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Reply #135 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:24pm

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 5:43pm:

So codsy, close to two women a week are dying at the hands of their partners in Australia.

I understand you don't want to "throw money" at the issue. I have some sympathy for this stance. Whilst I'm not against a $30 tax per se, I distrust government to spend the money wisely and efficiently.

So my question to you is, how do you think this problem should be tackled? Because I've noticed your posting habits, and your mode of operation tends to be to lob spitballs (which is easy) rather than try and craft solutions (much harder).

So your solution please, codsy?

Cheers
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Yep.

Also Cods, it may very well be YOUR daughter, niece, grand daughter, female cousin, female neighbour, female friend etc who MIGHT be helped through this new tax funded program.

Still.....I can see why you're not happy about it all.

You're on a fixed income and you're well aware that these pollies waste our money no matter how they extract it from us.

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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #136 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:27pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:14pm:

Can't you guys see that we women nag because we care?

And it's a way of letting you know that we're not happy about something?

Babies cry....women nag. In BOTH cases, something's not right and you guys are being asked to LISTEN/HELP WORK IT OUT.

Is that asking too much Honky?

in that case we can argue that men hit because they care ... something is not right and you women are being asked to LISTEN/HELP WORK IT OUT

IS that asking too much?

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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #138 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:37pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:14pm:

... wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 5:11pm:

The response to every problem - real or imagined - is nag, nag, nag.

I could solve all of western womens woes with one easy step - changing their wi-fi password.

Can't you guys see that we women nag because we care?

And it's a way of letting you know that we're not happy about something?

Babies cry....women nag. In BOTH cases, something's not right and you guys are being asked to LISTEN/HELP WORK IT OUT.

Is that asking too much Honky?

Honky....I forgot to ask....how does she nag you?

I "nag" in a cute and cheeky way. Why? It gets the message through much easier/more effectively. Plus it diffuses any build up of negative energy.

Unfortunately Honky, it took a divorce and a 2nd marriage for me to finally realize the importance of HOW we talk to our husbands.

It's not just WHAT we say to them.

Oh and also...WHEN. Eg. Not when men come home after a hard day at the office and they're trying to get their business suit off. Let them have a shower, a cuppa, a kiss, and a cute and cheeky smile.

Even then, if you're a clever wife, you'll plan your attack AFTER dinner. Why? Well duh.....the way to a man's heart is through his tummy Tongue

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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #139 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:23pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:11pm:

Come on Aussie,
Nicole made an honest attempt to contribute to the debate - as I have.

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Thank you Bobby.

Incidentally, are you aware that boys/young men are falling behind girls/young women at school and university? Any thoughts on why this is? I have a boy, and I care. Are we stripping boys of their biologically driven imperatives? It's almost like we're feminising them.

Yes Nicole,
there is too much of a pro homosexual agenda at schools.
It's not right.

I've just worked out your other id. Grin

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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #140 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:38pm

Bobby......I usually stay out of trying to solve this, and if anyone has a magic bullet, they'd make a mint. No-one has a solution, as is quite obvious.

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No one has asked the obvious questions:

what can make a man so angry that he can hit his wife -
the mother of his beloved children?

Dunno.....but I'd conject that more often than not the victim is a provocative arsehole, and the attacker is a weak human being who has self control issues.

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How can such a situation arise? -

there must be deeper reasons.

That is stating the bleeding obvious.

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Why can people get so angry?

They get provoked, have no capacity to control their response unless they have a sociopathic blood lust.

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Did he have a shocking day at work where he was abused by his boss -
dealt with grid lock traffic -
& then came home to a bunch of screaming brat kids
& a nagging wife who is never happy no matter how hard he tries & works?

Why are you making this a gender issue?

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Something tips a man the perpetrator over the edge.

No sheet, Sherlock?

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I don't apologise for men like that but something is terribly wrong & needs fixing in relationships like that.

There you go again on the gender bias.

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Is it societies fault?

Let me know when you have the answer.

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Lisa Jones Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 39047 Sydney Gender:	Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence. Reply #142 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:46pm Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:28pm: mothra wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:16pm: I don't nag. I resent the stereotype. Agree. Not very clever then are you? I embraced the stereotype, deconstructed the stereotype and reinvented the stereotype.
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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #143 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:51pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:46pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:28pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:16pm:

I don't nag.

I resent the stereotype.

Agree.

Not very clever then are you?

I embraced the stereotype, deconstructed the stereotype and reinvented the stereotype.

Yes because no other vacuous bint has thought of being "cute and cheeky" (for crying out loud) when they want their partners to do something.

It's just most women have evolved beyond games.

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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #144 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:52pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:11pm:

Come on Aussie,
Nicole made an honest attempt to contribute to the debate - as I have.

forgiven

namaste

Her contribution contains severe and stark contradictions as is demonstrated by my comments in red. She is posting crap.

I am not against anyone having an opinion contra to member on here who seem to think otherwise..

I am against baiting people and making personal comments...I also dont like to see the homosexuals getting a mention in a topic like this..

I have and always will say D.V is on the increase it is much to our utter shame almost if not already at crisis point... Angry

for those who think I am having a heart attck about paying $30... then all I can say is you dont have good comprehension skills and I have no intention of spelling it all again just so you can go on the attack...I prefer to move on..

the point it what are we doing with this money and what good will it produce???..

we are dealing with a zillion complex human issues.. one size does not fit all..

yes I agree with Nicole control is an issue with some men and paranoid jealousy is an issue with some women...

I do have a grand daughter that sets herself up and her now two children in dodgy relationships... Roll Eyes

I dont need your concern over that lisa I do have first hand experience..

.....I have no choice but to deal with it... her latest partner is controlling...very...no he hastn touched her...but when you have children, the eldest 5 who has issues... even loud angry voices are disturbing...its all a mess actually...

what can I do.. bugger all really!

granddaughter wont listen to my advice she says one thing does the opposite..I wont walk away because of the children..however so far there is no violence but it doesn t mean it isnt a violent relationship..she has left him in the last few weeks. and got her own apartment.. and now I hear he has also moved in...yep everything is now in her name before he had the lease Roll Eyes

..

his mother is a shocker lives in Syd and rings him every day and calls my granddaughter all the names under the sun...so tell me hows this money going to help that situation that two little ones are caught up in????.......

.my experience for what its worth... is the real villains that need the sorting out only usually go to one session....

you cant make people change..... they can only make themselves change.....

in fact sometimes I think the more we do for them the less effort they think that have to do..

the govt does too much.....the family court is a shambles yes lisa I also know someone caught up in that... its the world today... your kids havent left home yet..

you have no idea whats ahead.

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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #145 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:12pm

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:23pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:11pm:

Come on Aussie,
Nicole made an honest attempt to contribute to the debate - as I have.

forgiven

namaste

Thank you Bobby.

Incidentally, are you aware that boys/young men are falling behind girls/young women at school and university? Any thoughts on why this is? I have a boy, and I care. Are we stripping boys of their biologically driven imperatives? It's almost like we're feminising them.

Yes Nicole,
there is too much of a pro homosexual agenda at schools.
It's not right.

I've just worked out your other id. Grin

I have only one ID - sir Bobby.

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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #146 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:16pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

Bobby......I usually stay out of trying to solve this, and if anyone has a magic bullet, they'd make a mint. No-one has a solution, as is quite obvious.

Quote:

No one has asked the obvious questions:

what can make a man so angry that he can hit his wife -
the mother of his beloved children?

Dunno.....but I'd conject that more often than not the victim is a provocative arsehole, and the attacker is a weak human being who has self control issues.

Quote:

How can such a situation arise? -

there must be deeper reasons.

That is stating the bleeding obvious.

Quote:

Why can people get so angry?

They get provoked, have no capacity to control their response unless they have a sociopathic blood lust.

Quote:

Did he have a shocking day at work where he was abused by his boss -
dealt with grid lock traffic -
& then came home to a bunch of screaming brat kids
& a nagging wife who is never happy no matter how hard he tries & works?

Why are you making this a gender issue?

Quote:

Something tips a man the perpetrator over the edge.

No sheet, Sherlock?

Quote:

I don't apologise for men like that but something is terribly wrong & needs fixing in relationships like that.

There you go again on the gender bias.

Quote:

Is it societies fault?

Let me know when you have the answer.

Good work Aussie.
Hardly any abuse there for me.

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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #147 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:47pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:12pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:23pm:

Mistress Nicole wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:11pm:

Come on Aussie,
Nicole made an honest attempt to contribute to the debate - as I have.

forgiven

namaste

Thank you Bobby.

Incidentally, are you aware that boys/young men are falling behind girls/young women at school and university? Any thoughts on why this is? I have a boy, and I care. Are we stripping boys of their biologically driven imperatives? It's almost like we're feminising them.

Yes Nicole,
there is too much of a pro homosexual agenda at schools.
It's not right.

I've just worked out your other id. Grin

I have only one ID - sir Bobby.

Okkkay.

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Re: a TAX will STOP domestic violence.
Reply #148 - Jun 9^th, 2016 at 7:51pm

cods wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:52pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 9^th, 2016 at 6:11pm:

Come on Aussie,
Nicole made an honest attempt to contribute to the debate - as I have.

forgiven

namaste

Her contribution contains severe and stark contradictions as is demonstrated by my comments in red. She is posting crap.

I am not against anyone having an opinion contra to member on here who seem to think otherwise..

I am against baiting people and making personal comments...I also dont like to see the homosexuals getting a mention in a topic like this..

I have and always will say D.V is on the increase it is much to our utter shame almost if not already at crisis point... Angry

for those who think I am having a heart attck about paying $30... then all I can say is you dont have good comprehension skills and I have no intention of spelling it all again just so you can go on the attack...I prefer to move on..

the point it what are we doing with this money and what good will it produce???..

we are dealing with a zillion complex human issues.. one size does not fit all..

yes I agree with Nicole control is an issue with some men and paranoid jealousy is an issue with some women...

I do have a grand daughter that sets herself up and her now two children in dodgy relationships... Roll Eyes

I dont need your concern over that lisa I do have first hand experience..

.....I have no choice but to deal with it... her latest partner is controlling...very...no he hastn touched her...but when you have children, the eldest 5 who has issues... even loud angry voices are disturbing...its all a mess actually...

what can I do.. bugger all really!

granddaughter wont listen to my advice she says one thing does the opposite..I wont walk away because of the children..however so far there is no violence but it doesn t mean it isnt a violent relationship..she has left him in the last few weeks. and got her own apartment.. and now I hear he has also moved in...yep everything is now in her name before he had the lease Roll Eyes

..

his mother is a shocker lives in Syd and rings him every day and calls my granddaughter all the names under the sun...so tell me hows this money going to help that situation that two little ones are caught up in????.......

.my experience for what its worth... is the real villains that need the sorting out only usually go to one session....

you cant make people change..... they can only make themselves change.....

in fact sometimes I think the more we do for them the less effort they think that have to do..

the govt does too much.....the family court is a shambles yes lisa I also know someone caught up in that... its the world today... your kids havent left home yet..

you have no idea whats ahead.

I'm sorry that you've gone/you're going through all that.

I think you're one very resilient and tough woman.

I admire such people.

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