I have actually heard some guy on the radio that has written a book on Australia DLS .

He claims it costs the Qld economy millions each year

Anyway his proposal is we move all eastern states clocks forward 30 minutes all year round and leave the other states as is.

To me that sounded a reasonable compromise that wouldnt piss off the banana benders to much and give a bit of daylight saving to the other eastern states.

John Smith wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 9:14am:



It is a brilliant move to have nothing at all to do with DLS, as it serves no purpose to those of us in the north; as a bonus it gives SEQ the sh1ts not having it. 



Still too stupid to realise that every insult merely strengthens our resolve, cretins. 



And this is what NTH QLD & QLD should look like to make everyone happy

John Smith wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 9:32am:



Yeah, after 2 trials and a referendum; SEQ has been deluding themselves with that belief for 40 years. 


It won't happen because WE say it won't happen.


You people want it bad enough give us our own state and you can be just like the southerners whose acceptance you crave.

John Smith wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 9:39am:



I friggen new you were nothing more than a blow in from another state. Your opinions about MY state are irrelevant as you are not a Queenslander of any description.


It's you friggen southerners coming into our state and fkking it up because you want your bullsh1t, is what is ruining our place. Worse than cockroaches.

John Smith wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 10:01am:



I don't take a lot of notice about what you have to say, so ..........


You may consider those south east Queenslanders weak, but your assessment does not apply to us. We have been fighting this a lot longer than you have been in SEQ and you have a lot to learn about Queensland and Queenslanders.


You have no standing here. But you could always fkk off back to where you came from, that would probably make a lot of actual Queenslanders happy and maybe you as well.

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 10:16am:


As long as I know it gives you the sh1ts, I'll stay here. I might even move further North.

John Smith wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 10:24am:



Most of you idiots rarely go past Noosa, so I don't think Ill be too worried about your travels.

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 10:29am:


I'm considering Hervey Bay for a few years. Then when you move back to Nq let me know and I might move to townsville. You supply the beer.

John Smith wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 11:12am:



As a non-Queenslander you are not aware, due to your pig ignorance, but the majority of QLD's dairy herd is in SEQ and has nothing to do with us, as the vast majority of our herd is fkken beef cattle you inbred city wanker. As an inbred city wanker you may not know this, but day light time do not affect beef, only dairy farmers.

No doubt about it when you want to look stupid you do not fkk around do you? 

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 11:51am:



That sounds all nice and informative, except that I didn't say anything about cows, dairy or otherwise ....I only mentioned curtains

off the two of us, only one idiot mentioned cows ........ now I'll give you two guesses as to which one. 

I did not have to vote for the referendum, as I was too young. But, I got what I wanted. Dad was one of those people who liked daylight savings at first. Then it got ridiculous, with summer time evenings extending into 8pm and beyond. I recall a 7pm evening with the sun still out, and numerous hot 37+ degrees for days on end. We were happy to see it end in 1991.

I generally feel sorry for the parents who have young children. Trying to get their children to go to bed when the children can plainly see that it is still daylight outside. Just a complete sunset is all it takes to drop temperatures up to and over 10 degrees celsius in many regions. Sit on the verandah at sunset, and wait for the sun to set. Keep an eye on the temperature at sunset, and again when the sun is no longer visible.

If southeast Queensland wants to be on par with NSW and Victoria, should they at least try and start business hours earlier? That way, they can finish earlier, and then go down to the beach, like that quietly want. No point dragging in the majority of Queenslanders back into the 1980s again.

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2016 at 7:50am:



actually, they're the arguments of the 'anti' daylight saving brigade .... try again


lucky I gave you two guesses, i knew you'd need it.

poo we're half way through summer and the SEQ DLS cretins are still grasping at straws. While North Queensland is forced to be a part of south east Queensland, they will NEVER get day light saving.

Yeah we get it, SEQ wants to be a part of NSW, just like they used to be, break up the state and off you go, numpties. 





Daylight saving is a fantastic initiative, Queensland's Acting Premier Jackie Trad says.

Ms Trad's remarks come after the almost-annual debate was reignited this week with an online survey showing about 84 per cent of people would support a daylight saving trial in Queensland.

Several Queensland councils have thrown their support behind the idea, with Brisbane deputy Mayor Adrian Schrinner jumping on board, tweeting: "Time to revisit this important lifestyle issue."

Cr Schrinner also tweeted: "This state gov has ordered 145 reviewed. How about a review into Daylight Saving? One more won't hurt. #ItsTime #daylightsaving".


A referendum on whether Queensland should introduce daylight saving was defeated at a 1992 referendum after a three-year trial.

Ms Trad said she understood there were some recently online polls, but the result was "resoundingly no" at the 1992 referendum.

"I know in 2010 there was an online survey as well, and more than 70,000 Queenslanders participated in that and almost 70 per cent of regional Queenslanders said no," she said.

Listening to the radio the other week. Commentators going on about whether the Cowboys played an hour before or after the rest of the country. Then went on to say "why don't they get with the rest of the country?".

bump

BigOl64 wrote on Oct 1^st, 2016 at 11:51am:



So apart from wanting to be milked earlier, which from my experience is the cows not really having an internal clock but essentially just seeing what the sun is doing, what are the negative effects?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 2:48pm:


Increased skin cancer rates
Children walking or riding home during the hottest part of the day.
Young children not wanting to go to bed because the sun is still out.
Too hot to sleep until that sun has set for half an hour.
Businesses that work fast food having to hold off having staff for an hour because their rush hour has gone from 5 to 7pm to 6 to 8pm. Or they have higher labour percentages whilst work is idle for that hour. And many parents don't like having their 15 to 16 year olds out after 8pm working in fast food.
People are more likely to stay home and cook rather than eat out, because it is too late to go out when the sun has set.
Western Qld having to wait half an hour to an hour further for their sunset. Hot weather out there makes it difficult to sleep in the best of times. 9pm sunsets during December-January are ridiculous.
People having to wait an extra hour to mow their lawns, due to wanting to mow during a late afternoon cool.
Later air conditioning use. With the drop in temperature in sunset hours, air conditioners are switched off after some time.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 2:50pm:



Absolutely true, so the story about our cow, may not be the reason we don't wanr DLS, trow in the fact curtains are ceap as fkk and that isn't looking like the reason either; is it?


But never let a good lie get in the way of the truth before making a sound decision, hey?

It has NEVER been about dairy fkken cows or fkken curtains, 

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 3:57pm:


How many children do you know apply sunscreen before they walk or ride home from school? When I played school cricket on a Friday afternoon, I would use sunscreen. But the ride home from school (which took about 5 minutes) did not require me to think about using sunscreen. My point being that the hats and sunscreen and sunglasses being encouraged by Qld Cancer Council for children to use are not being used by students (other than the enforced "no hat no play" rule for lunchtimes). There is a significant reduction in sunlight intensity after 3pm on a non-DLS region. Whereas the 2pm conditions are quite intense for walking home (or riding home).

what rubbish ... walking home from school isn't going to give kids skin cancer.

John Smith wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 4:31pm:



So how long have you lived in the north, exactly?


You know, because you seem so knowledgeable about what actually happens in the north. 

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 4:31pm:


Mildura.........

John Smith wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 4:31pm:


Thirty minutes in the sun at 2pm is worse than thirty minutes in the sun at 3pm, both walking home times.

I have had several moles and freckles removed from my body due to excessive sun exposure.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 10^th, 2017 at 10:25pm:



Ok, let's say 100% of all children commit to sunscreen every single day of their childhood, extremely unlikely, but there you go. So fkken what?

There is no net benefit to waiting an extra hour for the sun to go down so it is cool enough to go outside, because our summer is fkken unbearable. So we tend to not go outside to sweat like pigs in a fkken sauna, but wait until it cooler.

If any of you had ever lived in the tropics you would know that and understand why not a single place located in the tropics has DLS, if they do it isn't for long

Yeah, I bet it is nice at temperate places like Brisbane. Never hot at any time of year. Plentiful rain. Cool winters. But not cold, dry ones we have here in Rocky. Plenty of public transport for children to use nearly freely. Oh, but north, central, and particularly western Qld having to get up in the dark, and then come home in the heat of the day -- with some bus rides taking an hour. We Qlders -- the real Qlders -- have to put up with toughing out the problems associated with the whims of spoiled SEQlders.

John Smith wrote on Mar 16^th, 2017 at 4:34pm:



It doesn't matter, this state will NEVER get DLS until we become 2 states.

SEQ can be called Northern new south wales for all I care, time to cut the whingers loose.


That place is infested with too many southerners from over the border to be considered part of Queensland anymore. 

John Smith wrote on Mar 16^th, 2017 at 5:34pm:


If you didn't deliberately misrepresent what I said your reply wouldnlt looks so fkken stupid now wouldn't it? 


That comment was to YOUR fkken comment fkktard.


As in 'it doesn't matter' if there is little difference in the temp between 2 and 3 you fkken dolt.

John Smith wrote on Mar 16^th, 2017 at 4:34pm:


I thought it funny that you want to focus on one point about moving the clocks forward an hour being bad for Australians. But then, I realised that you seem to miss the point about this issue, even if it seems minor to you.

For that part, children are not going to school an hour later, and arriving home an hour later. They are going to and from school an hour earlier. The sun is not up to an 8:30am standard when children are walking, riding, taking the bus, or being driven to school. I can tell the difference between an 8am sun and a 9am sun. But, if you have tried standing out in the sun at 2pm for 15 minutes, you could tell the difference between that sunlight intensity and a 3pm sunlight intensity.

The Earth spins 30 degrees in 2 hours from the post meridiem. 45 degrees for 3 hours post meridiem. So, if you think in terms of direct sunlight on children, it is stronger at 2pm than it is at 3pm. But, if I could take your spin on this, I could say that 5pm heat is almost as hot as it is at 3pm heat. And 2pm heat is slightly warmer than 3pm heat. But the issue here is sunlight.

I was not going to bother with your idiocy over something trivial. I consider loss of business to be a major reason why we should not have daylight savings. But if you can't consider sun safety for children as a valid reason not to have daylight savings, than I can't take you seriously.

John Smith wrote on Mar 16^th, 2017 at 9:17pm:



It is your retardation that is the problem here fkktard. 


Remember you are the with e new south wales education & Im doubtful you even passed that.

UnSubRocky wrote on Mar 16^th, 2017 at 10:01pm:



ahh, so now it's not temp, but sunlight. That's right, I forgot it gets darker at 3 pm compared to 2 pm 

it's a ridiculous argument and that you keep trying to cling to it is a poor reflection on you. It is just as hot and bright sitting out in the sun at 3 as it is at 2.

BigOl64 wrote on Mar 17^th, 2017 at 3:59pm:



it's you who is struggling, not I. No one said I didn't understand the post. Where you have the problem is that you were wrong but are to stupid to see it.

John Smith wrote on Mar 17^th, 2017 at 4:01pm:



So you understood the post and complete fkked up the reply due to your excellent nsw education.

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