Aussie wrote on Jun 18
th, 2016 at 2:41pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 18
th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
Where did Gandalf describe it as a trial?
Where did Gandalf describe it as a finding of guilt?
Where did Gandalf describe it as a mob?
Back on that page where Post # 258 is. You can see there, even you mentioned there being a Trial. Gandalf's full comment was this:
Quote:It was part of the negotiations while they were under siege. Muhammad offered to judge them under jewish law, and the Quraysh agreed - but insisted that only on the condition that the judgement was administered by their allies - the Bani Aws. Muhammad agreed. So in fact it was a Quraysh demand, which Muhammad agreed to for the sake of a speedy resolution. You of course would know this, because its cited in the same article you just linked. Funny how you didn't mention this little detail.
What is the point of all this, freediver?
Gandalf did not use the word trial, because there was no trial.
Gandalf did not refer to a finding of guilt, because there was none.
Gandalf did not describe it as a mob, because Muhammed was in direct control of the whole thing.
The only thing that was decided was the punishment, and who had to physically do the head lopping. Muhammed did not hand them over to the mob, Pilate style. The 'mob' actually pleaded with Muhammed not to slaughter them all. Muhammed refused their request.