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Reply #15 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:09am

Did I hear there are two interconnectors to Victoria, that both shut down due to the infrastructure damage by wind.

Twenty three towers ripped from the ground?

Sounds like they need more feeds (either gas powered generation plants or interconnects from other states feeding via different routes) with ability to isolate damaged areas while still feeding OK areas.

More redundancy in other words.

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____ Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 33410 Australia Gender:	Re: Xenophon Questions renewables, SA Blackouts Reply #16 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:11am Can someone explain why wind turbines don't have gearing, so they can produce electricity in high wind? http://www.windpowerengineering.com/design/mechanical/gearboxes/gears-gearboxes-... Is it due to the stress?
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Reply #17 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:13am

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:09am:

Did I hear there are two interconnectors to Victoria, that both shut down due to the infrastructure damage by wind.

One was already off line and under repairs. It wasn't expected to be back online for another couple of months. The other ones safety feature shut it down to prevent an overload.

Maybe they need to look at putting in another, perhaps from a state other than Vic., to prevent a repeat.

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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6488 Gender:	Re: Xenophon Questions renewables, SA Blackouts Reply #18 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:21am Crikey, the blackout was at night its a wonder anyone in SA noticed
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Redmond Neck Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 20692 ACT Gender:	Re: Xenophon Questions renewables, SA Blackouts Reply #19 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:33am Looks like an increase in the SA birthrate coming up next year!
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Gordon Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 20221 Gordon Gender:	Re: Xenophon Questions renewables, SA Blackouts Reply #20 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:37am miketrees wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:21am: Crikey, the blackout was at night its a wonder anyone in SA noticed Particularly the ones inside barrels inside an old bank vault.
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bwood1946 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 1598 Gender:	Re: Xenophon Questions renewables, SA Blackouts Reply #21 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:54am Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:33am: Looks like an increase in the SA birthrate coming up next year! How come most GAY!
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Reply #22 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:56am

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 7:59am:

Let them have their way and return us to primitive subsistence economies.
Bob Brown, so I understand, now lives in a cave in the Tasmanian wilderness, from which he occasionally emerges to broadcast his latest thoughts by smoke signal. He is assisted by occasional visits from SHY who dons a ceremonial robe of Tassie Devil skins for his pleasure.

Yes Bob Brown - Tassies own Mr. Garrison in cave mode.

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Reply #23 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 10:02am

John Smith wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:13am:

Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:09am:

Did I hear there are two interconnectors to Victoria, that both shut down due to the infrastructure damage by wind.

One was already off line and under repairs. It wasn't expected to be back online for another couple of months. The other ones safety feature shut it down to prevent an overload.

Maybe they need to look at putting in another, perhaps from a state other than Vic., to prevent a repeat.

Or, this may sound outrageous, maintain their own base load power

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Reply #24 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 10:04am

Belgarion wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 8:57am:

Actually the windmills were not working because it was too windy.....therefore SA had to rely on power from Victoria generated by that nasty coal, and the privately maintained grid failed. Now when there is a total shutdown power needs to be generated from zero. This is not possible with the windmills and so SA is reliant on power being supplied by coal to bring the power levels back to a point where the windmills can start generating again.

So, SAs expensive experiment with windmills has failed its first real test.

too windy for windmills? Good grief Roll Eyes

Sorta defeats the whole purpose.

And being on ridges etc. makes them bloody good lightning attractants/Rods.

Maybe they could be modified to harness lightning as well? Cheesy

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Reply #25 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 10:05am

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 8:38am:

Windmills blew this tower down, did they?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtcekZvUMAAv8Ps.jpg

Crickey there are some nice people around!

I was in SA’s lower north yesterday and experienced the weather and saw lots of lightning strikes.

Think, check before opening mouth and inserting feet!

Look like flimsy towers Roll Eyes

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Xenophon Questions renewables, SA Blackouts Reply #26 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 10:06am BigOl64 wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 10:02am: Or, this may sound outrageous, maintain their own base load power Smiley Smiley are you calling for the govt. to take control and run the old coal generators? that's socialism
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Xenophon Questions renewables, SA Blackouts Reply #27 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 10:07am Gnads wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 10:05am: Look like flimsy towers Roll Eyes I'll say ... no way they should bend like that. Heads need to roll.
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Gnads Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 28021 Gender:	Re: Xenophon Questions renewables, SA Blackouts Reply #28 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 10:07am Redmond Neck wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:33am: Looks like an increase in the SA birthrate coming up next year! Physical impossibility for a big part of the state
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Reply #29 - Sep 29^th, 2016 at 10:10am

cods wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 9:04am:

Belgarion wrote on Sep 29^th, 2016 at 8:57am:

Actually the windmills were not working because it was too windy.....therefore SA had to rely on power from Victoria generated by that nasty coal, and the privately maintained grid failed. Now when there is a total shutdown power needs to be generated from zero. This is not possible with the windmills and so SA is reliant on power being supplied by coal to bring the power levels back to a point where the windmills can start generating again.

So, SAs expensive experiment with windmills has failed its first real test.

the WIND was too STRONG... so how does that work?>..

no one can control the wind......

theres me thinking mankind was much stronger and better than Mother Nature... after all its us thats the cause of GW... so we must be..

of course we are!..

The windmills have a certain operating range. Wind too low, they turn off, wind too high, the blades will rotate too fast and damage the machinery. No ones ever said wind isn't the whole solution, particularly because of this reason.

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