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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Carbon dioxide level rises permanently above 400 Oct 1^st, 2016 at 11:20am It is still rising. This is a bad portent for global warming. Float some of your icebergs our way Bobby the berg man. http://futurism.com/we-just-passed-another-global-warming-threshold-and-theres-n...
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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Carbon dioxide level rises permanently above 400 Reply #1 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 11:32am gosh so renewable isnt working then?..
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Carbon dioxide level rises permanently above 400 Reply #2 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:10pm cods wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 11:32am: gosh so renewable isnt working then?.. If Cods holds its breath it will help.
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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 16436 Gender:	Re: Carbon dioxide level rises permanently above 400 Reply #3 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:12pm Well that's a good thing. CO2 is plant food. It means they use less water. They grow better.
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Carbon dioxide level rises permanently above 400 Reply #4 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:22pm lee wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:12pm: Well that's a good thing. CO2 is plant food. It means they use less water. They grow better. Cods is a fermented grape fancier. Cods is usually more highly fermented than the grapes.
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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 16436 Gender:	Re: Carbon dioxide level rises permanently above 400 Reply #5 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:26pm Unforgiven wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:22pm: Cods is a fermented grape fancier. Cods is usually more highly fermented than the grapes. From your interminable ramblings I thought it was you in the grip of the grape.
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Reply #6 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:27pm

Unforgiven wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:22pm:

lee wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:12pm:

Well that's a good thing. CO2 is plant food. It means they use less water. They grow better. Wink

Cods is a fermented grape fancier. Cods is usually more highly fermented than the grapes.

You are more fermented than grapes I reckon.

I do like your one liners though! Grin

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lee Gold Member Online Australian Politics Posts: 16436 Gender:	Re: Carbon dioxide level rises permanently above 400 Reply #7 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:33pm Unforgiven wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 11:20am: Float some of your icebergs our way Bobby the berg man. I haven't seen any correlation between icebergs and CO2. Can you provide a reference?
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Carbon dioxide level rises permanently above 400 Reply #8 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:46pm cods wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 11:32am: gosh so renewable isnt working then?.. Is this why coalition members, including Turnbull, are waging a Jihad against renewables. They have a death wish.
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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Carbon dioxide level rises permanently above 400 Reply #9 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:47pm lee wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:12pm: Well that's a good thing. CO2 is plant food. It means they use less water. They grow better. Shame about the drop in nutrition.
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Reply #10 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 1:05pm

lee wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:33pm:

Unforgiven wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 11:20am:

Float some of your icebergs our way Bobby the berg man.

I haven't seen any correlation between icebergs and CO2. Can you provide a reference?

You have to put that question to Bobby Bergman who has a supercomputer made from ice.

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Reply #11 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 1:45pm

____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:47pm:

Shame about the drop in nutrition.

CO2 is postulated to increase yield by 30-40%.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11540191

Nutrition could drop by 9.3%

'Crops grown in the high-CO2 atmosphere of the future could be significantly less nutritious, a new study published today in Nature suggests. '

'The current atmospheric CO2 level is 400 parts per million; in the enriched plots, it was between 546 and 586 parts per million, a level scientists expect the atmosphere to reach in four to six decades.'

'The largest was a 9.3 percent drop in the zinc level in wheat. '

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/05/140507-crops-nutrition-climate-c...

So they are saying in future nutrition MAY drop. Of course that is today's cultivars and not those yet to be created.

Apparently humans need as much zinc as 11mg/day. Weeta-bix (similar to Weetbix) gives 1mg/serve (two Biscuits). So your Weetbix (97% wholegrain) ain't gunna save you anyway. So 10% less would equal 0.9mg/serve.

But there are other sources of dietary zinc, apart from supplements.

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Zinc-HealthProfessional/

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Reply #12 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 2:08pm

lee wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 1:45pm:

____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 12:47pm:

Shame about the drop in nutrition.

CO2 crop growth enhancement and toxicity in wheat and rice.

CO2 is postulated to increase yield by 30-40%.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11540191

Nutrition could drop by 9.3%

'Crops grown in the high-CO2 atmosphere of the future could be significantly less nutritious, a new study published today in Nature suggests. '

'The current atmospheric CO2 level is 400 parts per million; in the enriched plots, it was between 546 and 586 parts per million, a level scientists expect the atmosphere to reach in four to six decades.'

'The largest was a 9.3 percent drop in the zinc level in wheat. '

Increasing CO2 Threatens Human Nutrition

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/05/140507-crops-nutrition-climate-c...

So they are saying in future nutrition MAY drop. Of course that is today's cultivars and not those yet to be created.

And aliens may make contact and give us technology.

Apparently humans need as much zinc as 11mg/day. Weeta-bix (similar to Weetbix) gives 1mg/serve (two Biscuits). So your Weetbix (97% wholegrain) ain't gunna save you anyway. So 10% less would equal 0.9mg/serve.

But there are other sources of dietary zinc, apart from supplements.

https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Zinc-HealthProfessional/

Only the mentally ill, or those who see short term financial gain, would suggest gambling human survival on the worst odd game in the casino.

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Reply #13 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 2:14pm

____ wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 2:08pm:

Only the mentally ill, or those who see short term financial gain, would suggest gambling human survival on the worst odd game in the casino.

Only the mentally unstable can't see the minor proportion of a healthy diet comes from grains. That most comes from other food sources. Take an oyster every week. Cheesy

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Grendel Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 28080 Gender:	Re: Carbon dioxide level rises permanently above 400 Reply #14 - Oct 1^st, 2016 at 2:18pm CO2 levels go up and down, only an idiot would say it is irreversible. BTW we humans are not adding any more carbon in one form or another, to the system, than was there at the beginning.
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