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Reply #120 - Aug 31st, 2021 at 1:23am
 
Frank wrote on Aug 29th, 2021 at 9:52pm:



Joys of multi-culturalism, ain' it?
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Reply #121 - Oct 15th, 2021 at 1:34pm
 
As part of the left-wing of the Labour party’s continuing attempts to re-establish itself as a viable political concern, it has issued a new slogan designed to unify its candidates in the upcoming local elections.

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Socialism is the answer.

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Reply #122 - Feb 20th, 2022 at 9:04am
 
STOP THE BOATS!!!


Home Secretary Priti Patel has appointed former Australian foreign affairs minister Alexander Downer to look into how Britain can tackle the ever-rising number of migrant boat crossings in the English Channel, with over 28,000 illegal migrants landing in the United Kingdom by sea in 2021.
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Reply #123 - Feb 21st, 2022 at 6:34pm
 
Well, at least.............................................. 
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British colonialism past helped to cut down on cannibalism.....
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Reply #124 - Feb 21st, 2022 at 9:11pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 2:13pm:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03pnkhm

If you listen to this you would be forgiven for thinking Oxford is now populated by, run for and expounding the views of the haters of everything white.
Quite an eye opener. Open your wallets and be prepared to be asked for reparations.

And if you want my opinion, Africa & India etc should be grateful for the British Empire, without which they would still be where they were 200 years ago and exploited by local tribal chiefs and feudal overlords.



Western colonialism ended too soon.   That is the tragedy of Africa, Latin America, the Middle East and Asia.

Children of 8, demannding to be treated as 21, were given whiskey and car keys.
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Reply #125 - Feb 22nd, 2022 at 6:26am
 
"they would still be where they were 200 years ago and exploited by local tribal chiefs and feudal overlords."

They're doing a fine job of getting back to that without Western help...............
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Reply #126 - Jan 17th, 2023 at 11:50am
 
Frank wrote on Feb 21st, 2022 at 9:11pm:
bogarde73 wrote on Apr 12th, 2016 at 2:13pm:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03pnkhm

If you listen to this you would be forgiven for thinking Oxford is now populated by, run for and expounding the views of the haters of everything white.
Quite an eye opener. Open your wallets and be prepared to be asked for reparations.

And if you want my opinion, Africa & India etc should be grateful for the British Empire, without which they would still be where they were 200 years ago and exploited by local tribal chiefs and feudal overlords.



Western colonialism ended too soon.   That is the tragedy of Africa, Latin America, the Middle East and Asia.

Children of 8, demanding to be treated as 21, were given whiskey and car keys.

Using my new year's resolution to free my tree, and myself, from the bondage of colonization


As I took the decorations off my artificial Christmas tree and put them away, I found myself mulling over new year's resolutions. At this time of year, we are called to reflect on life; how we can improve or be a better human in some way. I've been inspired by this tradition, but lately it's been more about how I can leave Mother Earth in a better place than I inherited it, like the one my ancestors thrived in for millennia.

Carefully handling each branch, I snipped away at the wires and started feeling for this tree. With each snip and painstaking unwinding, I recognized that I was releasing the tree from the bondage of appearance and glitter
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As an Anishinaabekwe, I am most at home among my mitig (tree) relatives. So when one is brought into my home, I feel like I'm welcoming family. I live by the beliefs and values that I've been taught: that I have a relationship with everything around me — the flying beings, the growing beings, the swimming beings, the four-legged beings and the rooted beings. They are all my relatives and without them, without their support, I would not be able to survive. So when I welcome one into my home, it is as a relative whom I love, respect and cherish.

My pre-colonization family name is Mkishinaatik, meaning "Rotten Wood." When I first learned the meaning of my family name, I wondered, "Why was my family known by this strange name that sounded so unpleasant?"

I carried this question for many years before a kind and knowledgeable Kokum explained the importance of my name. My family became known as nurturers and healers because, without the rotting wood, nothing would ever grow again. The medicines given up by the wood as it returns to the earth allows the next generation to flourish. I was filled with pride when I received this teaching and I say "Chi miigwetch, Kokum" for this truth.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/christmas-tree-colonization-mitig-1.6708294

From now on she will buy actual Christmas trees, not Made in China plastic ones year in, year out.

Take THAT, you colonialist white bastards!

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Reply #127 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:47am
 
Cruel Britannia?
Colonialism: A Moral Reckoning
By Nigel Biggar
William Collins 480pp £25

Tout comprendre c’est tout pardonner is an aphorism variously attributed to Spinoza, Madame de Staël and Tolstoy. But Biggar’s quest for understanding has not made him an uncritical admirer of Britain’s empire or any other one. He acknowledges that colonialism severely disrupted existing patterns of indigenous life. It was often achieved or maintained through violence and injustice. In the last analysis, all states maintain themselves by force or the threat of it. Government, imperial or domestic, has always involved light and shade, achievement and failure, good and evil. Biggar’s point is that it falsifies history to collect together everything bad about an institution and serve it up as if it were the whole.

Biggar makes three broad points by way of mitigation when it comes to the British Empire’s legacy. First, many of the worst things were not the result of ideology or calculated policy. They were abuses which were recognised as such and addressed, not always successfully. Second, the disruption brought benefits as well as suffering. Practices such as slavery, cannibalism, sati and human sacrifice, which were by any standards barbarous, were eliminated. The ground was laid for an economic and social transformation that lifted much of the world out of extremes of poverty. Third, the British brought not just disruption but also the rule of law, constitutional government, honest administration, economic development and modern educational and research facilities, all long before they would have been achieved without European intervention.

Biggar takes his agenda from the Empire’s critics. He deals in turn with each of the principal criticisms, starting with slavery and going on to address racism, cultural aggression, population displacement, economic exploitation, authoritarianism and political violence. He confronts the famous horror stories: the Opium Wars, the Benin expedition, the Amritsar massacre, the suppression of the Mau Mau in Kenya. In each case, he sets out the historical context, which is so often absent. He acknowledges the respects in which the charges are justified, but points out in what respects they are unjustified or exaggerated. There are a few places where Biggar may be accused of tendentious selection or special pleading. But in general, his approach is objective and he fairly addresses the contrary arguments.

A good example is the chapter on slavery, which touches on perhaps the most sensitive and controversial issue of all. Biggar does not for a moment seek to defend the Atlantic slave trade, and recognises that it was imperialism that made it possible. It created the markets for slaves, the fleets which transported them and the legal and administrative framework that kept them in subjection. But if imperialism made slavery possible, it also enabled its suppression when sentiment changed. For a society such as Britain’s, imbued with Christian moral teaching, the trade was defensible only on the footing that black people were not really human. It was the rejection of that notion which transformed English attitudes to slavery in the course of the 18th century. Domestic slavery was banned in common law in the 1770s. After a long campaign by evangelical Christians, the slave trade was criminalised by statute in 1807 and slavery itself abolished throughout the British Empire in 1834. The Foreign Office and the Royal Navy campaigned for its international suppression throughout the 19th century. Britain was decades ahead of the rest of Europe and the United States in recognising the moral case against slavery and taking active steps to suppress it. The size, reach and diplomatic and naval power of the British Empire were by far the most significant factors in the demise in less than a century of an institution that had subsisted across the world throughout history.

Unless we draw up a balance sheet of empire, we will never understand one of the most significant forces in the making of the modern world. Inevitably, it will be an incomplete balance sheet. There will be credits and debits, but no bottom line. This is because, as Biggar points out, the good and bad things about empire are incommensurate.
https://literaryreview.co.uk/cruel-britannia
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Reply #128 - Feb 22nd, 2023 at 9:50am
 
Only Islam and Israel 'united' shall be the judge of Great Britain upon Judgement Day.
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Reply #129 - Mar 4th, 2023 at 8:32pm
 
The wacist colonial oppressive gawd-awful British Ruling class, 2023

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Prime Minister Rishi Sunak, Foreign Secretary James Cleverly, and Home Secretary Suella Braverman.
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2023/03/23/bloody-panico-tory-nation-samuel-earle/



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Reply #130 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 8:07pm
 
Rishi Sunak PM, is Britain's colonial heritage.
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Reply #131 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 8:19pm
 
Britain is at fault in Asia, Africa and Oceania and in time, will fall in Europe too.

But in the Middle-East, N.America, Sahul (Aust) and S.America - it has been a boon and benefit.

But that could be said of Politics (Britain) itself.
Empowering Men in N.America, S.America, Sahul and the M.E
While empowering Women in Europe, Asia, Africa and Oceania.

Why?
Because that's equality.  Wink
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Reply #132 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 8:21pm
 
...oh, don't forget that Britain is two nations in one.
There is the Political 'Great Britain' and the Royal (Masters of Ceremony aka Entertainment) 'United Kingdom'. Wink
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Reply #133 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 8:54pm
 
Should Brian be ashamed of his past???

Why ??? What has he done???

I’m almost afraid to ask 🥺😞
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Reply #134 - Mar 14th, 2023 at 8:56pm
 
Maybe ask the Ladyboys in Bangkok?
They loved his moustache.
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