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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143958 Gender:	Re: Islam vs Secularism Reply #30 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:35pm freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:32pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:26pm: freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:25pm: Greg do you allow yourself to criticise Nazism? Do you? Yes Greg. Do you? Why wouldn't I, FD?
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Reply #31 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:38pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:33pm:

Seeing you don't judge every member of a organised religious group

I don't remember saying that, Homo.

Lying won't help you, you know?

Pecca 10 minutes ago- I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions

So you don't hate every member of the KKK then. That's nice. Good for you.

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Islam vs Secularism Reply #32 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:38pm
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Reply #33 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:47pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:33pm:

Seeing you don't judge every member of a organised religious group

I don't remember saying that, Homo.

Lying won't help you, you know?

Pecca 10 minutes ago- I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions

So you don't hate every member of the KKK then. That's nice. Good for you.

You have a real problem with words, don't you Homo?

Now you're getting 'judge' and 'hate' confused.

Perhaps you should see someone about that.

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Reply #34 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 7:14pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:25pm:

Greg do you allow yourself to criticise Nazism?

Do you?

Yes Greg. Do you?

Why wouldn't I, FD?

Because that would be apologising for Nazis?

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People who can't distinguish between etymology and entomology bug me in ways I cannot put into words.

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Reply #35 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 7:50pm

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 7:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:35pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:25pm:

Greg do you allow yourself to criticise Nazism?

Do you?

Yes Greg. Do you?

Why wouldn't I, FD?

Because that would be apologising for Nazis?

Well thank goodness I criticise Nazism and Islam and Liberal politicians and shonky car salesmen and commercial TV and ...

Anyone else we should be criticising, FD?

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Reply #36 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 8:54pm

Wouldn't criticising it involve mentioning it?

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 8:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:03pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:02pm:

I think he has settled on pedaling backwards....

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:40pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:31pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 4^th, 2016 at 9:29pm:

Was it you making that ludicrous argument for not mentioning Islam?

Not me.

So who is this then? The idiot Greg? Sorry if I have you two confused. How do I tell you apart?

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 7:07pm:

The best way to do that, is to ignore it.

Don't mention their silly religion.

Don't give them the satisfaction.

Direct all of your outrage at the individuals who committed the murders, not a silly set of beliefs.

That's just good advice, FD.

Do I need to explain the difference to you?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:49pm:

I've never advised people to refrain from mentioning Islam.

So, what direction would you like to take your butt-hurt now?

Another lie, perhaps?

It's your call.

It's up to you.

You can take my advice, or you can ignore it.

What's your decision, FD?

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 7:54pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 2:37pm:

Is an attack that causes death worse than a graffiti attack, or an incinerated car? Absolutely.

Why do you ask, anyway?

Greg can't make up his mind.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:26pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 6:24pm:

Do you think that consistently equating graffiti attacks with attacks causing multiple fatalities might undermine its ability to accurately capture the terrorism problem?

No.

There's nothing contrary in those two quotes.

Bomb blasts are worse than graffiti attacks.

And, in the stats I provided, they are all classified as terrorism.

Moreover, all terrorism is a problem.

Try to focus.

I'm consistent and, I'm 100% correct.

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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 143958 Gender:	Re: Islam vs Secularism Reply #37 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 8:55pm freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 8:54pm: Wouldn't criticising it involve mentioning it? What do you think, FD?
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freediver Gold Member Offline www.ozpolitic.com Posts: 50565 At my desk.	Re: Islam vs Secularism Reply #38 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 9:25pm I think your idiocy about not mentioning Islam because that is apologising for terrorists and somehow denying their responsibility for their own actions (as well as being racist, bigoted etc...) is tying you in all sorts of knots.
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Reply #39 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 9:29pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:33pm:

Seeing you don't judge every member of a organised religious group

I don't remember saying that, Homo.

Lying won't help you, you know?

Pecca 10 minutes ago- I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions

So you don't hate every member of the KKK then. That's nice. Good for you.

We all love the KKK, Homo. Well, the nice ones, anyway.

You?

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98425	Re: Islam vs Secularism Reply #40 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 9:31pm freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 9:25pm: I think your idiocy about not mentioning Islam because that is apologising for terrorists and somehow denying their responsibility for their own actions (as well as being racist, bigoted etc...) is tying you in all sorts of knots. Yes, FD did say this.
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Re: Islam vs Seculiarism
Reply #41 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 9:35pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 9:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:33pm:

Seeing you don't judge every member of a organised religious group

I don't remember saying that, Homo.

Lying won't help you, you know?

Pecca 10 minutes ago- I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions

So you don't hate every member of the KKK then. That's nice. Good for you.

We all love the KKK, Homo. Well, the nice ones, anyway.

You?

I've never had a problem with them. You, Pecca and many other leftards don't paint a whole religious group/organisation the same. So you must like most of them. Ever been bothered by the KKK sugar plum?

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Mr Hammer Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 25212 Gender:	Re: Islam vs Secularism Reply #42 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 9:35pm
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Reply #43 - Apr 26^th, 2016 at 9:47pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 9:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 9:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 6:33pm:

Seeing you don't judge every member of a organised religious group

I don't remember saying that, Homo.

Lying won't help you, you know?

Pecca 10 minutes ago- I wouldn't be surprised.

And even if they have, it wouldn't cause me to hate (or be frightened of) every single Scientologist on the planet.

It's the people who do the killing: not the religions

So you don't hate every member of the KKK then. That's nice. Good for you.

We all love the KKK, Homo. Well, the nice ones, anyway.

You?

I've never had a problem with them. You, Pecca and many other leftards don't paint a whole religious group/organisation the same. So you must like most of them. Ever been bothered by the KKK sugar plum?

If you’re asking if they drop goat meat around for Eid, Homo, never.

I live in Western Sydney, remember. Some of my best friends are KKKs.

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Re: Islam vs Secularism
Reply #44 - Apr 27^th, 2016 at 7:51am

freediver wrote on Apr 26^th, 2016 at 9:25pm:

I think your idiocy about not mentioning Islam because that is apologising for terrorists and somehow denying their responsibility for their own actions (as well as being racist, bigoted etc...) is tying you in all sorts of knots.

I know FD, I mean its almost as idiotic as this...

freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2007 at 4:32pm:

There is more than enough in human nature to make people violent. There is no need to recourse to religion and to do so usually oversimplifies the problem in way that make it worse.

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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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