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Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.
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Reply #1 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:20pm
 
Good god you're disgusting.
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rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


Can you elaborate?
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mothra wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:20pm:
Good god you're disgusting.


And always wrong.

What a combination.

Disgusting pig; always wrong; limited knowledge on world all events.

Who does that remind me of?   Undecided

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Reply #4 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:31pm
 
AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:22pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


Can you elaborate?
forced sterilisation of those with low IQs.
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Reply #5 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:33pm
 
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:31pm:
AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:22pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


Can you elaborate?
forced sterilisation of those with low IQs.


So, you don't want kids hey?

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Reply #6 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:33pm
 
Dawkins is for it Quote:
In a 2006 newspaper article, Richard Dawkins said that discussion regarding eugenics was inhibited by the shadow of Nazi misuse, to the extent that some scientists would not admit that breeding humans for certain abilities is at all possible. He believes that it is not physically different from breeding domestic animals for traits such as speed or herding skill. Dawkins felt that enough time had elapsed to at least ask just what the ethical differences were between breeding for ability versus training athletes or forcing children to take music lessons, though he could think of persuasive reasons to draw the distinction.[56]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics
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rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:33pm:
Dawkins is for it Quote:
In a 2006 newspaper article, Richard Dawkins said that discussion regarding eugenics was inhibited by the shadow of Nazi misuse, to the extent that some scientists would not admit that breeding humans for certain abilities is at all possible. He believes that it is not physically different from breeding domestic animals for traits such as speed or herding skill. Dawkins felt that enough time had elapsed to at least ask just what the ethical differences were between breeding for ability versus training athletes or forcing children to take music lessons, though he could think of persuasive reasons to draw the distinction.[56]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics


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Reply #8 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm
 
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes
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Reply #9 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:48pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes



I don't think there's a cure.
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Reply #10 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:50pm
 
mothra wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:48pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes



I don't think there's a cure.


Or enough time.

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Reply #11 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:55pm
 
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:31pm:
AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:22pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


Can you elaborate?
forced sterilisation of those with low IQs.


okay. eugenics goes on anyway, I mean intelligent, educated people generally marry other intelligent, educated people and good-looking people marry other good-looking people and now technology has enabled the very wealthy to select traits deemed "desirable" for their offspring and THAT is only going to increase as the decades go on. but forcing sterilization on someone, well, that isn't right but I agree, some people shouldn't have kids ...
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Reply #12 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:31pm
 
AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:55pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:31pm:
AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:22pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


Can you elaborate?
forced sterilisation of those with low IQs.


okay. eugenics goes on anyway, I mean intelligent, educated people generally marry other intelligent, educated people and good-looking people marry other good-looking people and now technology has enabled the very wealthy to select traits deemed "desirable" for their offspring and THAT is only going to increase as the decades go on. but forcing sterilization on someone, well, that isn't right but I agree, some people shouldn't have kids ...
have a look around, our welfare state encourages the dummies to breed, not the smart people. The people having all the children are those being cradled on welfare. This cant go on, the people consuming all our tax dollars and resources are non contributors to society.
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Reply #13 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:33pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes
sure, there no problem. A 45 million dollar rebuilt school just got trashed in Kalgoorlie by feral abo kids. All under 10 years of age. The list goes on.
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Reply #14 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:34pm
 
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:31pm:
AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:55pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:31pm:
AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:22pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


Can you elaborate?
forced sterilisation of those with low IQs.


okay. eugenics goes on anyway, I mean intelligent, educated people generally marry other intelligent, educated people and good-looking people marry other good-looking people and now technology has enabled the very wealthy to select traits deemed "desirable" for their offspring and THAT is only going to increase as the decades go on. but forcing sterilization on someone, well, that isn't right but I agree, some people shouldn't have kids ...
have a look around, our welfare state encourages the dummies to breed, not the smart people. The people having all the children are those being cradled on welfare. This cant go on, the people consuming all our tax dollars and resources are non contributors to society.


there is some truth to that about lower classes having the most kids ... but hasn't that always been true? and the government does seem to enable large families by welfare ...
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Reply #15 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:39pm
 
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes
sure, there no problem. A 45 million dollar rebuilt school just got trashed in Kalgoorlie by feral abo kids. All under 10 years of age. The list goes on.


Schools have been trashed by white kids, by Asian kids, by African kids, by Eskimo kids, by Native American kids.  It occurs all over the world, all the time.   Perhaps we need to address why kids of all kinds do this, rather than just single out Indigenous children?    Roll Eyes
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Reply #16 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:39pm
 
AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:34pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:31pm:
AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:55pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:31pm:
AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:22pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


Can you elaborate?
forced sterilisation of those with low IQs.


okay. eugenics goes on anyway, I mean intelligent, educated people generally marry other intelligent, educated people and good-looking people marry other good-looking people and now technology has enabled the very wealthy to select traits deemed "desirable" for their offspring and THAT is only going to increase as the decades go on. but forcing sterilization on someone, well, that isn't right but I agree, some people shouldn't have kids ...
have a look around, our welfare state encourages the dummies to breed, not the smart people. The people having all the children are those being cradled on welfare. This cant go on, the people consuming all our tax dollars and resources are non contributors to society.


there is some truth to that about lower classes having the most kids ... but hasn't that always been true? and the government does seem to enable large families by welfare ...

we actually pay people to have kids now though, thats the difference.
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Reply #17 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:41pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:39pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes
sure, there no problem. A 45 million dollar rebuilt school just got trashed in Kalgoorlie by feral abo kids. All under 10 years of age. The list goes on.


Schools have been trashed by white kids, by Asian kids, by African kids, by Eskimo kids, by Native American kids.  It occurs all over the world, all the time.   Perhaps we need to address why kids of all kinds do this, rather than just single out Indigenous children?    Roll Eyes
The damage done by feral abos is out of all proportion to their numbers, most of these people are technically retarded, of course they cant bring up their kids properly.
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Reply #18 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:47pm
 
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:39pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes
sure, there no problem. A 45 million dollar rebuilt school just got trashed in Kalgoorlie by feral abo kids. All under 10 years of age. The list goes on.


Schools have been trashed by white kids, by Asian kids, by African kids, by Eskimo kids, by Native American kids.  It occurs all over the world, all the time.   Perhaps we need to address why kids of all kinds do this, rather than just single out Indigenous children?    Roll Eyes
The damage done by feral abos is out of all proportion to their numbers, most of these people are technically retarded, of course they cant bring up their kids properly.


Considering that it was the Stolen Generations policies which destroyed many of their family lives until a generation ago, it's not surprising that they often have disjointed, dysfunctional families you realise? 
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Reply #19 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:48pm
 
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:39pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes
sure, there no problem. A 45 million dollar rebuilt school just got trashed in Kalgoorlie by feral abo kids. All under 10 years of age. The list goes on.


Schools have been trashed by white kids, by Asian kids, by African kids, by Eskimo kids, by Native American kids.  It occurs all over the world, all the time.   Perhaps we need to address why kids of all kinds do this, rather than just single out Indigenous children?    Roll Eyes
The damage done by feral abos is out of all proportion to their numbers, most of these people are technically retarded, of course they cant bring up their kids properly.



God you're a pig.

And pig ignorant.
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Reply #20 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:49pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:39pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes
sure, there no problem. A 45 million dollar rebuilt school just got trashed in Kalgoorlie by feral abo kids. All under 10 years of age. The list goes on.


Schools have been trashed by white kids, by Asian kids, by African kids, by Eskimo kids, by Native American kids.  It occurs all over the world, all the time.   Perhaps we need to address why kids of all kinds do this, rather than just single out Indigenous children?    Roll Eyes
The damage done by feral abos is out of all proportion to their numbers, most of these people are technically retarded, of course they cant bring up their kids properly.


Considering that it was the Stolen Generations policies which destroyed many of their family lives until a generation ago, it's not surprising that they often have disjointed, dysfunctional families you realise? 



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Reply #21 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:50pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:39pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes
sure, there no problem. A 45 million dollar rebuilt school just got trashed in Kalgoorlie by feral abo kids. All under 10 years of age. The list goes on.


Schools have been trashed by white kids, by Asian kids, by African kids, by Eskimo kids, by Native American kids.  It occurs all over the world, all the time.   Perhaps we need to address why kids of all kinds do this, rather than just single out Indigenous children?    Roll Eyes
The damage done by feral abos is out of all proportion to their numbers, most of these people are technically retarded, of course they cant bring up their kids properly.


Considering that it was the Stolen Generations policies which destroyed many of their family lives until a generation ago, it's not surprising that they often have disjointed, dysfunctional families you realise? 
Bull puckey, the so called 'stolen generation" rescued those kids. ive worked with and spoken to those who thank god they were rescued and had a chance at a normal life. The rest is just a grab for compensation.
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Reply #22 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:53pm
 
No idea at all.
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Reply #23 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 12:01am
 
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


They tried that in the 19th and 20th century. People cried racism at having white babies.
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rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:50pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:39pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes
sure, there no problem. A 45 million dollar rebuilt school just got trashed in Kalgoorlie by feral abo kids. All under 10 years of age. The list goes on.


Schools have been trashed by white kids, by Asian kids, by African kids, by Eskimo kids, by Native American kids.  It occurs all over the world, all the time.   Perhaps we need to address why kids of all kinds do this, rather than just single out Indigenous children?    Roll Eyes
The damage done by feral abos is out of all proportion to their numbers, most of these people are technically retarded, of course they cant bring up their kids properly.


Considering that it was the Stolen Generations policies which destroyed many of their family lives until a generation ago, it's not surprising that they often have disjointed, dysfunctional families you realise? 
Bull puckey, the so called 'stolen generation" rescued those kids. ive worked with and spoken to those who thank god they were rescued and had a chance at a normal life. The rest is just a grab for compensation.


Really?  Lucky you.  Lucky them.  The Human Rights Commission however reported differently on the interviews they conducted as part of the "Bringing Them Home" report.  How about you realise that not everybody had the same experience of the nobless oblige' of white society.   Roll Eyes
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Really?  Lucky you.  Lucky them.  The Human Rights Commission however reported differently on the interviews they conducted as part of the "Bringing Them Home" report.  How about you realise that not everybody had the same experience of the nobless oblige' of white society.   Roll Eyes
They are a sub species of humanity, very lucky they were offered this opportunity to integrate.
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Reply #26 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 12:32am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 12:01am:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


They tried that in the 19th and 20th century. People cried racism at having white babies.
Thats not my point. we prevent retarded people from breeding and most aboriginals fit into this category. Why are we enabling them? what are we getting out of this deal? Higher crime, higher level of family dysfunction, etc etc. they dont contribute to society in any way shape or form.
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Reply #27 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 12:51am
 
rhino wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 12:32am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 12:01am:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


They tried that in the 19th and 20th century. People cried racism at having white babies.
Thats not my point. we prevent retarded people from breeding and most aboriginals fit into this category. Why are we enabling them? what are we getting out of this deal? Higher crime, higher level of family dysfunction, etc etc. they dont contribute to society in any way shape or form.


Y'know, it is not like I'm against certain people breeding. But suggesting that we wipe out most aboriginals by stopping them from breeding is something I cannot condone. Either way, could you at least not use "retarded" when referring to someone who is disabled. I was almost killed by a sister of someone disabled when I was being patronising towards him. Then when I used the term "retarded" to describe an able-bodied person, I almost received round two from the same person. I have received plenty of 'corporal punishment' for using that term. And I don't think you should be using that term, either.
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Reply #28 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 1:11am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 12:51am:
rhino wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 12:32am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 12:01am:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


They tried that in the 19th and 20th century. People cried racism at having white babies.
Thats not my point. we prevent retarded people from breeding and most aboriginals fit into this category. Why are we enabling them? what are we getting out of this deal? Higher crime, higher level of family dysfunction, etc etc. they dont contribute to society in any way shape or form.


Y'know, it is not like I'm against certain people breeding. But suggesting that we wipe out most aboriginals by stopping them from breeding is something I cannot condone. Either way, could you at least not use "retarded" when referring to someone who is disabled. I was almost killed by a sister of someone disabled when I was being patronising towards him. Then when I used the term "retarded" to describe an able-bodied person, I almost received round two from the same person. I have received plenty of 'corporal punishment' for using that term. And I don't think you should be using that term, either.

Im not referring to disabled people. Im referring to retarded people, those with low IQs.
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She's gonna hack your IP address and come after ya... I'm just saying..
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To the ladies here, would you have a baby with this?
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:39pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes
sure, there no problem. A 45 million dollar rebuilt school just got trashed in Kalgoorlie by feral abo kids. All under 10 years of age. The list goes on.


Schools have been trashed by white kids, by Asian kids, by African kids, by Eskimo kids, by Native American kids.  It occurs all over the world, all the time.   Perhaps we need to address why kids of all kinds do this, rather than just single out Indigenous children?    Roll Eyes
The damage done by feral abos is out of all proportion to their numbers, most of these people are technically retarded, of course they cant bring up their kids properly.


Considering that it was the Stolen Generations policies which destroyed many of their family lives until a generation ago, it's not surprising that they often have disjointed, dysfunctional families you realise? 


The stolen generation was proven to be a load of crap.
Children were removed from situations where they were being raped, beaten and left to starve.
Many of them went on to lead far better lives than they would have had if they had been left with their parents.

Wake up,
Today children are still removed from parents who abuse their children, and its for the good of the children.
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This whole subject is totally ridiculous.
Aborigines are not a real problem, other than being a drain on the welfare system.
I would rather a street of Aborigines than two houses of devil worshiping cultists (you know who I mean)

There are good and bad in both white and Black.
A quick trip to suburbs like Wyndale in Newcastle, full of white trash, would give you a great insight to the white problem.
Whereas In Taree, there are suburbs where Aborigines are model citizens.


But there is an argument for Eugenics, not in Australia, but in these third world countries that have populations expanding far far beyond that countries ability to support.
These people are either not bright enough or just plain arrogant, thinking that its everyone else's responsibility for them not being able to control their carnal urges.

50 Years ago as a child I watched the poor children in Africa and many other places starving and begging for money to survive.
50 years later, the same lot of deadbeats still beg and now demand that we feed them.
They are now many times more and have decided that their best bet is to spread their uncontrolled breeding around the world, anywhere they can.
Had they controlled their incessant breeding, they might have their population more in line with the available resources and would not need this constant and never ending charity.

Yes, I agree that compulsory sterilization is going to be required sometime in the near future.
We cannot allow the world population to continue on this current growth.
We cannot continue to waste resources on feeding an entire population of people who will never be anything more than parasites who's only contribution is an ever increasing population growth.

Better to allow a few million to die now than watch as a few billion starve later.

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Reply #33 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 8:19am
 
Socially engineered eugenics are alive and well.

Where I live the highly educated high achievers are having 1 or 2 kids.  Out in the proletarian zone they're popping out 5 govt subsidised epsilons.
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Valkie wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:59am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:39pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes
sure, there no problem. A 45 million dollar rebuilt school just got trashed in Kalgoorlie by feral abo kids. All under 10 years of age. The list goes on.


Schools have been trashed by white kids, by Asian kids, by African kids, by Eskimo kids, by Native American kids.  It occurs all over the world, all the time.   Perhaps we need to address why kids of all kinds do this, rather than just single out Indigenous children?    Roll Eyes
The damage done by feral abos is out of all proportion to their numbers, most of these people are technically retarded, of course they cant bring up their kids properly.


Considering that it was the Stolen Generations policies which destroyed many of their family lives until a generation ago, it's not surprising that they often have disjointed, dysfunctional families you realise? 


The stolen generation was proven to be a load of crap.


Were they?  By whom?  When?  I wonder what the courts had to say about the issue in the case of Bruce Trevorrow versus the state of South Australia and Eddie Thomas versus the state of Tasmania...    Roll Eyes
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Really?  Lucky you.  Lucky them.  The Human Rights Commission however reported differently on the interviews they conducted as part of the "Bringing Them Home" report.  How about you realise that not everybody had the same experience of the nobless oblige' of white society.   Roll Eyes
They are a sub species of humanity, very lucky they were offered this opportunity to integrate.


Not according to Genetic research which has shown they are 100% human.  Time you caught up with 21st century science, I think...   Roll Eyes
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Really?  Lucky you.  Lucky them.  The Human Rights Commission however reported differently on the interviews they conducted as part of the "Bringing Them Home" report.  How about you realise that not everybody had the same experience of the nobless oblige' of white society.   Roll Eyes
They are a sub species of humanity, very lucky they were offered this opportunity to integrate.


Not according to Genetic research which has shown they are 100% human.  Time you caught up with 21st century science, I think...   Roll Eyes
Aborigines and PNG's have the highest amount of Neanderthal DNA of any existing group of modern humans.
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Really?  Lucky you.  Lucky them.  The Human Rights Commission however reported differently on the interviews they conducted as part of the "Bringing Them Home" report.  How about you realise that not everybody had the same experience of the nobless oblige' of white society.   Roll Eyes
They are a sub species of humanity, very lucky they were offered this opportunity to integrate.


Not according to Genetic research which has shown they are 100% human.  Time you caught up with 21st century science, I think...   Roll Eyes
Aborigines and PNG's have the highest amount of Neanderthal DNA of any existing group of modern humans.


That does not make them anything less than 100% human...   Neanderthals and other sub-groups of humanity are still a part of humanity.  If they were a "sub-species" or a "different species" humans and Indigenous Australians could not interbreed.  They can, that means all your whinging is just that, whinging.  Time you accepted them as your fellow humans, as the scientific evidence proves them to be.    Roll Eyes
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Really?  Lucky you.  Lucky them.  The Human Rights Commission however reported differently on the interviews they conducted as part of the "Bringing Them Home" report.  How about you realise that not everybody had the same experience of the nobless oblige' of white society.   Roll Eyes
They are a sub species of humanity, very lucky they were offered this opportunity to integrate.


Not according to Genetic research which has shown they are 100% human.  Time you caught up with 21st century science, I think...   Roll Eyes
I didnt state they werent 100 percent human. You poorly understand this, aboriginals are a sub species of humanity. They are unique.
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This whole subject is totally ridiculous.
Aborigines are not a real problem, other than being a drain on the welfare system.
I would rather a street of Aborigines than two houses of devil worshiping cultists (you know who I mean)



you are kidding yourself. 3 percent of the population consume 50 percent of the resources and contribute nothing. It has to end.
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Really?  Lucky you.  Lucky them.  The Human Rights Commission however reported differently on the interviews they conducted as part of the "Bringing Them Home" report.  How about you realise that not everybody had the same experience of the nobless oblige' of white society.   Roll Eyes
They are a sub species of humanity, very lucky they were offered this opportunity to integrate.


Not according to Genetic research which has shown they are 100% human.  Time you caught up with 21st century science, I think...   Roll Eyes
I didnt state they werent 100 percent human. You poorly understand this, aboriginals are a sub species of humanity. They are unique.


You were attempting to imply they were not 100 percent human.

Indigenous Australians are not unique.  Their group is primarily Melanesian culturally and they are found across South-East Oceania.
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This whole subject is totally ridiculous.
Aborigines are not a real problem, other than being a drain on the welfare system.
I would rather a street of Aborigines than two houses of devil worshiping cultists (you know who I mean)



you are kidding yourself. 3 percent of the population consume 50 percent of the resources and contribute nothing. It has to end.



You shouldn't talk about Lord Wentworth, Queen Gina and King Clive, like that.  You'll get in trouble claiming that about your financial betters.    Roll Eyes
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From whom? For what? Questions... questions. Never contribute to any debate. Then to end with a smug eye roll.  Roll Eyes
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You were attempting to imply they were not 100 percent human.
Not at all.

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Indigenous Australians are not unique.  Their group is primarily Melanesian culturally and they are found across South-East Oceania.
Incorrect. Aboriginals are unique. They are not Melanasian. Not sure where you got that from but your ignorance on this subject is exhaustive.
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Dawkins is for it Quote:
In a 2006 newspaper article, Richard Dawkins said that discussion regarding eugenics was inhibited by the shadow of Nazi misuse, to the extent that some scientists would not admit that breeding humans for certain abilities is at all possible. He believes that it is not physically different from breeding domestic animals for traits such as speed or herding skill. Dawkins felt that enough time had elapsed to at least ask just what the ethical differences were between breeding for ability versus training athletes or forcing children to take music lessons, though he could think of persuasive reasons to draw the distinction.[56]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics


You can teach monkeys to fly - but you can't teach them to fly creatively....

I come partly from a line of ancient kings/queens going back thousands of years, yea - even through Nefertiti, Scotia etc - they conscientiously bred within close family for the best characteristics - the results are ambiguous, to say the least.

Not sold on any idea of breeding people for the best characteristics..... and I sincerely doubt that even the majority of Aboriginals are of low IQ etc.  I've met some mighty smart ones around the traps.... and you should never confuse culture and accent or even education level with intelligence..... they are simply not the same.
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AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:55pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:31pm:
AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:22pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


Can you elaborate?
forced sterilisation of those with low IQs.


okay. eugenics goes on anyway, I mean intelligent, educated people generally marry other intelligent, educated people and good-looking people marry other good-looking people and now technology has enabled the very wealthy to select traits deemed "desirable" for their offspring and THAT is only going to increase as the decades go on. but forcing sterilization on someone, well, that isn't right but I agree, some people shouldn't have kids ...



I get it - so now natural selection is considered a form of de facto eugenics.. right-O ......
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rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:31pm:
AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:55pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:31pm:
AiA wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:22pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


Can you elaborate?
forced sterilisation of those with low IQs.


okay. eugenics goes on anyway, I mean intelligent, educated people generally marry other intelligent, educated people and good-looking people marry other good-looking people and now technology has enabled the very wealthy to select traits deemed "desirable" for their offspring and THAT is only going to increase as the decades go on. but forcing sterilization on someone, well, that isn't right but I agree, some people shouldn't have kids ...
have a look around, our welfare state encourages the dummies to breed, not the smart people. The people having all the children are those being cradled on welfare. This cant go on, the people consuming all our tax dollars and resources are non contributors to society.


I actually think you'll find that better health care for infants and mothers etc are one of the primary causes of the population explosion.  The issue, if it is one, with those from a lower socio-economic background is that their hard-wiring has yet to adjust to the idea that their tribal group is not under threat of immediate extermination, and thus they tend to breed more and often more indiscriminately.

It has nothing to do with intelligence - Aboriginal hard-wiring says they are still a society under threat, as does the general run of Middle Eastern hard-wiring - understandable given their propensity for endless wars of extermination against one another.  Societies under threat breed more and breed more girl children.

Is that natural eugenics in play at some point?
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Valkie wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 8:12am:
This whole subject is totally ridiculous.
Aborigines are not a real problem, other than being a drain on the welfare system.
I would rather a street of Aborigines than two houses of devil worshiping cultists (you know who I mean)



you are kidding yourself. 3 percent of the population consume 50 percent of the resources and contribute nothing. It has to end.



You shouldn't talk about Lord Wentworth, Queen Gina and King Clive, like that.  You'll get in trouble claiming that about your financial betters.    Roll Eyes



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human selective eugenics is very different to natural selection.   Human eugenics are biased in terms of emotion, and not necessary evolutionary advantage.
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:47pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:41pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:39pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:33pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:44pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 10:12pm:
Seriously good idea. Abo problem, solved in 1 generation.


There is no problem that requires "solving".   Perhaps we should ask how we can solve your problems instead?   Roll Eyes
sure, there no problem. A 45 million dollar rebuilt school just got trashed in Kalgoorlie by feral abo kids. All under 10 years of age. The list goes on.


Schools have been trashed by white kids, by Asian kids, by African kids, by Eskimo kids, by Native American kids.  It occurs all over the world, all the time.   Perhaps we need to address why kids of all kinds do this, rather than just single out Indigenous children?    Roll Eyes
The damage done by feral abos is out of all proportion to their numbers, most of these people are technically retarded, of course they cant bring up their kids properly.


Considering that it was the Stolen Generations policies which destroyed many of their family lives until a generation ago, it's not surprising that they often have disjointed, dysfunctional families you realise? 


The stolen generation was proven to be a load of crap.


Were they?  By whom?  When?  I wonder what the courts had to say about the issue in the case of Bruce Trevorrow versus the state of South Australia and Eddie Thomas versus the state of Tasmania...    Roll Eyes


Two?
Yeah, I guess your sort would consider tgat a generation.
There were so few Actual Aboriginals who took up this crap, that it was just ignored.
And why? Because many Aboriginals realised it was for their own good.

Only the lazy, gerrdy few saw an opportunity for some cash and jumped on the bandwagon.
Any who were honest didnt chase it up.


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Valkie wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 8:12am:
This whole subject is totally ridiculous.
Aborigines are not a real problem, other than being a drain on the welfare system.
I would rather a street of Aborigines than two houses of devil worshiping cultists (you know who I mean)



you are kidding yourself. 3 percent of the population consume 50 percent of the resources and contribute nothing. It has to end.


I would rather give the Abbos the money than that other 3% of our population that hates us, sucks our welfare dry, bombs us, alienates itself and demands everything, all the while never, ever even considering the possibility of thinking about ever working.

And just in case you missed the cult I was talking about
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I would rather give the Abbos the money than that other 3% of our population that hates us, sucks our welfare dry, bombs us, alienates itself and demands everything, all the while never, ever even considering the possibility of thinking about ever working.

And just in case you missed the cult I was talking about
The bloody muzzos
well actually you fairly well described our Abo population. apart from the bombing, but the raping, thieving, child abuse  and general all round violent behaviour makes up for the bombing.
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Two?


Two which proved that the Stolen Generations existed.   Roll Eyes

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regardless of the motive , it failed. You cant make toffee out of dogsh!t
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This whole subject is totally ridiculous.
Aborigines are not a real problem, other than being a drain on the welfare system.
I would rather a street of Aborigines than two houses of devil worshiping cultists (you know who I mean)



you are kidding yourself. 3 percent of the population consume 50 percent of the resources and contribute nothing. It has to end.


Excellent use of statistics, Rhino. What's your source?

I'd like to use it for future reference, you see.
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Two?


Two which proved that the Stolen Generations existed.   Roll Eyes



I see......So two make a generation?
That means we have several hundred of generations, possibly thousands of generations who did not agree that yhey were stolen, just saved.

The stolen generation was just another money making exercise, much like the secret womens business.
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and what do you propose for our aging population rhyno

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or maybe we can get the UN to take care of those pesky old farts..

oh wait..

they are already working on that... its called Agenda 21

http://www.starshipearththebigpicture.com/2015/02/07/agenda-21-time-to-die-u-n-a...

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regardless of the motive , it failed. You cant make toffee out of dogsh!t


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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 11:37pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 3:14pm:
Two?


Two which proved that the Stolen Generations existed.   Roll Eyes



I see......So two make a generation?


Two are examples of multiple Generations going back to nearly the time of the establishment of the first colony.

Two examples which you cannot disprove so instead you attempt to denigrate them.  How typical of the right-wing when they lose an argument.   Tsk, tsk.  No honesty there at all.   Roll Eyes
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friggen hell there have been some absolutely stupid comments on this forum in the past .... but this thread takes the cake.

Just how stupid does one have to be to become a racist, homophobic, Islamophobic retard? Can they even measure that level of stupidity?
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friggen hell there have been some absolutely stupid comments on this forum in the past .... but this thread takes the cake.

Just how stupid does one have to be to become a racist, homophobic, Islamophobic retard? Can they even measure that level of stupidity?


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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:47am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 11:37pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 3:14pm:
Two?


Two which proved that the Stolen Generations existed.   Roll Eyes



I see......So two make a generation?


Two are examples of multiple Generations going back to nearly the time of the establishment of the first colony.

Two examples which you cannot disprove so instead you attempt to denigrate them.  How typical of the right-wing when they lose an argument.   Tsk, tsk.  No honesty there at all.   Roll Eyes


You and I both know, (although you will not acknowledge it)
That if it were at all possible for more than two probable tricksters to bring this argument to the table.
There would be more of them, after all its money for nothing.

But it cannot and will not be proven as the majority of honest Aboriginals acknowledge that they were saved from abuse and worse by being rescued from their parents.
Many would not have survived.
Pedophilia is rife in Aboriginal communities, with many girls raped by blood relatives.

Stolen generations implies far far more that two individuals.
show me the money?
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Valkie wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:47am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 11:37pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 3:14pm:
Two?


Two which proved that the Stolen Generations existed.   Roll Eyes



I see......So two make a generation?


Two are examples of multiple Generations going back to nearly the time of the establishment of the first colony.

Two examples which you cannot disprove so instead you attempt to denigrate them.  How typical of the right-wing when they lose an argument.   Tsk, tsk.  No honesty there at all.   Roll Eyes


You and I both know, (although you will not acknowledge it)
That if it were at all possible for more than two probable tricksters to bring this argument to the table.
There would be more of them, after all its money for nothing.

But it cannot and will not be proven as the majority of honest Aboriginals acknowledge that they were saved from abuse and worse by being rescued from their parents.
Many would not have survived.
Pedophilia is rife in Aboriginal communities, with many girls raped by blood relatives.

Stolen generations implies far far more that two individuals.
show me the money?


The historical record, the admissions from the state and federal government and the recollections of the victims of these policies all disprove your claims.   The problem with proving the existence of the Stolen Generations is because of the government(s) of the day "losing the records", not keeping records of sufficient detail, passing legislation which enabled them to undertake these policies, thereby rendering them, at the time, legal, etc.  Of course, this all very convenient for you and them but the majority of Australians now accept that children were removed for racist reasons and that they suffered as a consequence.   Time you admitted that as well.    Roll Eyes
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Reply #65 - Oct 23rd, 2016 at 7:36pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:47am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 11:37pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 3:14pm:
Two?


Two which proved that the Stolen Generations existed.   Roll Eyes



I see......So two make a generation?


Two are examples of multiple Generations going back to nearly the time of the establishment of the first colony.

Two examples which you cannot disprove so instead you attempt to denigrate them.  How typical of the right-wing when they lose an argument.   Tsk, tsk.  No honesty there at all.   Roll Eyes


You and I both know, (although you will not acknowledge it)
That if it were at all possible for more than two probable tricksters to bring this argument to the table.
There would be more of them, after all its money for nothing.

But it cannot and will not be proven as the majority of honest Aboriginals acknowledge that they were saved from abuse and worse by being rescued from their parents.
Many would not have survived.
Pedophilia is rife in Aboriginal communities, with many girls raped by blood relatives.

Stolen generations implies far far more that two individuals.
show me the money?


The historical record, the admissions from the state and federal government and the recollections of the victims of these policies all disprove your claims.   The problem with proving the existence of the Stolen Generations is because of the government(s) of the day "losing the records", not keeping records of sufficient detail, passing legislation which enabled them to undertake these policies, thereby rendering them, at the time, legal, etc.  Of course, this all very convenient for you and them but the majority of Australians now accept that children were removed for racist reasons and that they suffered as a consequence.   Time you admitted that as well.    Roll Eyes


Now we are into conspiracy theories.

The facts are that the kids were saved from parents who would have abused their own children
These kids grew up into a better life.
Except perhaps for a couple of rebels, who decided that it was all too hard and managed to convince some dope that they were stolen.
These deadbeats tried and got a payout.

The same deal goes foe white kids too.
If their parents are deadbeats, the kids are taken to give them a chance in life.
You dont hear them all screaming stolen generation, do you?
Thats because it was for their own good.

We need to stop this bull shite and acknowledge that the so called stolen generation was a scam.
That the people who took the children did it for the kids good
It was not an act of punishment.
It was not to do anything but help the kids, and was done in good faith by honest people.

Kids are still in danger now, but we cannot help them anymore because of the crap.

You never commented on the secret womens business.
Was this because you know its just another scam?
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  Can they even measure that level of stupidity?
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Valkie wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 7:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:47am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 11:37pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 3:14pm:
Two?


Two which proved that the Stolen Generations existed.   Roll Eyes



I see......So two make a generation?


Two are examples of multiple Generations going back to nearly the time of the establishment of the first colony.

Two examples which you cannot disprove so instead you attempt to denigrate them.  How typical of the right-wing when they lose an argument.   Tsk, tsk.  No honesty there at all.   Roll Eyes


You and I both know, (although you will not acknowledge it)
That if it were at all possible for more than two probable tricksters to bring this argument to the table.
There would be more of them, after all its money for nothing.

But it cannot and will not be proven as the majority of honest Aboriginals acknowledge that they were saved from abuse and worse by being rescued from their parents.
Many would not have survived.
Pedophilia is rife in Aboriginal communities, with many girls raped by blood relatives.

Stolen generations implies far far more that two individuals.
show me the money?


The historical record, the admissions from the state and federal government and the recollections of the victims of these policies all disprove your claims.   The problem with proving the existence of the Stolen Generations is because of the government(s) of the day "losing the records", not keeping records of sufficient detail, passing legislation which enabled them to undertake these policies, thereby rendering them, at the time, legal, etc.  Of course, this all very convenient for you and them but the majority of Australians now accept that children were removed for racist reasons and that they suffered as a consequence.   Time you admitted that as well.    Roll Eyes


Now we are into conspiracy theories.


Nope.  Reread what I just said, move your lips if you have, it might help you understand it a little bit better.  No "conspiracy theories", proven historical facts.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #68 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 6:54am
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 12:02am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 7:36pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:35pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 5:47am:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 11:37pm:
Valkie wrote on Oct 22nd, 2016 at 3:14pm:
Two?


Two which proved that the Stolen Generations existed.   Roll Eyes



I see......So two make a generation?


Two are examples of multiple Generations going back to nearly the time of the establishment of the first colony.

Two examples which you cannot disprove so instead you attempt to denigrate them.  How typical of the right-wing when they lose an argument.   Tsk, tsk.  No honesty there at all.   Roll Eyes


You and I both know, (although you will not acknowledge it)
That if it were at all possible for more than two probable tricksters to bring this argument to the table.
There would be more of them, after all its money for nothing.

But it cannot and will not be proven as the majority of honest Aboriginals acknowledge that they were saved from abuse and worse by being rescued from their parents.
Many would not have survived.
Pedophilia is rife in Aboriginal communities, with many girls raped by blood relatives.

Stolen generations implies far far more that two individuals.
show me the money?


The historical record, the admissions from the state and federal government and the recollections of the victims of these policies all disprove your claims.   The problem with proving the existence of the Stolen Generations is because of the government(s) of the day "losing the records", not keeping records of sufficient detail, passing legislation which enabled them to undertake these policies, thereby rendering them, at the time, legal, etc.  Of course, this all very convenient for you and them but the majority of Australians now accept that children were removed for racist reasons and that they suffered as a consequence.   Time you admitted that as well.    Roll Eyes


Now we are into conspiracy theories.


Nope.  Reread what I just said, move your lips if you have, it might help you understand it a little bit better.  No "conspiracy theories", proven historical facts.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


My final comment as Im sick of banging my head against a brick wall.

Deny that Aboriginal children were and are still abused by their own.
Deny that many of the so called stolen generation were better off and had a better and more stable upbringing.
Deny , in the current parasitic relationship the Aboriginals have with Australia, that they will never be any better unless they get off their collective asses and do fo themselves.
Something they cannot do when being held back by their lazy, primitive parents.

The stolen generation was a crock, you know it but for some reason, possibly personal investment, you refuse to accept it.
And you still have not commented on that other great myth, SECRET WOMEN'S BUSINESS.
This is probably for the same reason, you know it was just a scam, scams are the foundation of Aboriginl claims.
Sacred places, some rubbish dump where they had a meal of shellfish, suddenly becomes a sacred place, especially when they see a few quick bucks in it.

Now lets get back to the thread.
Talking about selective elimination of people, which if you remember I did not condone.
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My final comment as Im sick of banging my head against a brick wall.


Please do, it might pound some sense it it, 'cause I have failed to do so.

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Deny that Aboriginal children were and are still abused by their own.


Erecting a strawman argument?  Tsk, tsk.   Roll Eyes

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Deny that many of the so called stolen generation were better off and had a better and more stable upbringing.


I have never denied it.  However, you appear to deny that the reason why these children were removed was because of white supremacist beliefs in how their "blood" would prevent the Indigenous "race" from dying out - a commonly held belief amongst many white people and in particular, the white administrators of the Indigenous peoples.   Not all children were abused, not all children were unloved, this destroyed families, this destroyed indigenous peoples lives.   

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Deny , in the current parasitic relationship the Aboriginals have with Australia, that they will never be any better unless they get off their collective asses and do fo themselves.
Something they cannot do when being held back by their lazy, primitive parents.


Except most Indigenous Australians live happy, full lives in Australian cities, amongst white Australians.

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The stolen generation was a crock, you know it but for some reason, possibly personal investment, you refuse to accept it.


Nope.  I refuse to accept your claims because I have read the historical records.  I have read the reports and I was ashamed how White Australians acted towards Indigenous Australians.  For you, any excuse is acceptable for the way this children were stolen, abused and had their lives destroyed.  You disgust me, because of your white supremacist views.

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And you still have not commented on that other great myth, SECRET WOMEN'S BUSINESS.
This is probably for the same reason, you know it was just a scam, scams are the foundation of Aboriginl claims.


Having met and talked to Indigenous women and Anthropologists about "Secret Women's Business" I can assure you, it exists.   That you refuse to accept it just goes to show how little regard you have for your fellow Australians' beliefs.    Roll Eyes


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Having met and talked to Indigenous women and Anthropologists about "Secret Women's Business" I can assure you, it exists.   That you refuse to accept it just goes to show how little regard you have for your fellow Australians' beliefs.    Roll Eyes




Brian, is there any danger that in debate you attempt to prove your points by other than self serving personal anecdotes?

Cos of that is all you have, then you have nothing.
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but... but... but... anecdotal evidence carries the day under a feminist sky.. and Brian always supports the gels in their endless pursuit of their version of equality.........

What, after all, is a body of evidence but, in this kind of issue, is a series of interlocking tales and stories and opinions producing a preponderance of evidence approaching proof (but never quite attaining it)...
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Secret indigenous womens business. Did I ever tell you all about my year 9 footy trip to Dubbo and what happened on the oval near the blue light disco?
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Secret indigenous womens business. Did I ever tell you all about my year 9 footy trip to Dubbo and what happened on the oval near the blue light disco?


You naughty devil...... I know that girl.....
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Having met and talked to Indigenous women and Anthropologists about "Secret Women's Business" I can assure you, it exists.   That you refuse to accept it just goes to show how little regard you have for your fellow Australians' beliefs.    Roll Eyes


Brian, is there any danger that in debate you attempt to prove your points by other than self serving personal anecdotes?

Cos of that is all you have, then you have nothing.


Nope.  Where appropriate I utilise statistical evidence.  However, there are no statistics available which I have found which prove this point. 

Muslims in Australia are just ordinary, everyday people who worship a different god to what the overwhelming majority of Australians worship.
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Brian Ross wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 9:24pm:
Secret Wars wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 7:02pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 24th, 2016 at 6:49pm:
Having met and talked to Indigenous women and Anthropologists about "Secret Women's Business" I can assure you, it exists.   That you refuse to accept it just goes to show how little regard you have for your fellow Australians' beliefs.    Roll Eyes


Brian, is there any danger that in debate you attempt to prove your points by other than self serving personal anecdotes?

Cos of that is all you have, then you have nothing.


Nope.  Where appropriate I utilise statistical evidence.  However, there are no statistics available which I have found which prove this point. 

Muslims in Australia are just ordinary, everyday people who worship a different god to what the overwhelming majority of Australians worship. 



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As an officer of the British Army in 1897 and 1898, he fought against a Pashtun tribe in the northwest frontier of British India and also at the Battle of Omdurman in Sudan. In both of those conflicts he had eye-opening encounters with Muslims. These incidents allowed his keen powers of observation and always-fluid pen to weigh in on the subject of Islamic society.

While these words were written when he was only 25-years-old (in 1899), they serve as a prophetic warning to Western civilization today.

“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism (Islam) lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.”

Churchill apparently witnessed the same phenomenon in several places he visited. “The effects are apparent in many countries: improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.”

He saw the temporal and the eternal tainted by their belief system. “A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity,” he wrote.

The second-class status of women also grated at the young officer. “The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men,” he noted.

“Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.”

Well before the birth of modern Israel, its terror tactics and drive for world domination were felt. “Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step, and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it (Islam) has vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”

Churchill’s quotations are from “The River War,” Volume II, pages 248-250, published by Longmans, Green & Company, 1899.
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Muslims depend on your ignorance to feed you the poison like a piece of chocolate. Muslims need and must tell you these utopian imaginary sweet sounding things about Islam either to stop you from resisting their plans or to convert you to Islam, or both.

Never forget the following fact: The more a Muslim is devout and religious, the more they become dangerous, full of hatred and has tendency to violence…

Thousands of times I heard Muslims living in the west, their non-Muslim apologists, western politicians and the western mainstream media repeat the following statement : The vast majority of Muslims are moderate peace loving people and only a tiny minority are “extremists”:


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This hypocrisy is widely used and encouraged in Islam when dealing with kaffirs. it’s called “Taqqiyah“ and it is widely used by muslims in non-Islamic countries.
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A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU
 
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Re: Eugenics.
Reply #80 - Oct 26th, 2016 at 7:08pm
 
rhino wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 9:29pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 3:57pm:
  Can they even measure that level of stupidity?
Sure. We can use you as the bar to measure against.


we certainly can't use you, no one can get that low to see just low you go.
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Our esteemed leader:
I hope that bitch who was running their brothels for them gets raped with a cactus.
 
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Re: Eugenics.
Reply #81 - Oct 26th, 2016 at 10:13pm
 
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Taqiya

Taqiya (Arabic: تقیة‎‎ taqiyyah/taqīyah, literally "prudence, fear, caution")[1][2] is an Islamic term referring to precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution.[3][4][1][5] Another term for this concept, kitmān (lit. "action of covering, dissimulation"), has a more specific meaning of dissimulation by silence or omission.[6][7]

This practice is emphasized in Shia Islam whereby adherents are permitted to conceal their religion when under threat of persecution or compulsion.[3][8] However, it is also permitted in Sunni Islam under certain circumstances.[9][10]

Taqiyya was initially practiced under duress by some of Muhammad's Companions.[11] Later, it became particularly important for Shias due to their experience as a persecuted religious minority.[8][12] According to Shia doctrine, taqiyya is permissible in situations where there is overwhelming danger of loss of life or property and where no danger to religion would occur thereby.[8] Taqiyya has also been politically legitimised, particularly among Twelver Shias, in order to maintain unity among Muslims and fraternity among the Shia clerics.[13][14]

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As usual, Valkie's bigotry betrays him...    Roll Eyes
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Someone said we could not judge a person's Aboriginality on their skin colour.  Why isn't that applied in the matter of Pascoe?  Tsk, tsk, tsk...   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Re: Eugenics.
Reply #82 - Oct 26th, 2016 at 10:21pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 26th, 2016 at 7:08pm:
rhino wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 9:29pm:
John Smith wrote on Oct 23rd, 2016 at 3:57pm:
  Can they even measure that level of stupidity?
Sure. We can use you as the bar to measure against.


we certainly can't use you, no one can get that low to see just low you go.

lol. Dole payment day today was it?
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Re: Eugenics.
Reply #83 - Oct 26th, 2016 at 11:40pm
 
Brian Ross wrote on Oct 26th, 2016 at 10:13pm:
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Taqiya

Taqiya (Arabic: تقیة‎‎ taqiyyah/taqīyah, literally "prudence, fear, caution")[1][2] is an Islamic term referring to precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution.[3][4][1][5] Another term for this concept, kitmān (lit. "action of covering, dissimulation"), has a more specific meaning of dissimulation by silence or omission.[6][7]

This practice is emphasized in Shia Islam whereby adherents are permitted to conceal their religion when under threat of persecution or compulsion.[3][8] However, it is also permitted in Sunni Islam under certain circumstances.[9][10]

Taqiyya was initially practiced under duress by some of Muhammad's Companions.[11] Later, it became particularly important for Shias due to their experience as a persecuted religious minority.[8][12] According to Shia doctrine, taqiyya is permissible in situations where there is overwhelming danger of loss of life or property and where no danger to religion would occur thereby.[8] Taqiyya has also been politically legitimised, particularly among Twelver Shias, in order to maintain unity among Muslims and fraternity among the Shia clerics.[13][14]

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As usual, Valkie's bigotry betrays him...    Roll Eyes


Please explain?*  This is an inquisitorial kind of forum.... allow yourself to fully expound your view...... we are all listening....

*derived from  that great natural human philosopher, Pauline Hanson, who has the uncanny ability to strike to the heart of the matter....

Actually - she was right in asking that the questioner explain the intent of the question.....
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