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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #270 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 1:32pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 1:28pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 1:24pm:
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but is too cowardly to own it when pressed


Were they treacherous Jews Gandalf?


you don't want to go down that road FD, but its rather endearing that you think an academic debate about the rights or wrongs of a mass execution 1400 years ago is comparable to making cowardly threats to a muslim community that exists today ...

do you regret stating as fact that government funds to Islamic schools went to terrorists? Take your time.


Would you prefer we made it an academic debate over whether to slaughter Muslims for being a mindless collective of fifth column jihadists? No complaints then?
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Reply #271 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 1:35pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 10:14am:
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No.......according to some Tooth Fairy myth, some alleged Judge allegedly convicted and allegedly sentenced them to alleged death, and they were thus allegedly executed.


He was not a judge in any sense of the word, and it was not a trial in any sense of the word. According to Gandalf, all 800 of them deserved to die in the interests of a swift resolution and the establishment of Muhammed's Islamic State. There is nothing "alleged" about this Aussie. His words are right here for you to see.


That is not what he said at all.
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Reply #272 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 1:50pm
 
I'm happy to provide a quote Aussie if you can be a bit more specific about which part you think he didn't say.
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Reply #273 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 1:52pm
 
FD in the other thread demanding answers from me about where the public funds intended for Malek Fahd school went, and when I'll find out... cause, you know, since muslims are all the same, and all of one mind, naturally I know everything about that.

Apparently FD made these demands without any sense of irony.
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Reply #274 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:13pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 1:50pm:
I'm happy to provide a quote Aussie if you can be a bit more specific about which part you think he didn't say.


This bit.  I did highlight it for you.

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According to Gandalf, all 800 of them deserved to die in the interests of a swift resolution and the establishment of Muhammed's Islamic State.

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Reply #275 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:17pm
 
OMG, he's actually saying that

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Reply #276 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:22pm
 
It's on the previous page Aussie. You even responded directly to it - post #258.
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Reply #277 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:26pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:22pm:
It's on the previous page Aussie. You even responded directly to it - post #258.


This is what he said:

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.....and the Quraysh agreed - but insisted that only on the condition that the judgement was administered by their allies - the Bani Aws. Muhammad agreed. So in fact it was a Quraysh demand, which Muhammad agreed to for the sake of a speedy resolution


Which is not this:

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According to Gandalf, all 800 of them deserved to die in the interests of a swift resolution and the establishment of Muhammed's Islamic State.

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Reply #278 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:28pm
 
My mistake. I said swift resolution, when Gandalf actually said speedy resolution. Well done Aussie, you got me there. 800 innocent people slaughtered in the interests of a speedy resolution.

Nice.
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Reply #279 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:28pm
 
True,.Aussie, but you must admit that someone is spreading this vile wacist propagada.

If not G, who?
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Reply #280 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:33pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:28pm:
My mistake. I said swift resolution, when Gandalf actually said speedy resolution. Well done Aussie, you got me there. 800 innocent people slaughtered in the interests of a speedy resolution.

Nice.


No.  According to Gandalf, Mo allegedly agreed to some alleged suggestion that some alleged Mob conduct a Trial, and if there was a finding of guilt, then the sentence and execution of it would be in the hands of that alleged Mob.  (A Pontius Pilate  sort of thing.)
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Reply #281 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:37pm
 
Where did Gandalf describe it as a trial?

Where did Gandalf describe it as a finding of guilt?

Where did Gandalf describe it as a mob?
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Reply #282 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:41pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
Where did Gandalf describe it as a trial?

Where did Gandalf describe it as a finding of guilt?

Where did Gandalf describe it as a mob?


Back on that page where Post # 258 is.  You can see there, even you mentioned there being a Trial.  Gandalf's full comment was this:

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It was part of the negotiations while they were under siege. Muhammad offered to judge them under jewish law, and the Quraysh agreed - but insisted that only on the condition that the judgement was administered by their allies - the Bani Aws. Muhammad agreed. So in fact it was a Quraysh demand, which Muhammad agreed to for the sake of a speedy resolution. You of course would know this, because its cited in the same article you just linked. Funny how you didn't mention this little detail.


What is the point of all this, freediver?
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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #283 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:45pm
 
freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
Where did Gandalf describe it as a trial?

Where did Gandalf describe it as a finding of guilt?

Where did Gandalf describe it as a mob?


When did he describe them as a mindless collective?
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Re: a mindless collective of treacherous Jews
Reply #284 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:49pm
 
Aussie wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:41pm:
freediver wrote on Jun 18th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
Where did Gandalf describe it as a trial?

Where did Gandalf describe it as a finding of guilt?

Where did Gandalf describe it as a mob?


Back on that page where Post # 258 is.  You can see there, even you mentioned there being a Trial.  Gandalf's full comment was this:

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It was part of the negotiations while they were under siege. Muhammad offered to judge them under jewish law, and the Quraysh agreed - but insisted that only on the condition that the judgement was administered by their allies - the Bani Aws. Muhammad agreed. So in fact it was a Quraysh demand, which Muhammad agreed to for the sake of a speedy resolution. You of course would know this, because its cited in the same article you just linked. Funny how you didn't mention this little detail.


What is the point of all this, freediver?


Gandalf did not use the word trial, because there was no trial.

Gandalf did not refer to a finding of guilt, because there was none.

Gandalf did not describe it as a mob, because Muhammed was in direct control of the whole thing.

The only thing that was decided was the punishment, and who had to physically do the head lopping. Muhammed did not hand them over to the mob, Pilate style. The 'mob' actually pleaded with Muhammed not to slaughter them all. Muhammed refused their request.
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