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Oct 28th, 2016 at 3:49pm
 
The rabble that opposes the TPP


What do the Greens, Nick Xenophon Team and One Nation have in common with Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump? As it happens, quite a lot, and at the top of the list is their declared hatred of the free trade treaty known as the Trans Pacific Partnership (TPP).

Later this century it is likely to become clear that western civilisation has fallen into decline. When historians look for an event that signifies the turning point from progress to paralysis, rejection of the TPP may well be that event.

The TPP is about trade; as in facilitating more of it. It will allow Australian producers to sell more dairy products, wine, steel and automotive parts at better prices. Nick Xenophon has said he supports each of these producers, yet he opposes the TPP. Sugar, beef and wheat producers will also benefit, but somehow the One Nation senators of Queensland, New South Wales and Western Australia still oppose the deal.

The TPP is also unashamedly about empire. It is a plan orchestrated by the leading countries of the free world that are not yet drowning in a culture of entitlement, including Australia and New Zealand, the US and Canada, Japan and Singapore. Together we represent an empire of liberal democracy which has allowed its people to build great wealth and, through the example it has provided to poor countries, helped pull a billion people out of extreme poverty.

Cement empire

The TPP would serve to cement this empire in the face of the bureaucratic behemoth of China. And it would further enrich our liberal democratic empire, so that China's only option to emulate our strength would be to become more like us.

The Greens, Nick Xenophon Team, One Nation, Clinton and Trump each have a pathological fear of China, and yet they oppose the TPP that excludes China. Chinese Communist Party leaders must be chuckling in their chow mein.

The opponents of the TPP are willing to throw farmers, miners, manufacturers and workers under a bus – just to pander to a rabble of anti-everything voters. And they are a weird, eclectic rabble.

The TPP is a thick wad of paper, yet they want it to be even thicker. They want the TPP to add some magical rules to stop countries from printing more money so as to devalue their own currencies. Some of them want it to morph into a deal to save the world from climate change.

Imperfect but beneficial

They want the TPP to force Vietnamese bosses to provide first-world pay and conditions to their workers – a recipe for impoverishing an already poor country.

They want to reject the TPP because its "country-of-origin" rules aren't mean enough to non‑member countries like China, even though rejecting the TPP would be a massive free-kick for China.

They want to reject the TPP because it obliges the government to choose the bidder offering the best value for money in many of its purchase decisions. This would save taxpayers a lot of money, but the rabble doesn't care – probably because they don't pay tax.

The rabble wants to reject the TPP because it requires member countries to enforce royalty payments when using intellectual property from another member country. While it can be argued the new intellectual property protections are excessive, the rabble want to decimate intellectual property protections, somehow assuming new medicines will still be invented even though they can be immediately copied and are therefore unprofitable.

Finally, the rabble object to the TPP because it requires member countries to impose the same laws on foreign investors as are imposed on domestic investors, protects foreign investors from an uncompensated seizure of their property or a denial of justice, and allows foreign investors to complain if this is not the case. This helps prevent the promulgation of arbitrary regulations, and is a requirement that Australia currently meets anyway, so it would do no harm in Australia. However it would certainly help Australians investing overseas.

The TPP isn't perfect. We'd get an even bigger boost if we simply abolished tariffs on imports from all countries, or if we achieved a deal covering more countries. But there is no doubt the TPP offers net benefits for Australia. Its adoption in both Australia and the US should be a no-brainer. Unfortunately, the decision is in the hands of no-brainers.

David Leyonhjelm is a senator for the Liberal Democrats

http://www.afr.com/news/policy/foreign-investment/the-rabble-that-opposes-the-tp...
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Reply #1 - Oct 29th, 2016 at 12:15am
 
In principle it is sound as long as we all play ball. The section on investor state dispute settlement is a worrying concern though.
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Reply #2 - Oct 29th, 2016 at 6:55am
 
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somehow assuming new medicines will still be invented even though they can be immediately copied


Wrong, there is a period where copies cannot be made.

TPP is not so much about trade as protecting vested interests. What FTA has been of net benefit to Australia? The last lot cost us the car industry and boy will we miss that!
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Reply #3 - Oct 29th, 2016 at 7:56am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2016 at 6:55am:
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somehow assuming new medicines will still be invented even though they can be immediately copied


Wrong, there is a period where copies cannot be made.

TPP is not so much about trade as protecting vested interests. What FTA has been of net benefit to Australia? The last lot cost us the car industry and boy will we miss that!


How many new Australian cars have you brought ?  Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry
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Reply #4 - Oct 29th, 2016 at 8:35am
 
So all this current trade in the same things will suddenly accelerate under a TPP?  and thus a new era of prosperity will be born for Australians overall?

I think not - the same level of exports will apply, the only deal being that some in a position to control the flow - the infamous middle men - will profit mightily while the rest go starve under a bridge quietly and with dignity and without upsetting their betters too much.

The decline of the West will be typified by its demolition of its own people first - without the single thought that in destroying your own for thirty pieces of silver means you are destroying yourself.... that demolition will be near complete with all these 'free trade deals' set up to benefit only a minority in the West - as has been happening with globalisation since its inception.

A simple look around you will tell you that simple reality.....
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Reply #5 - Oct 29th, 2016 at 9:11am
 
FRED. wrote on Oct 29th, 2016 at 7:56am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Oct 29th, 2016 at 6:55am:
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somehow assuming new medicines will still be invented even though they can be immediately copied


Wrong, there is a period where copies cannot be made.

TPP is not so much about trade as protecting vested interests. What FTA has been of net benefit to Australia? The last lot cost us the car industry and boy will we miss that!


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Reply #6 - Oct 29th, 2016 at 9:18am
 


The last lot cost us the car industry and boy will we miss that!


I read that as, Glad the parasite car industry is gone.


Am I out of touch?
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The Obnoxious Greenies should be against a lot of these free trade agreements because we trade with Scummy countries that do not enforce biosecurity rules.

We are going to have some big ecological disasters with insect, weed and pathogens getting into our country.

I have seen how this happens, had to go and collect items that had to be fumigated because the import protocols were not followed.

Drywood termite was one, the ones I really worry about are the fungi and insects that could wipe out our eucalypt forests.
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Reply #8 - Oct 29th, 2016 at 9:32am
 
The Liberal Democrats cite the Noble Prize winning Economist Milton Friedman with their economic policies.

The socialist greens would be the exact opposite of what Milton Friedman preached with economics.
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Reply #9 - Oct 29th, 2016 at 9:33am
 
miketrees wrote on Oct 29th, 2016 at 9:24am:
The Obnoxious Greenies should be against a lot of these free trade agreements because we trade with Scummy countries that do not enforce biosecurity rules.

We are going to have some big ecological disasters with insect, weed and pathogens getting into our country.

I have seen how this happens, had to go and collect items that had to be fumigated because the import protocols were not followed.

Drywood termite was one, the ones I really worry about are the fungi and insects that could wipe out our eucalypt forests.


Too late - liberals already got into the country.
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Reply #10 - Oct 29th, 2016 at 9:40am
 


Too late - liberals already got into the country.


I think there is still time to protect Australia.

The Greens are too busy being left wing and gay etc to actually address a really huge ecological hazard.
Its just not bumsexy enough for them
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Reply #11 - Oct 29th, 2016 at 9:50am
 
miketrees wrote on Oct 29th, 2016 at 9:24am:
The Obnoxious Greenies should be against a lot of these free trade agreements because we trade with Scummy countries that do not enforce biosecurity rules.

We are going to have some big ecological disasters with insect, weed and pathogens getting into our country.

I have seen how this happens, had to go and collect items that had to be fumigated because the import protocols were not followed.

Drywood termite was one, the ones I really worry about are the fungi and insects that could wipe out our eucalypt forests.



Lax border security aye.
That's the federal government's chasing of boat refugees rather than major threats to the country.


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BARNABY JOYCE: Well, not from me. (Laughs)

PRUE ADAMS: (Laughs)

BARNABY JOYCE: I don't know. From you? Ah, we don't know how it got in, but it's here. And to be frank, it's - the problems it creates is for those with pet rabbits 'cause there's no anti - vaccine for it. You just - if your pet rabbit gets it, your pet rabbit dies.

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Thats a limp response Green.

If the Greens were truly concerned with the environment they should look into the post quarantine incursions that are going on.

The Department of Agriculture in WA has a truckload of incidents.

I suspect the other state authorities would have similar files.
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Reply #13 - Oct 29th, 2016 at 12:10pm
 
crocodile wrote on Oct 29th, 2016 at 12:15am:
In principle it is sound as long as we all play ball. The section on investor state dispute settlement is a worrying concern though.

As long as the highly controversial investor state dispute clauses remain in the TPP it must be opposed at any cost. It is nothing more than a corporate entitlement mentality.

Nobody - neither individual, nor corporate - has any right to expect to make money tomorrow just because they made money today. If workers can be thrown on the scrapheap at the whim of corporations, corporations should not expect to receive any better treatment.
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