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Reply #105 - Apr 13th, 2021 at 1:47am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:32pm:
Colonialism ended prematurely.

The jigaboos can't manage on their own.




They're doing very well at killing one another etc... even those oppressed mightily by the Belgians had an excellent run at it in Rwanda.... apparently they learned their lessons well from the Belgians... so they say.... the Cambos throw off their French Oppressors and killed half their own population according to a Cambo guy I once met... the Vietnamers killed millions of their own after the Frogs left.... Mao killed many millions after throwing off the shackles of Western domination...

What is the excuse for the excesses in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe?
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Reply #106 - Apr 22nd, 2021 at 10:39pm
 
Once upon a time, the Democrats thought differently. It was their first progressive president, Woodrow Wilson, who imposed the concept of "self-determination" on post-Great War Europe, insisting that the multicultural empires of the Habsburgs and Romanovs be replaced by a patchwork of ethnic statelets from the Balkans to the Baltic. He would be surprised to find his own party presiding over a Habsburgian America of bilingual Balkanization as a matter of electoral strategy.

On the Continent, the shifting rationale for mass immigration may not illuminate much about the immigrants but it certainly tells you something about the natives: Originally, European leaders said, we needed immigrants to work in the mills and factories. But the mills and factories closed. So the new rationale was that we needed young immigrants to keep the welfare state solvent. But in Germany the Turks retire even younger than the Krauts do, and in France 65 percent of imams are on the dole. So the surviving rationale is that a dependence on mass immigration is not a structural flaw but a sign of moral virtue. The evolving justification for post-war immigration policy — from manufacturing to welfare to moral narcissism — is itself a perfect shorthand for Western decay.

Most of the above doesn't sound terribly "fiscal," because it's not. The ruinous debt is a symptom of our decline, not the cause. As Angela Merkel well understands every time she switches on the TV and sees a news report from Greece, culture trumps economics. I had a faintly surreal conversation with two Hollywood liberal pals not so long ago: One moment they were bemoaning all those right-wing racists like Pat Buchanan who'd made such a big deal about the crowd cheering for the Mexican team and booing the Americans at a U.S.–Mexico soccer match in Pasadena, and deploring the way the U.S. goalie had complained that the post-match ceremony was conducted entirely in Spanish. Ten minutes later they were sighing that nothing in Los Angeles seemed to work quite as well as it did when they first came out west over 40 years ago.

And it never occurred to them that these two conversational topics might somehow be connected.

Meanwhile, at Redwood Heights Elementary in Oakland, Californian kindergartners are put through "Gender Spectrum Diversity Training" in order to teach them that there are "more than two genders."

The social capital of a nation is built up over centuries but squandered in a generation or two. With blithe self-confidence, the post-war West changed too much too fast. We changed everything, and yet we'll still wonder why everything's changed.
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The first world is turned into the third world by the barbarian invasion that is illegal immigration.


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Reply #107 - Apr 23rd, 2021 at 6:12pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:32pm:
Colonialism ended prematurely.

The jigaboos can't manage on their own.




The Jigaboos threw you people out, dear boy. It didn't take much. There you were in your pith helmet, Bombay bloomers and long white socks, picking out the best pieces of fruit in the market.

And there was Darkie with his spear, standing on one leg, watching you.

You said good day, paid top dollar for the fruit, and hightailed it out as quick as you could.

I'd say colonialism ended at just the right time.

You?
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Reply #108 - Apr 23rd, 2021 at 6:28pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 22nd, 2021 at 10:39pm:
Once upon a time, the Democrats thought differently. It was their first progressive president, Woodrow Wilson, who imposed the concept of "self-determination" on post-Great War Europe, insisting that the multicultural empires of the Habsburgs and Romanovs be replaced by a patchwork of ethnic statelets from the Balkans to the Baltic. He would be surprised to find his own party presiding over a Habsburgian America of bilingual Balkanization as a matter of electoral strategy.

On the Continent, the shifting rationale for mass immigration may not illuminate much about the immigrants but it certainly tells you something about the natives: Originally, European leaders said, we needed immigrants to work in the mills and factories. But the mills and factories closed. So the new rationale was that we needed young immigrants to keep the welfare state solvent. But in Germany the Turks retire even younger than the Krauts do, and in France 65 percent of imams are on the dole. So the surviving rationale is that a dependence on mass immigration is not a structural flaw but a sign of moral virtue. The evolving justification for post-war immigration policy — from manufacturing to welfare to moral narcissism — is itself a perfect shorthand for Western decay.

Most of the above doesn't sound terribly "fiscal," because it's not. The ruinous debt is a symptom of our decline, not the cause. As Angela Merkel well understands every time she switches on the TV and sees a news report from Greece, culture trumps economics. I had a faintly surreal conversation with two Hollywood liberal pals not so long ago: One moment they were bemoaning all those right-wing racists like Pat Buchanan who'd made such a big deal about the crowd cheering for the Mexican team and booing the Americans at a U.S.–Mexico soccer match in Pasadena, and deploring the way the U.S. goalie had complained that the post-match ceremony was conducted entirely in Spanish. Ten minutes later they were sighing that nothing in Los Angeles seemed to work quite as well as it did when they first came out west over 40 years ago.

And it never occurred to them that these two conversational topics might somehow be connected.

Meanwhile, at Redwood Heights Elementary in Oakland, Californian kindergartners are put through "Gender Spectrum Diversity Training" in order to teach them that there are "more than two genders."

The social capital of a nation is built up over centuries but squandered in a generation or two. With blithe self-confidence, the post-war West changed too much too fast. We changed everything, and yet we'll still wonder why everything's changed.
https://www.steynonline.com/11229/get-out-the-gloat


The first world is turned into the third world by the barbarian invasion that is illegal immigration.




And there you were back home, the war over, watching your telly in your knitted vest and tie. The telly hardly worked, you needed change for the coin-slot heater, and you'd used your last ration coupon on a tin of spam.

Mother England, you thought, has it come to this? Colonialism ended far too soon.
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Reply #109 - Apr 23rd, 2021 at 6:41pm
 
Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 6:12pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 12th, 2021 at 9:32pm:
Colonialism ended prematurely.

The jigaboos can't manage on their own.




The Jigaboos threw you people out, dear boy. It didn't take much. There you were in your pith helmet, Bombay bloomers and long white socks, picking out the best pieces of fruit in the market.

And there was Darkie with his spear, standing on one leg, watching you.

You said good day, paid top dollar for the fruit, and hightailed it out as quick as you could.

I'd say colonialism ended at just the right time.

You?

And they can't manage without aid. from the Civilising Imperials  - let's call them by their proper name.  The 'liberated' third world is demanding aid - ie colonial support - because they cannot function independently.  The civilising imperialists kept the worst local bastards in check. 'Colonialists' gone, the worst barbaric locals are back, monstering everyone in sight.

Civilisation - they are not ready for it = colonialism and civilising imperialism ended far too soon. You see it all over the place.



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Reply #110 - Apr 23rd, 2021 at 7:37pm
 
It's a good thing Britain ruled the seas back in the day because the savages were out to keep killing raiding looting all and sundry and they are the blacks.
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Reply #111 - Apr 23rd, 2021 at 8:50pm
 
Happg St George's Day!



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Reply #112 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 1:59am
 
An actor, British and getting to be elderly, had spoken off the record that although he was sympathetic of colonies over what they had lost, he was more concerned about all that his country had done for them.
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Reply #113 - Apr 24th, 2021 at 1:38pm
 
Johnnie wrote on Apr 23rd, 2021 at 7:37pm:
It's a good thing Britain ruled the seas back in the day because the savages were out to keep killing raiding looting all and sundry and they are the blacks.


Don't forget the sallows operating the slave trade....

Hmmm - I wonder how India would have gotten by under the Japanese if the British hadn't pulled out all stops to halt them in Burma... of course, India kicked the British out only to replace them with Russian aid..... hmmm... just hmmmm .... now they are turning to the West again for succour and comfort and defence treaties.

Hmmm... just hmmmmm....
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Reply #114 - Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:57pm
 
Negative (fail): Britain in Asia, Africa, Europe and Oceania.

Positive: Britain in Namerica, Samerica, Australia and Middle-East.


...and if you think Britain winning in the World Wars of Europe is a good thing. Think again, when its the concept of 'Military' that is losing overall in Europe against the likes of Music and Medicine.  Wink
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Reply #115 - May 3rd, 2021 at 3:23pm
 
Jasin wrote on Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:57pm:
Negative (fail): Britain in Asia, Africa, Europe and Oceania.

Positive: Britain in Namerica, Samerica, Australia and Middle-East.


...and if you think Britain winning in the World Wars of Europe is a good thing. Think again, when its the concept of 'Military' that is losing overall in Europe against the likes of Music and Medicine.  Wink



Are you saying that the country that lost two world wars and one world cup, should have won WW2. Seriously David Irving level history needed.....

I think you need to watch Mitchell and Webb's "Are we the baddies" clip.
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Reply #116 - May 12th, 2021 at 12:00pm
 
Anthony Claydon wrote on May 3rd, 2021 at 3:23pm:
Jasin wrote on Apr 28th, 2021 at 3:57pm:
Negative (fail): Britain in Asia, Africa, Europe and Oceania.

Positive: Britain in Namerica, Samerica, Australia and Middle-East.


...and if you think Britain winning in the World Wars of Europe is a good thing. Think again, when its the concept of 'Military' that is losing overall in Europe against the likes of Music and Medicine.  Wink



Are you saying that the country that lost two world wars and one world cup, should have won WW2. Seriously David Irving level history needed.....

I think you need to watch Mitchell and Webb's "Are we the baddies" clip.

Listen. Germany v Britain was the Battle of the Bad Guys.
Germany tried to be like the USA of Europe but Britain said "No - we are!". Germany lost the World War of Military/Politics/Religion in Europe.
...as too will France, as Britain this time steps back (Brexit) to leave the French out in front to face the Moslem's Wrath when it expends its last Great Jihad before submitting 'Empire' over to Israel. France will be genocided!

Europe as a whole is being empowered by Sport, Medicine, Cooking and more... all the 'Lefty' things and getting rid of the traditional Military/Political/Religious things that have oppressed it for something like 2000 years.

So Germany tried to be  the 'Bad Guy' of Europe and follow the USA way, but FAILED. As Laibach sings "We gave of the Power!" (and moved on). Politics in Europe is for Women these days, its all about Eurovision now.

...but Britain is Bi-Polar: part moving forward with Europe into the future, part still being part of the 'Western' USA and holding onto the European false past.

One day, after Germany, France & Italy have coughed up their Political/Military/Religious empowerments of old - moving away from being a subordinate to the Middle-East, to a more empowered true European way (to become the leading Music region of the world).
It will be left to Britain to face a unified Islam and Israel and unlike Germany, France & Italy who forfeited their old ways to admit to being 'European'. Britain will commit the ultimate FAIL and be crucified... only to live on via its successful Colonies. Great Britain will sink below the waves like a lost civilisation of Atlantis.  Wink


So in essence. German stood up to say "We are the Bad Guys. We are the heirs to the USA's Politics/Military/Religion style - here in Europe!"

...but Britain said and proved "No you're not, we are!"

...soon France will learn this, then Italy after.
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Reply #117 - May 12th, 2021 at 12:09pm
 
Britain as a Political/Military/Religious nation (much like the USA) is the BAD GUY, the VILLAIN.
Britain as a more European Sport/Medicine/Music nation is the Good guy (but as you can see, the English Soccer team is much 'weaker'  than the more 'European' German sides  Wink
...and that's why Germany could flog Brazil 7-1 too Wink

Germany chased a weakness back in the World Wars.
Now it follows its strength and leaves Politics, Military & Religion to the WOMEN.  Wink


So. Political/Military/Religious 'Britain' is the VILLIAN in all the 'Lefty' regions of EUROPE, ASIA,AFRICA & OCEANIA.
Hence the stuff ups of Hong Kong, Zimbabwe, South Africa to name some.
But it has done well and succeeded in creating successful Colonies in their own image and more with the Right-wing regions of Middle-East (Lawrence, Gordon, etc), North America (USA), Sahul (Aust) and South America.

There. How's that kiddo?
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Reply #118 - Jun 20th, 2021 at 1:08am
 
Yeah - never finish what they started.... genocides included....
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