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Re: don't mention Islam
Reply #195 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:28pm

Karnal wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:19pm:

I have never met one. I wonder why?

You're an Islamophobe, and you avoid talking to Muslims at all costs?

That, and possibly something else.

FD doesn't want to talk about it.

Ah.

I'm sure he has many questions, though.

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Reply #196 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:30pm

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

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I think the fact that most of the world's Muslim's live in peace indicates with strong likelihood that they translate the Quran peacefully.

Isn't it nice that they have you to tell them what they think. Again, do you think asking them what they think is too ourageous?

Not at all. I have made it quite clear that i have spoken with many Muslims about what they think.

Did you miss me saying that in your rush to repeat the same post over and over again? Despite it being repeatedly answered?

Tell me, is that a habit of yours or are you doing it for my benefit?

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Reply #197 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:31pm

mothra wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

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I think the fact that most of the world's Muslim's live in peace indicates with strong likelihood that they translate the Quran peacefully.

Isn't it nice that they have you to tell them what they think. Again, do you think asking them what they think is too ourageous?

Not at all. I have made it quite clear that i have spoken with many Muslims about what they think.

Did you miss me saying that in your rush to repeat the same post over and over again? Despite it being repeatedly answered?

Tell me, is that a habit of yours or are you doing it for my benefit?

It's a habit.

Don't take it personally.

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Re: don't mention Islam
Reply #198 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:31pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

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I think the fact that most of the world's Muslim's live in peace indicates with strong likelihood that they translate the Quran peacefully.

Isn't it nice that they have you to tell them what they think. Again, do you think asking them what they think is too ourageous?

Not at all. I have made it quite clear that i have spoken with many Muslims about what they think.

Did you miss me saying that in your rush to repeat the same post over and over again? Despite it being repeatedly answered?

Tell me, is that a habit of yours or are you doing it for my benefit?

It's a habit.

Don't take it personally.

I see.

It's very annoying. Do you think he knows that?

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Re: don't mention Islam
Reply #199 - Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:37pm

mothra wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:31pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

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I think the fact that most of the world's Muslim's live in peace indicates with strong likelihood that they translate the Quran peacefully.

Isn't it nice that they have you to tell them what they think. Again, do you think asking them what they think is too ourageous?

Not at all. I have made it quite clear that i have spoken with many Muslims about what they think.

Did you miss me saying that in your rush to repeat the same post over and over again? Despite it being repeatedly answered?

Tell me, is that a habit of yours or are you doing it for my benefit?

It's a habit.

Don't take it personally.

I see.

It's very annoying. Do you think he knows that?

It's extremely annoying, and it makes me lose interest very quickly.

No, I don't think he knows.

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Re: don't mention Islam
Reply #200 - Apr 10^th, 2016 at 8:14am

mothra wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:27pm:

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I think the fact that most of the world's Muslim's live in peace indicates with strong likelihood that they translate the Quran peacefully.

Isn't it nice that they have you to tell them what they think. Again, do you think asking them what they think is too ourageous?

Not at all. I have made it quite clear that i have spoken with many Muslims about what they think.

Did you miss me saying that in your rush to repeat the same post over and over again? Despite it being repeatedly answered?

Tell me, is that a habit of yours or are you doing it for my benefit?

And I asked you what you asked them about. No response. Do you want me to repeat that question as well? Or did you just miss it?

People have however asked Muslims from around the world what they think about many specific issues regarding Islam and politics. They are more than happy to tell you what they said. They even posted it on their website. If you are going to speak on behalf of the world's Muslims, don't you think that would be a far better place to start than your little fantasy about being able to tell what Muslims think by whether they chop their neighbour's head off on a daily basis, or pretending that the lesbian Muslim you met at the communist party AGM is representative?

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Reply #201 - Apr 10^th, 2016 at 11:58am

FD is this you saying we should refrain from mentioning Islam when mentioning Islamic terrorism?

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freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2007 at 4:32pm:

There is more than enough in human nature to make people violent. There is no need to recourse to religion and to do so usually oversimplifies the problem in way that make it worse.

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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.

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Reply #202 - Apr 10^th, 2016 at 12:04pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 10^th, 2016 at 11:58am:

FD is this you saying we should refrain from mentioning Islam when mentioning Islamic terrorism?

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freediver wrote on Jul 19^th, 2007 at 4:32pm:

There is more than enough in human nature to make people violent. There is no need to recourse to religion and to do so usually oversimplifies the problem in way that make it worse.

I think you’ll find 2007 FD was saying something completely different, Gandalf.

Google: taqiyya.

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Reply #203 - Apr 11^th, 2016 at 4:20pm

mothra wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

I'm saying your views on Mohammed are wrong FD.

Was i not clear?

Mothra, are you going to explain for us all how I am wrong about Muhammed?

Also, as you are so keen to speak on behalf of the world's Muslims, would you like to comment on the issues raised in this article about UK Muslims? Do you think this presents a far more sensible and realistic approach to assessing the opinions of Muslims than your "I know a feminist Muslim" approach?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1460355004

Do you see anything that could be regarded as peaceful, but still a problem for civilised societies?

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Reply #204 - Apr 11^th, 2016 at 5:54pm

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2016 at 4:20pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

I'm saying your views on Mohammed are wrong FD.

Was i not clear?

Mothra, are you going to explain for us all how I am wrong about Muhammed?

Also, as you are so keen to speak on behalf of the world's Muslims, would you like to comment on the issues raised in this article about UK Muslims? Do you think this presents a far more sensible and realistic approach to assessing the opinions of Muslims than your "I know a feminist Muslim" approach?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1460355004

Do you see anything that could be regarded as peaceful, but still a problem for civilised societies?

Do you see yourself as racist?

Why or why not?

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Reply #205 - Apr 11^th, 2016 at 9:43pm

freediver wrote on Apr 11^th, 2016 at 4:20pm:

mothra wrote on Apr 9^th, 2016 at 10:25pm:

I'm saying your views on Mohammed are wrong FD.

Was i not clear?

Mothra, are you going to explain for us all how I am wrong about Muhammed?

Also, as you are so keen to speak on behalf of the world's Muslims, would you like to comment on the issues raised in this article about UK Muslims? Do you think this presents a far more sensible and realistic approach to assessing the opinions of Muslims than your "I know a feminist Muslim" approach?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1460355004

Do you see anything that could be regarded as peaceful, but still a problem for civilised societies?

I said i have known many Muslims and spoken to many Muslim feminists, FD. It's a little more involved than an "I know a feminist Muslim" approach.

Is this why Karnal keeps accusing you of telling porkies? You just make it up to suit yourself?

As for where you are wrong on Mohammed, it has been pointed out to you many, many times but you seem reluctant to concede. I posted up a very esteemed documentary about Mohammed and Women for your edification. It appears you did not watch it?

As for your link to one of Herbie's threads, you can't honestly expect me to take that seriously, can you? You're going to need to do better than that FD.

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Karnal Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 98425	Re: don't mention Islam Reply #206 - Apr 11^th, 2016 at 10:06pm Ee-gad, Mother, you’re right! FD is now quoting Herbie posts as proof.
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Reply #207 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 7:33am

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I said i have known many Muslims and spoken to many Muslim feminists, FD.

You also claimed to be able to tell what the world's Muslims are thinking based on them refraining from hacking their neighbours' heads off on a daily basis. Or do I have you confused with someone else?

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It's a little more involved than an "I know a feminist Muslim" approach.

Have you asked them their opinion on anything? If so, what? Or did you discover their political views through some kind of osmotic process like the other apologists we have here?

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As for where you are wrong on Mohammed, it has been pointed out to you many, many times but you seem reluctant to concede. I posted up a very esteemed documentary about Mohammed and Women for your edification. It appears you did not watch it?

Correct. And yes I am reluctant to concede based on the feeble counter-arguments that have been produced so far. You are not exactly helping there.

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As for your link to one of Herbie's threads, you can't honestly expect me to take that seriously, can you? You're going to need to do better than that FD.

Of course you won't take it seriously. People asked Muslims their opinion in a systematic manner and published the results. After all, you once met a lesbian Muslim at your local communist party meeting. You know what Muslims think, and asking them just confuses the issue. You cannot tell me what they think, or what you discussed with them, because that would confuse the issue also. The best you can do is mumble that they have a peaceful interpretation of Muhammed's head hacking.

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Reply #208 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 8:19am

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Do you see yourself as racist?

Why or why not?

And herein lies the tenuous limb from which the whole argument hangs.

The Islamic religion/ Cult whatever is not a RACE, it is a Religion/Cult.
Therefore, you cannot be accused of being a racist by disagreeing or disliking a religion/cult.

Muslims come from many races, its like a cancer it spreads and infects every country.
It is not from any one race, any one colour, any one country.

If an Australian brain dead moron converts to Islam and I say I dislike Muslims, am I being racist against someone from my own country, of course not, that is impossible.
But in order to run a guilt trip and manipulate circumstances and the law to their advantage, Muzzos play the race card, what a crock.

The sooner we take them to task about this inventive little rort, the sooner we could approach this cancer for what it is and eliminate the biggest threat to human kind since Hitler.

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I HAVE A DREAM
A WONDERFUL, PEACEFUL, BEAUTIFUL DREAM.
A DREAM OF A WORLD THAT HAS NEVER KNOWN ISLAM
A DREAM OF A WORLD FREE FROM THE HORRORS OF ISLAM.

SUCH A WONDERFUL DREAM
O HOW I WISH IT WERE TRU

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Reply #209 - Apr 12^th, 2016 at 8:26am

Valkie wrote on Apr 12^th, 2016 at 8:19am:

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Do you see yourself as racist?

Why or why not?

And herein lies the tenuous limb from which the whole argument hangs.

The Islamic religion/ Cult whatever is not a RACE, it is a Religion/Cult.
Therefore, you cannot be accused of being a racist by disagreeing or disliking a religion/cult.

Muslims come from many races, its like a cancer it spreads and infects every country.
It is not from any one race, any one colour, any one country.

If an Australian brain dead nice person converts to Islam and I say I dislike Muslims, am I being racist against someone from my own country, of course not, that is impossible.
But in order to run a guilt trip and manipulate circumstances and the law to their advantage, Muzzos play the race card, what a crock.

The sooner we take them to task about this inventive little rort, the sooner we could approach this cancer for what it is and eliminate the biggest threat to human kind since Hitler.

I keep posting this and never get a satisfactory reply.
So here we go again.

I dated a girl originally from Turkey who was totally atheist and identified as Muslim Persian. I liked the ideas in her head. She was into public nudity and wine...very nice girl Wink

So just imagine if she had a twin sister who had a really bad case of the Allah virus, and I found the ideas inside her brain so repugnant I could not stand to be in the same room as her.

Would that make me Islamophobic, racist?

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