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Question: Should same-sex marriage be legal in Australia
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YES    
  29 (39.2%)
NO    
  45 (60.8%)




Total votes: 74
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Reply #555 - Sep 30th, 2016 at 11:21am
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 8:08am:
Frank wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 8:22pm:
You seem to be very eager to confuse legal with real. Even if the law says they are married, nobody else will think they are married, only that they are 'married'.



I think it is you who is confused, the whole discussion is about LEGAL RECOGNITION, it's not about wether or not they can screw each other. After all, most of them that decide they want to marry probably don't give a crap what you or anyone else thinks.  I know I didn't stop to consider how you would feel when I got married, just as I doubt you stopped to think about how I would feel when you married (assuming you are married).


OK
The crux of the matter is the LEGALITY of being a couple.

I understand this and wholeheartedly agree that they must be accepted as a couple and that they must have equal rights.
Anything other than this is not acceptable.

What I disagree with is the term Marriage.
Marriage is a joining of a man and a woman in the legal and religious rights of holy matrimony.

No Bible, Koran, Tora or any other religious teaching advocated the joining of a man and a man or a woman a and woman.
In fact they generally oppose it.

Therefore, why could not the gays accept another term for the joining of two same sex couples?
Why does it have to be marriage?
Are they simply trying to rub religions nose in it?
Why would they want to use a term opposed to what they are?
It makes no sense.

Call it Birriage or Gayarriage or some such, just leave the word Marriage alone.
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Reply #556 - Sep 30th, 2016 at 1:20pm
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 11:21am:
What I disagree with is the term Marriage.
Marriage is a joining of a man and a woman in the legal and religious rights of holy matrimony.



if that's what it means to you, that's fine, no one is taking that away from you, you can continue to believe that. It's not what it means to everyone (I should add that I used to feel the same way, and was originally opposed to gay marriage for similar reasons, but have changed my mind over the years).
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
Reply #557 - Sep 30th, 2016 at 1:21pm
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 11:21am:
No Bible, Koran, Tora or any other religious teaching advocated the joining of a man and a man or a woman a and woman.
In fact they generally oppose it.



marriage was around before any of those religions, and will continue to be around after they are forgotten. They simply hijacked marriage to be a religious event because it gave them another way to control the peasants.
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Reply #558 - Sep 30th, 2016 at 1:22pm
 
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Reply #559 - Sep 30th, 2016 at 5:06pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 11:21am:
No Bible, Koran, Tora or any other religious teaching advocated the joining of a man and a man or a woman a and woman.
In fact they generally oppose it.



marriage was around before any of those religions, and will continue to be around after they are forgotten. They simply hijacked marriage to be a religious event because it gave them another way to control the peasants.



Then why not just call it something else for gay couples?
If it means so little?


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Reply #560 - Sep 30th, 2016 at 5:45pm
 
{Sigh} Marriage Equality, geddit?
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Reply #561 - Sep 30th, 2016 at 5:56pm
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 5:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 1:21pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 11:21am:
No Bible, Koran, Tora or any other religious teaching advocated the joining of a man and a man or a woman a and woman.
In fact they generally oppose it.



marriage was around before any of those religions, and will continue to be around after they are forgotten. They simply hijacked marriage to be a religious event because it gave them another way to control the peasants.



Then why not just call it something else for gay couples?
If it means so little?


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I dont think there is anything stopping you call it what you like.......gays are like aborigines to me.. as soon as they get one thing they find something else to whinge about...

anyone would think a piece of paper makes the slightest difference to ....well........ being happy and making a relationship work.....if you look at Brad and Angie you know full well it can be the death knell...

they will then have to go through all the agro of a divorce..which can be quite unpleasant from what we read.......lets hope we get it out of the way before much longer....its basically stopping the country from moving on.. Angry Angry
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Reply #562 - Sep 30th, 2016 at 6:08pm
 
Not that there's anything ......

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Reply #563 - Oct 1st, 2016 at 2:45am
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 5:45pm:
{Sigh} Marriage Equality, geddit?


Yes I get it.
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Reply #564 - Oct 1st, 2016 at 9:16am
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 5:06pm:
Then why not just call it something else for gay couples?
If it means so little?


no one said it meant 'so little' ... just that it meant different things to what it means to you.
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Reply #565 - Oct 1st, 2016 at 11:18am
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 9:16am:
Valkie wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 5:06pm:
Then why not just call it something else for gay couples?
If it means so little?


no one said it meant 'so little' ... just that it meant different things to what it means to you.


So its better to upset and alinate the MAJORITY of the population so a MINORITY feels a little bit more justified?

Makes sense.?............not
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Reply #566 - Oct 1st, 2016 at 11:41am
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 11:18am:
John Smith wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 9:16am:
Valkie wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 5:06pm:
Then why not just call it something else for gay couples?
If it means so little?


no one said it meant 'so little' ... just that it meant different things to what it means to you.


So its better to upset and alinate the MAJORITY of the population so a MINORITY feels a little bit more justified?

Makes sense.?............not



Actually, I think you'll find the majority won't be upset. All the polls show most people are in favour of allowing same sex marriage.  Don't assume all hetro married people will be upset over it.
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Reply #567 - Oct 1st, 2016 at 1:33pm
 
John Smith wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 11:41am:
Valkie wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 11:18am:
John Smith wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 9:16am:
Valkie wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 5:06pm:
Then why not just call it something else for gay couples?
If it means so little?


no one said it meant 'so little' ... just that it meant different things to what it means to you.


So its better to upset and alinate the MAJORITY of the population so a MINORITY feels a little bit more justified?

Makes sense.?............not



Actually, I think you'll find the majority won't be upset. All the polls show most people are in favour of allowing same sex marriage.  Don't assume all hetro married people will be upset over it.



If that's the case why are the gays so worried about the plebiscite?

Ill tell you why, because the MAJORITY are opposed to it.

Keep it behind closed doors where it belongs
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Reply #568 - Oct 1st, 2016 at 2:20pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 30th, 2016 at 5:45pm:
{Sigh} Marriage Equality, geddit?

No I don't geddit...
Men can marry women and women marry men...  is that what you mean by equality? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #569 - Oct 1st, 2016 at 4:46pm
 
Valkie wrote on Oct 1st, 2016 at 1:33pm:
If that's the case why are the gays so worried about the plebiscite?



because it's not binding.  Cheesy Cheesy

Why waste $160 m for an opinion poll that several ministers have already said they will ignore the result off  anyway? If they don't care about the result of the pleb, it's a waste of money and we should scrap it and give the ministers a conscience vote. You realise the pleb costs more than what it costs to pay all our unemployed their benefits for a year? It's madness.
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