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Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats
Reply #60 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:32pm

Kat wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:21pm:

crocodile wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

Kat wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 11:41am:

Its time wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 11:21am:

crocodile wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 11:14am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 10:57am:

Its time wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 10:52am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

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Is this the sort of industrial relations you want Mr Turnbull. Workers sacked for wearing stickers?. Sad

It may seem over-the-top, but it makes sense if you stop with the left-wing, everyone-hates-unions faux outrage and actually think about it. Those hard hats aren't usually painted black or other hard-to-see colours. They're usually white, orange or yellow so that the wearer is as visible on worksites as possible, just like wearing safety vests. When you start putting stickers all over the hats, they become less visible, placing the wearer in more danger. So this order is entirely justifiable.

https://2ecffd01e1ab3e9383f0-07db7b9624bbdf022e3b5395236d5cf8.ssl.cf4.rackcdn.co...

Its about being in a union and nothing else ,BECHTEL tried this on with us in 2010 but soon backed down

Sorry, no. Got nothing to do with Freedom of Association. No one is making workers end their Union membership. They're just being told to remove the stickers for safety reasons. I reckon this hat below has maybe four or five percent left that isn't covered by a sticker. Not much red left to be seen, is there???

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/2552398-3x2-940x627.jpg

Some of the insurers won't risk the glue used on the stickers affecting the plastic in the hat. Removing the stickers doesn't sound that onerous to comply with what seems to be quite reasonable.

All of ours have reflective tape on them and the clients logo, all stickers , is their glue different to union glue ?

Reflective tape is one thing, other stickers that have zero to do with improving the visibility of the hard hat wearer shouldn't even be on the hat.

Yes:
http://www.safetyshapes.com/media/helmet_reflect.jpg

No:
http://www.local79.org/wp-content/uploads/Local-79-member-with-many-stickers-on-...

Not your hat?

Then it's not your call.

Not your site either. Not your call.

Exactly. You work on someone's site that they're responsible, you follow their rules.

It is if you expect me to work there.

Now, get back in your boxes.

Explains why you're unemployed and unemployable.

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Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats
Reply #61 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:34pm

Kat wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 9:45am:

If the hard-hat was my personal property, as opposed to company-issued
(and mine is), I'd put whatever stickers I saw fit onto it (and have).

The only time an employer should have the right to complain is if the
stickers are offensive.

Union stickers are not offensive.

Good point. Workers should have to buy their own equipment if they want to deface company assets with commie propaganda....

Have you upgraded from fixing old malvern stars Katster?

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Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats
Reply #62 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:36pm

cods wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

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eah, I know, but like some dogs, you have to take some people through the lesson more than once.

If I'd had a couple of doggy-bix I would have offered him one as a reward

is it just me?.. but we see fairly reasonable thread destroyed by personal comments that have nothing whatever to do with the topic at hand..

why is that???...why is it people cannot discuss in a reasonable fashion when they disagree on something every thread ends up like this..

take a look at the comment above.. what on earth did Ap say to deserve that????..

nothing he said that I have read IS AS BAD AS THAT COMMENT.. its bad enough to be reported..

dont worry I wont,.. I will let the judges on the forum decide.. I know what I think..

AP whos name is armchair -Politician quite a reasonable name for this forum.. not armpit which the juveniles amongst us seem to relish as if it give AP hives or something..

' how about your forum members do a bit of growing up..

you bring down the level of this forum over and over again.... its isnt hard just treat people with the same respect you would like to be treated with...

and referring to others as if they are no better than a dog... just because you dont agree.. and just because you have the backing of the usual people who have nothing to add to a debate other than to bait the person who happens to be flavour of the day... Angry

someone accuses AP of never being on a construction site... wouldnt that apply to most on here???>... even more so in the last 5 or 6 years.....

we have a thread where a person was sacked for helping himself to the bosses coffee.. which wasnt supplied for him... he claimed they were friendly so he thought he had the right..

it was suggested that attitude was wrong no he didnt have the right to help himself..

surely the same approach is here.

the men were ona construction site.. something that they were only entitled to do if they were employed by the construction company..

and the company makes the rules...doesnt matter if its about coffee or stickers.. the company that owns the business makes the rules..and they say no stickers.. then that has to be it.. Roll Eyes

what is so hard about that?....

why does it have to turn into a DOG fight?. Angry

What bit are you objecting to, cods?

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Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats
Reply #63 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:39pm

Kat wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:27pm:

John Smith wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:23pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:19pm:

Its time wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:08pm:

Team Froggie wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:03pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 12:58pm:

Team Froggie wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 12:51pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

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Is this the sort of industrial relations you want Mr Turnbull. Workers sacked for wearing stickers?. Sad

It may seem over-the-top, but it makes sense if you stop with the left-wing, everyone-hates-unions faux outrage and actually think about it. Those hard hats aren't usually painted black or other hard-to-see colours. They're usually white, orange or yellow so that the wearer is as visible on worksites as possible, just like wearing safety vests. When you start putting stickers all over the hats, they become less visible, placing the wearer in more danger. So this order is entirely justifiable.

https://2ecffd01e1ab3e9383f0-07db7b9624bbdf022e3b5395236d5cf8.ssl.cf4.rackcdn.co...

Is that so???

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=industrial+hard+hat+images&biw=1366&bih=651&t...

Show me the bit where I said "only". Roll Eyes

Show me the bit where I said that you said "only".....

They're wearing high vis clothing so it's an idiotic argument anyway , our safety department wear the very blue helmets you posted up , armpit, you lose ,again .

How much of a high-vis vest do you think a crane operator sitting above the street can see, or workers a couple of floors up? Gawd, you're daft.

fawk you're an idiot .... crane drivers don't have to see the workers, that's what they have dog men for Cheesy

Gawd, I hope I never run into him on a site some day.

Might have to book my crew off for their own safety.

A wise decision , I have had few like Armpit on my crew who won't listen, don't get it, never will get it , I just tell them to go and sit in crib hut all day where they cant harm anybody , I can pick them within a few hours , they get bored quick and leave , or the project manager escorts them off site

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Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats
Reply #64 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:40pm

cods wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

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eah, I know, but like some dogs, you have to take some people through the lesson more than once.

If I'd had a couple of doggy-bix I would have offered him one as a reward

is it just me?.. but we see fairly reasonable thread destroyed by personal comments that have nothing whatever to do with the topic at hand..

why is that???...why is it people cannot discuss in a reasonable fashion when they disagree on something every thread ends up like this..

take a look at the comment above.. what on earth did Ap say to deserve that????..

nothing he said that I have read IS AS BAD AS THAT COMMENT.. its bad enough to be reported..

dont worry I wont,.. I will let the judges on the forum decide.. I know what I think..

AP whos name is armchair -Politician quite a reasonable name for this forum.. not armpit which the juveniles amongst us seem to relish as if it give AP hives or something..

' how about your forum members do a bit of growing up..

you bring down the level of this forum over and over again.... its isnt hard just treat people with the same respect you would like to be treated with...

and referring to others as if they are no better than a dog... just because you dont agree.. and just because you have the backing of the usual people who have nothing to add to a debate other than to bait the person who happens to be flavour of the day... Angry

someone accuses AP of never being on a construction site... wouldnt that apply to most on here???>... even more so in the last 5 or 6 years.....

we have a thread where a person was sacked for helping himself to the bosses coffee.. which wasnt supplied for him... he claimed they were friendly so he thought he had the right..

it was suggested that attitude was wrong no he didnt have the right to help himself..

surely the same approach is here.

the men were ona construction site.. something that they were only entitled to do if they were employed by the construction company..

and the company makes the rules...doesnt matter if its about coffee or stickers.. the company that owns the business makes the rules..and they say no stickers.. then that has to be it.. Roll Eyes

what is so hard about that?....

why does it have to turn into a DOG fight?. Angry

It's the lefty way, Cods. If you don't join a Union you're a scab. If you don't protest a war, you're a warmonger. If you don't agree with their point of view on race, you're racist. If you don't agree with them on gender issues, you're sexist. If you don't agree with them on global warming, you're a denier. Basically, if you don't conform to their ways and views, out come the knives.

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Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats
Reply #65 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:56pm

Kat wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:24pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:21pm:

crocodile wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

Kat wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 12:34pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 11:41am:

Its time wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 11:21am:

crocodile wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 11:14am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 10:57am:

Its time wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 10:52am:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 10:44am:

Quote:

Is this the sort of industrial relations you want Mr Turnbull. Workers sacked for wearing stickers?. Sad

It may seem over-the-top, but it makes sense if you stop with the left-wing, everyone-hates-unions faux outrage and actually think about it. Those hard hats aren't usually painted black or other hard-to-see colours. They're usually white, orange or yellow so that the wearer is as visible on worksites as possible, just like wearing safety vests. When you start putting stickers all over the hats, they become less visible, placing the wearer in more danger. So this order is entirely justifiable.

https://2ecffd01e1ab3e9383f0-07db7b9624bbdf022e3b5395236d5cf8.ssl.cf4.rackcdn.co...

Its about being in a union and nothing else ,BECHTEL tried this on with us in 2010 but soon backed down

Sorry, no. Got nothing to do with Freedom of Association. No one is making workers end their Union membership. They're just being told to remove the stickers for safety reasons. I reckon this hat below has maybe four or five percent left that isn't covered by a sticker. Not much red left to be seen, is there???

http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/2552398-3x2-940x627.jpg

Some of the insurers won't risk the glue used on the stickers affecting the plastic in the hat. Removing the stickers doesn't sound that onerous to comply with what seems to be quite reasonable.

All of ours have reflective tape on them and the clients logo, all stickers , is their glue different to union glue ?

Reflective tape is one thing, other stickers that have zero to do with improving the visibility of the hard hat wearer shouldn't even be on the hat.

Yes:
http://www.safetyshapes.com/media/helmet_reflect.jpg

No:
http://www.local79.org/wp-content/uploads/Local-79-member-with-many-stickers-on-...

Not your hat?

Then it's not your call.

Not your site either. Not your call.

Exactly. You work on someone's site that they're responsible, you follow their rules.

It is if you expect me to work there.

Now, get back in your boxes.

Good. It seems then if you don't like the rules then you're not expected to work there. Now get the bugger off of my site.

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats Reply #66 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 2:01pm Its time wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:39pm: I just tell them to go and sit in crib hut all day where they cant harm anybody ....next to you
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25115 Gender:	Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats Reply #67 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 2:18pm Swagman wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 2:01pm: Its time wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:39pm: I just tell them to go and sit in crib hut all day where they cant harm anybody ....next to you Explains how him and Kat are on here all day.
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Armchair_Politician Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25115 Gender:	Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats Reply #68 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 2:27pm They're just stickers, more-ons. No one is taking away your Union membership. Just take off the offending stickers. You'll still be the same law-abiding Union thugs.
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Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats
Reply #69 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 2:38pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 2:18pm:

Swagman wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

Its time wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

I just tell them to go and sit in crib hut all day where they cant harm anybody

....next to you Cheesy

Explains how him and Kat are on here all day.

PH over this way today , thoroughly enjoy getting paid for the day off , thanks unions

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Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats
Reply #70 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 4:43pm

Its time wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 2:38pm:

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 2:18pm:

Swagman wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

Its time wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

I just tell them to go and sit in crib hut all day where they cant harm anybody

....next to you Cheesy

Explains how him and Kat are on here all day.

PH over this way today , thoroughly enjoy getting paid for the day off , thanks unions

Ours is next week. God save the Queen.

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats Reply #71 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:06pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:32pm: Explains why you're unemployed and unemployable. Go and have sex with your wellie. Bet I've done more than you ever will.
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Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats
Reply #72 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:10pm

Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 2:18pm:

Swagman wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 2:01pm:

Its time wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 1:39pm:

I just tell them to go and sit in crib hut all day where they cant harm anybody

....next to you Cheesy

Explains how him and Kat are on here all day.

Says one who is never NOT on here.

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Kat Gold Member Offline Socialism IS the answer. Posts: 17709 Everywhere and no-where Gender:	Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats Reply #73 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 5:12pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Jun 6^th, 2016 at 2:27pm: They're just stickers, more-ons. No one is taking away your Union membership. Just take off the offending stickers. You'll still be the same law-abiding Union thugs. No. Fukya. They are not offensive, as I've explained more than once already.
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President Elect, The Mechanic Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 17501 Gender:	Re: Workers Sacked For Wearing Stickers On Hard Hats Reply #74 - Jun 6^th, 2016 at 6:25pm hard hats are PPE not a bloody fashion accessory... it just shows how out of touch some of these forum welfare bludgers are..
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