Gandalf do you think it would be in the Muslim community's own interest to find out what the AFIC is up to? Or cover it up?
Quote:What does any for-profit organisation do with their profits?
As I just finished explaining, for-profit organisations pay money out to the owners or shareholders. You have not demonstrated that this is what the AFIC did, or even that it is set up to do so. If a for-profit organisation did something welse with the money, the owners and shareholders would rightly demand an explanation.
Quote:Its not the issue FD,
It is. I think figuring out what the issue is is kind of critical to the issue, and your dedication to justifying ignorance is kind of disturbing.
Quote:translation: they are terrorist supporters by default, and its up to me to prove otherwise.
Let's start with whether you think it is important to find out what they are up to.
Quote:Tell me FD, would it make it any less immoral, do you think I'll have cause to be less outraged at AFIC if I could prove to you that they "legitimately" handed out their profits to their stakeholders?
I would expect you to be less outraged than if they gave the money to terrorists.
Quote:Goodness, who are these stakeholders FD?
Good question Gandalf. Who are they? Did you get a share of the profits from defrauding your own children of their education funds?
Quote:which segued almost seamlessly into his current crusade about 'you, muslim - why are you so keen to cover up possible crime??' - with the obvious connotations about stereotypical muslim 'hive-mind' behaviour.
Not only that, why are you reluctant to even acknowledge the importance of finding out what the AFIC was up to? Why do you refuse to discuss how understanding the motive or the number of people involved in past fraud might help you prevent it happening in the future? Does the deliberate ignorance of you and your fellow Muslims not simply guarantee the fraud will continue?
Quote:He is basically demanding that I demand a for-profit organisation justify
You have not dmeonstrated that it is a for-profit organisation. Can I buy shares and profit from the deprivation of Muslim children? As far as I can tell, you invented the for-profit organisation line early on in order to conflate business with religious organisations to maintain the line that this is all perfectly normal. As I recall, you insisted the church must have covered up child sex abuse in order to maintain shareholder ROI.
Quote:Apparently the purpose of the exercise is to prove to myself that, lo and behold, it was immoral (with bonus points for uncovering terrorist plots), thereby make me a little bit more angry about AFIC than I already am
If they actually were a for-profit organisation, why would you be angry with them?