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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Return to SA? Oct 10^th, 2016 at 1:49pm Hello Territorians, Just for a hypothetical argument and out of curiosity: would you mind if the NT was return to South Australia, but on the condition that the NT was guaranteed self-government (i.e. by the Parliament of South Australia)?
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Raven Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2981 Around	Re: Return to SA? Reply #1 - Oct 13^th, 2016 at 6:59pm Nope Bring on statehood
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6488 Gender:	Re: Return to SA? Reply #2 - Oct 13^th, 2016 at 7:05pm How the hell can you have self government and be returned to SA?
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Reply #3 - Oct 13^th, 2016 at 9:00pm

miketrees wrote on Oct 13^th, 2016 at 7:05pm:

How the hell can you have self government and be returned to SA?

In a hypothetical situation, it would be done as an agreement between South Australia and Northern Territory, that the latter would be conferred with self-governance by legislation as a condition for being 'symbolically' returned to South Australia.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6488 Gender:	Re: Return to SA? Reply #4 - Oct 14^th, 2016 at 6:54am SA has nothing to offer the NT
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UnSubRocky Gold Member Offline Australian Legend Posts: 21726 Rockhampton, Q Gender:	Re: Return to SA? Reply #5 - Nov 4^th, 2016 at 11:51pm Would probably call for a name change to the state. Central Australia, or something like that?
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Reply #6 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 1:27am

Auggie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2016 at 1:49pm:

Hello Territorians,

Just for a hypothetical argument and out of curiosity: would you mind if the NT was return to South Australia, but on the condition that the NT was guaranteed self-government (i.e. by the Parliament of South Australia)?

Can you take Tasmania, Victoria and Queensland as well?

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Reply #7 - Nov 5^th, 2016 at 10:23pm

Unforgiven wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 1:27am:

Auggie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2016 at 1:49pm:

Hello Territorians,

Just for a hypothetical argument and out of curiosity: would you mind if the NT was return to South Australia, but on the condition that the NT was guaranteed self-government (i.e. by the Parliament of South Australia)?

Can you take Tasmania, Victoria and Queensland as well?

What? And make NSW feel even more inferior than it already is?

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Reply #8 - Dec 1^st, 2017 at 9:30pm

Unforgiven wrote on Nov 5^th, 2016 at 1:27am:

Auggie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2016 at 1:49pm:

Hello Territorians,

Just for a hypothetical argument and out of curiosity: would you mind if the NT was return to South Australia, but on the condition that the NT was guaranteed self-government (i.e. by the Parliament of South Australia)?

Can you take Tasmania, Victoria and Queensland as well?

Sure, why not?

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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: Return to SA? Reply #9 - Dec 1^st, 2017 at 9:31pm miketrees wrote on Oct 13^th, 2016 at 7:05pm: How the hell can you have self government and be returned to SA? The Federal government could repeal the Acceptance Act, which transferred the NT from SA. If they repealed the Act, then the NT would constitutionally belong to SA.
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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: Return to SA? Reply #10 - Dec 1^st, 2017 at 9:32pm miketrees wrote on Oct 14^th, 2016 at 6:54am: SA has nothing to offer the NT That's not the point: it used to belong to us; the Constitution specifically states "and the northern territory of South Australia".
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Auggie Gold Member Offline The Bull Moose Posts: 8571	Re: Return to SA? Reply #11 - Dec 1^st, 2017 at 9:33pm UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 4^th, 2016 at 11:51pm: Would probably call for a name change to the state. Central Australia, or something like that? I could live with that; but I would prefer the 'north territory of South Australia'.
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Reply #12 - Dec 1^st, 2017 at 9:34pm

Auggie wrote on Oct 10^th, 2016 at 1:49pm:

Hello Territorians,

Just for a hypothetical argument and out of curiosity: would you mind if the NT was return to South Australia, but on the condition that the NT was guaranteed self-government (i.e. by the Parliament of South Australia)?

On second thought, I wouldn't grant northern territory self-government; we would include NT and SA MPs in the same Parliament.

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Vulcan Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 119 Gender:	Re: Return to SA? Reply #13 - Dec 1^st, 2017 at 10:35pm Doesn't SA have enough trouble trying to run it's own State? Let alone taking on the responsibility of another people way up there in the far north - that should have developed into a State of their own accord by now. SA trying to take on too much for a Territory that is giving so little?
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Reply #14 - Dec 1^st, 2017 at 10:41pm

Vulcan wrote on Dec 1^st, 2017 at 10:35pm:

Doesn't SA have enough trouble trying to run it's own State? Let alone taking on the responsibility of another people way up there in the far north - that should have developed into a State of their own accord by now.
SA trying to take on too much for a Territory that is giving so little?

By reducing the role of the Federal Government, SA can take on any State in Australia. The problem is that the States are strangled by the feds through taxes and grants.

NT is a territory for a specific reason - it is sparsely populated and doesn't have enough population to warrant Statehood.

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