Setanta wrote on Jan 22
nd, 2017 at 11:51pm:
.....If life here is a test as Christians say and the wheat is being sifted from the chaff, what better way for Dog to do that than make up a bunch of silly beliefs and see who follows them. If Dog made us and he wants us to live with him as company for eternity, would he want sycophants that sit at his knee as yes men kissing his feet or as intellectual beings he can discuss things with? One of those choices would be rather boring.
To cut a long story short, those that are followers of "someone said, so I believe" are the chaff, the ones destined to oblivion, those that use their intellect, those that do not accept crazy as truth are the ones he wants, a joke on the gullible and feeble of mind.
Setanta,
I agree with the logic of your argument.
And i have [more or less] expressed that same argument, previously on OzPol.
e.g.
If the account within scripture can be believed, it presents the
ancient Abraham as
not a fawning, servile flatterer,
not a 'yes man'.
But as a person who sought and enquired, from God, as to why something 'was so'.
Yadda said
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1317254052/25#25 Quote:Genesis 18:23
And Abraham drew near, and said,
Wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?
24 Peradventure there be fifty righteous within the city: wilt thou also destroy and not spare the place for the fifty righteous that are therein?
25 That be far from thee to do after this manner, to slay the righteous with the wicked: and that the righteous should be as the wicked, that be far from thee:
Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?
Abraham was a brave soul,
who knew the difference between righteousness, and wickedness, and who knew the difference between good, and evil.
Abraham was
a righteous soul, and even brave enough to demonstrate to his God, that he, Abraham, was a righteous soul.
Abraham was not a fawning, servile flatterer.
Abraham was not a moslem.+++
Compare Abraham's conduct, with the conduct of moslems [from an ISLAMIC source]....
....."Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) faced
the Black Stone, touched it, and then placed his lips on it
and wept for a long time."
.....Ibn 'Abbas that 'Umar bent down towards the Black Stone and said:
"By Allah! I know that you are a mere stone, and if I had not seen my beloved Prophet (peace be upon him) kissing you and touching you I would have never done so." The Qur'an says:
"You have indeed in the Messenger of Allah a beautiful pattern (of conduct)."'
....
'Ever since I saw the Prophet (peace be upon him) doing this, I have never failed to do that.'law/fiqhussunnah/fus5_76.html#5.74b
Ibn 'Abbas that 'Umar.....
'Ever since I saw the Prophet (peace be upon him) doing this, I have never failed to do that.'
What all moslems are....
Dictionary;
sycophant = = a toady; a servile flatterer.
Moslems take it upon themselves, to murder those, who resist
THEIR WILL.
NO RIGHTEOUS MAN WOULD DO THIS MURDER.
And God will judge them.
And Abraham was a brave and righteous man, and no moslem. 1 Thessalonians 5:21
Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
22 Abstain from all appearance of evil.
".....If life here is a test as Christians say..."
The 'wilderness' type, of scripture, is analogous to our own situ 'in the world'.
i.e.
Our being separated, from the presence of God.
And, our situ as 'the lost sheep', being 'lost in the world',
being lost in the 'wilderness' of the world.
Deuteronomy 8:2
And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years
in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.
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