2016 at 9:53pm
 
Aussie wrote on Nov 15th, 2016 at 9:19pm:
Anyone else notice that, with the new server, no ads?

That mean's I'm on it now then..
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Reply #56 - Nov 16th, 2016 at 8:23am
 
I have no problems logging onto OZPOL just PA since the move.
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Reply #57 - Nov 16th, 2016 at 8:33am
 
Grendel wrote on Nov 16th, 2016 at 8:23am:
I have no problems logging onto OZPOL just PA since the move.


Yes I think OzPol is now AOK , PA still to be resolved!
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Reply #58 - Nov 16th, 2016 at 9:21am
 
Looks like everyone is on the new server as of about 9:30pm last night. If you want to rescue lost posts before I turn the old server off, now would be a good time. I'm not going to dig them up for you later.
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Reply #59 - Nov 16th, 2016 at 11:26am
 
Cant logon to PA so there are no new posts to be lost haven't posted there for at least 3 days now.
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Re: possible downtime and lost posts
Reply #60 - Nov 21st, 2016 at 9:11am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 8:13am:
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