Perhaps the majority are Muslims. But so what? Does that somehow make it better? Would you be less disappointed if a Muslim beheaded Gandalf rather than Sprint?

So why did you bring it up Bobby? Did you have a point?

And yet a lot of them share their goals. What do you actually know about what the "overwhelming majority" of Muslims think?

I will give you that - most people want to avoid an early, violent end. Even here of course, Islam creates plenty of exceptions.

Is that the extent of what you are projecting onto the world's Muslims? Fear of death?

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:



Logic is failing you, bobby.




There ain't no such creature bobby.

A 'moderate moslem' is a mythical beast.


When moderate moslems say that 'radicals are hated & not supported' they [the moderate moslems] are posturing.

Dictionary;
posture = =  v. [often as noun posturing] behave in a way that is intended to impress or mislead others.




This is a moslem 'posturing' too bobby.

Telling the public in the UK that he condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.

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these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
another source, "Undercover in the academy of hatred"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458729/posts



bobby,

Why does a person, a moslem, insist that he is a moslem,      ...but will then publicly, try to disassociate himself from what he knows, mainstream ISLAM promotes in ISLAM's mainstream doctrines ???

bobby,

If a person denounces the principle tenets of ISLAM, for example by declaring that 'radicals are hated & not supported', then in what sense, is the moderate moslem, a moslem ?




       ....the very the tenets and laws of ISLAM, in the Koran, which the 'radical moslems' adhere to ?

Your logic is failing you, bobby.



bobby,

You are dreaming.

You are living in lala land.



Dictionary;
la-la land = =
1 Los Angeles or Hollywood, especially with regard to the film and television industry.
2 a dreamworld.





bobby, bobby, bobby, bobby.....

Lets me say it once more,      .....with feeling;


Every moslem, is a moslem.


A moslem is a follower of ISLAM.       < -------- dictionary definition.



Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1451577940/5#5
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Bobby wrote

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You're 2016 years behind the times Bobby.

Luke 16:16  The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached , and every man presseth into it.

Clearly tells Christians that the law had a time line which ended with John

Rom 3:20  Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Rom 3:28  Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.


Gal 2:16  Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.


Gal 3:11  But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.

Again clearly tells Christians that they cannot justify themselves with the law.

Why do you keep harping on about something which was thrown out 2016 years ago?

Don't really agree Bobby.

With regards to the law being fulfilled (1 - 2 - 3) of your post, as I see it

Christ said in Mathew 5:17  Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

Fulfill means:
(1) To accomplish or to carry into effect, as a Prophecy or a Promise; (2) to meet or satisfy the requirements; (3) to bring to a finish or completion; (4) to bring the conditions of a law to realization; (5)to bring to a consummation. (6) to bring to fruition.

Consequently if the O.T. Law has been successfully brought to a conclusion, it is finished, not applicable to today's Christian. Christ fulfilled the law.

(3b) I would say that Christians could see scripture as **useful for teaching, for refutation, for correction, and for training in righteousness. There is nothing which says blind adherence and total lack of analysis is obligatory, so no the law still is defunct.

(3c)Men make prophecies guided by whatever their inner spirit is telling them at the time, they assume it is of a holy nature. However Christians are told in 1John 4:1  Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God, So christians are told to question the spirit. Also reference to the wrong spirit is in Luke 9:55  But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. (Christians  must not just accept things blindly Bobby)

(4 & 5) When Christ was rebuked for  not washing His hands you will notice His answer was: Mark 7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. Full well means **to know something without a doubt** You know something with absolute certainty. The Jews had long ago realized that the kill the disobedient children law was wrong they had given it up, Christ agreed with their beliefs he was simply calling them hypocrites for chiding him for not obeying the law of washing your hands, when they themselves had dismissed the law themselves. If you have read the relevant chapter the point of it all is fully explained: Matthew 15:11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. (So no I can't agree with the anti Christian agenda that Christ was in favour of, the law had to blindly followed)

(6) You don't think Jesus was using an overstated analogy? How do you explain the following:

John 8:3  And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,

John 8:4  They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.

John 8:5  Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?

John 8:6  This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.

John 8:7  So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

Once again I think your pushed by overzealous anti-Christian agendas.

(7) My take has always been that men preach and write what their inner being tells them, 2000 years ago slavery was an accepted part of society, I think it is a good thing that at least the societies of today which had their roots in Christianity have long ago given up slavery, with todays' hindsight we know that slavery is wrong. (we are well ahead of muslims, Hindus and whoever else is still practicing human rights abuses, in this field)

(8) a bit of disingenuous work here Bobby

John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. (the important bit is: grace and truth came by Christ) clearly reinforcing the teaching that man was redeemed by grace and faith in Christ not the law.

John 7:19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me? ( This is merely a statement of fact, it also reinforces the bit about  not washing your hands (see 4&5 above).