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Can magic mushrooms treat depression?
May 17^th, 2016 at 9:39pm

Magic mushrooms lift severe depression in clinical trial
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Magic mushrooms have lifted severe depression in a dozen volunteers in a clinical trial, raising scientists’ hopes that the psychedelic experiences beloved of the Aztecs and the hippy counter-culture of the 1970s could one day become mainstream medicine.

A clinical trial, which took years and significant money to complete due to the stringent regulatory restrictions imposed around the class 1 drug, has found that two doses of psilocybin, the active substance in the mushrooms, was sufficient to lift resistant depression in all 12 volunteers for three weeks, and to keep it away in five of them for three months.

The size of the trial and the absence of any placebo means the research, funded by the Medical Research Council and published in the Lancet Psychiatry journal (pdf), is a proof of principle only.

The scientists, from Imperial College London, said they hoped the results would encourage the MRC or other funders to put up the money needed for a full trial. However, the use of a placebo control, comparing those who use the drug with those who do not, will always be difficult, because it will be obvious who is having a psychedelic experience.

In spite of the outcome, the researchers urged people not to try magic mushrooms themselves.

The lead author, Dr Robin Carhart-Harris, said: “Psychedelic drugs have potent psychological effects and are only given in our research when appropriate safeguards are in place, such as careful screening and professional therapeutic support.

“I wouldn’t want members of the public thinking they can treat their own depressions by picking their own magic mushrooms. That kind of approach could be risky.”

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Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 87687 Always was always will be HOME Gender:	Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression? Reply #1 - May 17^th, 2016 at 10:55pm They can be a good cure for sanity........
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression? Reply #3 - May 17^th, 2016 at 11:18pm I took Psilocybin Mushrooms several times last year. One of those experiences was ... there aren't words that can really describe it ... it was incredibly helpful.
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Reply #4 - May 17^th, 2016 at 11:20pm

Not sure about magic mushies but there is some ongoing research into the positive effects of MDMA / ecstasy in treating depression and also PTSD.

I'm more interested in the actual cause of depression more so than the cure, where does depression come from, almost all of our actions are evolutionary in nature but where does depression fit into this big picture, what is the evolutionary advantage of depression, why does depression exist, what evolutionary advantage or disadvantage does it provide.

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Reply #6 - May 17^th, 2016 at 11:23pm

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:20pm:

Not sure about magic mushies but there is some ongoing research into the positive effects of MDMA / ecstasy in treating depression and also PTSD.

I'm more interested in the actual cause of depression more so than the cure, where does depression come from, almost all of our actions are evolutionary in nature but where does depression fit into this big picture, what is the evolutionary advantage of depression, why does depression exist, what evolutionary advantage or disadvantage does it provide.

I've also read a paper about evolutionary advantages to having a % of the population homosexual.

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Reply #7 - May 17^th, 2016 at 11:26pm

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:20pm:

Not sure about magic mushies but there is some ongoing research into the positive effects of MDMA / ecstasy in treating depression and also PTSD.

I'm more interested in the actual cause of depression more so than the cure, where does depression come from, almost all of our actions are evolutionary in nature but where does depression fit into this big picture, what is the evolutionary advantage of depression, why does depression exist, what evolutionary advantage or disadvantage does it provide.

I've also read a paper about evolutionary advantages to having a % of the population homosexual.

An unusually high percentage of that population is right here at OP. There must be some evolutionary advantages to that as well.

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Reply #8 - May 17^th, 2016 at 11:32pm

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:20pm:

Not sure about magic mushies but there is some ongoing research into the positive effects of MDMA / ecstasy in treating depression and also PTSD.

I'm more interested in the actual cause of depression more so than the cure, where does depression come from, almost all of our actions are evolutionary in nature but where does depression fit into this big picture, what is the evolutionary advantage of depression, why does depression exist, what evolutionary advantage or disadvantage does it provide.

I've also read a paper about evolutionary advantages to having a % of the population homosexual.

Evolution is constantly throwing out new scenarios just in case they work, homos, pedos, muslims, leftards, the list is endless, mother nature, cruel and heartless bitch that she is introduces all of these pathways and then leaves it to the rest of us to fight it out in order to decide which one is the one true path.

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Reply #9 - May 17^th, 2016 at 11:36pm

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:32pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:23pm:

innocentbystander. wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:20pm:

Not sure about magic mushies but there is some ongoing research into the positive effects of MDMA / ecstasy in treating depression and also PTSD.

I'm more interested in the actual cause of depression more so than the cure, where does depression come from, almost all of our actions are evolutionary in nature but where does depression fit into this big picture, what is the evolutionary advantage of depression, why does depression exist, what evolutionary advantage or disadvantage does it provide.

I've also read a paper about evolutionary advantages to having a % of the population homosexual.

Evolution is constantly throwing out new scenarios just in case they work, homos, pedos, muslims, leftards, the list is endless, mother nature, cruel and heartless bitch that she is introduces all of these pathways and then leaves it to the rest of us to fight it out in order to decide which one is the one true path.

Have a read about evolutionary advantage and homosexuals. Interesting. It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks.

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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression? Reply #10 - May 17^th, 2016 at 11:44pm GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:36pm: It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks. You say that but several members here were never the same after they watched Brokeback Mountain ...
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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36060 Gender:	Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression? Reply #11 - May 17^th, 2016 at 11:47pm All tribal societies have had psychotropics. It's part of our DNA.
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Ashley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 526	Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression? Reply #12 - May 17^th, 2016 at 11:49pm mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:47pm: All tribal societies have had psychotropics. It's part of our DNA. Rubbish.
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Ashley Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 526	Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression? Reply #13 - May 17^th, 2016 at 11:50pm AiA wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:44pm: GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:36pm: It's ok to understand it, you won't suddenly get the urge to Suck cocks. You say that but several members here were never the same after they watched Brokeback Mountain ... Greg ?
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AiA Gold Member Offline Posts: 18405 Gender:	Re: Can magic mushrooms treat depression? Reply #14 - May 17^th, 2016 at 11:50pm Ashley wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:49pm: mothra wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 11:47pm: All tribal societies have had psychotropics. It's part of our DNA. Rubbish. even animals have been observed eating psychotropics in the wild ...
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