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Re: Lies, Damn Lies & Our ABC
Reply #75 - Aug 24th, 2016 at 12:33pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 10:01am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:38am:
So where did these gunships come from?



We designed and built ours during the Vietnam conflict. PNG never had any Gunships, they (YOUR ABC) made it up.

We sold (gave) PNG some Utility choppers, they were not even geared up as slicks, we most certainly never gave them our gunships.


They do like a good beat up, knowing that inner city retards will have no experience and be totally ignorant of the truth.







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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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Reply #76 - Aug 24th, 2016 at 1:57pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 10:01am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:38am:
So where did these gunships come from?



We designed and built ours during the Vietnam conflict. PNG never had any Gunships, they (YOUR ABC) made it up.

We sold (gave) PNG some Utility choppers, they were not even geared up as slicks, we most certainly never gave them our gunships.


They do like a good beat up, knowing that inner city retards will have no experience and be totally ignorant of the truth.







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Great reply, you tosser.

Remember next time you try to argue against someone who actually knows the subject, this is the most wanky way to end it.  Grin Grin Grin




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Reply #77 - Aug 24th, 2016 at 2:00pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 10:01am:
(YOUR ABC) made it up.


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Reply #78 - Aug 24th, 2016 at 2:27pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 2:00pm:



I was pointing the finger at incompetence of the ABC reporter and the stupidity of the ABC supporters.


Remember it is not a conspiracy if the perpetrators are just incompetent.  Smiley Smiley
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Reply #79 - Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:06pm
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 10:49am:
Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 9:13am:
Forget about the ABC's grandstanding story making out they have exposed institutionalized child abuse in govt detention centres .....  it's BS.

these youths are there for a reason, they are out of control and have been dealt with in a manner
that would be used with anyone carrying on as they do, fighting, kicking, biting, abusing, spitting etc.

Restraint chairs & spit hoods are there for the prison officers & the inmates safety.

You monotonous drones calling it child abuse & racial discrimination ought just remember not all the inmates portrayed were/are indigenous.

How would you suggest that out of control youths be restrained/treated?

   


picking a 12 yr old kid up by the neck and tossing him across the room is abuse, locking them up in a cell no bigger than my WC for weeks on end, with no fresh air and no running water, in the territories heat, is abuse. Hitting them is abuse. If you can't do your job of guarding the big bad kids without abusing them, take up knitting as a career.


They weren't 12 yr olds.
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Reply #80 - Aug 25th, 2016 at 8:38am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 1:57pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 10:01am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:38am:
So where did these gunships come from?



We designed and built ours during the Vietnam conflict. PNG never had any Gunships, they (YOUR ABC) made it up.

We sold (gave) PNG some Utility choppers, they were not even geared up as slicks, we most certainly never gave them our gunships.


They do like a good beat up, knowing that inner city retards will have no experience and be totally ignorant of the truth.







http://www.relatably.com/m/img/dr-evil-meme-right/s-l1000.jpg




Great reply, you tosser.

Remember next time you try to argue against someone who actually knows the subject, this is the most wanky way to end it.  Grin Grin Grin







I guess though the inner city retards phtoshopped the videotape at PNG?
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

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Reply #81 - Aug 25th, 2016 at 8:52am
 
Gnads wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 10:49am:
Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 9:13am:
Forget about the ABC's grandstanding story making out they have exposed institutionalized child abuse in govt detention centres .....  it's BS.

these youths are there for a reason, they are out of control and have been dealt with in a manner
that would be used with anyone carrying on as they do, fighting, kicking, biting, abusing, spitting etc.

Restraint chairs & spit hoods are there for the prison officers & the inmates safety.

You monotonous drones calling it child abuse & racial discrimination ought just remember not all the inmates portrayed were/are indigenous.

How would you suggest that out of control youths be restrained/treated?

   


picking a 12 yr old kid up by the neck and tossing him across the room is abuse, locking them up in a cell no bigger than my WC for weeks on end, with no fresh air and no running water, in the territories heat, is abuse. Hitting them is abuse. If you can't do your job of guarding the big bad kids without abusing them, take up knitting as a career.


They weren't 12 yr olds.


he was at the time the video was taken
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Reply #82 - Aug 25th, 2016 at 9:18am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 25th, 2016 at 8:38am:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 1:57pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 10:01am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:38am:
So where did these gunships come from?



We designed and built ours during the Vietnam conflict. PNG never had any Gunships, they (YOUR ABC) made it up.

We sold (gave) PNG some Utility choppers, they were not even geared up as slicks, we most certainly never gave them our gunships.


They do like a good beat up, knowing that inner city retards will have no experience and be totally ignorant of the truth.







http://www.relatably.com/m/img/dr-evil-meme-right/s-l1000.jpg




Great reply, you tosser.

Remember next time you try to argue against someone who actually knows the subject, this is the most wanky way to end it.  Grin Grin Grin







I guess though the inner city retards phtoshopped the videotape at PNG?



No the footage clearly show that the aircraft were NOT gunships. The Iroquois helicopters shown were the ones we sold as utilities they weren't even set up as slicks.

The inner city retard believed the lie they were being told by YOUR ABC.

We had 5 Gunships before we sold aircraft to PNG and we had 5 Gunships after we sold aircraft to PNG. They do not have the capacity or capability to modify utility aircraft to gunship capability.


The story was a beat up, a lie to the ignorant masses to be consumed with their lattes and biscotte


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Reply #83 - Aug 25th, 2016 at 9:21am
 
John Smith wrote on Aug 25th, 2016 at 8:52am:
Gnads wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 10:49am:
Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 9:13am:
Forget about the ABC's grandstanding story making out they have exposed institutionalized child abuse in govt detention centres .....  it's BS.

these youths are there for a reason, they are out of control and have been dealt with in a manner
that would be used with anyone carrying on as they do, fighting, kicking, biting, abusing, spitting etc.

Restraint chairs & spit hoods are there for the prison officers & the inmates safety.

You monotonous drones calling it child abuse & racial discrimination ought just remember not all the inmates portrayed were/are indigenous.

How would you suggest that out of control youths be restrained/treated?

   


picking a 12 yr old kid up by the neck and tossing him across the room is abuse, locking them up in a cell no bigger than my WC for weeks on end, with no fresh air and no running water, in the territories heat, is abuse. Hitting them is abuse. If you can't do your job of guarding the big bad kids without abusing them, take up knitting as a career.


They weren't 12 yr olds.


he was at the time the video was taken




Biggest 12 yr old I've ever seen; the guards must be putting him in the top paddock.


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Reply #84 - Aug 25th, 2016 at 10:05am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 25th, 2016 at 9:21am:
John Smith wrote on Aug 25th, 2016 at 8:52am:
Gnads wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 10:49am:
Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 9:13am:
Forget about the ABC's grandstanding story making out they have exposed institutionalized child abuse in govt detention centres .....  it's BS.

these youths are there for a reason, they are out of control and have been dealt with in a manner
that would be used with anyone carrying on as they do, fighting, kicking, biting, abusing, spitting etc.

Restraint chairs & spit hoods are there for the prison officers & the inmates safety.

You monotonous drones calling it child abuse & racial discrimination ought just remember not all the inmates portrayed were/are indigenous.

How would you suggest that out of control youths be restrained/treated?

   


picking a 12 yr old kid up by the neck and tossing him across the room is abuse, locking them up in a cell no bigger than my WC for weeks on end, with no fresh air and no running water, in the territories heat, is abuse. Hitting them is abuse. If you can't do your job of guarding the big bad kids without abusing them, take up knitting as a career.


They weren't 12 yr olds.


he was at the time the video was taken




Biggest 12 yr old I've ever seen; the guards must be putting him in the top paddock.





I've seen bigger.
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Reply #85 - Aug 25th, 2016 at 10:27am
 
Gnads wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:06pm:
John Smith wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 10:49am:
Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2016 at 9:13am:
Forget about the ABC's grandstanding story making out they have exposed institutionalized child abuse in govt detention centres .....  it's BS.

these youths are there for a reason, they are out of control and have been dealt with in a manner
that would be used with anyone carrying on as they do, fighting, kicking, biting, abusing, spitting etc.

Restraint chairs & spit hoods are there for the prison officers & the inmates safety.

You monotonous drones calling it child abuse & racial discrimination ought just remember not all the inmates portrayed were/are indigenous.

How would you suggest that out of control youths be restrained/treated?

   


picking a 12 yr old kid up by the neck and tossing him across the room is abuse, locking them up in a cell no bigger than my WC for weeks on end, with no fresh air and no running water, in the territories heat, is abuse. Hitting them is abuse. If you can't do your job of guarding the big bad kids without abusing them, take up knitting as a career.


They weren't 12 yr olds.


They were.

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Reply #86 - Aug 25th, 2016 at 3:07pm
 
The letter that Meldrum-Hanna sent to Corrections Minister John Elfrink was written 8 weeks before the program aired. Then the story changed, they only acquired the video footage of the treatment of juvenile prisoners right near the end of filming.

What critics of the program are not saying is that once the story had changed they let the NT government know. By the time they filmed in Don Dale Elfrink knew what direction the story was going in.
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Reply #87 - Aug 26th, 2016 at 7:28am
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 25th, 2016 at 9:18am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 25th, 2016 at 8:38am:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 1:57pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 10:01am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:38am:
So where did these gunships come from?



We designed and built ours during the Vietnam conflict. PNG never had any Gunships, they (YOUR ABC) made it up.

We sold (gave) PNG some Utility choppers, they were not even geared up as slicks, we most certainly never gave them our gunships.


They do like a good beat up, knowing that inner city retards will have no experience and be totally ignorant of the truth.







http://www.relatably.com/m/img/dr-evil-meme-right/s-l1000.jpg




Great reply, you tosser.

Remember next time you try to argue against someone who actually knows the subject, this is the most wanky way to end it.  Grin Grin Grin







I guess though the inner city retards phtoshopped the videotape at PNG?



No the footage clearly show that the aircraft were NOT gunships. The Iroquois helicopters shown were the ones we sold as utilities they weren't even set up as slicks.

The inner city retard believed the lie they were being told by YOUR ABC.

We had 5 Gunships before we sold aircraft to PNG and we had 5 Gunships after we sold aircraft to PNG. They do not have the capacity or capability to modify utility aircraft to gunship capability.


The story was a beat up, a lie to the ignorant masses to be consumed with their lattes and biscotte






So bojack, have you worked out where you and YOUR ABC went wrong with the belief that PNG had Gunships, when they very much, did not?

Or is ignorant bliss the 'go to' for all your information gathering and understanding?
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Reply #88 - Aug 26th, 2016 at 12:16pm
 
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 26th, 2016 at 7:28am:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 25th, 2016 at 9:18am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 25th, 2016 at 8:38am:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 1:57pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 12:33pm:
BigOl64 wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 10:01am:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 24th, 2016 at 8:38am:
So where did these gunships come from?



We designed and built ours during the Vietnam conflict. PNG never had any Gunships, they (YOUR ABC) made it up.

We sold (gave) PNG some Utility choppers, they were not even geared up as slicks, we most certainly never gave them our gunships.


They do like a good beat up, knowing that inner city retards will have no experience and be totally ignorant of the truth.







http://www.relatably.com/m/img/dr-evil-meme-right/s-l1000.jpg




Great reply, you tosser.

Remember next time you try to argue against someone who actually knows the subject, this is the most wanky way to end it.  Grin Grin Grin







I guess though the inner city retards phtoshopped the videotape at PNG?



No the footage clearly show that the aircraft were NOT gunships. The Iroquois helicopters shown were the ones we sold as utilities they weren't even set up as slicks.

The inner city retard believed the lie they were being told by YOUR ABC.

We had 5 Gunships before we sold aircraft to PNG and we had 5 Gunships after we sold aircraft to PNG. They do not have the capacity or capability to modify utility aircraft to gunship capability.


The story was a beat up, a lie to the ignorant masses to be consumed with their lattes and biscotte






So bojack, have you worked out where you and YOUR ABC went wrong with the belief that PNG had Gunships, when they very much, did not?

Or is ignorant bliss the 'go to' for all your information gathering and understanding?


Are you talking about the incident back in 1998
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Reply #89 - Aug 26th, 2016 at 12:19pm
 
Can anyone provide a link to the 4 Corners story on this PNG assertion?
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