Cool stuff, Islam.

The ABC travelled to the town of Jantho in Aceh to attend a public caning and witnessed the corporal punishment of six gamblers, as well as that of

an 18-year-old woman who was convicted of being alone in her own room with her boyfriend.

This is classed as "adultery" in Aceh and is illegal under sharia law.
Kiranti looks down
Photo: Kiranti, 18, was convicted of being alone in her own room with her boyfriend. (ABC News: Adam Harvey)

The young woman, Kiranti, was forced to kneel on a stage in front of a large crowd to receive nine strokes of the cane from a hooded man known as Algojo — the "executioner".


http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-06-06/public-canings-on-the-rise-in-indonesia's-...

Poor girl.

I've had 8-of-the-best from a strong man wielding a long rattan, but this must have been a lot worse.

She'll know next time not to put herself in moral danger.

She's lucky she didn't actually sleep with this guy, otherwise it might have been stoning to death she received.

All good stuff, of course, otherwise gandalf wouldn't have made a conscious choice to register for membership with this religion.

I'm sure if we only knew what gandalf knows about Islam - we would ALL sign up for it just as he did.

It's only our ignorance that is keeping us dithering on the side-lines .... 

gee wizz - if they had sharia law in Australia 99% of all women would get the cane.

When the whole "death penalty for apostasy" thing tainted Malaysia's reputation as the go-to example for apologists, they fell back on Indonesia as a demonstration that Islam can co-exist with modern civilisation.

http://www.ozpolitic.com/wiki/index.php?title=Faith_Ratchet#Aceh

The spread of Islam west across North Africa and into Spain, as well as east to Pakistan, closely reflects the 'faith ratchet' presented here. Islam did however spread much further east, and today there are large numbers of Muslims in places like Indonesia and Malaysia. This eastern spread lacks the initial military conquest and 'top down' imposition of Islam that makes the current Western extent of Islam match the original Caliphate so closely. The more recent spread into Southeast Asia may be partly due to a clash of cultures in which Muslims from the west had more advanced technologies - similar to European conquest of the new world, but on a much smaller scale due to the less significant cultural differences. Islam has a much shorter history in the east than it does in the territory captured by the first Caliphate.

The spread of Islam without political imposition is not without doctrinal precedent. Muhammed's early career shows his effective promotion of Islam from a very weak political position. During this time Muhammed preached what could (very loosely) be described as pacifism and tolerance. Modern (and historical) Muslims that find themselves as small minorities tend to present this face of Islam. It was not until Muhammed gained unchecked power that the 'rape and pillage' aspects of Islam were revealed. There is clear doctrinal guidance for interpreting the apparent contradiction: the later, more violent aspects 'abrogate' (ie, replace) the earlier more tolerant aspects. Although the illusion of pacifism is shattered by terrorist attacks in the west, modern Muslims spreading Islam in the west employ many of the strategies used in Muhammed's early career, as did those who spread Islam east from Pakistan. Modern Muslims for example manage to claim victimhood status in the west despite the high death toll from their co-religionists.

Aceh province in Indonesia is a good example of this process. Aceh was the first place that Muslims settled in South East Asia. Although modern Aceh is associated with violent Islamic separatist movements and one of the most traditional and conservative Islamic societies, it was originally settled by Sufi Muslims. Sufism is the 'inner, mystical dimension' of Islam. Sufis are generally regarded as more peaceful and tolerant - almost the 'Hare Krishna' version of Islam (with some notable exceptions http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1459123428). It is ironic then that today, Sufis in Aceh face the dual threat of bans on their schools (and the basis of blasphemy) and terrorist attacks http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1456110277/25#25.

Mattyfisk wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 1:06pm:


Nonsense. They want to lop people's heads off and/or stone them to death.

And FD has the survey to prove it.

polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 7^th, 2016 at 1:51pm:


Ah yes - as long as we only reference the bit on cute and cuddly Malaysia.

As for Malaysia being a beacon of modern thinking:

These date back to 2010 2011, however I doubt things have improved.


Islam in Malaysia ‘sliding towards fundamentalism and violence’, expert says

From Syria to Iraq, Kenya to Malaysia: How new era of Islamic fundamentalism is spreading fear and chaos around the world

Rise of strict Islam exposes tensions in Malaysia

Effect Of Rise in Islamic Fundamentalism In Malaysia

Is there any reason you can’t post any current evidence that they do?