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Reply #60 - Aug 23rd, 2016 at 2:48pm
 
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According to you, Moses, Islam motivates pimps, drug dealers and money launderers. The fact that Islam prohibits prostitution, drugs and ursury is lost somewhere in the translation.

No worries though. It doesn’t mean what it says, no?


Eer no, according to the teachings of muhammad, the commands of allah, the verses in the qur'an, islam motivates rape, torture and murder, on an unimaginable level of depravity.

Tell us some more about how you interpret the following to mean what you say e.g.:

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qur'an 3.167: And that He might make evident those who are hypocrites. For it was said to them, "Come, fight in the way of Allah or [at least] defend." They said, "If we had known [there would be] fighting, we would have followed you." They were nearer to disbelief that day than to faith, saying with their mouths what was not in their hearts. And Allah is most Knowing of what they conceal.


The Koran here points out that those who become Muslims just to fight are nearer to disbelief than faith.


Why did you lie karnal?

The qur'an specifically says that to say you want to fight when that is not in your heart, is closer to disbelief than faith.

No matter how much you apologize for the cults' tenets and actions.

The faithfull are the killers karnal.

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Reply #61 - Aug 23rd, 2016 at 2:55pm
 
moses wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 2:48pm:
karnal wrote:

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According to you, Moses, Islam motivates pimps, drug dealers and money launderers. The fact that Islam prohibits prostitution, drugs and ursury is lost somewhere in the translation.

No worries though. It doesn’t mean what it says, no?


Eer no, according to the teachings of muhammad, the commands of allah, the verses in the qur'an, islam motivates rape, torture and murder, on an unimaginable level of depravity.


Strange. Those Asian and Middle Eastern crime gangs are hardly engaging in rape, torture and murder, on an unimaginable level of depravity.

I believe they sell us drugs.

Haram, innit.
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Reply #62 - Aug 23rd, 2016 at 3:01pm
 
Strange isn't the word, karnal.

I'm really sure I said multiculturalism was a source of ethnic crime in another thread.

You're really mixed up aren't you?

So once again for your selective comprehension problem

islam causes and motivates rape torture and mass murder.

multiculturalism is a major source of ethnic crime.

Oh, and you still haven't told us why you deliberately lied about the fact that the qur'an explains that killers are the faithful, and muslims who don't want to fight are closer to disbelief.
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Reply #63 - Aug 23rd, 2016 at 4:07pm
 
moses wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 3:01pm:
Oh, and you still haven't told us why you deliberately lied about the fact that the qur'an explains that killers are the faithful, and muslims who don't want to fight are closer to disbelief.


How did I deliberately lie, Moses?

I'm curious.

Are you suggesting the Muselman is not a source of drug crime?

I'm still curious. Please explain.
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Reply #64 - Aug 23rd, 2016 at 6:29pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 4:07pm:
moses wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 3:01pm:
Oh, and you still haven't told us why you deliberately lied about the fact that the qur'an explains that killers are the faithful, and muslims who don't want to fight are closer to disbelief.


How did I deliberately lie, Moses?

I'm curious.

Are you suggesting the Muselman is not a source of drug crime?

I'm still curious. Please explain.

When do you NOT deliberately lie??

You are a propagandist, always jumping on to lie and distort.
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Reply #65 - Aug 23rd, 2016 at 7:38pm
 
Frank wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 6:29pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 4:07pm:
moses wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 3:01pm:
Oh, and you still haven't told us why you deliberately lied about the fact that the qur'an explains that killers are the faithful, and muslims who don't want to fight are closer to disbelief.


How did I deliberately lie, Moses?

I'm curious.

Are you suggesting the Muselman is not a source of drug crime?

I'm still curious. Please explain.

When do you NOT deliberately lie??

You are a propagandist, always jumping on to lie and distort.


Yes, but you’re new here, Frank. You would have missed all the old boy’s porkies.

Ah, the good old days.

You’re not a Freudian by any chance, are you?
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Reply #66 - Aug 23rd, 2016 at 8:19pm
 
Karnal, how's the crayon heart drawing coming along? Quick now, we can't stop terrorism without it.
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Reply #67 - Aug 23rd, 2016 at 10:12pm
 
sir prince duke alevine wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 8:19pm:
Karnal, how's the crayon heart drawing coming along? Quick now, we can't stop terrorism without it.


Looks like we’ve got a free associator here, dear chap.

Miam miam.

Do you want to assess him, or should I?
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Reply #68 - Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:02pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 9:04pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 6:13pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 3:11pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 2:02pm:
Karnal regarding this one:

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“…whosoever killeth a human being… it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind…”

I heard an Islamist explain that non believers and apostates are not considered human so there's wiggle room.

Red wedding miam miam.


Yes, and I heard the same UK imam saying non-Muslims were considered "less worthy" in the eyes of Allah, and not non-human.

But either way, Kurds at a wedding party are non-combatants and can't be killed, as the Koran says, "unlawfully". ISIS are not at war with Turkey. Weddings aren't a battlefield. Unarmed civilians aren't soldiers.

There is no way you could defend such a massacre as in accordance with Islamic teachings.


Could you defend the slaughter of 800 innocent Jews?


Keep up, FD. It was 1200 at last count.

But don’t worry. It should be 2000 by the end of the year.

But I’m curious. How come you’re silent on the slaughter of tens of thousands of Jews by your good old Roman  democrats? According to you, this created a so-called Hebrew reform movement some call the diaspora.

Historians, of course, are silent on that one. Thoughts?



If Gandalf can use Islamic teachings to defend the slaughter of 800 innocent Jews, why would it be impossible for a true Muslim to defend the slaughter of Turks using Islamic teachings?

Quick Karnal, change the subject.

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Re: 50 dead at Turkish wedding
Reply #69 - Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:04pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:02pm:
If Gandalf can use Islamic teachings to defend the slaughter of 800 innocent Jews


Ah... if indeed.

Forgive me FD - I know I've asked you this before - but do you ever get sick of just making crap up?
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Reply #70 - Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:20pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:02pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 9:04pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 6:13pm:
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 3:11pm:
Gordon wrote on Aug 22nd, 2016 at 2:02pm:
Karnal regarding this one:

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“…whosoever killeth a human being… it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind…”

I heard an Islamist explain that non believers and apostates are not considered human so there's wiggle room.

Red wedding miam miam.


Yes, and I heard the same UK imam saying non-Muslims were considered "less worthy" in the eyes of Allah, and not non-human.

But either way, Kurds at a wedding party are non-combatants and can't be killed, as the Koran says, "unlawfully". ISIS are not at war with Turkey. Weddings aren't a battlefield. Unarmed civilians aren't soldiers.

There is no way you could defend such a massacre as in accordance with Islamic teachings.


Could you defend the slaughter of 800 innocent Jews?


Keep up, FD. It was 1200 at last count.

But don’t worry. It should be 2000 by the end of the year.

But I’m curious. How come you’re silent on the slaughter of tens of thousands of Jews by your good old Roman  democrats? According to you, this created a so-called Hebrew reform movement some call the diaspora.

Historians, of course, are silent on that one. Thoughts?



If Gandalf can use Islamic teachings to defend the slaughter of 800 innocent Jews, why would it be impossible for a true Muslim to defend the slaughter of Turks using Islamic teachings?

Quick Karnal, change the subject.



True, FD. If G can use the cunning ruse of self defense, why not kill off a few Turks too?

But I’m curious. What do you think of ancient Roman Jewish slaughter?

Don’t you have a graph?
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Reply #71 - Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:37pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:02pm:
If Gandalf can use Islamic teachings to defend the slaughter of 800 innocent Jews


Ah... if indeed.

Forgive me FD - I know I've asked you this before - but do you ever get sick of just making crap up?


Tough titties, off with their heads, religion of peace.....
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Reply #72 - Aug 24th, 2016 at 9:12pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:37pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:02pm:
If Gandalf can use Islamic teachings to defend the slaughter of 800 innocent Jews


Ah... if indeed.

Forgive me FD - I know I've asked you this before - but do you ever get sick of just making crap up?


Tough titties, off with their heads, religion of peace.....


Do you have a graph?
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Reply #73 - Aug 24th, 2016 at 9:51pm
 
freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:37pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:02pm:
If Gandalf can use Islamic teachings to defend the slaughter of 800 innocent Jews


Ah... if indeed.

Forgive me FD - I know I've asked you this before - but do you ever get sick of just making crap up?


Tough titties, off with their heads, religion of peace.....


Well at least this time you didn't even bother attempting to sustain your BS claim.

White flag accepted.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #74 - Aug 24th, 2016 at 9:52pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 9:12pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:37pm:
polite_gandalf wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:02pm:
If Gandalf can use Islamic teachings to defend the slaughter of 800 innocent Jews


Ah... if indeed.

Forgive me FD - I know I've asked you this before - but do you ever get sick of just making crap up?


Tough titties, off with their heads, religion of peace.....


Do you have a graph?


Preferably overlapping with a map showing something sinister about the caliphate.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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