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Jun 12th, 2016 at 8:14am
 
Orlando police ID man who killed 'Voice' singer Christina Grimmie.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/11/entertainment/orlando-christina-grimmie-shot/i...

Another innocent person killed by a mad man with a gun.



Orlando, Florida (CNN)Police in Orlando, Florida, on Saturday answered one of the major questions in the slaying of Christina Grimmie, the 22-year-old singer who made her name on NBC's "The Voice."
The man who shot and killed Grimmie was Kevin James Loibl, 27, of St. Petersburg, Florida, police said.
But they didn't give any background on Loibl or offer a possible motive.
The 22-year-old singer was signing autographs late Friday after a show at the The Plaza Live theater when a man approached and opened fire, police spokeswoman Wanda Miglio said. Grimmie was rushed to a hospital, where she died.

The madman:

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Reply #1 - Jun 12th, 2016 at 11:48am
 
Incredibly sad.
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Reply #2 - Jun 12th, 2016 at 11:53am
 
Murder is illegal in the USA they still have the death penalty for convicted murderers in some states.

What does this have to do with USA gun laws?
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Reply #3 - Jun 12th, 2016 at 12:11pm
 
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Between 1993 and 2000, the gun homicide rate dropped by nearly half, from 7.0 homicides to 3.4 per 100,000 people.

Despite these trends,most US adults think gun crimes have increased, in our 2013 survey more than half of Americans (56%) said the number of gun crimes had gone up compared with 20 years ago, Another 26% said the number of gun crimes remained the same, and just 12% said gun crimes had declined
pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/10/21/gun-homicides-steady-after-decline-in-90s-s...


Firearm homicides have halved in the USA since 1993, not many are aware of this fact.

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Reply #4 - Jun 12th, 2016 at 12:47pm
 
Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 12th, 2016 at 11:53am:
Murder is illegal in the USA they still have the death penalty for convicted murderers in some states.

What does this have to do with USA gun laws?



Madmen can get hold of guns.
Obviously the laws are not strict enough.
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Reply #5 - Jun 12th, 2016 at 12:51pm
 
They have that amendment in their constitution that says they are able to bare arms.

I wonder if you could let them bare arms , but ban ammunition and still be constitutional.

Of course no one would ever do that.
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Reply #6 - Jun 12th, 2016 at 1:13pm
 
NRA opposes expanding firearm background check systems, because background checks don’t stop serious criminals from getting guns and because NRA opposes gun registration.

https://www.nraila.org/issues/background-checksnics/

Clearly the NRA prefers to defend it's ideology rather than save lives
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Reply #7 - Jun 12th, 2016 at 1:32pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 12th, 2016 at 1:13pm:
NRA opposes expanding firearm background check systems, because background checks don’t stop serious criminals from getting guns and because NRA opposes gun registration.

https://www.nraila.org/issues/background-checksnics/

Clearly the NRA prefers to defend it's ideology rather than save lives


The USA has 3-4 times higher death rate from motor vehicles compared to firearm homcides, nobody talks about violating their 4th amendment rights to bring in Random Drug and Alcohol testing like we have to reduce road deaths.
RBT and drug testing violates their 4th amendment which is why they don't have it.

The USA would save far more lives by violating their 4th amendment rights.

New Zealand abolished long gun registration in 1982 the police said it cannot prevent or solve gun crimes, Canada abolished long gun registration after spending $2 billion on it saying it cannot solve or prevent gun crimes.
Canada and New Zealand abolished long gun registration yet the NRA get singled out for opposing what the Canadians described as a massive waste of money that could have been better spent putting more police on the streets.

Background checks don't stop criminals from getting guns, the Lindt and Parramatta- Paris shooters didn't have any trouble getting guns.

The Americans should enforce the laws they already have-
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California unable to disarm 19,700 felons and mentally ill people

California authorities are empowered to seize weapons owned by convicted felons and people with mental illness, but staff shortages and funding cuts have left a backlog of more than 19,700 people to disarm.
articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/29/local/la-me-California-guns-20130130



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Reply #8 - Jun 12th, 2016 at 3:54pm
 
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 12th, 2016 at 1:13pm:
NRA opposes expanding firearm background check systems, because background checks don’t stop serious criminals from getting guns and because NRA opposes gun registration.

https://www.nraila.org/issues/background-checksnics/

Clearly the NRA prefers to defend it's ideology rather than save lives



The Yanks are crazy - they have more guns than people -

over 300 million guns.
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Reply #9 - Jun 12th, 2016 at 9:58pm
 
miketrees wrote on Jun 12th, 2016 at 12:51pm:
They have that amendment in their constitution that says they are able to bare arms.

I wonder if you could let them bare arms , but ban ammunition and still be constitutional.

Of course no one would ever do that.


Lucky it's summer up there, I wouldn't bare arms here tonight.
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Reply #10 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 10:28am
 
Bobby. wrote on Jun 12th, 2016 at 3:54pm:
The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 12th, 2016 at 1:13pm:
NRA opposes expanding firearm background check systems, because background checks don’t stop serious criminals from getting guns and because NRA opposes gun registration.

https://www.nraila.org/issues/background-checksnics/

Clearly the NRA prefers to defend it's ideology rather than save lives



The Yanks are crazy - they have more guns than people -

over 300 million guns.




Mass Public Shooting in Florida occurred in ANOTHER gun-free zone:
50+ dead in a shooting at an Orlando nightclub


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Source: https://tinyurl.com/hkhebrp    Quote:
    The suspected, confirmed by his own word in a 911 call during the seige, Islamic extremist who killed about 50 people after taking party-goers hostage inside a gay club in Orlando has been identified.

    Law enforcement sources have identified the shooter, who was wielding an assault rifle and a handgun, as US citizen Omar Mateen, from Port St. Lucie in Florida.

    The gunman, who was born to Afghan parents, was carrying a suspicious device, possibly a suicide vest, when he opened fire on the dance floor inside Pulse in the early hours of this morning.

    At least 50 people were killed and 53 others were injured in the shooting in the deadliest mass shooting in US history. . . .

On Friday singer Christina Grimmie’s was murdered in a gun-free zone in Orlando. Early this morning, at least 50 people were fatally shot at an Orlando night club — also a gun-free zone.  In both cases the media has yet to report that these attacks occurred where general citizens couldn’t defend themselves.

Since at least 1950, only slightly over 1 percent of mass public shootings have occurred where general citizens have been able to defend themselves. Police are extremely important in stopping crime, but even if they had been present at the time of the nightclub shooting, they may have had a very difficult time stopping the attack. Attackers will generally shoot first at any uniformed guards or officers who are present (the Charlie Hebdo attack in Paris last year illustrates that point).  Alternatively, they will move on to another place without uniformed officers.

In this particular case the police only arrived on the scene after the attack occurred. That illustrates another point: it is simply impossible for the police to protect all possible targets.

It is hard to ignore how these mass public shooters consciously pick targets where they know victims won’t be able to defend themselves........
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50+ Americans might be dead today simply because they are law abiding......they didn't carry their lawfully permitted firearms within the club because the club was a "Gun Free Zone".

This Islamic Terrorist had firearms because he was a member of a high tech armed security firm, & he had a special firearm permit. What can't be understood is even though he was on the FBI WATCH-LIST....actively questioned at least twice (2x)....considered a possible Islamic threat, why did he still retain his permit.....why was he still permitted to keep his firearms.

I'm not saying how many lives would have been saved, but I'm sure that if those law abiding Americans had the choice to carry their permitted firearms in the club, they would have, & if they did the outcome might had been different.

Gun Free Zones Kill!


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Reply #11 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 10:31am
 
In times of insanity , perhaps what seems like insanity may be the answer.
Make sure people are allowed to carry guns
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Reply #12 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 10:51am
 
miketrees wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 10:31am:
In times of insanity , perhaps what seems like insanity may be the answer.
Make sure people are allowed to carry guns


In America, places where firearm laws are the most stringent, you will find they have the most violent firearm crime irregardless of the stringent anti-firearm laws.

Why, could it be because the criminals don't fear being opposed by armed civilians?.......I think it's a distinct possibility  probability.

Interviewed hardcore violent criminals, when asked what they fear the most, they say they don't fear the police, they fear ordinary armed people who would probably be less restrained from shooting them than cops.





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Reply #13 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 4:56pm
 
The NRA peddles guns on the basis that citizens need them to defend themselves.  That is obviously and clearly working ..... self evident, isn't it?
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Reply #14 - Jun 13th, 2016 at 5:05pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 13th, 2016 at 4:56pm:
The NRA peddles guns on the basis that citizens need them to defend themselves.  That is obviously and clearly working ..... self evident, isn't it?



& yet an insane terrorist had no trouble getting military weapons.
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