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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Which was the earliest great invention? Sep 25^th, 2016 at 10:23am Was it the ability to make fire or was it the lever? I'd bet on the lever.
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Which was the earliest great invention? Reply #1 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 10:24am Or maybe it was the stone tool to chip flints.
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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Which was the earliest great invention? Reply #2 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 10:26am the wheel
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Which was the earliest great invention? Reply #3 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 10:27am I'd reckon the wheel came much much later.
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: Which was the earliest great invention? Reply #4 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 10:36am Society. Without society there would have been no need for language and the other inventions would not have been invented.
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miketrees Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6488 Gender:	Re: Which was the earliest great invention? Reply #5 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 10:36am I am going with language
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Which was the earliest great invention? Reply #6 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 10:39am Define society. Is it the tribe, which I wouldn't class as an invention, or something bigger such as towns, which of course are a much later feature of the agricultural development. Anyway, I was thinking about inventions in terms of tools.
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Reply #7 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 10:55am

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2016 at 10:39am:

Define society. Is it the tribe, which I wouldn't class as an invention, or something bigger such as towns, which of course are a much later feature of the agricultural development.

Anyway, I was thinking about inventions in terms of tools.

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Reply #8 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 11:09am

The weapon - in two ways.

1. It fostered cooperation within the fledgling societal structures by it's ability to protect home and hearth. It probably also helped establish the first 'laws' within such societies when murder was committed by its use.

2. It changed primitive society from mere gatherers and scavengers to hunter-gatherers.

Thoughts?

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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10305 Gender:	Re: Which was the earliest great invention? Reply #9 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 11:17am A sand stone to trim finger/toe nails
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Reply #10 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 11:29am

society isn't an 'invention' .... it forms naturally where ever sufficient food supplies exist. It often started of as extended family, and if there are sufficient resources to sustain it, it will grow into a village, a town a city.

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 25^th, 2016 at 10:27am:

I'd reckon the wheel came much much later.

OK, then i'd have to go with fire.

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Reply #11 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 11:30am

Lionel Edriess wrote on Sep 25^th, 2016 at 11:09am:

The weapon - in two ways.

1. It fostered cooperation within the fledgling societal structures by it's ability to protect home and hearth. It probably also helped establish the first 'laws' within such societies when murder was committed by its use.

2. It changed primitive society from mere gatherers and scavengers to hunter-gatherers.

Thoughts?

Good thought. What was the first weapon? A rock? A spear?
Funny (not ha ha) that it is probably the most prolific line of invention in human history.

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John Smith Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 72209 Gender:	Re: Which was the earliest great invention? Reply #12 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 11:32am Lionel Edriess wrote on Sep 25^th, 2016 at 11:09am: The weapon - in two ways. what weapon? ... early on rocks and sticks were used as weapons often because they were handy. No one invented them. They were later developed into spears, arrows etc with necessity.
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Bias_2012 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10305 Gender:	Re: Which was the earliest great invention? Reply #13 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 11:34am John Smith wrote on Sep 25^th, 2016 at 11:29am: OK, then i'd have to go with fire God had the patent on fire You mean the tools to make fire
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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Which was the earliest great invention? Reply #14 - Sep 25^th, 2016 at 11:46am No, I'd think the understanding of how to make fire on demand and the tools to do it constitute invention.
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