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The lights go out in Greenie Sth Aust
Sep 29th, 2016 at 10:36am
 
The utter idiocy of the Greenies is on display yet again as Sth Aust Greenie windymills stop turning and plunge the entire state into darkness as dim as the technically obtuse Greenies.

More examples of Greenie sabotage of Australia.


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Total blackout: Bright sparks needed in South Australia
Australian Morning Mail 29/09/2016

Wind farms actually stop operating when it’s too windy.

SA Premier Jay Weatherill has confirmed severe weather destroyed a piece of infrastructure, a transmission tower, during the storm which led to the power-system protecting itself with a shutdown. “Essentially what happened is a massive set of power was removed and when that happens it trips the system,” he said in a press conference on Wednesday evening.

SA proudly leads the way in renewable energy. Massive price surges rather than power surges resulting from their ambitious renewable energy campaign has gained much media attention of late, none of it favourable to the consumer. Perhaps the most prophetic statement made in the wake of this total power failure is this, Wind farms actually stop operating when it’s too windy.
Source: ABC

SA power outage: how did it happen?
South Australia and its 1.677 million residents were left without power on Wednesday evening following severe storms.
So have recent events and a focus on renewable energy created the ‘perfect storm’ for a state-wide blackout?

First, what happened?
SA Premier Jay Weatherill has confirmed severe weather destroyed a piece of infrastructure, a transmission tower, during the storm which led to the power-system protecting itself with a shutdown.
“Essentially what happened is a massive set of power was removed and when that happens it trips the system,” he said in a press conference on Wednesday evening.

Earlier he told ABC radio in Adelaide the weather has caused damage to power infrastructure near Port Augusta.
“It appears there was a weather event that damaged infrastructure in the Port Augusta area. Energy generation assets remain intact. At this stage there does not seem to be any damage to the interconnector with Victoria,” he said.

SA Power Networks’ Paul Roberts said they were investigating whether a network shutdown as a protection was the cause.
“We believe — and this is only early information — that there may have been some issue with the interconnector but the state’s power system is shut down I think possibly as a protection,” he said.

“It means we’re not receiving any electricity supply from generators to be able to supply to generators.”
Surely South Australia has some sort of back-up power?

Well, it does, but it has to reset the system.
“There are a series of back-up generators,” Premier Weatherill said.
“Power is restored but the number of hours this may take is something that we don’t yet know.”

Where does SA’s power come from?
The state is powered by a mix of wind, solar and gas.


In May, Alinta’s Northern power station at Port Augusta closed, which means coal has been cut out of the electricity equation.
At the time, Australian Energy Council chief executive Matthew Warren said the power station’s closure meant the state would have less back-up energy available on days of peak demand.


He also said the state would have a greater reliance on renewable energy and on the interconnector from Victoria for base-load power.

“The reality for South Australians is that we’re in uncharted waters,” he said in May.
“There’s an increased level of risk that we really haven’t seen before anywhere in the world, so it doesn’t mean we’ll have more blackouts, hopefully if we’re smart we can sort out solutions so power supply can be the same as usual, but it’s an increased risk.”

Did that impact Wednesday’s event?
The Premier says no.
“This would have happened with the Port Augusta power station in place,” he said.
“We have sufficient back-up baseload power.
“The interconnector is still up and running.”

So, surely SA can get power from this interconnector?
One of the two interconnectors between SA and Victoria has been down since July and works to fix it won’t be complete for months.
Once it is fixed it will increase capacity by 40 per cent.

Federal Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg spoke to Sky News earlier and said questions would be raised over how the collapse of the entire SA power network could happen.

“There are actually two interconnectors between Victoria and South Australia,” he said.
“One’s called the Murray Link and the other one is called the Heywood Interconnector and the recent spike in prices in the South Australian spot market for electricity was due in part to the upgrade to that interconnector.


“Now clearly, questions will be raised, serious questions will be raised, that need to be answered as to how this extreme weather event could take out the whole of the electricity supply across a major state such as South Australia.”
But Premier Weatherill said the interconnector played no role in the blackout.

What about its wind power?
Wind farms actually stop operating when it’s too windy.


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Reply #1 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 10:37am
 
Some COMMENTS following Previous article (This for politically correct Bammy)

Cliff 29/09/2016, 6:31 am
How many converts did we get to nuclear power for SA’s base load last night? Fuelled by uranium mined in… South Australia?
Take a look at this (believe it or not), ‘greenie’ site: http://www.nuclearaustralia.org.au
These Greenies , unlike 99% of their soul mates, think clearly, make sense, and have come to the only conclusion that makes any sense for someone who wants to reduce carbon emissions from burning fossil fuels AND continuing to live a life bearing even some semblance to life as we know it today.

Riverine 29/09/2016, 7:07 am
The people of SA keep voting this bright spark back into office… No sympathy!

Ivan Ackeroff 29/09/2016, 7:13 am
So our smug little crow-eaters are delighted to chug along on their save-the-world renewables grid, but when things go wrong they’re happy to use power generated by burning filthy coal so long as it’s done 100s of kilometres away in the Latrobe Valley by those troglodyte Victorians.

luk1955 29/09/2016, 7:19 am
The looniest idiots run South Australia.

Lorraine 29/09/2016, 8:56 am
yes SA is a basket case , but Dan the man in Victoria is going down the same path. The left and their ideas have no base power and their electricity grid has no base power .The left loves new ideas of the unworkable kind especially if you can drag tax payer dollars into the mix.Will the greens stand up and take a bow

Robert TG 29/09/2016, 7:27 am
What a basket case South Australia is. They are the Tasmania of Mainland Australia, the home of people who elected Sarah Hanson Young.

Acolyte 29/09/2016, 8:27 am
The British power authorities saw this event coming years ago. Whilst investing in wind power, they secretly installed huge banks of diesel generators for standby when the wind blows too soft or hard
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2362762/The-dirty-secret-Britains-power-madness-Polluting-diesel-generators-built-secret-foreign-companies-kick-theres-wind-turbines–insane-true-eco-scandals.html

Topsy 29/09/2016, 9:03 am
what the hell is the matter with Western governments? Are they scared of the UN and its hangers on that they hide things from their constituents who pay the bills and have to suffer the consequences when something goes wrong?

Pensioner Pete 29/09/2016, 8:41 am
Not to worry, Queensland pollies are doing their level best to emulate South Australia.

Topsy 29/09/2016, 8:50 am
Surely the ideology of deindustrialising western nations has gone far enough. Something should be done immediately about restoring a semblance of commonsense on the subject commonly known as climate change. An immediate response should be the recommissioning of the recently closed down coal fired electricity generating station – Playford, I think it is called.
Do the people in government think of hospitals without power, although they have back-up generators, but how about the people at home with dialysis machines, or fridges full of expensive food? Do they think of them? Who is left to foot the bill for this political mess – ordinary voters like the dialysis users and people with fridges of food which will have to thrown out. Not good enough that our political masters lead us down this path.

Topsy 29/09/2016, 9:06 am
She had better not. It’s my belief that the order of the boot is waiting for her in the wings and that that boot will be helped along by Pauline Hanson and co who will be out and about speaking some plain commonsense.

Bushkid 29/09/2016, 9:26 am
We can only hope and vote, Topsy. Those who would govern us should remember that they’re there to serve us, not the other way around. I like the idea mooted on another site that pollies superannuation/retirement (Hah, when they can walk straight into another cushy “job” as a “consultant” or lobbyist it’s not retirement) funds should be docked for any detriment they impose on the state or nation while in power. For every major stuff-up like this the pollies responsible for the failed policy and/ore failure to provide for or protect the people of the state or nation they should lose a large portion of if not all of their so-called “entitlements”. It’s time the buggers understood that we, the people who pay them and for whom they “work”, are very angry and fed up with them.

Bushkid 29/09/2016, 9:20 am
It’s only when the lights go out and the power goes off that the dreamers and unicorn-fart harnessers realise that the electricity that comes out of the power socket to charge their smart phone (not so smart when it can’t be recharged!) actually has to be generated somehow, somewhere, and has to be transmitted from that generator to their power socket before they can use it to recharge their smart phone to make smart-arse comments on twitter etc.
As to the “extreme” and “cyclonic” weather event alone being the cause of the total state-wide blackout – spare me! If it was only caused by a weather event, then here in Queensland we’d have state-side blackouts every time a cyclone crossed the coast! Last year the eye of a cyclone passed within 50km of our house, and we had one, just one, solitary flicker of the lights! That “weather event” caused a fair amount of structural damage to areas directly in its path, and did cause power outages in those areas, but it did not cause a state-wide blackout. Blackouts were limited to areas directly affected, although they did last a long time due to the amount of damage done.
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Reply #2 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 10:41am
 
coal power stops to when 22 towers are torn down  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #3 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 10:43am
 
Its been

1. Known for years that windmills stop operating when its too windy
2. Known that the blackout was caused by damage to infrastructure of power transmission, not power production
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #4 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 10:45am
 
The lights go out in Juliars head
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Reply #5 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 10:56am
 
Mr Smith did you go out and count the collapsed towers ?

In any case it just goes to show the total disaster that follows when technically obtuse Greenies are followed.

Qld has much wilder weather events than Sth Aust and its power structures stay up OK.

In any case all the Greenie windymills would stop once the wind got too strong to stop the propellers falling off and so there would be NO POWER generated and there would be TOTAL dependence on the link to the Vic brown coal generators.

All in all an example of gross utter incompetence which is just SO typical of anything to do with the technically obtuse Greenies.

How can Sth Aust build the submarines when it has an unreliable nineteenth century power system ?

How many businesses will leave Sth Aust as a result of this ?

This should decide the next state election just like the greyhounds will decide the next NSW state election.

And, if you are lucky, the Greenie windymills only last about 20 years, so who pays to replace dozens of these useless Greenie abortions ?

And what about the countless birds that are chopped up by the windymill blades ? Or is this just more Greenie hypocrisy ?

Do the people in government think of hospitals without power, although they have back-up generators, but how about the people at home with dialysis machines, or fridges full of expensive food? Do they think of them? Who is left to foot the bill for this political mess – ordinary voters like the dialysis users and people with fridges of food which will have to thrown out. Not good enough that our political masters lead us down this path.

We very obviously need Patriotic Pauline and Malcolm R to visit the Sth Aust basket case and shock them with a bit of plain talking.

Some sense from a Qlder
As to the “extreme” and “cyclonic” weather event alone being the cause of the total state-wide blackout – spare me! If it was only caused by a weather event, then here in Queensland we’d have state-side blackouts every time a cyclone crossed the coast!

Last year the eye of a cyclone passed within 50km of our house, and we had one, just one, solitary flicker of the lights! That “weather event” caused a fair amount of structural damage to areas directly in its path, and did cause power outages in those areas, but it did not cause a state-wide blackout.

Blackouts were limited to areas directly affected, although they did last a long time due to the amount of damage done to local supply lines, but it speaks volumes about a distribution system that can withstand genuinely severe “weather events”.

The tragedy for SA is that despite some 53% of the population not voting for liebor, the gerrymander system ensures they still get into government. So don’t blame all SA voters, they’re trying. Mind you, I’d be leaving and letting them stew in their own juice if I’d lived there.
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Reply #6 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 11:20am
 
The greens should be happy with achieving zero emissions in SA.
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Reply #7 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 11:32am
 
The Sth Aust power disaster is a stark warning to other states to avoid toy Greenie windymills which cost the earth and generate very little and kill countless birds and conk out in about 20 years or earlier.



Renewables blamed as 75,000 SA homes still in darkness
The New Daily 5:10pm, Sep 28, 2016 Updated: 44m ago

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A lone policeman directs traffic in the rain near Victoria Square in Adelaide's CBD. Photo: ABC

While up to 75,000 South-Australian homes remain without power, a major political scuffle has erupted over whether renewable energy is to blame for the state’s total energy blackout on Wednesday.

Both Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce and Independent Senator Nick Xenophon controversially pointed the finger at South Australia’s transition to renewables such as wind power for the widespread havoc.

South Australian Premier Jay Weatherill disputed the claim, accusing them of “using the crisis” to air their anti-renewable agenda, while SA residents have described watching the “perfect storm” rip shrubs from the ground.

On Wednesday, destructive winds brought down about 22 transmission towers in the state’s north, tripping the interconnector with Victoria and shutting off power to the entire state.

Thousands still in darkness

About 18,000 State Emergency Service (SES) personnel were on standby for the massive cleanup, with the SES’ Terry Dwyer telling the ABC they had already responded to 1000 calls for help.

The Bureau of Meteorology described the storm as a “once in 50 years” event and warned the weather pattern would move towards Victoria and New South Wales on Thursday.

Premier Weatherill described the incident as a “perfect storm” and called an inquiry into the blackout.

By Thursday morning most of the 900,000 Adelaide metropolitan homes had power restored.

SA Power Networks spokesman Paul Roberts warned restoring power would be a “gradual process”.

More wild weather is on the way, with an intense low-pressure system expected to cross the state on Thursday.

Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster Brett Gage said a severe weather warning remained current for widespread parts of the state, with the west coast of Eyre Peninsula in for a “real buffeting”.

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The roof of a church in Blyth was blown off in the wild storms. Photo: ABC

Earlier in the day, equipment at Port Augusta was damaged during the storm, and Mr Roberts said some equipment had also been damaged around Blyth in the state’s Mid North.

“There was some kind of mini-storm event, or cyclone event, there that’s resulted in damage and that’s affecting customers around the region,” he said.

“We have a substation there that would supply out to several areas.”

Earlier, Telstra’s SA general manager spokesman Mark Bolton said mobile phone users should prepare for a loss of network coverage as towers and exchanges ran out of back-up power.

“We have had a few sites that have been identified as down, yes, so there are a few sites that are failing and probably more to come as the power outage is extended,” Mr Bolton said.

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Traffic lights in Adelaide’s CBD have gone out after a power failure, due to severe thunderstorms. Photo: ABC

Premier Jay Weatherill urged people not to travel on the roads “unless absolutely necessary” during the blackout.

“[People] should continue to listen to [ABC Radio] on a battery-powered radio, or use social media to keep up to date as they possibly can,” he told 891 ABC Adelaide.

He said emergency services and hospitals were operating under their own generation.


“Our energy generation assets remain in tact, and there does not appear at this stage to be any damage to the interconnector with Victoria,” Mr Weatherill said.

He said the blackout had nothing to do with the recent closure of the Port Augusta power station.

“The system has behaved as it’s meant to behave to protect the national energy market,” Mr Weatherill said.

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Some lights have been turned on in Adelaide after the blackout. Photo: ABC

Mr Frydenberg said more than 40 per cent of South Australia’s energy supply comes from renewable energy, but emphasised that was not the cause for the blackout.

“That does raise questions for the stability of the system — not just for supply, because when the wind is not blowing and the sun is not shining, electricity is not being generated — but also for the stability of the system,” he said.

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A map on the SA Power Networks website shows outages across South Australia. Photo: SA Power Networks
South Australian Senator Nick Xenophon described the incident as unprecedented.

“This is a disgrace. How did this happen? How is an entire state blacked out?” Senator Xenophon told the ABC.

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Reply #8 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 11:34am
 
And a few related COMMENTS after the previous article (with deference to political correct Bammy)

Lynette Kime · CIT Canberra
The solar system stills works in cloudy days but not raining or hail or snow days that is why you have back up battery. Or generated.Lyn
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Trav Mills
Hmmm the Federal Politicians have no idea. As Premier Jay Weatherill said - the system is designed to shut down in such catastrophic weather systems in order to protect the NATIONAL electricity grid/market. So next time would the other eastern states like their power grids to be seriously damaged? If the system did not shut down then who deserves to be possibly electrocuted? Children? The Elderly? Families? You? It is a blessing the system shut down and no lives were lost and no injuries reported. Yes it has been a massive inconvenience, but it is far more inconvenient to have to organise a funeral. So Josh & Nick want an enquiry huh? What for? It was a massive storm that would have done the same thing anywhere on the planet that has an electricity grid.
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Renato Alessio · Monash University
“The system has behaved as it’s meant to behave to protect the national energy market,” Mr Weatherill said.

So who, exactly, designed and agreed to implement a system that as a consequence can potentially put hundreds of people at serious risk of injury or death?

And also on occasion do a fairly good emulation of "The Day The Earth Stood Still"?
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Reply #9 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 12:58pm
 
juliar wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 10:36am:

Why do you insist on copying and pasting trashy nonsense from this dubious far-right website that hardly anyone's even heard of? Is this your SEO strategy?
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Reply #10 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:05pm
 
The elephant in the room is extreme weather events caused by polluting fossil fools ! juliar just wants to have more extreme weather events so long as some suit and tie CEO of fossil fool power can get a million dollar bonus Sad
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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #11 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:07pm
 
Hey juliar note the Non base load renewable free sunlight energy is still operating. Did you use yours today Cheesy LOL

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In August 2021, Newcastle Coroner Karen Dilks recorded that Lisa Shaw had died “due to complications of an AstraZeneca COVID vaccination”.
 
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Reply #12 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:15pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:05pm:
The elephant in the room is extreme weather events caused by polluting fossil fools ! juliar just wants to have more extreme weather events so long as some suit and tie CEO of fossil fool power can get a million dollar bonus Sad


Do you have a reference for that?
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Reply #13 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:17pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:07pm:
Hey juliar note the Non base load renewable free sunlight energy is still operating. Did you use yours today Cheesy LOL

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Seeing as the headlights are on, I'd say the solar contribution was minimal, if any.
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juliar wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 10:56am:
Mr Smith did you go out and count the collapsed towers ?



did you?
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