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Question: Should same-sex marriage be legal in Australia
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YES    
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NO    
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Total votes: 74
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Reply #540 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:51pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 10:41am:
Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 10:40am:
So why wouldn't a legalized civil union suffice?



why should they be treated differently?


It's obvious why.


no it's not. You're allowed to marry who you like, why can't they?
Because marriage is a traditional ceremony between a man and a woman. They don't qualify.
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
Reply #541 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:58pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:51pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:15pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 10:41am:
Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 10:40am:
So why wouldn't a legalized civil union suffice?



why should they be treated differently?


It's obvious why.


no it's not. You're allowed to marry who you like, why can't they?
Because marriage is a traditional ceremony between a man and a woman. They don't qualify.


you are quite welcome to keep your tradition if you so wish, but we aren't talking about tradition, we're talking about the law. The same law that traditionally did not discriminate between sexes, up Howard decided to get involved (with no pleb).
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
Reply #542 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:50pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:40pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 1:24pm:
and there are far more pressing/important issues confronting this country & it's citizens than gay rights.



agree, so why don't you let gays do what they like to each other so we can all move onto more important things.


They can already "do what they like to each other". Roll Eyes

Why is it they feel the need to pretend to a concept that's not about them being able to live/cohabit/have a relationship together?

It's the same as feminists wanting to break down & gain entry to any "men "only" bastions ....

because they "want" to

then openly have no problem with the formation/opening of women only organisations
& companies advertising positions vacant for women only.
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Reply #543 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:50pm
 
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
Reply #544 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:51pm
 
Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
They can already "do what they like to each other"



except get married
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Reply #545 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 6:55pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
They can already "do what they like to each other"



except get married


That's because marriage is a union of a man and a woman.
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
Reply #546 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 7:05pm
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 6:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
They can already "do what they like to each other"



except get married


That's because marriage is a union of a man and a woman.


It is  now.  It will not be soon.
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Reply #547 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 7:42pm
 
Aussie wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 7:05pm:
Valkie wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 6:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
They can already "do what they like to each other"



except get married


That's because marriage is a union of a man and a woman.


It is  now.  It will not be soon.


No, it will always be, but there will be an abomination of sorts termed marriage.
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Reply #548 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 8:13pm
 
There are a many unmstated assumptions in the Marriage Act because age-old tradition means that these assumptions are understood by all. Therefore they are not spelled out.

But now there is no shared assumption and everything is up for definitional challenge. Shared, millennial assumptions are swept aside by legalistic demands for definitions. Marriage has been understood, without needing to spell it out, as something a man and a woman enter into. That i now challenged because it has been merely a shared assumption for thousands of years.

The Marriage Act also assumes that marriage is between to people, not more, between two humans, not any other combination, whether two or more.

There is abosolutely nothing in the Marriage Act that says that one of the parties has to be a sentient being, or a human being. 
But is the unspoken assumption of marriage being between a man and a woman needs codifying, when will we codify all the other unspoken assumptions??


A YOUNG Toowoomba man yesterday tied the knot with his best friend - a five-year-old labrador

Who can deny this man's right to marry FOUR labradors???  Only far-right fasciscts, obviously.





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Reply #549 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 8:15pm
 
Frank wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 8:13pm:
There are a many unmstated assumptions in the Marriage Act because age-old tradition means that these assumptions are understood by all. Therefore they are not spelled out.

But now there is no shared assumption and everything is up for definitional challenge. Shared, millennial assumptions are swept aside by legalistic demands for definitions. Marriage has been understood, without needing to spell it out, as something a man and a woman enter into. That i now challenged because it has been merely a shared assumption for thousands of years.

The Marriage Act also assumes that marriage is between to people, not more, between two humans, not any other combination, whether two or more.

There is abosolutely nothing in the Marriage Act that says that one of the parties has to be a sentient being, or a human being. 
But is the unspoken assumption of marriage being between a man and a woman needs codifying, when will we codify all the other unspoken assumptions??


A YOUNG Toowoomba man yesterday tied the knot with his best friend - a five-year-old labrador

Who can deny this man's right to marry FOUR labradors???  Only far-right fasciscts, obviously.







Did the Labrador consent?
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Re: Same Sex Marriage
Reply #550 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 8:22pm
 
John Smith wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
They can already "do what they like to each other"



except get married



Grin Grin Grin

You seem to be very eager to confuse legal with real. Even if the law says they are married, nobody else will think they are married, only that they are 'married'.

Same sex marriage is a farce, a charade. It's a prank. It's completely not serious.

In a marriage there is a wife and a husband. When two blokes get 'married', which one is the wife? Do they rotate? Can you imagine a woman introducing another woman to you as her 'husband'?

It's a gigantic farce.

If gay marriage is legislated the Muslims will be clamouring for the legislation for 4 wives the next morning. But you could not possible allow a man 4 wives without allowing a woman 4 husbands or 4 lesbian wives.  So immediately, trying to accommodate poor littlwe Muslim minorities, we will be legislating for a homosexual bloke taking four other homosexual blokes as his 'wives'.

This is progressive idiocy in action. And it will happen because there is imply nothing that can stop progressive idiots except stern and ongoing rebuke and defiant and sustained bollocking.

You guys are all mad.




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Reply #551 - Sep 29th, 2016 at 9:23pm
 
Frank I think you should have gotten a good sleepFrank wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 8:22pm:
You seem to be very eager to confuse legal with real. Even if the law says they are married, nobody else will think they are married, only that they are 'married'. Same sex marriage is a farce, a charade. It's a prank. It's completely not serious.

And that was the best of that post. Even though it is total rubbish.
You are verging on idiocy, and your imagination is running wild.
The topic is about same sex marriage, nothing else, so give it a rest and go take a Bex. Grin
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Reply #552 - Sep 30th, 2016 at 3:14am
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 6:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
They can already "do what they like to each other"



Marriage and Gay Marriage could go together like a horse and carriage.... Separate But Equal....

Downe at Ye Olde Grosse Oyster Eater/Muff Diving Competition Trophy Handout...................

"Hi - I'm Clarence, and I'm gay married so don't even consider it, Big Boy!  Oooh - you're such a pistol....."

"Yeah... Clarrie - but I don't mess with married sheilas...."

"I'm not a sheila, you big brute...... oooh - I hate you..."


except get married


That's because marriage is a union of a man and a woman.

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Reply #553 - Sep 30th, 2016 at 3:15am
 
Valkie wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 6:55pm:
John Smith wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:51pm:
Gnads wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 4:50pm:
They can already "do what they like to each other"





except get married


That's because marriage is a union of a man and a woman.


Marriage and Gay Marriage could go together like a horse and carriage.... Separate But Equal....

Downe at Ye Olde Grosse Oyster Eater/Muff Diving Competition Trophy Handout...................

"Hi - I'm Clarence, and I'm gay married so don't even consider it, Big Boy!  Oooh - you're such a pistol....."

"Yeah... Clarrie - but I don't mess with married sheilas...."

"I'm not a sheila, you big brute...... oooh - I hate you..."

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Reply #554 - Sep 30th, 2016 at 8:08am
 
Frank wrote on Sep 29th, 2016 at 8:22pm:
You seem to be very eager to confuse legal with real. Even if the law says they are married, nobody else will think they are married, only that they are 'married'.



I think it is you who is confused, the whole discussion is about LEGAL RECOGNITION, it's not about wether or not they can screw each other. After all, most of them that decide they want to marry probably don't give a crap what you or anyone else thinks.  I know I didn't stop to consider how you would feel when I got married, just as I doubt you stopped to think about how I would feel when you married (assuming you are married).
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