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I believe in the Death Penalty ...
Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:31pm
 
... and not just for the murder of humans.

Some people just do not deserve the privileges and comforts that come with living in modern Western civilisation with all of its many enjoyments.

These people are monsters in human form who should be aborted just as happens by the thousands each year when monsters are born in maternity operating rooms.



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Reply #1 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:38pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
... and not just for the murder of humans.

Some people just do not deserve the privileges and comforts that come with living in modern Western civilisation with all of its many enjoyments.

These people are monsters in human form who should be aborted just as happens by the thousands each year when monsters are born in maternity operating rooms.



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A disturbing story, Her-bert.

The perpetrators are sick fvckers, that's for sure.

However, one of the "privileges and comforts that come with living in modern Western civilisation with all of its many enjoyments" is the knowledge that we don't lower ourselves to their level by using violence and killing as a way of solving problems or being entertained.

If we did, we couldn't truly call ourselves civilised.

I share your outrage, Her-bert, but there's no place in a civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals.
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Reply #2 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:44pm
 
I reckon deer was hit by a car then the decorations added postmortem, which doesn't excuse them being sickfks.

If I hit a deer like someone did in Bondi Junction the other week, I'd slice of a nice cut of venison for my dinner.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-investigate-after-deer-killed-by-car-on-busy-ro...

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Reply #3 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:48pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:44pm:
I reckon deer was hit by a car then the decorations added postmortem, which doesn't excuse them being sickfks.

If I hit a deer like someone did in Bondi Junction the other week, I'd slice of a nice cut of venison for my dinner.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-investigate-after-deer-killed-by-car-on-busy-ro...



We had a deer incident here in Perth, just the other day.

"Police said the 31-year-old Kiara man was riding his blue Honda Motorcycle north near Karnup Road when he hit the deer, which was standing on the road, about 1am Friday.

"The collision left the rider with a broken arm, broken leg and severe road rash. He was taken to Royal Perth Hospital where he remains in a serious but stable condition.

"The deer, believed to have escaped from a nearby farm, was fatally injured."

Motorbike rider hits deer, seriously hurt with broken bones
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Reply #4 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:52pm
 
On the death penalty, I don't believe in a state administered death penalty because when politics get involves bad decisions will be made.

I do however believe in the ideal of the death penalty for immediate acts of blind fury revenge.

I'm sure If someone hurt a hair on the head of any of my family and I had the opportunity, I'd happily channel 'Mick Taylor' with them in my basement.

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From the Rolling Stones?   Undecided
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Reply #6 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 1:00pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
From the Rolling Stones?   Undecided


Wolf Creek.
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Reply #7 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 1:02pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 1:00pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:56pm:
From the Rolling Stones?   Undecided


Wolf Creek.


Ah.

I must watch that movie one day.

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Reply #8 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 3:15pm
 
I agree, totally.

Every politician should be put to death .......now.

These sub human creatures have learned to completely immerse their snouts and heads into the feed trough and still breath.
Its disgusting, they have somehow managed to evolve so that they can talk out of their Asssses.

No wonder everything they say is shite.

Putting them down would be a mercy on all humans.
And probably save the planet, all in one
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Reply #9 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 3:44pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
... I believe in the Death Penalty ...


I think you might have already mentioned that once or twice
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Reply #10 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 6:53pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 3:44pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
... I believe in the Death Penalty ...


I think you might have already mentioned that once or twice


With regard to animal cruelty?
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Reply #11 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 7:34pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
... and not just for the murder of humans.

Some people just do not deserve the privileges and comforts that come with living in modern Western civilisation with all of its many enjoyments.

These people are monsters in human form who should be aborted just as happens by the thousands each year when monsters are born in maternity operating rooms.



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There were some men that did worse than that to a live woman in northern NSW ... resulting in her death.

They have been sentenced .....

but I reckon they should die.
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Reply #12 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 7:55pm
 
Gnads wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 7:34pm:
There were some men that did worse than that to a live woman in northern NSW ... resulting in her death.

They have been sentenced .....

but I reckon they should die.


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They should have been gassed in a hyperbaric chamber.

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Reply #13 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 9:40pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:38pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
... and not just for the murder of humans.

Some people just do not deserve the privileges and comforts that come with living in modern Western civilisation with all of its many enjoyments.

These people are monsters in human form who should be aborted just as happens by the thousands each year when monsters are born in maternity operating rooms.



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A disturbing story, Her-bert.

The perpetrators are sick fvckers, that's for sure.

However, one of the "privileges and comforts that come with living in modern Western civilisation with all of its many enjoyments" is the knowledge that we don't lower ourselves to their level by using violence and killing as a way of solving problems or being entertained.

If we did, we couldn't truly call ourselves civilised.

I share your outrage, Her-bert, but there's no place in a civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals.


While I understand the urge to remove bastards like this from existence,   I feel that public naming and shaming is the way to go. Let these people be exposed to all for the way they have behaved.
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Reply #14 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 10:37pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:38pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
... and not just for the murder of humans.

Some people just do not deserve the privileges and comforts that come with living in modern Western civilisation with all of its many enjoyments.

These people are monsters in human form who should be aborted just as happens by the thousands each year when monsters are born in maternity operating rooms.



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A disturbing story, Her-bert.

The perpetrators are sick fvckers, that's for sure.

However, one of the "privileges and comforts that come with living in modern Western civilisation with all of its many enjoyments" is the knowledge that we don't lower ourselves to their level by using violence and killing as a way of solving problems or being entertained.

If we did, we couldn't truly call ourselves civilised.

I share your outrage, Her-bert, but there's no place in a civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals.
And yet you condone torture of these criminals. Is that civilised?
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Reply #15 - Oct 16th, 2016 at 11:16pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:44pm:
If I hit a deer like someone did in Bondi Junction the other week, I'd slice of a nice cut of venison for my dinner.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/police-investigate-after-deer-killed-by-car-on-busy-ro...



I reckon you could get some choice Venison backstraps in less than 2 minutes from a Deer like the one in Bondi Junction.

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Reply #16 - Oct 17th, 2016 at 2:04am
 
I believe  in common sense. We put down vicious dogs.
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Reply #17 - Oct 17th, 2016 at 6:21am
 
Belgarion wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 9:40pm:
While I understand the urge to remove bastards like this from existence,   I feel that public naming and shaming is the way to go. Let these people be exposed to all for the way they have behaved.


Grin Grin Grin

... but .... but .... I want to press the red button on that hyperbaric chamber.

Spoil sport, but okay, let them 'trial' your solution to this problem of beasts in human form.

I remember the couple of pranksters in America who got their jollies by squirting Lighter fuel on stray dogs and setting them alighting to gales of laughter while filming these fun times.

And then all these slaughterings of kangaroos and sheep in small kiddie's zoos.

I respect your more liberal-progressive choice here, Belgarion, but I personally would go the way of terminating these sick creatures.


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And speaking of road-kill ... Years before the war a friend of my father's was driving at night along a gun-barrel highway between paddy-fields in northern China when he heard a *BANG!*.

He kept on driving, as one did in those parts where bandits were plentiful. A couple of hours later he arrived home and found a boy's arm embedded in the front vertical grill that cooled the radiator ...

Not everything that goes *bump* in the night is a ghost or a burglar.
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Watch this one Herbert
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Reply #20 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:54am
 
Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:49am:


Watch this one Herbert


I backed out after 5 seconds.

How anyone can support this barbaric practice is beyond me.

Very, very disturbed individuals.

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Reply #21 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:06am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:54am:
Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:49am:


Watch this one Herbert


I backed out after 5 seconds.

How anyone can support this barbaric practice is beyond me.

Very, very disturbed individuals.



I couldn't watch it until the end , horrendous
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Reply #22 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:37am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:54am:
Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:49am:


Watch this one Herbert


I backed out after 5 seconds.

How anyone can support this barbaric practice is beyond me.

Very, very disturbed individuals.



Should have got popcorn
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Very, very disturbed individuals.
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Reply #24 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:45am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:37am:
Very, very disturbed individuals.


Ok. Non GM popcorn.
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Reply #25 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:46am
 
Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:06am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:54am:
Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:49am:


Watch this one Herbert


I backed out after 5 seconds.

How anyone can support this barbaric practice is beyond me.

Very, very disturbed individuals.



I couldn't watch it until the end , horrendous


You're not a sociopath, that's why.

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A couple of 7.62 mm rounds will do a better, more efficient job than that bullsh1t.


But, I bet he got a better death than his victims.  Smiley


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Reply #27 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:54am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:49am:
But, I bet he got a better death than his victims. 



That's not the point.

I knew one of the sociopaths would bring it up, though.

They always do.

Not a brain between them.

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Reply #28 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 11:00am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:46am:
Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:06am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:54am:
Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:49am:


Watch this one Herbert


I backed out after 5 seconds.

How anyone can support this barbaric practice is beyond me.

Very, very disturbed individuals.



I couldn't watch it until the end , horrendous


You're not a sociopath, that's why.



Maybe he prefers a good ISIS beheading video.  Much better production values.
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Reply #29 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 11:01am
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 11:00am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:46am:
Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:06am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:54am:
Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:49am:


Watch this one Herbert


I backed out after 5 seconds.

How anyone can support this barbaric practice is beyond me.

Very, very disturbed individuals.



I couldn't watch it until the end , horrendous


You're not a sociopath, that's why.



Maybe he prefers a good ISIS beheading video.  Much better production values.


Again, he's not a sociopath.

You're not getting it, are you?

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Reply #30 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 11:04am
 
Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:49am:


Watch this one Herbert


This is not a real execution , but a reconstruction by anti capital punishment campaigners.   
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Look at pecca backing killers. Typical.
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Reply #32 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 11:06am
 
Belgarion wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 11:04am:
Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:49am:


Watch this one Herbert


This is not a real execution , but a reconstruction by anti capital punishment campaigners.   


They should have hired the ISIS guy who directed  the cage video.  That should have won an Oscar.
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One by one, the sociopaths come out from under their rocks.

Like spiders.

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Reply #34 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 11:08am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:54am:
BigOl64 wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:49am:
But, I bet he got a better death than his victims. 



That's not the point.

I knew one of the sociopaths would bring it up, though.

They always do.

Not a brain between them.




Calm you vagina young lady, just stating a fact, not justifying.

No need to blubber, champ. It's all over now.
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Reply #35 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 11:11am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 11:07am:
One by one, the sociopaths come out from under their rocks.

Like spiders.



As you know I'm not pro death penalty  but I believe in the high production values of all films, regardless of topic.
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Reply #36 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:06pm
 
Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:49am:


Watch this one Herbert


Sure will, but first let me say that I'm sorry but I'll be a little late in presenting the video of this guy abducting a 9-year old on her way home from school by pulling her into his shag-wagon panel-van, and then driving her to a local National Park like the Belanglo State Forest, and then raping every orifice of her body over a period of hours before finally crushing her skull with a rock.

Thank you in advance for being patient.

Note: I believe in the Death Penalty for what I believe deserves the ultimate penalty, and not what others believe or what is American law in certain States.



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Reply #37 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:14pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:06pm:
Its time wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:49am:


Watch this one Herbert


Sure will, but first let me say that I'm sorry but I'll be a little late in presenting the video of this guy abducting a 9-year old on her way home from school by pulling her into his shag-wagon panel-van, and then driving her to a local National Park like the Belanglo State Forest, and then raping every orifice of her body over a period of hours before finally crushing her skull with a rock.

Thank you in advance for being patient.

Note: I believe in the Death Penalty for what I believe deserves the ultimate penalty, and not what others believe or what America law in certain States believe.



You're making the same mistake all the other drongos make, i.e. linking the death penalty to a particular crime.

FAIL!

There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.

Capital punishment is about the punishment, not the criminal.

The name is a dead give-away (pardon the pun).



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Reply #38 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:16pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 10:49am:
A couple of 7.62 mm rounds will do a better, more efficient job than that bullsh1t.


But, I bet he got a better death than his victims.  Smiley


The firing squad was Timothy McVeigh's exit-of-choice because he was a stand-up guy who didn't want to take it lying down. He had class.

We've all seen any number of firing squad executions from WWII footage, and it was always the case that the war criminals or spies dropped like a brick and were dead before they hit the ground.





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greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:14pm:
There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.



Are you saying the muslims in the birthplace of Islam are not civilised little pecca?

They have been doing it this way for over 1400 years you must be xenophobic

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Reply #40 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:36pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:14pm:
There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.



Are you saying the muslims in the birthplace of Islam are not civilised little pecca?

They have been doing it this way for over 1400 years you must be xenophobic

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The country is irrelevant.

There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.

Whether it be Australia, Indonesia, Canada, Iran, USA, Somalia, New Zealand, Qatar, or any other country.

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Reply #41 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:48pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:36pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:14pm:
There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.



Are you saying the muslims in the birthplace of Islam are not civilised little pecca?

They have been doing it this way for over 1400 years you must be xenophobic

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The country is irrelevant.

There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.

Whether it be Australia, Indonesia, Canada, Iran, USA, Somalia, New Zealand, Qatar, or any other country.

In my version of society there is. I believe murderers should be wiped off the face of the earth.
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Reply #42 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:49pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:36pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:14pm:
There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.



Are you saying the muslims in the birthplace of Islam are not civilised little pecca?

They have been doing it this way for over 1400 years you must be xenophobic

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The country is irrelevant.

There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.

Whether it be Australia, Indonesia, Canada, Iran, USA, Somalia, New Zealand, Qatar, or any other country.

In my version of society there is. I believe murderers should be wiped off the face of the earth.


Again, you're looking at the crime instead of the punishment.

Also, one man's executioner is another man's murderer.

If you had your way, the human race would be wiped out in a few years.

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Reply #43 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:57pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:49pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:36pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:14pm:
There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.



Are you saying the muslims in the birthplace of Islam are not civilised little pecca?

They have been doing it this way for over 1400 years you must be xenophobic

liveleak.com/view?i=935_1446044741


The country is irrelevant.

There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.

Whether it be Australia, Indonesia, Canada, Iran, USA, Somalia, New Zealand, Qatar, or any other country.

In my version of society there is. I believe murderers should be wiped off the face of the earth.


Again, you're looking at the crime instead of the punishment.

Also, one man's executioner is another man's murderer.

If you had your way, the human race would be wiped out in a few years.

The problem with the western world is that it's run by pc pussies like you.  As a consequence people don't respect the law because they see it as weak. Anybody who wilfully takes another's life would be killed nice and quick if I had my way. To take everything a person ever will have means they should have their existence taken away. An eye for a eye. Capital punishment will come around again. There will be a day when governments can't afford to keeps millions of crimos. Maybe something like Escape From New York will be devised. Big walled off places where prisoners look after themselves. America is cracking now under the weight of massive crime. It is going to be a scary future.
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Reply #44 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:03pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:57pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:49pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:36pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:14pm:
There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.



Are you saying the muslims in the birthplace of Islam are not civilised little pecca?

They have been doing it this way for over 1400 years you must be xenophobic

liveleak.com/view?i=935_1446044741


The country is irrelevant.

There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.

Whether it be Australia, Indonesia, Canada, Iran, USA, Somalia, New Zealand, Qatar, or any other country.

In my version of society there is. I believe murderers should be wiped off the face of the earth.


Again, you're looking at the crime instead of the punishment.

Also, one man's executioner is another man's murderer.

If you had your way, the human race would be wiped out in a few years.

The problem with the western world is that it's run by pc pussies like you.  As a consequence people don't respect the law because they see it as weak. Anybody who wilfully takes another's life would be killed nice and quick if I had my way. To take everything a person ever will have means they should have their existence taken away. An eye for a eye. Capital punishment will come around again. There will be a day when governments can't afford to keeps millions of crimos. Maybe something like Escape From New York will be devised. Big walled off places where prisoners look after themselves. America is cracking now under the weight of massive crime. It is going to be a scary future.


Everything about your post, as usual, is wrong.

Capital punishment doesn't deter others from committing crimes.

Plus, it costs more than life imprisonment.

And, it's not about the crime: it's about the punishment.


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Reply #45 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:10pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:03pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:57pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:49pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:48pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:36pm:
Baronvonrort wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:27pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:14pm:
There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.



Are you saying the muslims in the birthplace of Islam are not civilised little pecca?

They have been doing it this way for over 1400 years you must be xenophobic

liveleak.com/view?i=935_1446044741


The country is irrelevant.

There is no place in civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals, no matter how heinous the crime.

Whether it be Australia, Indonesia, Canada, Iran, USA, Somalia, New Zealand, Qatar, or any other country.

In my version of society there is. I believe murderers should be wiped off the face of the earth.


Again, you're looking at the crime instead of the punishment.

Also, one man's executioner is another man's murderer.

If you had your way, the human race would be wiped out in a few years.

The problem with the western world is that it's run by pc pussies like you.  As a consequence people don't respect the law because they see it as weak. Anybody who wilfully takes another's life would be killed nice and quick if I had my way. To take everything a person ever will have means they should have their existence taken away. An eye for a eye. Capital punishment will come around again. There will be a day when governments can't afford to keeps millions of crimos. Maybe something like Escape From New York will be devised. Big walled off places where prisoners look after themselves. America is cracking now under the weight of massive crime. It is going to be a scary future.


Everything about your post, as usual, is wrong.

Capital punishment doesn't deter others from committing crimes.

Plus, it costs more than life imprisonment.

And, it's not about the crime: it's about the punishment.



Wrong.  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Good hard laws are better than pussy laws like what you want. Look at China. Now they have respect for their laws. Also I said I'd have them killed  straight after conviction. That would be cheaper than keeping some murderer in jail for the rest of their life. Many people think like me and capital punishment will come around again. The more the world gets out of control , laws will become stricter. And the world is becoming a mess. Here comes capital punishment.
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Reply #47 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:12pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:57pm:
An eye for a eye.


Okay, let's address this ridiculous statement on two fronts.

1. Using your "logic", the executioner would then have to be killed. Then ... (do you see where this is going yet?).

2. What about rape cases - send out a public servant to rape the criminal?
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Reply #48 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:14pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Also I said I'd have them killed  straight after conviction.


That would result in hundreds of innocent people being executed.

It takes about 11 years, on average, for innocent people on death row to be released.
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Reply #49 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:18pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:12pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:57pm:
An eye for a eye.


Okay, let's address this ridiculous statement on two fronts.

1. Using your "logic", the executioner would then have to be killed. Then ... (do you see where this is going yet?).

2. What about rape cases - send out a public servant to rape the criminal?
Take it up with god. It's in the bible. The executioner is representing the victim and their family. For rape a lengthy jail sentence is fair except if it's performed on a child. Then they would be put to death too if I had my way.
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Reply #50 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:20pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Also I said I'd have them killed  straight after conviction.


That would result in hundreds of innocent people being executed.

It takes about 11 years, on average, for innocent people on death row to be released.
With dna evidence they rarely get cases wrong these days.
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Reply #51 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:21pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Also I said I'd have them killed  straight after conviction.


That would result in hundreds of innocent people being executed.

It takes about 11 years, on average, for innocent people on death row to be released.
With dna evidence they rarely get cases wrong these days.


Incorrect.

You want to kill innocent people.

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Reply #52 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:22pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:12pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:57pm:
An eye for a eye.


Okay, let's address this ridiculous statement on two fronts.

1. Using your "logic", the executioner would then have to be killed. Then ... (do you see where this is going yet?).

2. What about rape cases - send out a public servant to rape the criminal?
Take it up with god. It's in the bible. The executioner is representing the victim and their family. For rape a lengthy jail sentence is fair except if it's performed on a child. Then they would be put to death too if I had my way.


1. We are a secular country.

2. If the executioner kills, he must be killed too. An eye for an eye, you said.

3. An eye for an eye means that you would have to rape a rapist. Are you volunteering for the job?

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Reply #53 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:25pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Also I said I'd have them killed  straight after conviction.


That would result in hundreds of innocent people being executed.

It takes about 11 years, on average, for innocent people on death row to be released.
With dna evidence they rarely get cases wrong these days.


Incorrect.

You want to kill innocent people.

Cut and dry case and their dead. End of story.
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Reply #54 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:28pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Also I said I'd have them killed  straight after conviction.


That would result in hundreds of innocent people being executed.

It takes about 11 years, on average, for innocent people on death row to be released.
With dna evidence they rarely get cases wrong these days.


Incorrect.

You want to kill innocent people.

Cut and dry case and their dead. End of story.


You will kill innocent people.

Then, you would have to be killed.

An eye for an eye.

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Reply #55 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:28pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:22pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:12pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 12:57pm:
An eye for a eye.


Okay, let's address this ridiculous statement on two fronts.

1. Using your "logic", the executioner would then have to be killed. Then ... (do you see where this is going yet?).

2. What about rape cases - send out a public servant to rape the criminal?
Take it up with god. It's in the bible. The executioner is representing the victim and their family. For rape a lengthy jail sentence is fair except if it's performed on a child. Then they would be put to death too if I had my way.


1. We are a secular country.

2. If the executioner kills, he must be killed too. An eye for an eye, you said.

3. An eye for an eye means that you would have to rape a rapist. Are you volunteering for the job?

My executioners would be on massive salaries. Eye for an eye means getting back what was given. It's doesn't mean it has  to be the exact same thing nincumpoop. It can be an alternate punishment that is fitting. Stop being silly.
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Reply #56 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:30pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Also I said I'd have them killed  straight after conviction.


That would result in hundreds of innocent people being executed.

It takes about 11 years, on average, for innocent people on death row to be released.
With dna evidence they rarely get cases wrong these days.


Incorrect.

You want to kill innocent people.

Cut and dry case and their dead. End of story.


You will kill innocent people.

Then, you would have to be killed.

An eye for an eye.

You'd rather keep people alive who in many circumstances have killed multiple people. You are what's wrong with the world pecca. No guts. No spine. Weak and a victim.
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Reply #57 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:07pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:30pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:28pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:25pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:20pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:10pm:
Also I said I'd have them killed  straight after conviction.


That would result in hundreds of innocent people being executed.

It takes about 11 years, on average, for innocent people on death row to be released.
With dna evidence they rarely get cases wrong these days.


Incorrect.

You want to kill innocent people.

Cut and dry case and their dead. End of story.


You will kill innocent people.

Then, you would have to be killed.

An eye for an eye.

You'd rather keep people alive who  ...


I'd rather not use killing as an act of revenge or punishment.

I'm a civilised human being.
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Reply #58 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:10pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:30pm:
You are what's wrong with the world pecca.


No.

You are what's wrong with the world.

You see violence, torture, and murder as legitimate solutions to certain problems.

That's a barbaric, cowardly approach that degrades all of humanity.

I'm everything that's good about the world.
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Reply #59 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:11pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:07pm:
I'd rather not use killing as an act of revenge or punishment.

I'm a civilised human being.


Is it civilised to put them behind bars instead of releasing them onto an inhabitable island in the Pacific?
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Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:07pm:
I'd rather not use killing as an act of revenge or punishment.

I'm a civilised human being.


Is it civilised to put them behind bars instead of releasing them onto an inhabitable island in the Pacific?


That's your dilemma. I'll leave you to answer it.

I maintain that civilised people do not condone killing as an act of revenge or punishment.

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Reply #61 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:21pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:10pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 1:30pm:
You are what's wrong with the world pecca.


No.

You are what's wrong with the world.

You see violence, torture, and murder as legitimate solutions to certain problems.

That's a barbaric, cowardly approach that degrades all of humanity.

I'm everything that's good about the world.
You are the product of a spoilt lifestyle and too much money. Because you have your lovely bachelor pad Vic Park existence you believe the rest of the world is like that. It's not. It's a nuthouse which doesn't play with upper middle class Vic Park rules. Until the world gets better people need to fight back and have backing. Otherwise we all turn into victims.
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Reply #62 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:22pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:16pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:07pm:
I'd rather not use killing as an act of revenge or punishment.

I'm a civilised human being.


Is it civilised to put them behind bars instead of releasing them onto an inhabitable island in the Pacific?


That's your dilemma. I'll leave you to answer it.

I maintain that civilised people do not condone killing as an act of revenge or punishment.

monsters don't deserve mercy.
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I haven't heard many compelling arguments against the death penalty actually.
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Reply #64 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:47pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:22pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:16pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:07pm:
I'd rather not use killing as an act of revenge or punishment.

I'm a civilised human being.


Is it civilised to put them behind bars instead of releasing them onto an inhabitable island in the Pacific?


That's your dilemma. I'll leave you to answer it.

I maintain that civilised people do not condone killing as an act of revenge or punishment.

monsters don't deserve mercy.


Once again, you miss the point.

Nobody is talking about mercy.

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I haven't heard many compelling arguments against the death penalty actually. 


Yet you oppose it.

Do you know your arse from your elbow?

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I view the death penalty the same was as I view Bali - it may have its good points - but I have zero interest in going there...
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You can always count on Pecker to take the faggiest position on any topic.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:55pm:
I view the death penalty the same was as I view Bali - it may have its good points - but I have zero interest in going there...
I bet you would if somebody killed your family.
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Reply #69 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:06pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:05pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:55pm:
I view the death penalty the same was as I view Bali - it may have its good points - but I have zero interest in going there...
I bet you would if somebody killed your family.


Once again, you're looking at the wrong aspect of the topic.

It's not about the crime, or the criminal: it's about the punishment.

Civilised people don't support premeditated, state-sanctioned killing as an act of revenge or punishment, no matter how heinous the crime or who the victims are.

You need to address the issue objectively, but I know that's not a skill you possess.

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Reply #70 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:09pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
I haven't heard many compelling arguments against the death penalty actually. 


Yet you oppose it.

Do you know your arse from your elbow?



The bulk of the arguments against are sanctity of life or about the barbarity.  I believe barbaric humans deserve a barbaric death. 

And regarding it not  being a 100% effective deterrent well no punishment is but to some % it would be a deterrent.  It's certainty an effective punishment.

My only reason to object it is because I have such  little faith in our legal system.

You only need to look at the analytical skills of the bloke on here who reckons he's a lawyer.  If my defence in a murder charge came down to providing evidence that I took a photo from a hill and not a hover car, I'd be screwed.  Cheesy
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Reply #71 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:11pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:05pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:55pm:
I view the death penalty the same was as I view Bali - it may have its good points - but I have zero interest in going there...
I bet you would if somebody killed your family.


Once again, you're looking at the wrong aspect of the topic.

It's not about the crime, or the criminal: it's about the punishment.

Civilised people don't support premeditated, state-sanctioned killing as an act of revenge or punishment, no matter how heinous the crime or who the victims are.

You need to address the issue objectively, but I know that's not a skill you possess.

Sure pecca. Many countries in the world have capital punishment. 1st and 3rd world. You need to pull your head out of your ass.
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Re: I believe in the Death Penalty ...
Reply #72 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:21pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:38pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 16th, 2016 at 12:31pm:
... and not just for the murder of humans.

Some people just do not deserve the privileges and comforts that come with living in modern Western civilisation with all of its many enjoyments.

These people are monsters in human form who should be aborted just as happens by the thousands each year when monsters are born in maternity operating rooms.



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A disturbing story, Her-bert.

The perpetrators are sick fvckers, that's for sure.

However, one of the "privileges and comforts that come with living in modern Western civilisation with all of its many enjoyments" is the knowledge that we don't lower ourselves to their level by using violence and killing as a way of solving problems or being entertained.

If we did, we couldn't truly call ourselves civilised.

I share your outrage, Her-bert, but there's no place in a civilised society for the premeditated, state-sanctioned killing of prisoners/criminals.


And where did that civilization come from? The answer is: Britain.
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Reply #73 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:41pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
I haven't heard many compelling arguments against the death penalty actually. 


Yet you oppose it.

Do you know your arse from your elbow?



I believe barbaric humans deserve a barbaric death. 



Which makes you barbaric.

Thus, you deserve a barbaric death.

This isn't gonna end well, Gordy.

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Reply #74 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:44pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:09pm:
And regarding it not  being a 100% effective deterrent well no punishment is but to some % it would be a deterrent. 


Yet there's very little (if any) evidence to support your claim.



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Re: I believe in the Death Penalty ...
Reply #75 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:47pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:05pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:55pm:
I view the death penalty the same was as I view Bali - it may have its good points - but I have zero interest in going there...
I bet you would if somebody killed your family.


Once again, you're looking at the wrong aspect of the topic.

It's not about the crime, or the criminal: it's about the punishment.

Civilised people don't support premeditated, state-sanctioned killing as an act of revenge or punishment, no matter how heinous the crime or who the victims are.

You need to address the issue objectively, but I know that's not a skill you possess.




Exactly - that is not to say I would not kill in defence or rage - IF necessary.... to defend my own.

We had a case of a paedophile in the ex's family, and someone said not to tell the mother because she would kill the perp. My response was that no jury would convict her....
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Re: I believe in the Death Penalty ...
Reply #76 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:51pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:16pm:
Lord Herbert wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:11pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:07pm:
I'd rather not use killing as an act of revenge or punishment.

I'm a civilised human being.


Is it civilised to put them behind bars instead of releasing them onto an inhabitable island in the Pacific?


That's your dilemma. I'll leave you to answer it.

I maintain that civilised people do not condone killing as an act of revenge or punishment.




You keep repeating that as much as you beat your rod.
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Reply #77 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:52pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
I haven't heard many compelling arguments against the death penalty actually. 


Yet you oppose it.

Do you know your arse from your elbow?



I believe barbaric humans deserve a barbaric death. 



Which makes you barbaric.

Thus, you deserve a barbaric death.

This isn't gonna end well, Gordy.



Isn't having the desire for revenge and justice but the restraint to control it about as normal and unbarbaric as a human can be?
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Reply #78 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:55pm
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
I haven't heard many compelling arguments against the death penalty actually. 


Yet you oppose it.

Do you know your arse from your elbow?



I believe barbaric humans deserve a barbaric death. 



Which makes you barbaric.

Thus, you deserve a barbaric death.

This isn't gonna end well, Gordy.



Isn't having the desire for revenge and justice but the restraint to control it about as normal and unbarbaric as a human can be?


This is your quote:

"I believe barbaric humans deserve a barbaric death."

That makes you barbaric.

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Reply #79 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:58pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:55pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:52pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:41pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:09pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:47pm:
Gordon wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
I haven't heard many compelling arguments against the death penalty actually. 


Yet you oppose it.

Do you know your arse from your elbow?



I believe barbaric humans deserve a barbaric death. 



Which makes you barbaric.

Thus, you deserve a barbaric death.

This isn't gonna end well, Gordy.



Isn't having the desire for revenge and justice but the restraint to control it about as normal and unbarbaric as a human can be?


This is your quote:

"I believe barbaric humans deserve a barbaric death."

That makes you barbaric.



But not by useless lawyers and judges.
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Reply #80 - Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:19pm
 
Somebody needs to take out the garbage.
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Reply #81 - Oct 19th, 2016 at 9:41am
 
issuevoter wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:19pm:
Somebody needs to take out the garbage.


Civilised people do not condone premeditated, state-sanctioned killing as an act of revenge or punishment.
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Reply #82 - Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:08am
 
People who violate the social contract by committing deliberate heinous crimes should be put outside the protection of the social contract, they should be outlawed.

The state should remove its protection from them.

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Reply #83 - Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:09am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19th, 2016 at 9:41am:
issuevoter wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 9:19pm:
Somebody needs to take out the garbage.


Civilised people do not condone premeditated, state-sanctioned killing as an act of revenge or punishment.



Why not? Why must the state protect everyone equally??

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Reply #84 - Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:11am
 
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:08am:
People who violate the social contract by committing deliberate heinous crimes should be put outside the protection of the social contract, they should be outlawed.

The state should remove its protection from them.



That's one view.

An uncivilised, barbaric view.

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Reply #85 - Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:15am
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:05pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:55pm:
I view the death penalty the same was as I view Bali - it may have its good points - but I have zero interest in going there...
I bet you would if somebody killed your family.


Once again, you're looking at the wrong aspect of the topic.

It's not about the crime, or the criminal: it's about the punishment.

Civilised people don't support premeditated, state-sanctioned killing as an act of revenge or punishment, no matter how heinous the crime or who the victims are.

You need to address the issue objectively, but I know that's not a skill you possess.



Are you OK with convicted murderers  being kept in a prison where the budget is  $5 a head per day?
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Reply #86 - Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:42am
 
Gordon wrote on Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:15am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 3:05pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Oct 18th, 2016 at 2:55pm:
I view the death penalty the same was as I view Bali - it may have its good points - but I have zero interest in going there...
I bet you would if somebody killed your family.


Once again, you're looking at the wrong aspect of the topic.

It's not about the crime, or the criminal: it's about the punishment.

Civilised people don't support premeditated, state-sanctioned killing as an act of revenge or punishment, no matter how heinous the crime or who the victims are.

You need to address the issue objectively, but I know that's not a skill you possess.



Are you OK with convicted murderers  being kept in a prison where the budget is  $5 a head per day?


I'm not okay with the barbaric practice involving the premeditated, stat-sanctioned killing of prisoners (which is the topic we are discussing).

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Reply #87 - Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:42am
 
$5/head/day would not be enough to pay for food enough to stave off nutritional problems,  let alone cover the cost of guards.

Then there's clothing,  soap,  toothpaste,  toothbrushes,  electricity,  water, bedding,  lighting, medical needs,  etc.

Didn't think that all the way through,  did you.
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Reply #88 - Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:45am
 
Pecca sanctions torture but condemns death penalty. any hypocrisy in this?
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Reply #89 - Oct 19th, 2016 at 11:05am
 
mothra wrote on Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:42am:
$5/head/day would not be enough to pay for food enough to stave off nutritional problems,  let alone cover the cost of guards.

Then there's clothing,  soap,  toothpaste,  toothbrushes,  electricity,  water, bedding,  lighting, medical needs,  etc.

Didn't think that all the way through,  did you.


To be fair, Gordy hasn't thought many things all the way through in the past week or so.

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Reply #90 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:07pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:11am:
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:08am:
People who violate the social contract by committing deliberate heinous crimes should be put outside the protection of the social contract, they should be outlawed.

The state should remove its protection from them.



That's one view.

An uncivilised, barbaric view.



You are completely unable  to articulate why it might be uncivilised or barbaric, though.

The state doesn't own anyone so it is not obliged to protect everyone, especially those who wilfully break the social contract.  This is why the death penalty can be legal. It is no more uncivilised or barbaric than legalising abortion or euthanasia or the switching off life support. If anything, it is far more logical and internally consistent because it is clear about the mutual obligations of state and citizen. Nobody is coerced to break the social contract by committing a capital crime.
The killing of an unborn baby or a demented person is far more fraught and difficult to defend than the death penalty.

The latter has what the other two do not: conscious agency by the one being put to death.







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Reply #91 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:19pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:07pm:
The state doesn't own anyone so it is not obliged to protect everyone


Nobody said anything about protecting anyone.

Try to stay on topic.

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Reply #92 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:21pm
 
mothra wrote on Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:42am:
$5/head/day would not be enough to pay for food enough to stave off nutritional problems,  let alone cover the cost of guards.

Then there's clothing,  soap,  toothpaste,  toothbrushes,  electricity,  water, bedding,  lighting, medical needs,  etc.

Didn't think that all the way through,  did you.


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Reply #93 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:32pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:11am:
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:08am:
People who violate the social contract by committing deliberate heinous crimes should be put outside the protection of the social contract, they should be outlawed.

The state should remove its protection from them.



That's one view.

An uncivilised, barbaric view.



You are completely unable  to articulate why it might be uncivilised or barbaric, though.


Only an uncivilised barbarian would need it articulated.

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Reply #94 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 8:06pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:07pm:
The state doesn't own anyone so it is not obliged to protect everyone


Nobody said anything about protecting anyone.




So why not outlaw them??
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Reply #95 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 8:22pm
 
Frank wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 8:06pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:19pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:07pm:
The state doesn't own anyone so it is not obliged to protect everyone


Nobody said anything about protecting anyone.




So why not outlaw them??


Outlaw who?

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Reply #96 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 9:12pm
 
Outlaw those who deliberately and murderously offend against others, for example.  Those who put themselves outside the law by deliberately transgressing it.


Who did you think (if that's not too strong a word in your case).
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Reply #97 - Oct 21st, 2016 at 9:18pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:32pm:
Frank wrote on Oct 21st, 2016 at 7:07pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:11am:
Frank wrote on Oct 19th, 2016 at 10:08am:
People who violate the social contract by committing deliberate heinous crimes should be put outside the protection of the social contract, they should be outlawed.

The state should remove its protection from them.



That's one view.

An uncivilised, barbaric view.



You are completely unable  to articulate why it might be uncivilised or barbaric, though.


Only an uncivilised barbarian would need it articulated.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


You are too thick to explain your own position!!!!!



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