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greggerypeccary Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 131456 Gender:	Re: John Howard on gun laws Reply #15 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:03pm Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 2:53pm: Our gun laws had no effect on homicides. Interesting claim. The only problem is, you have no way of proving it.
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ian Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 9451	Re: John Howard on gun laws Reply #16 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:06pm BigOl64 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 2:57pm: The gun laws are as meaningless now as they were when that little POS forced them in. yes, thats true. I often wonder why Howard got credit and continues to do so for somenthing which he promised but never actually did.
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BigOl64 Gold Member Offline Posts: 14438 Townsville QLD Gender:	Re: John Howard on gun laws Reply #17 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:16pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:03pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 2:53pm: Our gun laws had no effect on homicides. Interesting claim. The only problem is, you have no way of proving it. In the same way you and the rest of the howard supporters do.
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Reply #18 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:22pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 2:53pm:

Our gun laws had no effect on homicides.

Interesting claim.

The only problem is, you have no way of proving it.

In the same way you and the rest of the howard supporters do.

I've made no claim.

Can you prove the claim that was made by your fellow gun nut?

No, you can't.

Case closed.

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Reply #19 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:22pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 2:53pm:

Our gun laws had no effect on homicides.

Interesting claim.

The only problem is, you have no way of proving it.

In the same way you and the rest of the howard supporters do.

I've made no claim.

Can you prove the claim that was made by your fellow gun nut?

No, you can't.

Case closed.

Calm your tits Francine, just pointing out the stupidity of your comment. Grin

And that "case closed" shtick is seriously infantile, you might want reconsider using that when talking to adults.

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Reply #20 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:34pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:22pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 2:53pm:

Our gun laws had no effect on homicides.

Interesting claim.

The only problem is, you have no way of proving it.

In the same way you and the rest of the howard supporters do.

I've made no claim.

Can you prove the claim that was made by your fellow gun nut?

No, you can't.

Case closed.

Calm your tits Francine, just pointing out the stupidity of your comment.

There is absolutely nothing stupid about my comment.

He has no way of proving that "our gun laws had no effect on homicides".

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Reply #21 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 2:53pm:

Our gun laws had no effect on homicides.

Interesting claim.

The only problem is, you have no way of proving it.

Quote:

-The number of murder victims fluctuated slightly from 1993 to 2007
-The number of murder victims peaked in 1999,at 344; the number of manslaughter victims peaked in 2002,at 48
aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html

Homicides peaked 3 years after our 1996 gun laws.

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Reply #22 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

There is absolutely nothing stupid about my comment.

He has no way of proving that "our gun laws had no effect on homicides".

Or you and any other anti-gun hysteric proving that they do have a positive effect on homicide, which proves my point that they are meaningless.

Howard and his anti-gun hysterics are nothing more scared little children seeking simplistic solutions for complex problems. Well done you have achieved fkkk all.

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Reply #23 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:50pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 1:59pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 1:35pm:

Arent they lebanese christian?

They were muslims.

Bilal Skaf was photographed with several guns, he never had a firearm license so who let him hold them which is against the law?

Right, any eivdence, your word is untrustworthy

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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)

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Reply #24 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:54pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:34pm:

There is absolutely nothing stupid about my comment.

He has no way of proving that "our gun laws had no effect on homicides".

Or you and any other anti-gun hysteric proving that they do have a positive effect on homicide.

I've never made such a claim.

Do I need to tell you a third time?

The fact remains: he has no way of proving that "our gun laws had no effect on homicides".

It was a stupid statement.

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Reply #25 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:56pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 2:53pm:

Our gun laws had no effect on homicides.

Interesting claim.

The only problem is, you have no way of proving it.

Quote:

-The number of murder victims fluctuated slightly from 1993 to 2007
-The number of murder victims peaked in 1999,at 344; the number of manslaughter victims peaked in 2002,at 48
aic.gov.au/statistics/homicide.html

Homicides peaked 3 years after our 1996 gun laws.

That is not proof that "Our gun laws had no effect on homicides."

As I said, you have no way of proving your claim.

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Reply #26 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:58pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:50pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 1:59pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 1:35pm:

Arent they lebanese christian?

They were muslims.

Bilal Skaf was photographed with several guns, he never had a firearm license so who let him hold them which is against the law?

Right, any eivdence, your word is untrustworthy

The Bilal Skaf and his gang are Lebanese Muslims. Look it up.

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: John Howard on gun laws Reply #27 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 4:00pm I did https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwiche%E2%80%93Razzak%E2%80%93Fahda_family_confl ict Has no mention of Bilal Skaf, I didnt ask about Bilal Skaf, I asked whether this family was lebanese christian.
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Reply #28 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 4:31pm

BigOl64 wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:16pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 3:03pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 2:53pm:

Our gun laws had no effect on homicides.

Interesting claim.

The only problem is, you have no way of proving it.

In the same way you and the rest of the howard supporters do.

Howard passed his laws not to protect the general population .... you & me, but to protect government from those who might just want to use firearms to chase his & their furry stank asses someday.

It was a politically motivated stunt, nothing more, & the only effect it had here in Australia was stronger people control, not firearm control.

Criminals are immune/oblivious to such laws, while only honest, hard working, decent, law abiding citizens obey them.....but a time will come...a time will surely come.....

With every day that passes, a citizen becomes a lawbreaker, & gets possession of an illegal firearm. I don't have to prove it ..... I know it, & don't care who believes it or not.

.........a time will come...a time will surely come.....

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Prime Minister for Canyons Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 26906 Canberra Gender:	Re: John Howard on gun laws Reply #29 - Apr 5^th, 2016 at 4:32pm Cheers for not answering the actual question.
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