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More ALP internal conflict erupts
Jul 25th, 2016 at 10:37am
 
The swirling internal conflict and shouting in Labor is surreptitiously supporting the slimy Greenies' "policies".



Labor has 'resolved' immigration dispute
Updated: 9:47 pm, Sunday, 24 July 2016

Labor has refuted claims there are disputes within the party on immigration policy.

Newly appointed Shadow Immigration and Border Security Minister, Shayne Neumann, has told Sky News that all party members have agreed on the policy of offshore processing.


It comes only months after Labor's Melissa Parke, Lisa Singh, Sue Lines and Jill Hall all urged the party to allow the 850 asylum seekers on Manus Island to be processed onshore, with those adjudged to be refugees allowed to stay in Australia.

However, Mr Neumann says the party conflict has been 'resolved'.

'We have dealt with this issue a number of times in our last parliament.

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When you sign up to be a candidate for the Labor party you must abide by the party's policy,' he told Sky News.


Mr Neumann has also outlined some differences between the two major parties on immigration, saying there is a 'need for a more compassionate approach than the current government', to ensure people aren't languishing indefinitely in immigration centres.

'We never anticipated that Manus Island or Nauru would result in indefinite detention'

'We don't want people to be left in limbo', he said.

The new shadow minister has also said Labor wants to see an increase in the intake of refugees to up to 27,000 a year.


He also said Labor would back a plan for better engagement with refugee agency UNHCR, as well as adopt a policy of mandatory reporting of child abuse - citing the government's current 'lack of transparency' on the issue.

- See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/politics/federal/2016/07/24/labor-has--resolved--...
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Re: More ALP internal conflict erupts
Reply #1 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 11:40am
 
The furious infighting and playground scuffles continue apace in the totally messed up Labor Party.

Now it is a cover up of the pay cut.




Leigh plays down Labor reshuffle pay cut
Published: 10:16 am, Monday, 25 July 2016

Click to see video on Labor lying about pay cut
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http://www.skynews.com.au/news/politics/federal/2016/07/25/leigh-plays-down-labo...

Labor MP Andrew Leigh has insisted there are families worse off than him while playing down his appointment as an unpaid opposition frontbencher.

Dr Leigh, along with Sam Dastyari, will remain on a backbencher's salary of $199,000 despite being one of Labor's 32 shadow ministers - two more than can be funded under parliamentary rules.


'Let's not worry about people in the top couple of per cent of the income distribution. We're doing just fine,' he told ABC radio on Monday.

'There are families in Australia today that are struggling to afford to buy Christmas presents for their kids, struggling to afford to be able to get to the doctor, there's people who slept homeless last night.'

Dr Leigh, who is Labor's assistant treasury spokesman and spokesman for competition and productivity, and Senator Dastyari, were left out of the top 30 in a reshuffle unveiled by Opposition Leader Bill Shorten on the weekend.

The Canberra MP paid the price for a factional deal that enabled veteran senator Kim Carr to retain his place on the frontbench.

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- See more at: http://www.skynews.com.au/news/politics/federal/2016/07/25/leigh-plays-down-labo...
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Reply #2 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 12:05pm
 
Thru gritted teeth Leigh supports his beloved failed "Leader" who has just created the biggest stuff up of his "career" as he has thrown the pathetic ALP into turmoil and mayhem for the next 3 years and the next 3 years and....

Have a go at some COMMENTS:-

Hazzmat Jul 25 2016 at 10:28am
Bill Shorten. Still protecting workers' rights.

Piped Piper Jul 25 2016 at 10:51am
Leigh is one of the few talented non union affiliated MPs in the Labor party. No surprise to see him to get stiffed. They're lucky to have him.

Really Jul 25 2016 at 10:51am
Sounds like Shorten used the same negotiation strategy as he did with the Coles and the mushroom workers.

enough is enough Jul 25 2016 at 10:54am
Looks like not joining a Union faction cost him $40,000. What a complete mess this ALP shadow ministry has become. The backstabbing and vendettas will be on for young and old.

George Jul 25 2016 at 10:57am
Quotas and factionalism are the achillies of Labor. Ability does not come into play. Dr Leigh takes a pay cut for the filthy factions. Oh yes they have Australians as their number one concerns. And those Australians can be counted by looking at the shadow ministry. And by the way they are all from the "Big End of Town" when comes to income. Selfish hypocrites,the lot of them.



Labor frontbencher Andrew Leigh says he's 'doing just fine' after $40,000 pay cut
Fergus Hunter July 25 2016 - 9:44AM

Click to see video on Leigh thru gritted teeth clinging onto his position in the shattered ALP

http://www.smh.com.au/video/video-news/video-national-news/andrew-leigh-pay-cut-...

Labor's Andrew Leigh has sought to put positive spin on his $40,000 pay cut that resulted from factional manoeuvring in Bill Shorten's revamped shadow ministry.

Dr Leigh, who sits independently without a faction in the Labor caucus, was given increased responsibilities in the reshuffle on the weekend.

Bill Shorten gives the shadow assistant treasurer more responsibility but cuts his pay, to save Kim Carr. Courtesy ABC RN, Sky News.
As well as continuing as shadow assistant treasurer and opposition spokesman for competition, he picks up responsibility for charities and productivity.

But together with senator Sam Dastyari, the pair were victims of an arrangement that saw the shadow ministry expanded to keep Left faction heavyweight Kim Carr on the frontbench.

Mr Shorten, a long-term ally, retained him and expanded the shadow ministry to 32, but legislation only provides for 30 shadow ministry level salaries.

Dr Leigh says he feels extraordinary lucky to continue as a frontbencher and serve in the Parliament, dismissing the significance of the $40,000 pay cut.

"Frankly, the last thing we need to be worrying about in Australia right now is whether someone slipped from the top 1 per cent of income distribution to the top 2 per cent," Dr Leigh told ABC radio on Monday.

"There's families in Australia today that are struggling to afford to buy Christmas presents for their kids, struggling to afford to be able to get to the doctor, there's people that slept homeless last night.

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Labor MP Andrew Leigh is taking a pay cut under the extended 32-member shadow ministry. Photo: Alex Ellinghausen

"Let's not worry about people in the top couple of per cent of the income distribution – we're doing just fine."

Senator Carr was dumped by his own faction, who didn't put the veteran up for a frontbench position, so he broke off with three colleagues and demanded a spot.

Dr Leigh, who defended the idea of being an independent in the highly factional party, will now be paid $199,040 instead of the $238,848 for other junior frontbenchers.

"I feel extraordinarily fortunate to have the opportunity to be in Federal Parliament and more so still to be on Bill Shorten's frontbench. So I have no sense of disappointment about this," he said.

On the government's proposed high-end superannuation crackdown, Dr Leigh said Labor would support sensible measures but wanted an inquiry into whether the $500,000 lifetime cap on non-concessional contributions was retrospective or not.

"My view is that we do need an independent enquiry. Because there's been a a range of credible people who have said that these measures are retrospective. The government claims they're not but many of their own party room disagree," he said.

"We're inclined to support sensible measures that rein in the excesses in superannuation tax breaks. Labor began this debate last year when we put our proposals on the table and we've been constructive in working with the government."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/labor-frontbencher-andrew-...
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Reply #3 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 5:12pm
 
So is it more or less than the coalition internal conflicts?  No doubt that every organisation there are going to be internal conflicts.  I mean, Juliar's mind has many, if not more than the average schizo.
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Reply #4 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 9:40pm
 
Poor stunned is trying to sound intelligent again. Oh well at least you did try which is an improvement. Your parroting of lying Lefty propaganda needs a bit of work though.

But I find the searing HATRED expressed by poor Stunned truly inspires me to expose even more of the corruption in the DARK SIDE.

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Reply #5 - Jul 25th, 2016 at 10:14pm
 
If only Juliar actually read my posts, rather than "imagine" in that narrow, conflicted mind.  What propaganda is it, I wonder to state that all organisations have internal conflict.  But whatever, after all Juliar is probably pulling another tooth to put under the log (no pillow, can't afford one, when one is already living under the bridge) and hope the tooth fairy brings a few dollars.  Little does Juliar realise that under a coalition government, there are cutbacks to all services...
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Reply #6 - Jul 26th, 2016 at 12:20am
 
Oh poor stunned I can feel the heat of your BITTER HATRED from way over here.

Don't take it so personal, your DARK SIDE lost and that is that and they lost because they are unelectable.
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Reply #7 - Jul 26th, 2016 at 8:07am
 
More garbage from Juliar.  As usual.
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Reply #8 - Jul 26th, 2016 at 1:02pm
 
Don't worry poor stunny,

as time goes on U will get over it and find someone else to HATE.

U have that twisted type of personality that needs to HATE.
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Reply #9 - Jul 26th, 2016 at 4:42pm
 
More garbage from Juliar.  As usual.

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Reply #10 - Jul 26th, 2016 at 6:40pm
 
poor stunned,

is lost for words as a bit out of her depth and so she goes to the Lefties' last resort DENY IT ALL AND ABUSE THE POSTER.

Really shows great imagination and a dearth of ability. Typical dumbed down Lefty seething with HATE.

It would be no fun at all if I couldn't get a Lefty into a state of uncontrolled loathing and anger, truly inspiring.
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Reply #11 - Jul 26th, 2016 at 8:03pm
 
More garbage from Juliar.  As usual.
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Reply #12 - Jul 26th, 2016 at 8:29pm
 
stunspore wrote on Jul 26th, 2016 at 8:03pm:
More garbage from Juliar.  As usual.


I don't know where the hell he gets his material, but he needs a new
source.

He's neither funny nor factual.

Neither erudite nor entertaining.

Neither useful nor ornamental.

And neither here nor there.

And this 'Labor disunity' crap he keeps posting is patently baseless and
is, essentially, nothing but spam.
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Reply #13 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 7:43am
 
Well, as a personal opinion, who cares if the Labor Party are in absolute internal turmoil?  They aren't btw and are operating as a solid opposition - and we will see more of that as the Coalition settle into Government.   We had months of turmoil and leadership issues within the Coalition when they lost the 2007 election and it was just minor news.   

For Malcolm Turnbull to have to go to Pauline Hanson to see his Building deal go through the Senate is testament to looming failures to his Government , so I would worry more about that than any issues within the  Labor Party.     They can internally self destruct and rise again if necessary - as long as they stop the Coalition passing bills that are not in the interest of Australia that's fine by me.

As for Juliar, a poster who was a lot of fun during the election but sadly has deteriorated in style and substance.   I guess the pay-per-post rate has dropped and now it is grasping at straws.    Best left alone to start meaningless threads that no one bothers to respond to
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Reply #14 - Jul 27th, 2016 at 7:52am
 
When you sign up to be a candidate for the Labor party you must abide by the party's policy,' he told Sky News.




this says a lot to me...

you are not allowed to have an opinion..

now I guess we can understand why we get abused so much   for daring to disagree with a lefty..


if you dont agree its bare knuckles at dawn... Angry Angry Angry
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