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Reply #15 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:08am
 
Mother was in the house, she had motive and and the means.


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Reply #16 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:09am
 
Marla wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 8:11am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 8:08am:
Marla, you are willing to say that about a suspect who has not confessed, has not been witnessed committing ANY part of the crime and without there being conclusive forensic evidence  connecting her with the crime. Patsy also didn't have any history of violence to her children or even a motive for that matter. Have you studied law to any extent?



No previous history of violence, you say? Well, that changes everything.

There's a lot of first time crimes people commit without any prior history. So that "clean as a whistle' history of a person/s should not rule out anything, because otherwise, people can use that as their defense on any crime.
The whole story seems riddled with oddities, and tonight, we are given more clues to the whole riddle. It's going to be twister than a bucket of slimed eels.
I had initially thought the 10 yr old did something, but apparently, the little girl had been sexually assaulted?

Why did the oarents lie about their son still being in bed asleep when the operator heard them all talking to him, obviously up and about. Why would they lie about that? Was it a big deal? If there was nothing to hide, you would not think of lying about such a trivial thing if a young kid is awake or not, what was the problem or reason to lie about that?....so straight out lying, means something to hide already. It sounds like defence mode.
If someone takes your child, you don't act with defiance and unwillingness to help the experts, you truly want to be very helpful and willing to oblige as much as possible! Why did the father disappear for an hour and half whilst the cops etc was there? Why did he move the child's body to the lounge room as that is meddling with evidence, on purpose.
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Reply #17 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:10am
 
Just read the news .com.au article http://www.news.com.au/world/explosive-new-evidence-smashes-jonbenet-ramsey-murd...

And I have to say I'm still not convinced. The 911 operator said it sounded like something rehearsed? How would she know?
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Reply #18 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:14am
 
Sophia wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:09am:
If someone takes your child, you don't act with defiance and unwillingness to help the experts, you truly want to be very helpful and willing to oblige as much as possible! Why did the father disappear for an hour and half whilst the cops etc was there? Why did he move the child's body to the lounge room as that is meddling with evidence, on purpose.



I'd argue that it depends on what your impression of the experts to be. If you thought the experts were either 1) incompetent or 2) had simply decided you had done it and werent bothered about looking anywhere else, it would be difficult to bring yourself to the conclusion of helping them.
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Reply #19 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:17am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:14am:
I'd argue that it depends on what your impression of the experts to be. If you thought the experts were either 1) incompetent...



We are talking about the Boulder Police Department here. While attending school at the University of Colorado I was stopped by a Boulder cop on a bike for (alleged) public drunkenness. He let me go moments later when he realized he had forgotten his citation book.
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Reply #20 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:19am
 
Marla wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:17am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:14am:
I'd argue that it depends on what your impression of the experts to be. If you thought the experts were either 1) incompetent...



We are talking about the Boulder Police Department here. While attending school at the University of Colorado I was stopped by a Boulder cop on a bike for (alleged) public drunkenness. He let me go moments later when he realized he had forgotten his citation book.



So 1 decent cop.
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Reply #21 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:20am
 
No, a incompetent one.

The campus police were more reliable than the Boulder Police Department - and this was years after JonBenet's death.
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Reply #22 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:23am
 
Marla wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:20am:
No, a incompetent one.

The campus police were more reliable than the Boulder Police Department - and this was years after JonBenet's death.



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Reply #23 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:33am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:23am:
SO incompetent.



Try to understand the city of Boulder itself:
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The place is a insulated, pastoral college town full of the smugest, richest assholes one ever has the misfortune to come across. I could not wait to get the hell out of there. Last time I was in Boulder was 2009 and I have no plans to ever return there any time soon.

The police there deal mainly with rich kid college issues (whatever those are) and petty crimes. A brutal murder of a six year-old beauty pageant queen was something they never thought they would ever have to deal with. As a result, they contaminated evidence, poorly followed procedure on how to how a serious crime such as this and hoped that this crime would "all work itself out."

This whole case was a disaster from the start.

So...IT WAS THE MOTHER.

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Reply #24 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:35am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:14am:
Sophia wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:09am:
If someone takes your child, you don't act with defiance and unwillingness to help the experts, you truly want to be very helpful and willing to oblige as much as possible! Why did the father disappear for an hour and half whilst the cops etc was there? Why did he move the child's body to the lounge room as that is meddling with evidence, on purpose.



I'd argue that it depends on what your impression of the experts to be. If you thought the experts were either 1) incompetent or 2) had simply decided you had done it and werent bothered about looking anywhere else, it would be difficult to bring yourself to the conclusion of helping them.


Now there's a point to ponder, the father, being a very wealthy successful business man, would not be dumb, he may already know this? even though no crime had ever been committed in that family before?

So how does one know of the "incompetency of experts" when they have never been through the experience of a crime before?

Such contempt for the police, is mystifying, and their refusal to be interviewed....individually.....they had way too much time, these 2 parents, to have their act more perfectly in place, and instead of going to the police, they go to a television station instead.

Of course, image is everything for this family, got to look perfect in every way.



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Reply #25 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:37am
 
Sophia wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:35am:
[quote author=Pastafarian link=1474281935/18#18 date=1474330446][quote author=Lols link=1474281935/16#16 date=1474330172]
So how does one know of the "incompetency of experts" when they have never been through the experience of a crime before?







Easy, gossip gets around.
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Reply #26 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:37am
 
Sophia wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:09am:
Marla wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 8:11am:
Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 8:08am:
Marla, you are willing to say that about a suspect who has not confessed, has not been witnessed committing ANY part of the crime and without there being conclusive forensic evidence  connecting her with the crime. Patsy also didn't have any history of violence to her children or even a motive for that matter. Have you studied law to any extent?



No previous history of violence, you say? Well, that changes everything.

There's a lot of first time crimes people commit without any prior history. So that "clean as a whistle' history of a person/s should not rule out anything, because otherwise, people can use that as their defense on any crime.
The whole story seems riddled with oddities, and tonight, we are given more clues to the whole riddle. It's going to be twister than a bucket of slimed eels.
I had initially thought the 10 yr old did something, but apparently, the little girl had been sexually assaulted?

Why did the oarents lie about their son still being in bed asleep when the operator heard them all talking to him, obviously up and about. Why would they lie about that? Was it a big deal? If there was nothing to hide, you would not think of lying about such a trivial thing if a young kid is awake or not, what was the problem or reason to lie about that?....so straight out lying, means something to hide already. It sounds like defence mode.
If someone takes your child, you don't act with defiance and unwillingness to help the experts, you truly want to be very helpful and willing to oblige as much as possible! Why did the father disappear for an hour and half whilst the cops etc was there? Why did he move the child's body to the lounge room as that is meddling with evidence, on purpose.

A history of child abuse would obviously  be relevant in this case but i agree it's  absence is not a smoking gun. That aside, everything else you've  posted is just amateur sleuthing.
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Reply #27 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:38am
 
Sophia wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:35am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:14am:
Sophia wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:09am:
If someone takes your child, you don't act with defiance and unwillingness to help the experts, you truly want to be very helpful and willing to oblige as much as possible! Why did the father disappear for an hour and half whilst the cops etc was there? Why did he move the child's body to the lounge room as that is meddling with evidence, on purpose.



I'd argue that it depends on what your impression of the experts to be. If you thought the experts were either 1) incompetent or 2) had simply decided you had done it and werent bothered about looking anywhere else, it would be difficult to bring yourself to the conclusion of helping them.


Now there's a point to ponder, the father, being a very wealthy successful business man, would not be dumb, he may already know this? even though no crime had ever been committed in that family before?

So how does one know of the "incompetency of experts" when they have never been through the experience of a crime before?

Such contempt for the police, is mystifying, and their refusal to be interviewed....individually.....they had way too much time, these 2 parents, to have their act more perfectly in place, and instead of going to the police, they go to a television station instead.

Of course, image is everything for this family, got to look perfect in every way.





Also the other thing to be considered here is that he is a successful businessman so he would have had some dealing in legal circles before and gone to a default position. When in doubt, call your lawyer.
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Reply #28 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:39am
 
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Everything about these two reeks of guilt. Shame she never did stand trial for her crime.
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Reply #29 - Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:39am
 
Marla wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:33am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 20th, 2016 at 10:23am:
SO incompetent.



Try to understand the city of Boulder itself:
https://theieca.org/sites/default/files/cuboulder.jpg

The place is a insulated, pastoral college town full of the smugest, richest assholes one ever has the misfortune to come across. I could not wait to get the hell out of there. Last time I was in Boulder was 2009 and I have no plans to ever return there any time soon.

The police there deal mainly with rich kid college issues (whatever those are) and petty crimes. A brutal murder of a six year-old beauty pageant queen was something they never thought they would ever have to deal with. As a result, they contaminated evidence, poorly followed procedure on how to how a serious crime such as this and hoped that this crime would "all work itself out."

This whole case was a disaster from the start.

So...IT WAS THE MOTHER.



Oh there is the answer of how the father felt he could treat the police with disdain and think they were incompetent.
The true markings of a successful rich man with arrogance and no patience...thinks of the law as keystone cops in that secluded area they seem to know so well, and all the occupants therein....

I can't see how the mother did it, as the child was sexually assaulted?
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