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Aug 15th, 2016 at 10:40am
 
Derryn Hinch, the celebrity journalist turned senator-elect, says he has problems with the Turnbull government’s plan to wind back superannuation tax breaks for the rich.

Mr Hinch, who had a liver transplant five years ago, also said he wanted a compromise on the government’s construction industry watchdog, a ban on livestock exports and a million more organ donors.

Mr Hinch won a Victorian Senate seat in last month’s federal election, making him one of 12 crossbench senators the Turnbull government will have to court to pass bills spurned by Labor and the Greens.

He told AFR Weekend he got a lot of feedback on the super changes during the campaign “and if they say it didn’t affect their vote they are dreaming”.

The government wants to cap the super nest egg on which earnings for over 60s are tax free at $1.6 million, limit non-concessional contributions to $500,000 and cut the cap on annual concessional contributions for over 50s to $25,000 from $35,000.

The measures are aimed at reining in the budget deficit and defusing criticisms the super concessions favour the rich. But they were criticised for breaching a convention against retrospective legislation, and triggered a backlash among coalition supporters.
Fear of retrospectivity

“The thing that hurt them most was the fear of retrospectivity. I think that – rightly or wrongly – is what they fear the most,” Mr Hinch said. He said voters who did something five years ago in order to fund their retirement in 2025 didn’t like being told they had done the wrong thing.

Treasurer Scott Morrison this week offered exemptions for “life events” such inheritance and divorce payouts.

Katy Gallagher, shadow financial services minister, said Labor wanted to wind back costly super tax breaks for the rich and would work “constructively” with the government, but didn’t have any details.

On the Australian Building and Construction Commission, Mr Hinch said he didn’t want to “risk anything that will hurt workers but I also loathe corruption, so somewhere between those two we’ll work out where to go”.

The government wants to reinstate the ABCC to combat systemic corruption and illegal activity by construction unions and some employers uncovered by the trades union royal commission.

Mr Hinch wants to get a million more organ donors by changing the rules so that grieving family members can’t overrule a donor’s election. He said he expected live animal exports to be “the biggest battle” of the coming parliamentary term.

The livestock industry and nationals leader Barnaby Joyce – a staunch supporter of live exports – says monitoring of offshore slaughter has improved since the former Labor government slapped a shortlived ban on the trade in 2012. But Mr Hinch said “if you don’t know the Vietnamese are beating the poo out of cattle with a sledgehammer you can’t police it”.

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Reply #1 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 10:56am
 
"Mr Hinch wants to get a million more organ donors by changing the rules so that grieving family members can’t overrule a donor’s election. He said he expected live animal exports to be “the biggest battle” of the coming parliamentary term".

He's dreaming if he thinks Live Stock exports will ever be banned.

Buyers would simply source other countries willing to sanction their Live Stock export trade.

The superannuation issue is a non-issue for effecting hardly anybody who lives on Struggle Street in the Western Suburbs.

The Organ Donation issue has been done to death with government television promotions and mail-drops, and so he's flogging a dead horse there, and some people like myself are opting out of donating our organs after whistle-blowers have revealed the fact that it is far from being a painless and stress-free process to have your guts wrenched out of you in the operating room while you're still alive.

"If you are signed up as a donor, they cannot wait until you are dead to harvest your organs because after death, the organs may not be transplantable.  So they had to come up with a set of criteria for determining death which enables them to proclaim a living person dead so they can get the organs!

The problem is, when IS a person really beyond recovery?  People proclaimed hopelessly brain-dead have been known to revive and live a normal life! This is one reason why I am not an "organ donor".  That is, with a set of slippery rules for determining that a person still living is dead "enough" to get their organs, it's a no brainer that there will be some abuse!  I'd rather not go there, thank you".


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Reply #2 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 11:05am
 
Should be an opt out system for organ donation , not an opt in , the sky fairy believers can make a phone call or send an email if they believe their organs arent going to be anything but worm food
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Reply #3 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 11:12am
 
I go along with review of organ donors....

he claims family can over rule the dead persons wishes..

isnt that the same with writing a WILL.?

I have seen so many people challenge wills I have wondered what the hell is the point of writing one in the first place....

we have strange ideas.. a donor fills in a form saying please recycle my bits when I am dead...

a person write a will deciding who they WANT to inherit their worldly goods..

and along come a judge who doesnt know them from adam.. and changes it all...

what is the value of these bits of paper people fill in????>..

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Reply #4 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 11:28am
 
Its time wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 11:05am:
Should be an opt out system for organ donation , not an opt in , the sky fairy believers can make a phone call or send an email if they believe their organs arent going to be anything but worm food


There's a very high percentage of Chinese and Indian doctors here in Sydney these days, and who's to say they aren't selling people's organs to the restaurants for stir-fries and curries?

Last week I ordered a 'Combination Chilli with Boiled Rice' (#23 on the menu), and was presented with a meal that looked suspiciously like sliced-and-diced body parts from the local hospital.
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Reply #5 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 12:26pm
 
Thank you, I'll enjoy lunch now.

I'm torn on live exports. On the one hand, it upsets me to see them delivered into you know what slaughter. On the other, I know how much the farmers need it.
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Reply #6 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 12:49pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 12:26pm:
Thank you, I'll enjoy lunch now.

I'm torn on live exports. On the one hand, it upsets me to see them delivered into you know what slaughter. On the other, I know how much the farmers need it.





its about the only export we have...so its a bit of a fantasy dream...he thinks hes just thought of it.. Roll Eyes

we wouldnt be doing it if there was another way... we are not barbarians...

we have a few people going bonkers over the ban on greyhound racing......every excuse under the sun....

yet an ad on tv from the NSW govt says greyhound racing is only legal in 8 countries...

so these folks who depend on it. need to go into something else... just like those who have worked in the car industry all their lives and suddenly its gone....

they have to change course....

we sadly cannot be responsible for what other countries do.....and yes we have to live and eat as well...
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Reply #7 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 1:18pm
 
Live export is one aspect of the flawed mentality of exporting raw materials so others can process them. Other examples of this are exporting iron ore and exporting woodchips. Every time we do this, we are exporting jobs and opportunities to create wealth. We should be trying to add value in Australia so we can create more jobs and wealth here.
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Reply #8 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 1:32pm
 
We could export frozen beef/lamb etc. We've done it before. But the point is a lot of these people want to slaughter it in a particular manner and have it fresh.
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Reply #9 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 1:47pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 12:26pm:
, I know how much the farmers need it.


And yet Beef and Lamb is prohibitively expensive in Australia to the point us pensioners are eating less and less.

Some of us cant even afford a can of PAL these days?  Smiley
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Reply #10 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 2:04pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 12:26pm:
, I know how much the farmers need it.


And yet Beef and Lamb is prohibitively expensive in Australia to the point us pensioners are eating less and less.

Some of us cant even afford a can of PAL these days?  Smiley


You should give Aldi pet food a try. I find you develop a better class of bark with that.
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Reply #11 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 2:28pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 12:26pm:
Thank you, I'll enjoy lunch now.


It's only because the chef knows how to skin a cat and prepare it expertly that I patronise this Chinese restaurant at all, but otherwise I would remain faithful to my local McDonalds where the hamburger meat is the tastiest road-kill within 50 miles.   


bogarde73 wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 12:26pm:
I'm torn on live exports. On the one hand, it upsets me to see them delivered into you know what slaughter. On the other, I know how much the farmers need it.



Live Exports? - Okay, but only on the proviso that the abattoirs Over There are manned and supervised by Australians.
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Bam wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
Live export is one aspect of the flawed mentality of exporting raw materials so others can process them. Other examples of this are exporting iron ore and exporting woodchips. Every time we do this, we are exporting jobs and opportunities to create wealth. We should be trying to add value in Australia so we can create more jobs and wealth here.


Damn right - well said.

But I think the reason we don't sell value-added products to overseas markets is because our labour costs are uncompetitive.
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Reply #13 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 2:34pm
 
Redmond Neck wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 1:47pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 12:26pm:
, I know how much the farmers need it.


And yet Beef and Lamb is prohibitively expensive in Australia to the point us pensioners are eating less and less.

Some of us cant even afford a can of PAL these days?  Smiley


Try 'Whiskas' - I swear by it. Plenty of vitamins, proteins and minerals to supplement my daily dose of Viagra.  Smiley
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Reply #14 - Aug 15th, 2016 at 2:57pm
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 2:31pm:
Bam wrote on Aug 15th, 2016 at 1:18pm:
Live export is one aspect of the flawed mentality of exporting raw materials so others can process them. Other examples of this are exporting iron ore and exporting woodchips. Every time we do this, we are exporting jobs and opportunities to create wealth. We should be trying to add value in Australia so we can create more jobs and wealth here.


Damn right - well said.

But I think the reason we don't sell value-added products to overseas markets is because our labour costs are uncompetitive.

Not really. If we can leverage our reputation for producing high-quality food, labour costs won't matter. Do you know how much the Chinese are willing to pay for fresh Australian milk? The equivalent of about $9 per litre. Quality sells at a premium.
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