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Aug 26^th, 2016 at 9:16pm

Friends, that realtor Mr Baden Clay is gittin his High Court ruling and such early. Many months early.

Looks like the legal eagles have decided that he is going down.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BneStrong/comments/4zi36f/baden_clay_to_be_given_early_...

https://www.reddit.com/r/auslaw/search?q=baden+clay&sort=new&restrict_sr=on

This is saying they predict all 5 will allow the appeal and murder reinstated

Because he was telling stories and then saying on his appeal his stories ain't true - and the judges and such said to his fancy lawyers "You can't have it both ways and now say that Mr Baden Clay relies on the absence of something, that Mr Baden Clay hisself says happened"

Apparently this is what they is saying the High Court is thinking.

Fancier folks still are comparing Mr Baden Clay to a movie dad. I gots to say, I can't fault it. Movie dad faked his death, and left momma and child alive, which is smarter than our very own Mr Baden Clay. Can y'all believe it?

https://www.reddit.com/r/BneStrong/comments/4z0j5w/proof_that_australias_real_es...

Y'all know what I gots to say?

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Australia's Favorite Realtor Reply #1 - Aug 27^th, 2016 at 12:42pm I have to admit B.J.. well alright billy boy...that is funny....coming from O.J. classic....... next Wed all will be revealed fingers crossed its Justice for Allison....she may well be dead as far as some folks think.. but I am sure she is very close to a lot of people just the same....
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Reply #2 - Aug 27^th, 2016 at 10:48pm

cods wrote on Aug 27^th, 2016 at 12:42pm:

I have to admit B.J.. well alright billy boy...that is funny....coming from O.J. classic.......

next Wed all will be revealed fingers crossed its Justice for Allison....she may well be dead as far as some folks think.. but I am sure she is very close to a lot of people just the same....

Do you think she is alive, cods?

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Reply #3 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 9:31am

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2016 at 10:48pm:

cods wrote on Aug 27^th, 2016 at 12:42pm:

I have to admit B.J.. well alright billy boy...that is funny....coming from O.J. classic.......

next Wed all will be revealed fingers crossed its Justice for Allison....she may well be dead as far as some folks think.. but I am sure she is very close to a lot of people just the same....

Do you think she is alive, cods?

in my heart my husband is alive I never forget him and I can see his face from time to time...you have no idea do you?.

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Reply #4 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 4:56pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2016 at 10:48pm:

cods wrote on Aug 27^th, 2016 at 12:42pm:

I have to admit B.J.. well alright billy boy...that is funny....coming from O.J. classic.......

next Wed all will be revealed fingers crossed its Justice for Allison.... she may well be dead as far as some folks think .. but I am sure she is very close to a lot of people just the same....

Do you think she is alive, cods?

Try not to be so obtuse ... it's not a good look.

Do you even understand what JUSTICE means to people who have lost someone who has been MURDERED? Obviously not.

I suspect that you would think differently if it was a female (accidentally) murdering a bloke. Then you would most likely want JUSTICE for the bloke, right?

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Reply #5 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 5:06pm

Neferti wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 4:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 27^th, 2016 at 10:48pm:

cods wrote on Aug 27^th, 2016 at 12:42pm:

I have to admit B.J.. well alright billy boy...that is funny....coming from O.J. classic.......

next Wed all will be revealed fingers crossed its Justice for Allison.... she may well be dead as far as some folks think .. but I am sure she is very close to a lot of people just the same....

Do you think she is alive, cods?

Try not to be so obtuse ... it's not a good look.

Do you even understand what JUSTICE means to people who have lost someone who has been MURDERED? Obviously not.

I suspect that you would think differently if it was a female (accidentally) murdering a bloke. Then you would most likely want JUSTICE for the bloke, right?

I long ago made up my mind this is a person without a skerrick of empathy....the things he has said about the Morcombes is enough for me....he hasnt lost anyone that close, one he can feel and even smell but not see YET....just because you are not crying 24/7 doesnt mean there is no pain...

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Reply #6 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 5:25pm

If the expression used was 'see Justice done,' I'd agree, no problem. But, the schmedia just love to tug the hearts by using the expression 'Justice for *here insert name of the deceased*' and if the deceased was a child it would be 'Justice for little *here insert name of the deceased.*'

They are beyond receiving Justice. They are dead. Fact, yeas?

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Reply #7 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 6:03pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 5:25pm:

If the expression used was 'see Justice done,' I'd agree, no problem. But, the schmedia just love to tug the hearts by using the expression 'Justice for *here insert name of the deceased*' and if the deceased was a child it would be 'Justice for little *here insert name of the deceased.*'

They are beyond receiving Justice. They are dead. Fact, yeas?

You should know better than most Australia's legal system has nothing at all to do with justice, which is why very few that have sought justice after a horrendous crime find it in the law.

It is about the law and its application by a few narrow minds.

If you want justice you need to find it for yourself if you are quick enough, but the law will take a dim view on you for doing so.

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Reply #8 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 6:23pm

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You should know better than most Australia's legal system has nothing at all to do with justice, which is why very few that have sought justice after a horrendous crime find it in the law.

I agree. It is about the Law. I've told this tale many times but it demonstrates your point.

Not going into the details as they are not as relevant as the comment. Queensland Magistrate Ron Tully (can't recall whether there should be an 'e' in there) once bellowed in anger at me from the Bench, "I'm not interested in the Law Mr Aussie, I am interested in Justice.......my Justice." Do you see the danger?

He desperately wanted to convict the client, but he knew the Law had him cornered. He had no choice but to acquit.

You are also right concerning murder victims. There is no Justice for them. But, the Law certainly can and does compensate with money (the only thing available) those who survive criminal acts.

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It is about the law and its application by a few narrow minds.

Yeas, but I'm not buying the 'narrow minds' bit.

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If you want justice you need to find it for yourself if you are quick enough, but the law will take a dim view on you for doing so.

If what you do is legal, the Law will protect you. It will not if you act outside the Law. Simple.

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Reply #9 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 6:31pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 5:25pm:

If the expression used was 'see Justice done,' I'd agree, no problem. But, the schmedia just love to tug the hearts by using the expression 'Justice for *here insert name of the deceased*' and if the deceased was a child it would be 'Justice for little *here insert name of the deceased.*'

They are beyond receiving Justice. They are dead. Fact, yeas?

You are clutching straws. How many people do you know who have had a relative murdered?

I have nobody that has died like that, thankfully, but I do view the CI Channel on Foxtel and I can tell you that people who have been interviewed on those programs want JUSTICE for their dead rellie. They also want the perp to either be put away for LIFE (i.e. until they die) or sent to the Death Chamber.

I don't believe in capital punishment but I can understand why a family who has lost a beloved via murder can feel that way.

You really do need to develop some EMPATHY and stop thinking the World revolves around you.

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Reply #10 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 6:32pm

BigOl64 wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 6:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 5:25pm:

If the expression used was 'see Justice done,' I'd agree, no problem. But, the schmedia just love to tug the hearts by using the expression 'Justice for *here insert name of the deceased*' and if the deceased was a child it would be 'Justice for little *here insert name of the deceased.*'

They are beyond receiving Justice. They are dead. Fact, yeas?

You should know better than most Australia's legal system has nothing at all to do with justice, which is why very few that have sought justice after a horrendous crime find it in the law.

It is about the law and its application by a few narrow minds.

If you want justice you need to find it for yourself if you are quick enough, but the law will take a dim view on you for doing so.

there is no such thing as justice....all you can hope for is punishment..which in our country is very limited..in fact some live better in jail than they ever did in the real world...but they cant hurt anyone else at least for a while...

but the victims family have no choice but to find a way to live with their pain... and some never do.

an eye for an eye....

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cods Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 88048	Re: Australia's Favorite Realtor Reply #11 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 6:36pm Aussie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 6:23pm: If what you do is legal, the Law will protect you. It will not if you act outside the Law. Simple REALLY??? who would have thought it. if its legal why would the law step in.. makes no sense at all..
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Reply #12 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 7:00pm

cods wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 6:23pm:

If what you do is legal, the Law will protect you. It will not if you act outside the Law. Simple

REALLY??? who would have thought it.

if its legal why would the law step in.. Roll Eyes

makes no sense at all..

The Law does step in. You kill someone in self defence, you will be charged and taken to the criminal justice system (unless you are a copper) and there, the Law will protect you if your actions in self defence were within the Law.

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Reply #13 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 7:21pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 6:23pm:

If what you do is legal, the Law will protect you. It will not if you act outside the Law. Simple

REALLY??? who would have thought it.

if its legal why would the law step in.. Roll Eyes

makes no sense at all..

The Law does step in. You kill someone in self defence, you will be charged and taken to the criminal justice system (unless you are a copper) and there, the Law will protect you if your actions in self defence were within the Law.

its been proven self defence is no excuse...[wife kills husband after years of abuse]

and in this case..

the law wants to know what was in someones MIND...

what intentions there were..

who can possibly prove that???... its no more no less a suggestion...

what that law is saying is unless the murderer has a history of bashing or making this persons life hell.. he can kill and claim he didnt INTEND doing it.....because no one can prove he did intend doing it..

what the... he can burn the body dump it even disappear it....that isnt taken into consideration... its what went on in his MIND...at the moment he shut down a life....

dont forget we have a guy who denies even touching the body............. he was asleep... Roll Eyes

yet none of that is taken into consideration....I dont see where JUSTICE comes into this I really dont..

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 37678 Gender:	Re: Australia's Favorite Realtor Reply #14 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 7:32pm Cods, we have done that to 'death' many times on the other very long Thread. You are 100% wrong about this: Quote: its been proven self defence is no excuse...[wife kills husband after years of abuse.
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