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Re: Fluoride Classified As A Neurotoxin
Reply #45 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:32pm
 
http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/nobenefit.html

Fluoridated Water Does Not
Prevent Tooth Decay


by Mark D. Gold


I will cover two areas in this section. I will list a selection of information which shows that fluoridation is not helping to prevent dental decay. At the same time, I will comment on how the Dental Trade Organizations have used flawed studies to convince dentists that fluoridation was useful. I will preface those comments with:

"ALERT #x"

For this discussion, remember that in the U.S., Trade Organizations like the American Dental Association (ADA) recommend that water should be fluoridated to 1 part per million (1ppm), although they allow for variations depending upon the climate (.7 ppm - 1.2 ppm).

Also, please remember that the original studies by H. Trendly Dean on fluoridation which led to the decision to allow fluoridation of municipal water supplies

Were worthless by his own criteria.
Did not consider other minerals in the water.
Did not consider the differences between "natural fluoride" (e.g., CaF) and fluoride waste products (e.g., NaF).
Only reported his chosen selection of data -- a subsection of the data gathered.
Had little or no statistical analysis.
Included no safety experiments except for dental fluorosis.

Yiamouyiannis, J. "Water Fluoridation and Tooth Decay: Results From the 1986-1987 National Survey of U.S. Schoolchildren" Fluoride, Journal of The International Society for Fluoride Research (Volume 23, No. 2; April 1990; pp 55-67).

This study showed, once and for all, that fluoridation of the U.S. water supply was worthless, at best.

Summary: Data from dental examinations of 39,207 schoolchildren, aged 5-17, in 84 areas throughout the United States are analyzed. Of these areas, 27 had been fluoridated for 17 years of more (F), 30 had never been fluoridated (NF), and 27 had been only partially fluoridated or fluoridated for less than 17 years (PF). No statistically significant differences were found in the decay rates of permanent teeth or the percentages of decay-free children in the F, NF and PF areas. However, among 5-year-olds, the decay rates of the deciduous teeth were significantly lower in F than in NF areas.

Table 2

Average-age-adjusted DMFT [Decayed, Missing, Filled Teeth] rates for 39,207 U.S. schoolchildren and 17,336 lofe-long resident schoolchildren in 84 areas throughout the United States. Standard deviations are given in parentheses.

---------------- Total --------------- Life-Long --

Fluoridation
Status      No. of
Areas      No. of
Students      DMFT            No. of
Students      DMFT
Fluoridated      
27
12,747
1.96
(0.415)
6,272
1.97
(0.465)
Partially
Fluoridated      
27
12,578
2.18
(0.465)
5,642
2.25
(0.470)
Nonfluoridated      
30
13,882
1.99
(0.408)
5,422
2.05
(0.517)

As you can see, there are no statistical differences in decayed, mission, or filling teeth for U.S. children aged 5-17.

Yes, there is a stastically significant advantage in DMFT for 5-year-olds. However, by age 6, that advantage disappears. The suspected cause for the one-year, temporary benefit is slightly delayed tooth eruption in fluoridated water drinkers. Whatever the cause, remember, there are no statistically significant difference after age 5.

ALERT #1

Recently, Brunelle used the same data to "prove" a statistically significant advantage in dental decay in fluoridated sections of the U.S. ("Caries Attack in the Primary Dentition of U.S. Children" J. Dent. Research 69(Special Issue): 180 [Abstr. No. 575], 1990.) However, Brunelle used only one year (5-year-olds) of the data that was gathered in the national survey: 5 to 17 years old! As was mentioned above, this slight advantage in fluoridation disappears after age 5 and is likely caused by slightly delayed tooth eruption in 5-year-olds. By picking tiny subsections of data collected, a researcher can prove whatever he or she wants! This is not the only time this flawed data analysis technique was used in fluoridation research.

Also, this study points to the fact that other studies which relied to a large extent on 5-year-olds and few older children may also show skewed results.

ALERT #2

In another poor study, Brunelle and Carlos used more complete survey data to seemingly "prove" the advantages of fluoridation. ("Recent Trends in Dental Caries in U.S. Children and the Effect of Water Fluoridation" J. Dental Research, 69(Special Issue): 723-728, 1990). This time Brunelle used more data than above, but made many other sloppy errors as pointed out by Yiamouyiannis.

"It contains extremely serious errors. For example, by a cursory inspection, we found two values that are off by 100% or more. In their Table 9, the DMFS figure for life-long F exposure residents of Region VII should be about 3, not 1.46 as reported. Form their Table 3, the percent of 5-year-olds who have caries is 1.0%, not the 2.7% that can be calculated from the table. When I pointed out this error to Dr. Carlos he admitted that only 19 out of the 1851 5-year-olds had caries (19/1851 = 1%), but refused to make the correction."

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Reply #46 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 3:33pm
 
"It fails to report the tooth decay rates for each of the 84 geographical areas surveyed. This covers up the fact that there is no difference in the tooth decay rates of the fluoridated and nonfluoridated areas surveyed. The Brunelle/ Carlos study even fails to list the areas studied. As a result, they produce misleading illustrations; for example, their Figure 3 implies that Arizona and New Mexico have the lowest tooth decay rates, when, in fact, not a single area was surveyed in either of the two states."

"It fails to do the statistical analysis (or even provide the data, i.e., the standard deviation and sample number) necessary to determine whether the values found for F and NF areas are significantly different."

"It fails to report the data for the approximately 23,000 schoolchildren who were not life-time residents of either the F or NF areas (the partially fluoridated, PF group)....

He goes on to point out other significant flaws in this Brunelle and Carlos study.

Steelink C., Fowler M, Osborn M et al. Findings and recommendations of subcommittee on fluoridation. City of Tuscon AZ 1992 (PO Box 27210).
Also see: Chemical and Engineering News (7/27/92).

A study of Tuscon elementary children was performed by Cornelius Steelink, Professor Emeritus, Department of Chemistry, University of Arizona. The study was performed in order to determine the "benefits" of water fluoridation.

They compared tooth decay versus fluoride content in a child's neighborhood drinking water for 26,000 elementary school children.

Here are the results:

"...a positive correlation was revealed. In other words, the more fluoride a child drank, the more cavities appeared in the teeth.

He goes on to state:

"Since this was an unusual result, our subcommittee looked for other relevant factors. Family incomes was compared to tooth decay. An excellent inverse relation was found for these 26,000 children: the higher the income, the lower the number of decayed teeth. Other anecdotal evidence gathered by our committee included lack of access to dental facilities, poverty, diet, and oral hygiene as contributing factors to tooth decay in this group of children.

In the final report, the subcommittee stated that there was no obvious relation of fluoride content in municipal water to the prevention of tooth decay in Tucson, and because there are multiple causes of tooth decay, a decision to fluoridate would still leave pockets of poor dental health in Tucson. .... However, when the full Citizens Water Advisory Committee reviewed our report in June 1992, it recommended (on a split vote) that the city council go ahead and fluoridate the water. The principal argument for this vote was: 'Even though fluoridation doesn't appear to be effective, let's rely on the advice of the public health officials. After all, they're the experts.'"

I saw a graph with the percentage of tooth decay plotted against fluoride concentration. As soon as it goes over .6 ppm, the decay goes way up.

"Influence of social class and fluoridation on child dental health" Community Dentistry and Oral Epidemiology 13 37-41 1985.

This study examined the influence of social class (environmental and lifestyle factors, diet, etc.) and fluoridation on dental health. It showed that dental health as continued to improve equally in both fluoridated and unfluoridated areas and that the level of dental health was strongly related to social class.

A similar result (with slightly better teeth in unfluoridated areas) was found in Colquohoun J. "Child dental health differences in New Zealand" Community Health Studies 11 85-90 1987.

ALERT #3

The last two sections (2, 3) show that it is not lack of fluoride that leads to decay but things such as "lack of access to dental facilities, poverty, diet, and oral hygiene." A number of studies were performed by persons interested in keeping the fluoridation myth alive. One way to skew the results was to compare two areas, one fluoridated and one non-fluoridated but not take into account other factors. If a non-fluoridated area with lack of dental facilities, poverty, poor diet and hygiene was compared against a nearby, yet more well-to-do fluoridated area, it becomes very easy to "prove" (wink, wink) that fluoridation is beneficial. This type of nonsense was done several times in order to keep the fluoridation myth alive.

One of many studies that have this flaw is:

Jackson, D., et al. "Fluoridation in Anglesey 1983: a Clinical Study of Dental Caries" British Dental Journal 1985: 158: 45.

The two areas being compared, while adjacent, were vastly different.

Ziegelbecker RC, Ziegelbecker R. "WHO data on dental caries and natural water fluoride levels." Fluoride 26 263-266 1993.

and

Ziegelbecker R. "Fluoridated water and teeth" Fluoride 14 123-128 1981

Both of these studies are from large data set showing that there is no correlation between caries and fluoride concentration and no improvement in dental health from fluoride. In the 1981 study, for example, Ziegelbecker made of random sampling of all available data on caries prevalence. He selected 48,000 12-14 year-old children from 136 community water supplies in seven countries.

Diesendorf M. "The mystery of declining tooth decay" Nature 322 125-129 1986.

Summary

Large temporal reductions in tooth decay, which cannot be attributed to fluoridation, have been observed in both unfluoridated and fluoridated areas of at least eight developed countries over the past thirty years
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Re: Fluoride Classified As A Neurotoxin
Reply #47 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 4:14pm
 
It fails to do the statistical analysis (or even provide the data, i.e., the standard deviation and sample number) necessary to determine whether the values found for F and NF areas are significantly different.



Odd statement to make since the author in the first table just states they arent statistically significant yet doesn't show working or even list  a p value.




Plus, if thats the way the information as it has been provided, I don't see how it proves the benefits or not of fluoridation.


E.g. theres no mention of dental hygeine as a factor.


To summarise up, this link is a terrible meta-analysis.
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Reply #48 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 5:41pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 4:14pm:
It fails to do the statistical analysis (or even provide the data, i.e., the standard deviation and sample number) necessary to determine whether the values found for F and NF areas are significantly different.



Odd statement to make since the author in the first table just states they arent statistically significant yet doesn't show working or even list  a p value.




Plus, if thats the way the information as it has been provided, I don't see how it proves the benefits or not of fluoridation.


E.g. theres no mention of dental hygeine as a factor.


To summarise up, this link is a terrible meta-analysis.


to focus on a semantoid reflects your acumen in digesting the rest of the valuable and studied evidence

this speaks volumes unto your various afflictions

Quote:
They compared tooth decay versus fluoride content in a child's neighborhood drinking water for 26,000 elementary school children.

Here are the results:

"...a positive correlation was revealed. In other words, the more fluoride a child drank, the more cavities appeared in the teeth.

He goes on to state:

"Since this was an unusual result, our subcommittee looked for other relevant factors. Family incomes was compared to tooth decay. An excellent inverse relation was found for these 26,000 children: the higher the income, the lower the number of decayed teeth. Other anecdotal evidence gathered by our committee included lack of access to dental facilities, poverty, diet, and oral hygiene as contributing factors to tooth decay in this group of children.

In the final report, the subcommittee stated that there was no obvious relation of fluoride content in municipal water to the prevention of tooth decay in Tucson, and because there are multiple causes of tooth decay, a decision to fluoridate would still leave pockets of poor dental health in Tucson. .... However, when the full Citizens Water Advisory Committee reviewed our report in June 1992, it recommended (on a split vote) that the city council go ahead and fluoridate the water. The principal argument for this vote was: 'Even though fluoridation doesn't appear to be effective, let's rely on the advice of the public health officials. After all, they're the experts.'"

I saw a graph with the percentage of tooth decay plotted against fluoride concentration. As soon as it goes over .6 ppm, the decay goes way up.


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Reply #49 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 5:46pm
 
Dear master Light,

did you know that in Australia we have Uranium in our water?
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Reply #50 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 5:47pm
 
Quote:
ALERT #3

The last two sections (2, 3) show that it is not lack of fluoride that leads to decay but things such as "lack of access to dental facilities, poverty, diet, and oral hygiene." A number of studies were performed by persons interested in keeping the fluoridation myth alive. One way to skew the results was to compare two areas, one fluoridated and one non-fluoridated but not take into account other factors. If a non-fluoridated area with lack of dental facilities, poverty, poor diet and hygiene was compared against a nearby, yet more well-to-do fluoridated area, it becomes very easy to "prove" (wink, wink) that fluoridation is beneficial. This type of nonsense was done several times in order to keep the fluoridation myth alive.

One of many studies that have this flaw is:

Jackson, D., et al. "Fluoridation in Anglesey 1983: a Clinical Study of Dental Caries" British Dental Journal 1985: 158: 45.

The two areas being compared, while adjacent, were vastly different.

Ziegelbecker RC, Ziegelbecker R. "WHO data on dental caries and natural water fluoride levels." Fluoride 26 263-266 1993.

and

Ziegelbecker R. "Fluoridated water and teeth" Fluoride 14 123-128 1981

Both of these studies are from large data set showing that there is no correlation between caries and fluoride concentration and no improvement in dental health from fluoride. In the 1981 study, for example, Ziegelbecker made of random sampling of all available data on caries prevalence. He selected 48,000 12-14 year-old children from 136 community water supplies in seven countries.

Diesendorf M. "The mystery of declining tooth decay" Nature 322 125-129 1986.

Summary

Large temporal reductions in tooth decay, which cannot be attributed to fluoridation, have been observed in both unfluoridated and fluoridated areas of at least eight developed countries over the past thirty years


in short fluoridation is simply a means to poison people

keep them sick and reliant on pharmaceutical drugs

of which both pastafarian and taverner are in receivence of frequent and copious doses

forgiven

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Reply #51 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 5:49pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 5:46pm:
Dear master Light,

did you know that in Australia we have Uranium in our water?


many blessings sir bobby

have you alerted the government to the poisons in your water ?


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Reply #52 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 5:50pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 5:49pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 5:46pm:
Dear master Light,

did you know that in Australia we have Uranium in our water?


many blessings sir bobby

have you alerted the government to the poisons in your water ?





No - it is a well known fact.
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Reply #53 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 6:06pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 5:50pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 5:49pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 5:46pm:
Dear master Light,

did you know that in Australia we have Uranium in our water?


many blessings sir bobby

have you alerted the government to the poisons in your water ?





No - it is a well known fact.


well it must be good for you because you trust your government dont you

you and your ancestors have been known to sacrifice people for your government

...

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Reply #54 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 7:13pm
 
dear master Light,

you are forgiven for not knowing that Uranium is in your water.

It's a heavy metal like lead which builds up &

is radioactive as well.

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Reply #55 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:16pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 7:13pm:
dear master Light,

you are forgiven for not knowing that Uranium is in your water.

It's a heavy metal like lead which builds up &

is radioactive as well.

namaste


many blessings sir bobby

yet I have posted that information many times before and so

you merely repeat that which one such as I am has bestowed unto thee ..

...

( disclaimer .. you are not *&^%ed, for you are divine )

you are forgiven

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Reply #56 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 7:13pm:
dear master Light,

you are forgiven for not knowing that Uranium is in your water.

It's a heavy metal like lead which builds up &

is radioactive as well.

namaste



Dont forget the radioactive potassium in our food
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Reply #57 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:24pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 7:13pm:
dear master Light,

you are forgiven for not knowing that Uranium is in your water.

It's a heavy metal like lead which builds up &

is radioactive as well.

namaste



Dont forget the radioactive potassium in our food


Pastafarian aka horseman is an expert

it is said he actually teaches the endocrine system , and that mercury and thimerosal injected in your veins is good for your body

and so not much wisdom there is there ...

fear not forgiven
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Reply #58 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:48pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:24pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 7:13pm:
dear master Light,

you are forgiven for not knowing that Uranium is in your water.

It's a heavy metal like lead which builds up &

is radioactive as well.

namaste



Dont forget the radioactive potassium in our food


Pastafarian aka horseman is an expert

it is said he actually teaches the endocrine system , and that mercury and thimerosal injected in your veins is good for your body

and so not much wisdom there is there ...

fear not forgiven



Not this pineal glandf crap again. plus vaccines arent given IV
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Re: Fluoride Classified As A Neurotoxin
Reply #59 - Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:50pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:48pm:
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:24pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 10:18pm:
Bobby. wrote on Apr 18th, 2016 at 7:13pm:
dear master Light,

you are forgiven for not knowing that Uranium is in your water.

It's a heavy metal like lead which builds up &

is radioactive as well.

namaste



Dont forget the radioactive potassium in our food


Pastafarian aka horseman is an expert

it is said he actually teaches the endocrine system , and that mercury and thimerosal injected in your veins is good for your body

and so not much wisdom there is there ...

fear not forgiven



Not this pineal glandf crap again. plus vaccines arent given IV


many blessings pastafarian

well you should know because you have announced you teach propaganda for the pharmaceutical companies

you are exposed again

does this comfort much ?

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