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Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:00pm
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-12/led-zeppelin's-plant,-page-to-face-stairwa...

Led Zeppelin's Robert Plant, Jimmy Page to face Stairway to Heaven copyright trial

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PHOTO: Lead singer Robert Plant (L) and guitarist Jimmy Page of the British rock band Led Zeppelin will face a US jury trial next month. (Reuters: Carlo Allegri/Hans Deryk)

Led Zeppelin's lead singer Robert Plant and guitarist Jimmy Page will face a US jury trial next month over whether they stole the opening chords for their 1971 hit Stairway to Heaven.

District Judge Gary Klausner ruled that Stairway and the 1967 instrumental Taurus by the band Spirit were similar enough to let a jury decide whether Plant and Page were liable for copyright infringement.

A trial is scheduled for May 10.

The lawsuit was brought by Michael Skidmore, a trustee for the late Randy Wolfe, also known as Randy California, who was Spirit's guitarist and the composer of Taurus.

Mr Skidmore said Page might have been inspired to write Stairway for Led Zeppelin after hearing Spirit perform Taurus while the bands toured together in 1968 and 1969, but that Wolfe never got credit.

The defendants said Wolfe was a songwriter-for-hire who had no copyright claim, and that the chord progressions were so cliched they did not deserve copyright protection.

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VIDEO: Compare Taurus by Spirit and Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin (ABC News)
But the judge said a jury could find "substantial" similarity between the first two minutes of Stairway and Taurus, which he called "arguably the most recognisable and important segments" of the songs.

"While it is true that a descending chromatic four-chord progression is a common convention that abounds in the music industry, the similarities here transcend this core structure," Mr Klausner wrote.

"What remains is a subjective assessment of the 'concept and feel' of two works ... a task no more suitable for a judge than for a jury."

Mr Klausner dismissed claims against Led Zeppelin bassist John Paul Jones and Warner Music Group Corp.

He also said the trustee could get only 50 per cent of any damages awarded, citing a 1967 contract that Wolfe signed.

"This case, from our perspective, has always been about giving credit where credit was due, and now we get to right that wrong," Francis Malofiy, a lawyer for Mr Skidmore, said.

A lawyer for the defendants did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

According to the complaint, Wolfe complained about the similarities of the songs in an interview shortly before he drowned in 1997 in the Pacific Ocean while attempting to rescue his son.

Stairway to Heaven is a track on Led Zeppelin's untitled fourth studio album, often referred to as Led Zeppelin IV.
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Reply #1 - Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:08pm
 

This has been going on for years.

The similarities are there, sure.

Anyway, I'm more concerned about AC/DC releasing the exact same album under fifteen different titles for the last forty years. How do they get away with that?
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Reply #2 - Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:11pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:08pm:
This has been going on for years.

The similarities are there, sure.

Anyway, I'm more concerned about AC/DC releasing the exact same album under fifteen different titles for the last forty years. How do they get away with that?


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Reply #3 - Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:15pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:08pm:
This has been going on for years.

The similarities are there, sure.

Anyway, I'm more concerned about AC/DC releasing the exact same album under fifteen different titles for the last forty years. How do they get away with that?


I doubt it's a direct rip off, there so many reoccurring themes in music.

Gotye is lucky no one can sue him over Baa Baa black sheep tho.

I'm surprised Bowie never got pinged for Over the Rainbow.
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Reply #4 - Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:17pm
 
Plus its a riff, is it possible to completely rip off a riff? Considering so many of them are alike
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #5 - Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:18pm
 
GordyL wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:15pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:08pm:
This has been going on for years.

The similarities are there, sure.

Anyway, I'm more concerned about AC/DC releasing the exact same album under fifteen different titles for the last forty years. How do they get away with that?


I doubt it's a direct rip off, there so many reoccurring themes in music.

Gotye is lucky no one can sue him over Baa Baa black sheep tho.

I'm surprised Bowie never got pinged for Over the Rainbow.


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Reply #6 - Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:20pm
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:17pm:
Plus its a riff, is it possible to completely rip off a riff? Considering so many of them are alike


Blues riffs, for example.

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Reply #7 - Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:22pm
 


Spirit - Taurus

check mate led zep stole stairway to heaven and now

they shall give it back

perfect rip off

forgiven yet exposed

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Reply #8 - Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:22pm
 
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:20pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:17pm:
Plus its a riff, is it possible to completely rip off a riff? Considering so many of them are alike


Blues riffs, for example.



they ripped or more than a riff

its total theft yet these blokes seemed pretty cool about it in those days

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crikey though , imagine the royalties they would have to pay..

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Reply #9 - Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:25pm
 
it_is_the_light wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:22pm:
greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:20pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:17pm:
Plus its a riff, is it possible to completely rip off a riff? Considering so many of them are alike


Blues riffs, for example.



they ripped or more than a riff

its total theft yet these blokes seemed pretty cool about it in those days

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00346/4389989__346461c.jpg

crikey though , imagine the royalties they would have to pay..

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If it was total theft, the song would be a cover.

Even the riff is not a complete rip off.
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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Reply #10 - Apr 12th, 2016 at 4:26pm
 

Mickey - Toni Basil

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Reply #11 - May 15th, 2016 at 9:37am
 
Dear master Light,
you should listen to Dazed & Confused at 6:25

They put the song San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair) into their medley of other peoples songs.
Only you would care.
It's so different from the original & a heavy metal take on it.





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San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"San Francisco (Be Sure To Wear Flowers In Your Hair)"
Single by Scott McKenzie
from the album The Voice of Scott McKenzie
B-side      "What's The Difference"
Released      May 13, 1967
Format      7" vinyl
Genre      Psychedelic pop
Length      2:58
Label      Columbia 2757 (UK and Canada)
Ode 103 (US)
Writer(s)      John Phillips[1]
Producer(s)      Lou Adler, John Phillips[1]
Scott McKenzie singles chronology
"No, No, No, No, No"
(1966)      "San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair)"
(1967)      "Look in Your Eyes"
(1967)

"San Francisco (Be Sure to Wear Flowers in Your Hair)" is an American pop music song, written by John Phillips of The Mamas & the Papas, and sung by Scott McKenzie.[2] The song was produced and released in May 1967 by Phillips and Lou Adler, who used it to promote their Monterey International Pop Music Festival held in June of that year.[3] John Phillips played guitar on the recording and session musician Gary L. Coleman played orchestra bells and chimes. The bass line of the song was supplied by session musician Joe Osborn. Hal Blaine played drums.

McKenzie's version of the song has been called "the unofficial anthem of the counterculture movement of the 1960s
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Reply #12 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 8:52pm
 
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/music/stairway-to-heavens-staggering-royalt...

Stairway to Heaven’s staggering royalties


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LED Zeppelin singer Robert Plant and guitarist Jimmy Page have made $A79.16 million over the years from Stairway to Heaven.

That’s according to an expert who has testified in Los Angeles in a trial over alleged copyright infringement by the band’s signature song.
The British rock band is accused of stealing the opening riff to its 1971 classic from a 1967 instrumental, Taurus, by the US band Spirit.
The lawsuit was brought by Michael Skidmore, a trustee for Randy Wolfe, the late guitarist of Spirit and composer of Taurus.
In federal court in Los Angeles on Friday, Skidmore’s lawyers called Michael Einhorn, an expert on music royalties, to testify about damages related to the case.
Einhorn said Plant and Page had made $A79.16 million in total as composers of Stairway to Heaven.
The lawsuit seeks a writing credit for Wolfe on the song and damages in an amount to be proven at trial.
The trial has been closely watched this week as Page, 72, and Plant, 67, attended court, both wearing suits with their long silver hair tied into ponytails.
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Reply #13 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 9:01pm
 
Dear master Light,

If you're going to San Francisco Be Sure to Wear some Flowers in Your Hair.
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Reply #14 - Jun 18th, 2016 at 9:15pm
 
singer Robert Plant and guitarist Jimmy Page will be made to pay for their theft of the stairway to heaven

she bought a stolen stairway .. more hoodwinkery from occultists and worshippers of crowley

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