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stryder
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Time for a new conservative party.
Jun 20th, 2016 at 10:00pm
 
Time for a new conservative party to rise out of somewhere, I'm not sure about this Australian liberty alliance party and whether they are worth a chance,

The liberal party has some leftie elements to it with which has turned me off completely from it. it seems it doesn't have any passion or will to represent some libertarian or conservative beliefs and values at all.

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Re: Time for a new conservative party.
Reply #1 - Jun 22nd, 2016 at 3:11pm
 
Australians generally are mildly left of centre in their viewpoints for the most part.   The Liberal Party represents that.  At the present moment it is largely under the control of what Maggie Thatcher used to call "the dries" as against "the wets".   I prefer the "wets".   They at least tried to be more human when they screwed over the voters for their rich piggy mates.   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Reply #2 - Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:30pm
 
I think it is best if the two major parties stay in control. The Australian political class are pretty worthless - but at least they have manged to keep our duopoly intact, unlike the worthless European political class with all of these loon European political parties like Golden Dawn, Syriza, National Front and Podemos.

I remember there was some talk of Bernardi heading a new conservative party and I think it is good that it didnt happen. It is bad enough having all of these independents making a mess of things. And people like Palmer and Katter and Xenophon and Hanson trying to start new parties.

What would improve things is if the political class stopped being such bed wetters, and if our media stopped being such trouble makers. Most Australians dont pay much attention at all to politics and there is no need to get so hysterical about everything.

Conservatives should support the Liberal Party and if they want it to be better then work to improve it - but it is a bad idea in my opinion to go away from the two major parties and break up the safe and reliable duopoly that has worked for so long because if it does break down God only knows what we will get but it is a good guess that it will be radicals of one form or another. We dont need radicals in Australian Politics.
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Reply #3 - Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:40pm
 
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Bernardi is already a bit of a loon but take him out of the Liberal Party and put him as head of his own Conservative Party and he would be completely unhinged. We need the Liberal Party to prevent radicals and loons from overrunning Australian Politics. So us conservatives need to support them. Even if they do have a so-called 'liberal' leader right now in Malcolm Turnbull.
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Reply #4 - Jul 16th, 2017 at 3:37pm
 
Looks like the Australian Conservatives are up and running. Do you still feel the same after Malcolm T's comments about the LNP not being conservatives?
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Reply #5 - Jul 20th, 2017 at 8:58pm
 
Where was the first one?
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Reply #6 - Aug 3rd, 2017 at 10:07pm
 
Why ? all a conservative party can do is offer the same old Austerity and failed trickle down economics.
The only hold they have is to offer small business a small tax cut and scare us about terrorists"

Most conservative supporters dont even know what conservatism is but if they are happy to go back to the 1800s then fine. Just remember no public healthcare etc back then.
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Reply #7 - Aug 3rd, 2017 at 10:42pm
 
stryder wrote on Jun 20th, 2016 at 10:00pm:
Time for a new conservative party to rise out of somewhere, I'm not sure about this Australian liberty alliance party and whether they are worth a chance,

The liberal party has some leftie elements to it with which has turned me off completely from it. it seems it doesn't have any passion or will to represent some libertarian or conservative beliefs and values at all.



The Australian Liberal party has been the least Liberal party in Australia for decades.

They don't have much of a left component at all, They span from middle right to wacky right.
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Re: Time for a new conservative party.
Reply #8 - Aug 4th, 2017 at 8:05pm
 
Spike4169 wrote on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 10:07pm:
Why ? all a conservative party can do is offer the same old Austerity and failed trickle down economics.
The only hold they have is to offer small business a small tax cut and scare us about terrorists"

Most conservative supporters dont even know what conservatism is but if they are happy to go back to the 1800s then fine. Just remember no public healthcare etc back then.


You're confusing libertarianism with conservatism.
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Reply #9 - Aug 5th, 2017 at 2:57pm
 
Culture Warrior wrote on Aug 4th, 2017 at 8:05pm:
Spike4169 wrote on Aug 3rd, 2017 at 10:07pm:
Why ? all a conservative party can do is offer the same old Austerity and failed trickle down economics.
The only hold they have is to offer small business a small tax cut and scare us about terrorists"

Most conservative supporters dont even know what conservatism is but if they are happy to go back to the 1800s then fine. Just remember no public healthcare etc back then.


You're confusing libertarianism with conservatism.

Culture warrior is full of it!
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Re: Time for a new conservative party.
Reply #10 - Aug 5th, 2017 at 10:53pm
 
WJV wrote on Sep 2nd, 2016 at 10:30pm:
I think it is best if the two major parties stay in control. The Australian political class are pretty worthless - but at least they have manged to keep our duopoly intact, unlike the worthless European political class with all of these loon European political parties like Golden Dawn, Syriza, National Front and Podemos.

I remember there was some talk of Bernardi heading a new conservative party and I think it is good that it didnt happen. It is bad enough having all of these independents making a mess of things. And people like Palmer and Katter and Xenophon and Hanson trying to start new parties.

What would improve things is if the political class stopped being such bed wetters, and if our media stopped being such trouble makers. Most Australians dont pay much attention at all to politics and there is no need to get so hysterical about everything.

Conservatives should support the Liberal Party and if they want it to be better then work to improve it - but it is a bad idea in my opinion to go away from the two major parties and break up the safe and reliable duopoly that has worked for so long because if it does break down God only knows what we will get but it is a good guess that it will be radicals of one form or another. We dont need radicals in Australian Politics.


Well it may have been good in 'the old days' before 2000.
But now both Parties are just so alike - its 'One' party and ain't Pauline Hanson happy with that, along with the fact that every State is almost the same these days, whereas before - they were distinctly different.

You do realise that if Australia seeks a Republic,
you will indeed get a breakdown of everything and these 'Independents' will be a reflection of various 'Provincials' in Australia (like Riverina, Gippsland, New England, St Vincent, Capricornia, etc) going 'Independent' as separate nations of their own accord.

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