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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #405 - Jul 1^st, 2016 at 10:32pm

moses wrote on Jul 1^st, 2016 at 4:51pm:

You have problems yes?

As an Agnostic, yes I do have problems with the claims surrounding Jesus Christ. I have seen numerous examples of what was taken as "Gospel truth" by multitudes of people about other historical events which were proved to be fabrications by dedicated historical research, Moses. I believe that there may have been no Christ. That "miracles" were attributed to him, without direct historical accounts by eyewitnesses to support their occurrence tends to put him into the "Saint George and the Dragon" class of event IMO. If you pare away the claims of miracles and divination you end up with a simple Carpenter who was a socialist in his outlook at a victim of Imperial Rome's policing of a troubled province, nothing more. Roll Eyes

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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #406 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 2:25pm

Do you have problems with teachings which state the highest grade of muslims must slay and be slain?

Do you have problems with teachings which state muslims can torture and kill apostates?

Do you have problems with teachings which state muslims may torture and murder a corrupter?

Do you have problems with teachings which state muslims may rape women as allah is forgiving?

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Reply #407 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 3:46pm

moses wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 2:25pm:

Do you have problems with teachings which state the highest grade of muslims must slay and be slain?

Do you have problems with teachings which state muslims can torture and kill apostates?

Do you have problems with teachings which state muslims may torture and murder a corrupter?

Do you have problems with teachings which state muslims may rape women as allah is forgiving?

Yes.

However, not all Muslims believe or do those things, Moses. Funny that... Roll Eyes

Do you have problems with bad Christians who tell lies, Moses? Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50566 At my desk.	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #408 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 5:35pm There is plenty of encouragement to slaughter the infidel in the Koran itself Brian. Show me a Muslim who doesn't believe the Koran.
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39227 Gender:	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #409 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 5:51pm freediver wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 5:35pm: There is plenty of encouragement to slaughter the infidel in the Koran itself Brian. Show me a Muslim who doesn't believe the Koran. There's plenty of encouragement to slaughter poofs in The Bible, freediver. Show me a Christian who doesn't believe The Bible.
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50566 At my desk.	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #410 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 6:05pm How do those verses in the Bible make Muslims disbelieve the Koran Aussie?
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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39227 Gender:	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #411 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 6:37pm freediver wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 6:05pm: How do those verses in the Bible make Muslims disbelieve the Koran Aussie? What a dumb question! Where did I say they did, freediver?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50566 At my desk.	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #412 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 7:13pm Why did you bring it up Aussie?
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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #413 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 7:25pm

Aussie wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 5:51pm:

There's plenty of encouragement to slaughter poofs in The Bible, freediver.

Show me a Christian who doesn't believe The Bible.

Christians are allowed to pick and choose which parts they follow Arsie.

Falah who posted in this forum said that is a major difference between Islam and Christianity as muslims are forbidden to pick and choose which parts of Islam they follow.
Allah says so right here-
quran.com/2/85

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Leftists and the Ayatollahs have a lot in common when it comes to criticism of Islam, they don't tolerate it.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50566 At my desk.	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #414 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 7:30pm I can show you plenty of Christians that reject the old testament. That's pretty much what Christianity is. Muslims reject both the old and new. But they do believe the Koran. Again, that's pretty much what Islam is.
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Reply #415 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 7:32pm

freediver wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 7:30pm:

I can show you plenty of Christians that reject the old testament. That's pretty much what Christianity is. Muslims reject both the old and new. But they do believe the Koran. Again, that's pretty much what Islam is.

Cherry picking. I don't accept any of it. Bible or Koran.

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50566 At my desk.	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #416 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 8:34pm Of course you don't accept it Aussie. You are not a Christian or a Muslim. You appear to even struggle telling the difference. The point is though that contrary to Brian's apologetics, Muslims do accept the Koran.
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Re: Muslims always tell us what they think
Reply #417 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 8:37pm

freediver wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 7:30pm:

I can show you plenty of Christians that reject the old testament.

Yet the Old Testament is included in every Bible, FD.

All the major churches accept the Old Testament, FD.

I assume that most Christians who are members of those churches accept the Old Testament as well, FD.

Whether they follow what the Old Testament claims is another thing.

Like most believers, I wonder how many have actually read it? I wonder how many Muslims have read the Q'oran?

There is a difference you realise in the level of belief that most followers of a religion might have? Roll Eyes

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Reply #418 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 8:38pm

freediver wrote on Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 8:34pm:

Of course you don't accept it Aussie. You are not a Christian or a Muslim. You appear to even struggle telling the difference. The point is though that contrary to Brian's apologetics, Muslims do accept the Koran.

And most Christians the whole bible, Old and New Testaments, FD. Roll Eyes

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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50566 At my desk.	Re: Muslims always tell us what they think Reply #419 - Jul 3^rd, 2016 at 8:38pm So you think most Muslims are only Muslims because they don't know what is in the Koran?
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