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Reply #60 - May 17^th, 2016 at 2:15pm

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Storm wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

But the chop chop stuff is taught in sydney mosques karnal.

It most certainly is not, as every Muslim will tell you.

The chop chop stuff is taught online, according to Muslim leaders, by Shiek Google.

Is this a rerun of apologism 101? You have never personally heard of chop chop being taught in Sydney mosques so it doesn't happen?

Karnal wrote on May 13^th, 2016 at 10:03am:

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Karnal wrote on May 11^th, 2016 at 11:04pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 11^th, 2016 at 9:10pm:

Karnal wrote on May 11^th, 2016 at 9:04pm:

I most certainly do, Secret, but that’s just me.

I’m an.Apologist . Every Muslim.I’ve discussed Jihad with says just that.

Feel free to disagree.

I don't disagree, apologists will emphasise the inner struggle bit ignoring or preferring not to mention that many of the brothers mean jihad to kill kaffur.

Which brothers, Secret? I haven’t met any. You?

Rigggghnhhtt. Apologism 101. Ignore inconvenient truths by appealing to a personal anecdote. You have never personally heard any Islamists interpreting jihad to mean an armed struggle so therefore in your mind it doesn't happen.

Exactly. Every Muselman I've ever discussed this with emphasize the inner struggle. The Jihadist knuckleheads exist, but they're not following the right path.

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Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Q&A tonight
Reply #61 - May 17^th, 2016 at 2:21pm

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Storm wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

But the chop chop stuff is taught in sydney mosques karnal.

It most certainly is not, as every Muslim will tell you.

The chop chop stuff is taught online, according to Muslim leaders, by Shiek Google.

Is this a rerun of apologism 101? You have never personally heard of chop chop being taught in Sydney mosques so it doesn't happen?

Exactly. Every Australian Muslim who's ever spoken out on this issue says the same. Australian mosques are conservative. They almost never stray into politics.

I'll let you know if I hear differently, or you can let me know.

Agreed?

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Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Q&A tonight
Reply #62 - May 17^th, 2016 at 2:26pm

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Storm wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

But the chop chop stuff is taught in sydney mosques karnal.

It most certainly is not, as every Muslim will tell you.

The chop chop stuff is taught online, according to Muslim leaders, by Shiek Google.

Is this a rerun of apologism 101? You have never personally heard of chop chop being taught in Sydney mosques so it doesn't happen?

Exactly. Every Australian Muslim who's ever spoken out on this issue says the same. Australian mosques are conservative. They almost never stray into politics.

I'll let you know if I hear differently, or you can let me know.

Agreed?

Chop chop is politics? I stand corrected, from context I took it to be you know, head lopping kaffur, shooting kaffur, blowing up kaffur, the brothers doing jihad all wrong. Grin

Whch you had also never heard of. Roll Eyes

But no, it's politics and you have never heard politics being discussed in a mosque so therefore....it never happens.

Remarkable.

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Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Q&A tonight
Reply #63 - May 17^th, 2016 at 2:28pm

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Storm wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

But the chop chop stuff is taught in sydney mosques karnal.

It most certainly is not, as every Muslim will tell you.

The chop chop stuff is taught online, according to Muslim leaders, by Shiek Google.

Is this a rerun of apologism 101? You have never personally heard of chop chop being taught in Sydney mosques so it doesn't happen?

Exactly. Every Australian Muslim who's ever spoken out on this issue says the same. Australian mosques are conservative. They almost never stray into politics.

I'll let you know if I hear differently, or you can let me know.

Agreed?

Nope, got any links ?

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Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Q&A tonight
Reply #64 - May 17^th, 2016 at 2:40pm

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Storm wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

But the chop chop stuff is taught in sydney mosques karnal.

It most certainly is not, as every Muslim will tell you.

The chop chop stuff is taught online, according to Muslim leaders, by Shiek Google.

Is this a rerun of apologism 101? You have never personally heard of chop chop being taught in Sydney mosques so it doesn't happen?

Exactly. Every Australian Muslim who's ever spoken out on this issue says the same. Australian mosques are conservative. They almost never stray into politics.

I'll let you know if I hear differently, or you can let me know.

Agreed?

Chop chop is politics? I stand corrected, from context I took it to be you know, head lopping kaffur, shooting kaffur, blowing up kaffur, the brothers doing jihad all wrong. Grin

Whch you had also never heard of. Roll Eyes

But no, it's politics and you have never heard politics being discussed in a mosque so therefore....it never happens.

Remarkable.

Chop chop is not taught in Australian mosques, Secret. If it was, it would be inciting violence and a criminal matter.

I'm not even getting into chop chop, I'm talking about violent jihad, which is never taught in Australian mosques. Mosques are as conservative (or as liberal) as the Uniting church. They preach on prayer, fasting at Ramadan, doing the Haj, and giving alms to the poor. You will never hear a radical message coming out of an Australian mosque. From what I hear, they're quite boring and conventional.

I'm sorry if this disappoints, but if I was you, I'd feel relieved.

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Storm Senior Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 350 Gender:	Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Q&A tonight Reply #65 - May 17^th, 2016 at 2:45pm Chop chop is taught in Australian Mosques. And you have no links as requested, Karnal/Gordy says so, so we must believe a muslim Hilarious stuff.
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Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Q&A tonight
Reply #67 - May 17^th, 2016 at 4:02pm

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Storm wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

But the chop chop stuff is taught in sydney mosques karnal.

It most certainly is not, as every Muslim will tell you.

The chop chop stuff is taught online, according to Muslim leaders, by Shiek Google.

Is this a rerun of apologism 101? You have never personally heard of chop chop being taught in Sydney mosques so it doesn't happen?

Exactly. Every Australian Muslim who's ever spoken out on this issue says the same. Australian mosques are conservative. They almost never stray into politics.

I'll let you know if I hear differently, or you can let me know.

Agreed?

Chop chop is politics? I stand corrected, from context I took it to be you know, head lopping kaffur, shooting kaffur, blowing up kaffur, the brothers doing jihad all wrong. Grin

Whch you had also never heard of. Roll Eyes

But no, it's politics and you have never heard politics being discussed in a mosque so therefore....it never happens.

Remarkable.

Chop chop is not taught in Australian mosques, Secret. If it was, it would be inciting violence and a criminal matter.

I'm not even getting into chop chop, I'm talking about violent jihad, which is never taught in Australian mosques. Mosques are as conservative (or as liberal) as the Uniting church. They preach on prayer, fasting at Ramadan, doing the Haj, and giving alms to the poor. You will never hear a radical message coming out of an Australian mosque. From what I hear, they're quite boring and conventional.

I'm sorry if this disappoints, but if I was you, I'd feel relieved.

The gun which killed Curtis Cheng was most likely handed over in Para Mosque, and Para Mosque has been linked to some very unsavory characters.

Never say never.

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Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Q&A tonight
Reply #68 - May 17^th, 2016 at 4:14pm

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:02pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Storm wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

But the chop chop stuff is taught in sydney mosques karnal.

It most certainly is not, as every Muslim will tell you.

The chop chop stuff is taught online, according to Muslim leaders, by Shiek Google.

Is this a rerun of apologism 101? You have never personally heard of chop chop being taught in Sydney mosques so it doesn't happen?

Exactly. Every Australian Muslim who's ever spoken out on this issue says the same. Australian mosques are conservative. They almost never stray into politics.

I'll let you know if I hear differently, or you can let me know.

Agreed?

Chop chop is politics? I stand corrected, from context I took it to be you know, head lopping kaffur, shooting kaffur, blowing up kaffur, the brothers doing jihad all wrong. Grin

Whch you had also never heard of. Roll Eyes

But no, it's politics and you have never heard politics being discussed in a mosque so therefore....it never happens.

Remarkable.

Chop chop is not taught in Australian mosques, Secret. If it was, it would be inciting violence and a criminal matter.

I'm not even getting into chop chop, I'm talking about violent jihad, which is never taught in Australian mosques. Mosques are as conservative (or as liberal) as the Uniting church. They preach on prayer, fasting at Ramadan, doing the Haj, and giving alms to the poor. You will never hear a radical message coming out of an Australian mosque. From what I hear, they're quite boring and conventional.

I'm sorry if this disappoints, but if I was you, I'd feel relieved.

The gun which killed Curtis Cheng was most likely handed over in Para Mosque, and Para Mosque has been linked to some very unsavory characters.

Never say never.

It may well be, Gordy, it may well be.

However, the Parramatta Mosque most certainly does not preach violence, and they don't have metal detectors to find weapons.

It is simply, as you suggest, a meeting place for some rather unsavory characters.

Sinister, no?

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Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Q&A tonight
Reply #69 - May 17^th, 2016 at 4:27pm

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:02pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Storm wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

But the chop chop stuff is taught in sydney mosques karnal.

It most certainly is not, as every Muslim will tell you.

The chop chop stuff is taught online, according to Muslim leaders, by Shiek Google.

Is this a rerun of apologism 101? You have never personally heard of chop chop being taught in Sydney mosques so it doesn't happen?

Exactly. Every Australian Muslim who's ever spoken out on this issue says the same. Australian mosques are conservative. They almost never stray into politics.

I'll let you know if I hear differently, or you can let me know.

Agreed?

Chop chop is politics? I stand corrected, from context I took it to be you know, head lopping kaffur, shooting kaffur, blowing up kaffur, the brothers doing jihad all wrong. Grin

Whch you had also never heard of. Roll Eyes

But no, it's politics and you have never heard politics being discussed in a mosque so therefore....it never happens.

Remarkable.

Chop chop is not taught in Australian mosques, Secret. If it was, it would be inciting violence and a criminal matter.

I'm not even getting into chop chop, I'm talking about violent jihad, which is never taught in Australian mosques. Mosques are as conservative (or as liberal) as the Uniting church. They preach on prayer, fasting at Ramadan, doing the Haj, and giving alms to the poor. You will never hear a radical message coming out of an Australian mosque. From what I hear, they're quite boring and conventional.

I'm sorry if this disappoints, but if I was you, I'd feel relieved.

The gun which killed Curtis Cheng was most likely handed over in Para Mosque, and Para Mosque has been linked to some very unsavory characters.

Never say never.

It may well be, Gordy, it may well be.

However, the Parramatta Mosque most certainly does not preach violence, and they don't have metal detectors to find weapons.

It is simply, as you suggest, a meeting place for some rather unsavory characters.

Sinister, no?

HuT has been linked to Para mosque.
I know they don't preach violent jihad but they certainly put people in the mood for it

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Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Q&A tonight
Reply #70 - May 17^th, 2016 at 5:13pm

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:27pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:02pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Storm wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

But the chop chop stuff is taught in sydney mosques karnal.

It most certainly is not, as every Muslim will tell you.

The chop chop stuff is taught online, according to Muslim leaders, by Shiek Google.

Is this a rerun of apologism 101? You have never personally heard of chop chop being taught in Sydney mosques so it doesn't happen?

Exactly. Every Australian Muslim who's ever spoken out on this issue says the same. Australian mosques are conservative. They almost never stray into politics.

I'll let you know if I hear differently, or you can let me know.

Agreed?

Chop chop is politics? I stand corrected, from context I took it to be you know, head lopping kaffur, shooting kaffur, blowing up kaffur, the brothers doing jihad all wrong. Grin

Whch you had also never heard of. Roll Eyes

But no, it's politics and you have never heard politics being discussed in a mosque so therefore....it never happens.

Remarkable.

Chop chop is not taught in Australian mosques, Secret. If it was, it would be inciting violence and a criminal matter.

I'm not even getting into chop chop, I'm talking about violent jihad, which is never taught in Australian mosques. Mosques are as conservative (or as liberal) as the Uniting church. They preach on prayer, fasting at Ramadan, doing the Haj, and giving alms to the poor. You will never hear a radical message coming out of an Australian mosque. From what I hear, they're quite boring and conventional.

I'm sorry if this disappoints, but if I was you, I'd feel relieved.

The gun which killed Curtis Cheng was most likely handed over in Para Mosque, and Para Mosque has been linked to some very unsavory characters.

Never say never.

It may well be, Gordy, it may well be.

However, the Parramatta Mosque most certainly does not preach violence, and they don't have metal detectors to find weapons.

It is simply, as you suggest, a meeting place for some rather unsavory characters.

Sinister, no?

HuT has been linked to Para mosque.
I know they don't preach violent jihad but they certainly put people in the mood for it

How?

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Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Q&A tonight
Reply #71 - May 17^th, 2016 at 5:27pm

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 5:13pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:27pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:02pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Storm wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

But the chop chop stuff is taught in sydney mosques karnal.

It most certainly is not, as every Muslim will tell you.

The chop chop stuff is taught online, according to Muslim leaders, by Shiek Google.

Is this a rerun of apologism 101? You have never personally heard of chop chop being taught in Sydney mosques so it doesn't happen?

Exactly. Every Australian Muslim who's ever spoken out on this issue says the same. Australian mosques are conservative. They almost never stray into politics.

I'll let you know if I hear differently, or you can let me know.

Agreed?

Chop chop is politics? I stand corrected, from context I took it to be you know, head lopping kaffur, shooting kaffur, blowing up kaffur, the brothers doing jihad all wrong. Grin

Whch you had also never heard of. Roll Eyes

But no, it's politics and you have never heard politics being discussed in a mosque so therefore....it never happens.

Remarkable.

Chop chop is not taught in Australian mosques, Secret. If it was, it would be inciting violence and a criminal matter.

I'm not even getting into chop chop, I'm talking about violent jihad, which is never taught in Australian mosques. Mosques are as conservative (or as liberal) as the Uniting church. They preach on prayer, fasting at Ramadan, doing the Haj, and giving alms to the poor. You will never hear a radical message coming out of an Australian mosque. From what I hear, they're quite boring and conventional.

I'm sorry if this disappoints, but if I was you, I'd feel relieved.

The gun which killed Curtis Cheng was most likely handed over in Para Mosque, and Para Mosque has been linked to some very unsavory characters.

Never say never.

It may well be, Gordy, it may well be.

However, the Parramatta Mosque most certainly does not preach violence, and they don't have metal detectors to find weapons.

It is simply, as you suggest, a meeting place for some rather unsavory characters.

Sinister, no?

HuT has been linked to Para mosque.
I know they don't preach violent jihad but they certainly put people in the mood for it

How?

Did you read the Sam Harris / Maajid Nawaz concentric circles theory like I asked you to?

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Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Q&A tonight
Reply #72 - May 17^th, 2016 at 5:34pm

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 5:13pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:27pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:02pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Storm wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

But the chop chop stuff is taught in sydney mosques karnal.

It most certainly is not, as every Muslim will tell you.

The chop chop stuff is taught online, according to Muslim leaders, by Shiek Google.

Is this a rerun of apologism 101? You have never personally heard of chop chop being taught in Sydney mosques so it doesn't happen?

Exactly. Every Australian Muslim who's ever spoken out on this issue says the same. Australian mosques are conservative. They almost never stray into politics.

I'll let you know if I hear differently, or you can let me know.

Agreed?

Chop chop is politics? I stand corrected, from context I took it to be you know, head lopping kaffur, shooting kaffur, blowing up kaffur, the brothers doing jihad all wrong. Grin

Whch you had also never heard of. Roll Eyes

But no, it's politics and you have never heard politics being discussed in a mosque so therefore....it never happens.

Remarkable.

Chop chop is not taught in Australian mosques, Secret. If it was, it would be inciting violence and a criminal matter.

I'm not even getting into chop chop, I'm talking about violent jihad, which is never taught in Australian mosques. Mosques are as conservative (or as liberal) as the Uniting church. They preach on prayer, fasting at Ramadan, doing the Haj, and giving alms to the poor. You will never hear a radical message coming out of an Australian mosque. From what I hear, they're quite boring and conventional.

I'm sorry if this disappoints, but if I was you, I'd feel relieved.

The gun which killed Curtis Cheng was most likely handed over in Para Mosque, and Para Mosque has been linked to some very unsavory characters.

Never say never.

It may well be, Gordy, it may well be.

However, the Parramatta Mosque most certainly does not preach violence, and they don't have metal detectors to find weapons.

It is simply, as you suggest, a meeting place for some rather unsavory characters.

Sinister, no?

HuT has been linked to Para mosque.
I know they don't preach violent jihad but they certainly put people in the mood for it

How?

Did you read the Sam Harris / Maajid Nawaz concentric circles theory like I asked you to?

No. How is a mosque be guilty of preaching mass murder by having a few sinister types who drop in?

I'm curious. Please tell us in your own words, Gordy. Your suggestion is akin to suggesting that the Anglican church supported the invasion of Iraq - when, if I remember rightly, it did the opposite.

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Re: Ayaan Hirsi Ali on Q&A tonight
Reply #73 - May 17^th, 2016 at 5:46pm

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 5:34pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 5:27pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 5:13pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:27pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:14pm:

GordyL wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 4:02pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:40pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:26pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:21pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 2:15pm:

Karnal wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:31pm:

Storm wrote on May 17^th, 2016 at 1:16pm:

But the chop chop stuff is taught in sydney mosques karnal.

It most certainly is not, as every Muslim will tell you.

The chop chop stuff is taught online, according to Muslim leaders, by Shiek Google.

Is this a rerun of apologism 101? You have never personally heard of chop chop being taught in Sydney mosques so it doesn't happen?

Exactly. Every Australian Muslim who's ever spoken out on this issue says the same. Australian mosques are conservative. They almost never stray into politics.

I'll let you know if I hear differently, or you can let me know.

Agreed?

Chop chop is politics? I stand corrected, from context I took it to be you know, head lopping kaffur, shooting kaffur, blowing up kaffur, the brothers doing jihad all wrong. Grin

Whch you had also never heard of. Roll Eyes

But no, it's politics and you have never heard politics being discussed in a mosque so therefore....it never happens.

Remarkable.

Chop chop is not taught in Australian mosques, Secret. If it was, it would be inciting violence and a criminal matter.

I'm not even getting into chop chop, I'm talking about violent jihad, which is never taught in Australian mosques. Mosques are as conservative (or as liberal) as the Uniting church. They preach on prayer, fasting at Ramadan, doing the Haj, and giving alms to the poor. You will never hear a radical message coming out of an Australian mosque. From what I hear, they're quite boring and conventional.

I'm sorry if this disappoints, but if I was you, I'd feel relieved.

The gun which killed Curtis Cheng was most likely handed over in Para Mosque, and Para Mosque has been linked to some very unsavory characters.

Never say never.

It may well be, Gordy, it may well be.

However, the Parramatta Mosque most certainly does not preach violence, and they don't have metal detectors to find weapons.

It is simply, as you suggest, a meeting place for some rather unsavory characters.

Sinister, no?

HuT has been linked to Para mosque.
I know they don't preach violent jihad but they certainly put people in the mood for it

How?

Did you read the Sam Harris / Maajid Nawaz concentric circles theory like I asked you to?

No. How is a mosque be guilty of preaching mass murder by having a few sinister types who drop in?

I'm curious. Please tell us in your own words, Gordy.

I think the HuT types have been doing more than dropping in, no?

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