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Aug 21st, 2016 at 10:00pm
 

TOO MANY 'LONE WOLF'S' !!!!!!!


....and too many naive 'sheep'.



Bobby. wrote on Aug 20th, 2016 at 4:00pm:

dear Yadda,

Probably less than 0.01% of Muslims are radicals who have all those beliefs.


Most people just want to live a life in peace.

Try to get a reality check.





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QUESTIONS;
Why do so many among us, seem to be totally unable to associate the moslem, with what ISLAM is ?

Even when many of us are now coming to some 'realisation', of the extent of the religious bigotry which ISLAM is responsible for promoting in the world,       .....why do so many among us still choose to socially accept the moslem as though the moslem was, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, totally un-associated with what ISLAM is ?

Why do so many among us, so readily accept the denials which come from the moslem,     ....when they [moslems] insist that they want to totally dis-associate themselves, from all the violent extremism......a violent extremism which seems to 'infect' so many individuals, who are associated with ISLAM ?

.....but yet, they [moslems], are still willing to 'emphasise' their personal association, with ISLAM!



TOO MANY 'LONE WOLF'S' !!!!!!!


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Quote:

Flaws in the 'Lone Wolf' Analysis


.......

As former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani, a critic of the lone wolf analysis for years now, has observed (and tweeted)

"the lone wolf has become a pack of wolves and the pack of wolves has a common ideology."


http://www.meforum.org/6164/flaws-in-lone-wolf-analysis




Even today, when we all readily have access to the 'manifesto' of cultural documents, which are a guide to the moslem,       ....unambiguously directing the moslem, in how the moslem should conduct himself in the world,       .....many of us are willing to 'disbelieve' [or at least, to ignore the import of] what that 'manifesto' of documents urge.

A 'manifesto' of documents, which are a 'hard-copy' written witness, of so many shocking and violent and hateful urgings !!

Dictionary;
manifesto = = a public declaration of policy and aims.




And yet, all a moslem must seemingly do,
         .....is to insist to his non-moslem friend, that he, a moslem [and by definition a follower of ISLAM!],         ....does not agree with the violence which some members of his faith are so willing to engage in,
.....and straight away, the non-moslem is willing to 'classify' his moslem friend, as a 'moderate' moslem.

And yet, how many times, have we read, in the wake of some new and recent Jihadist atrocity, committed within a Western nation,      ....the friends and neighbours and associates of the Jihadist attacker, express their surprise at what has occurred,    and often times, will describe the attacker as a polite and friendly person!



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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1431117115/1#1
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"every moslem in Australia is a latent, wanna-be homicidal maniac"

- Yadda



QUESTION;
What about the innocent moslems ?

IMO, [logically] there are no innocent moslems [among persons who have come to the age of consent], and yet still declare themselves to be moslems.

How so [logically] ?

QUESTION;
How credible is it that a person who is devout enough to insist that he is a moslem, is unaware of what ISLAM promotes, and is unaware of what the principle tenets of ISLAM are ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],      ...to a philosophy which transforms human beings, into homicidal maniacs ?


QUESTION;
How 'innocent' is a person who agrees to give aid and comfort [and to give their own 'power'],     ...to a philosophy which claims that murdering, in the cause of religious bigotry, is a religious virtue ?





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Reply #1 - Aug 21st, 2016 at 10:18pm
 
dear Yadda,

Probably less than 0.01% of Muslims are radicals who have all those beliefs.

Most people just want to live a life in peace.

Try to get a reality check.
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Reply #2 - Aug 21st, 2016 at 10:25pm
 
What beliefs in particular?
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Reply #3 - Aug 21st, 2016 at 10:33pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 21st, 2016 at 10:25pm:
What beliefs in particular?


Beliefs where they think that all those who
aren't Muslims have to murdered.
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Reply #4 - Aug 21st, 2016 at 10:40pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 21st, 2016 at 10:18pm:

dear Yadda,

Probably less than 0.01% of Muslims are radicals who have all those beliefs.

Most people just want to live a life in peace.

Try to get a reality check.





The meaning of words.

The meaning of the words we use.




bobby,

When a person tells you, that he is a moslem.

When a person self-describes himself, to others around him, as a moslem.

What then defines that word, which he has used, to 'self-describe' ?





Here is another word bobby,

Integrity.


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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1402138274/18#18
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The two most important characteristics which define the personality of a person [imo];
1/ are we honest ?
2/ are we reliable ?                    ....[e.g. if we give someone an undertaking to do something, or to behave in a certain way, will we keep to the [verbal] agreement that we have made ?]

More than that, is superfluous, imo.




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Reply #5 - Aug 21st, 2016 at 10:44pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 21st, 2016 at 10:18pm:
dear Yadda,

Probably less than 0.01% of Muslims are radicals who have all those beliefs.

Most people just want to live a life in peace.

Try to get a reality check.


The 0.01% you speak of is the tip of the spear.
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Reply #6 - Aug 21st, 2016 at 11:01pm
 
Dear Yadda,
your Bible is full of the same murdering nonsense but not all Christians would follow it:


Deut 13   KJV

13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;

14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;

15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the Lord thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.

17 And there shall cleave nought of the cursed thing to thine hand: that the Lord may turn from the fierceness of his anger, and shew thee mercy, and have compassion upon thee, and multiply thee, as he hath sworn unto thy fathers;

18 When thou shalt hearken to the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep all his commandments which I command thee this day, to do that which is right in the eyes of the Lord thy God.
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Reply #7 - Aug 21st, 2016 at 11:32pm
 


You are a liar bobby.

You 'misdirect' and misrepresent motive, for what those verses voice.

And i believe that, after all of these years, you know that.




not evilbible bobby.

evil bobby.

why evil ?

coz, you know that you are misrepresenting and hiding, what the bible, above all, encourages in a man.

integrity.



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Jeremiah 9:3
And they bend their tongues like their bow for lies: but they are not valiant for the truth upon the earth; for they proceed from evil to evil, and they know not me, saith the LORD.
...
...
6  Thine habitation is in the midst of deceit; through deceit they refuse to know me, saith the LORD.


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Reply #8 - Aug 21st, 2016 at 11:47pm
 
Yadda,
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You are a liar bobby.

You 'misdirect' and misrepresent motive, for what those verses voice.




I am not a liar - look up Deut 13 for yourself.
The Bible commands you to kill others.
The Bible is just as evil as the Koran.

They all Abrahamic texts full of evil commands.


Notice they never read out Deut 13 in any church?
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Bobby. wrote on Aug 21st, 2016 at 11:47pm:
Yadda,
Quote:
You are a liar bobby.

You 'misdirect' and misrepresent motive, for what those verses voice.




I am not a liar - look up Deut 13 for yourself.
The Bible commands you to kill others.
The Bible is just as evil as the Koran.

They all Abrahamic texts full of evil commands.





Yeah bobby.

Deuteronomy 13

It is just a complete mystery to you.




And, it is just WRONG, and evil, isn't it bobby.

Deuteronomy 13

WRONG, and evil, that a person should have to be killed,      ....just because he entered into a [mutually beneficial] covenant,      ....and gave a personal commitment to adhere to the of rules of that covenant.

And then, later, decided, chose, to become a covenant breaker,      ....and chose to discard the BINDING commitment which he made.

Fancy having to keep your word bobby!

Fancy having to fulfill your promise.

Its just,        ......evil.




Exodus 19:8




Integrity.


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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1402138274/18#18
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The two most important characteristics which define the personality of a person [imo];
1/ are we honest ?
2/ are we reliable ?                    ....[e.g. if we give someone an undertaking to do something, or to behave in a certain way, will we keep to the [verbal] agreement that we have made ?]

More than that, is superfluous, imo.




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Reply #10 - Aug 22nd, 2016 at 2:33am
 
Five years ago, there were plenty of Muzlim murders, but terrorism was the favourite term. Recently "lone wolf" has appeared in the media, and now journalists are avoiding the issue by reporting them as mental patients. In fact, there are a whole list of terms that are used, extremist, militant blah blah. Anything to avoid saying the M word. Of course you could say anyone who believes the crap in Koran has mental problems.
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Reply #11 - Aug 22nd, 2016 at 6:26am
 
Yadda,
Quote:
Deuteronomy 13

WRONG, and evil, that a person should have to be killed


You haven't read it like 99% of all Christians.

If one person doesn't believe in a particular God - in one city -
then everyone in that city has to be murdered &
the whole city destroyed.


This is the kind of crap that you believe in which is similar to
the nonsense you find in the Koran.



see here:
http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/



Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God

Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods.  In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully.  If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock.  Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it.  Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God.  That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt.  Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction.  Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you.  He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors.  “The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him.” (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
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Reply #12 - Aug 22nd, 2016 at 6:54am
 
http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/


Kill Followers of Other Religions.


1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him.  Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you.  You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery.  And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden.  When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)
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Reply #13 - Aug 22nd, 2016 at 7:42am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 21st, 2016 at 10:33pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 21st, 2016 at 10:25pm:
What beliefs in particular?


Beliefs where they think that all those who
aren't Muslims have to murdered.


Ah. It's kind of hard to convert dead people isn't it Bobby? Your typical conservative Muslim thinks the death penalty should apply for apostates, adulterers, mindless collectives, treaty breakers etc. As Gandalf likes to say, tough titties, off with their heads. Would you like to take a guess at the percentage?
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Reply #14 - Aug 22nd, 2016 at 8:26am
 
Bobby. wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 6:54am:
http://www.evilbible.com/evil-bible-home-page/murder-in-the-bible/


Kill Followers of Other Religions.


(Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

(Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)




bobby,

In your post [above]......    Kill Followers of Other Religions.


bobby,

QUESTION;
WHO, were to be the target of such punishments ?

ANSWER;
ONLY the Hebrew [the Israelite] covenant breakers.




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Choices, and consequences.

They, are one.


Deuteronomy 4:44
And this is the law which Moses set before the children of Israel:
45  These are the testimonies, and the statutes, and the judgments, which Moses spake unto the children of Israel, after they came forth out of Egypt,


Deuteronomy 6:17
Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and his testimonies, and his statutes, which he hath commanded thee.


1 Kings 2:3
And keep the charge of the LORD thy God, to walk in his ways, to keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and his testimonies, as it is written in the law of Moses, that thou mayest prosper in all that thou doest, and whithersoever thou turnest thyself:


2 Kings 17:13
Yet the LORD testified against Israel, and against Judah, by all the prophets, and by all the seers, saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep my commandments and my statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by my servants the prophets.
14  Notwithstanding they would not hear, but hardened their necks, like to the neck of their fathers, that did not believe in the LORD their God.
15  And they rejected his statutes, and his covenant that he made with their fathers, and his testimonies which he testified against them; and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that were round about them, concerning whom the LORD had charged them, that they should not do like them.


Nehemiah 9:33
Howbeit thou art just in all that is brought upon us; for thou hast done right, but we have done wickedly:
34  Neither have our kings, our princes, our priests, nor our fathers, kept thy law, nor hearkened unto thy commandments and thy testimonies, wherewith thou didst testify against them.
35  For they have not served thee in their kingdom, and in thy great goodness that thou gavest them, and in the large and fat land which thou gavest before them, neither turned they from their wicked works.


Psalms 78:56
Yet they tempted and provoked the most high God, and kept not his testimonies:
57  But turned back, and dealt unfaithfully like their fathers: they were turned aside like a deceitful bow.


Jeremiah 44:22
So that the LORD could no longer bear, because of the evil of your doings, and because of the abominations which ye have committed; therefore is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse, without an inhabitant, as at this day.
23  Because ye have burned incense, and because ye have sinned against the LORD, and have not obeyed the voice of the LORD, nor walked in his law, nor in his statutes, nor in his testimonies; therefore this evil is happened unto you, as at this day.



You can do whatever you like bobby.

There is no bad consequence [to you], for anything that choose to do.

Honest.

/sarc off



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Yadda said somewhere....
Quote:

[in another forum]
Q.
Why are you slandering God, and God's word?

A.
Like many today, you are a person who is *wilfully* ignorant.

And why?
Because the knowledge of truth does not serve you, you turn away from truth, from righteousness, and you turn away from God.
And like many men today, you HATE God.
Because, like most men, you want to please yourself.
Period.

PROPOSITION...
If there is no God, then good and evil are meaningless concepts, except as they are defined by society, and/or by ourselves.
Logically, [if we can ignore, evade, societies rules] we ourselves [within our own 'sphere of influence'] can become the absolute arbiters of what is good and evil.

[i.e. we become like God, we make ourselves God.  2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 "...shewing himself that he is God."]

So that whatever gives us pleasure, and materially enriches us [so as to enable us to gain yet more pleasure], IS GOOD.
And whatever stands in the way of us obtaining pleasure, logically, HAS TO BE BAD, AND 'EVIL'.

Q.
What is the primary 'morality' which has precedence in this age.

A.
If it feels good, do it!

And feelings of 'guilt', are 'illogical', as they do not *serve* us, in the delivery of those things which give us pleasure.

So the logic of carnal man goes;
<b>"Why shouldn't i do whatever will give me the most pleasure in this life??"</b>

Look at this world.
Look at, and in, this world [mankind's world].
Deception, lies, wickedness, everywhere your eye may fall.

But men [mankind], are turning away from [they refuse to *acknowledge*] the truth of it.
The truth of what our choices, has created, is creating.

Q.
What are our choices creating?

A.
We mankind have created cities, and states, that in another age would be called 'Jericho'.

And, there is no repentance, for our wickedness.





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