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moses Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 6353	Re: TOO MANY 'LONE WOLFS' Reply #60 - Aug 25^th, 2016 at 5:00pm Bobby wrote: Quote: Hi Moses - I read it differently to you. It's a pity that the same text can be read 2 ways by 2 different people. Sounds ambiguous to me. There's a pretty good explanation for the different understandings Bobby Mark4:9 And he said unto them, He that hath ears to hear, let him hear.
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Unforgiven Gold Member Offline I have sinned Posts: 8879 Gender:	Re: TOO MANY 'LONE WOLFS' Reply #62 - Aug 25^th, 2016 at 6:07pm Yadda wrote on Aug 25^th, 2016 at 12:58am: A 'moderate moslem' is a mythical beast. That is so patently and blatantly a lie. Yadda is the epitome of misery seeking company.
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Re: TOO MANY 'LONE WOLFS'
Reply #63 - Aug 25^th, 2016 at 7:50pm

Unforgiven wrote on Aug 25^th, 2016 at 6:07pm:

Yadda wrote on Aug 25^th, 2016 at 12:58am:

A 'moderate moslem' is a mythical beast.

That is so patently and blatantly a lie.

Oh, ya think so ???

Unforgiven,

Here we have a moslem in the UK pretending to be a 'moderate' moslem, ....when he told NON-MOSLEMS in the UK, .....that all moslems condemn the killing of all innocent civilians.

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Quote:

Inside the sect that loves terror
August 07, 2005

......In public interviews
Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians.

Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent:

“Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”

these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
another source, "Undercover in the academy of hatred"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458729/posts

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Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami

Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-isla...

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Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW, TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Unforgiven,

Here we have another moslem in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.

Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;

Quote:

YT

KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

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Re: TOO MANY 'LONE WOLFS'
Reply #64 - Aug 25^th, 2016 at 9:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

I will give you that - most people want to avoid an early, violent end. Even here of course, Islam creates plenty of exceptions.

Is that the extent of what you are projecting onto the world's Muslims? Fear of death?

Yes - I think normal people fear death.
Religions play on their fears.

I actually got my ideas from watching a Q&A one night.
A moderate Muslim defended her fellow Muslims by saying that
the radicals are hated & not supported.

It's really the same as the Christians -
how many Christians follow the laws of Deuteronomy?

see here:
http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/

So the best thing you think think of to say about the "vast majority" of Muslims is that they fear death?

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Reply #65 - Aug 26^th, 2016 at 7:00pm

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2016 at 9:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

I will give you that - most people want to avoid an early, violent end. Even here of course, Islam creates plenty of exceptions.

Is that the extent of what you are projecting onto the world's Muslims? Fear of death?

Yes - I think normal people fear death.
Religions play on their fears.

I actually got my ideas from watching a Q&A one night.
A moderate Muslim defended her fellow Muslims by saying that
the radicals are hated & not supported.

It's really the same as the Christians -
how many Christians follow the laws of Deuteronomy?

see here:
http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/

So the best thing you think think of to say about the "vast majority" of Muslims is that they fear death?

I am sure they do - so much so that
they place their bums in the air 5 times a day to
make sure they go to heaven.

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Reply #66 - Aug 27^th, 2016 at 2:06pm

Some muzzies love death

Islamic supremacists frequently affirm how much they love death. Austrian Muslim teenage girls who recently traveled to Syria for jihad announced: “Death is our goal.” Boko Haram leader Abubakar Shekau said: “I’m even longing for death, you vagabond.” A Muslim child preacher recently taunted those he has been taught to hate most: “Oh Zionists, we love death for the sake of Allah, just as much as you love life for the sake of Satan.” Jihad mass murderer Mohamed Merah said that he “loved death more than they loved life.”

Chief Palestinian Authority cleric Mufti Sheikh Ikrimeh Sabri said in an interview; "We tell them, in as much as you love life, the Muslim loves death and martyrdom. There is a great difference between he who loves the hereafter and he who loves this world. The Muslim loves death and strives for martyrdom."

qur'an 62.6: Say (O Muhammad): O ye who are Jews! If ye claim that ye are favoured of Allah apart from (all) mankind, then long for death if ye are truthful.

truthful followers of allah long for death according to muhammad

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Reply #67 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 10:06am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 26^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2016 at 9:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

I will give you that - most people want to avoid an early, violent end. Even here of course, Islam creates plenty of exceptions.

Is that the extent of what you are projecting onto the world's Muslims? Fear of death?

Yes - I think normal people fear death.
Religions play on their fears.

I actually got my ideas from watching a Q&A one night.
A moderate Muslim defended her fellow Muslims by saying that
the radicals are hated & not supported.

It's really the same as the Christians -
how many Christians follow the laws of Deuteronomy?

see here:
http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/

So the best thing you think think of to say about the "vast majority" of Muslims is that they fear death?

I am sure they do - so much so that
they place their bums in the air 5 times a day to
make sure they go to heaven.

Surely there is something else good you can say about the vast majority of Muslims? After all, the bad ones are only 0.1%, right?

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Reply #68 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 12:05pm

freediver wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 10:06am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 26^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2016 at 9:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

I will give you that - most people want to avoid an early, violent end. Even here of course, Islam creates plenty of exceptions.

Is that the extent of what you are projecting onto the world's Muslims? Fear of death?

Yes - I think normal people fear death.
Religions play on their fears.

I actually got my ideas from watching a Q&A one night.
A moderate Muslim defended her fellow Muslims by saying that
the radicals are hated & not supported.

It's really the same as the Christians -
how many Christians follow the laws of Deuteronomy?

see here:
http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/

So the best thing you think think of to say about the "vast majority" of Muslims is that they fear death?

I am sure they do - so much so that
they place their bums in the air 5 times a day to
make sure they go to heaven.

Surely there is something else good you can say about the vast majority of Muslims? After all, the bad ones are only 0.1%, right?

No, you are mistaken FD.

The bad moslems are less than

0.01%

.....according to bobby.

Bobby. wrote on Aug 21^st, 2016 at 10:18pm:

dear Yadda,

Probably less than 0.01% of Muslims are radicals who have all those beliefs.

Most people just want to live a life in peace.

Try to get a reality check.

So obviously false.

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Reply #69 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 1:07pm

freediver wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 10:06am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 26^th, 2016 at 7:00pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2016 at 9:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24^th, 2016 at 10:28pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2016 at 9:43pm:

I will give you that - most people want to avoid an early, violent end. Even here of course, Islam creates plenty of exceptions.

Is that the extent of what you are projecting onto the world's Muslims? Fear of death?

Yes - I think normal people fear death.
Religions play on their fears.

I actually got my ideas from watching a Q&A one night.
A moderate Muslim defended her fellow Muslims by saying that
the radicals are hated & not supported.

It's really the same as the Christians -
how many Christians follow the laws of Deuteronomy?

see here:
http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/

So the best thing you think think of to say about the "vast majority" of Muslims is that they fear death?

I am sure they do - so much so that
they place their bums in the air 5 times a day to
make sure they go to heaven.

Surely there is something else good you can say about the vast majority of Muslims? After all, the bad ones are only 0.1%, right?

The bad ones are between 0.1 % & 0.01 % in my opinion.

Although I wonder about Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Syria & Saudi Arabia -
I wouldn't want to live there.
Perhaps 50% of them there are lunatics?

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50566 At my desk.	Re: TOO MANY 'LONE WOLFS' Reply #70 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 2:05pm Other than fearing death, what makes 99.9% of them good?
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Bobby. Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 111593 Melbourne Gender:	Re: TOO MANY 'LONE WOLFS' Reply #71 - Aug 28^th, 2016 at 2:07pm freediver wrote on Aug 28^th, 2016 at 2:05pm: Other than fearing death, what makes 99.9% of them good? You're right - none of them are any good - maybe they should all be killed? George Carlin - List of people who ought to be killed.
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Reply #72 - Nov 1^st, 2017 at 4:00pm

TOO MANY 'LONE WOLF'S' !!!!!!!

I see, that after the latest attack in NY, the MSM are again using the term, 'Lone Wolf'.

The term, 'Lone Wolf', when referring to single ISLAMIST attackers, is, imo, an intentional misnomer.

Dictionary;
misnomer = = a wrong or inaccurate name or term. the wrong use of a name or term.

Using that term, is yet another device which is being employed by the MSM,
to, imo, intentionally and deceitfully, seek to divert responsibility for ISLAMIST atrocities, away from ISLAM!

QUESTIONS;

Why do so many among us, seem to be totally unable to associate the moslem, with what ISLAM is ?

QUESTIONS;
Even when many of us are now coming to some 'realisation', of the extent of the religious bigotry which ISLAM is responsible for promoting in the world, .....why do so many among us still choose to socially accept the moslem as though the moslem was, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, totally un-associated with what ISLAM is ?

QUESTIONS;
Why do so many among us, so readily accept the denials which come from the moslem, ....when they [moslems] insist that they want to totally dis-associate themselves, from all the violent extremism......a violent extremism which seems to 'infect' so many individuals, who are associated with ISLAM ?

.....but yet, they [moslems], are still willing to 'emphasise' their personal association, with ISLAM!

TOO MANY 'LONE WOLF'S' !!!!!!!

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Quote:

Flaws in the 'Lone Wolf' Analysis

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As former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a critic of the lone wolf analysis for years now, has observed (and tweeted)

"the lone wolf has become a pack of wolves and the pack of wolves has a common ideology."

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The media loop had come full circle but only in terminology.

Al-Anisi shows that he uses the term merely as a convenience. He undercuts its logic by advising the successful "Lone Jihad to return to his fellow Mujahid brothers !!!!!!!!

and coordinate with them in order to unite the efforts,"

demonstrating that the "Lone Jihad" is not really lone at all. !!!!!!!!

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Ultimately the "lone wolf" analysis provides a useful tool for anyone seeking to disconnect Islam from jihad attacks.

http://www.meforum.org/6164/flaws-in-lone-wolf-analysis

CONSIDER;
Even today, when we all readily have access to the 'manifesto' of cultural documents, which are a guide to the moslem,
....cultural documents which unambiguously direct the moslem, in how the moslem should conduct himself in the world,
....many of us are willing to 'disbelieve' [or at least, to ignore the import of] what that 'manifesto' of documents urge.

A 'manifesto' of documents, which are a 'hard-copy' written witness, of so many shocking and violent and hateful urgings !!

Dictionary;
manifesto = = a public declaration of policy and aims.

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Every moslem in Australia, is a moslem.

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. Ignorance may deride it. But in the end, there it is.
- Winston Churchill

THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him."

- DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1499248128/0#0
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Don't be duped, by moslem denials.

THE TRUTH....

Every moslem in Australia, is a moslem.

A moslem is a follower of ISLAM. < -------- dictionary definition.

Q.
Would a person who is an honest person, and a person who is a moral person, choose, to be a follower of such a murderous philosophy ?

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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
Quote:

"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda

QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?

QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'], ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?

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Reply #73 - Nov 2^nd, 2017 at 8:59am

Quote:

By Robert Spencer on Oct 31, 2017 06:12 pm

NY Governor Cuomo on NYC jihad massacre:
......No evidence to suggest wider plot, “no ongoing threat”

No evidence to suggest a wider plot or an ongoing threat?

Really, Governor?

Here’s some: last June, the Islamic State published a poster depicting an SUV driving over a heap of skulls and bearing the legend “Run Over Them Without Mercy.”

And the Islamic State issued this call in September 2014: So O muwahhid, do not.....

Google

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TOO MANY 'LONE WOLF'S' !!!!!!!

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Quote:

Flaws in the 'Lone Wolf' Analysis

.......

As former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a critic of the lone wolf analysis for years now, has observed (and tweeted)

"the lone wolf has become a pack of wolves and the pack of wolves has a common ideology."

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Ultimately the "lone wolf" analysis provides a useful tool for anyone seeking to disconnect Islam from jihad attacks.

http://www.meforum.org/6164/flaws-in-lone-wolf-analysis

Those in authority, and who are charged with protecting us from criminality, and from terrorism,
continue to refuse to associate the terrorism which we are seeing EVERYDAY with the precepts of ISLAM, which encourage terrorism.

"which we are seeing EVERYDAY"

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THE RELIGION OF PEACE

http://thereligionofpeace.com/

QUESTIONS;
Why do so many among us, so readily accept the denials which come from the moslem,
when they [moslems] insist that they totally dis-associate themselves, from all of the violent extremism that we see,
when that violent extremism can be directly linked to the teachings of ISLAM ?

A violent extremism which seems to 'infect' so many individuals, who are associated with ISLAM ?

Allah's Apostle said,
"I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)...."
hadith/bukhari #004.052.220

".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies):....."
hadithsunnah/muslim/ #004.1062

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"....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead."
Luke 16:31

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AussieAmAndARC Full Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 134 in your wildest dreams... Gender:	Re: TOO MANY 'LONE WOLFS' Reply #74 - Dec 12^th, 2017 at 10:52pm Thank ALL that is brilliant and beautiful just for the lone wolves ... nothing dishonest about them, is my experience.
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