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House with a problem
Apr 3rd, 2016 at 10:30pm
 
Any building experts online here at Ozpolitic?


I want to buy a house & it has a problem.
See the picture.
There is no mortar left in some of the bricks
& it is quite bad in the area shown.

How can mortar wash away?
The house was built in the late 80s &
maybe not enough cement was used in the mortar?

( My place now has such hard mortar that it turns a masonry bit red hot if you try to drill it.)

Is this problem in the photo serious?
It's all around the house but the worst spot is in the photo.
What is holding the building up?
Would it fall down if there was an earthquake?

What would it cost to fix it?

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Reply #1 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 10:55pm
 
Doesn't anyone know?
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Reply #2 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 10:59pm
 

I am not a building expert.
If it is not a load bearing wall, not as big a problem.

A building inspection by a qualified person might help.

Certainly it is a bargaining area.
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Reply #3 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 10:59pm
 
I knew a couple who bought a house where very large cracks had been plastered & painted over by the seller.

3 months later a whole wall collapsed & the the place was condemned by the local council
& had to be bulldozed down.
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Reply #4 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:02pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 10:59pm:
I am not a building expert.
If it is not a load bearing wall, not as big a problem.

A building inspection by a qualified person might help.

Certainly it is a bargaining area.



I could get an Archicentre report but it seems that it's so bleeding obvious
that it's serious - I'd be wasting my money on the report.

Yes - it's a bargaining chip.
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Reply #5 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:05pm
 
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 10:59pm:
I am not a building expert.
If it is not a load bearing wall, not as big a problem.

A building inspection by a qualified person might help.

Certainly it is a bargaining area.


This all wouldn't be an issue if by law the seller had to provide a report but of course this would cause the whole housing market to collapse overnight because there are so many dumps that need major work.

The most expensive purchase you make in a lifetime and safety issues fly right out the door in favour of turning over a quick buck Sad
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Reply #6 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:14pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:05pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 10:59pm:
I am not a building expert.
If it is not a load bearing wall, not as big a problem.

A building inspection by a qualified person might help.

Certainly it is a bargaining area.


This all wouldn't be an issue if by law the seller had to provide a report but of course this would cause the whole housing market to collapse overnight because there are so many dumps that need major work.

The most expensive purchase you make in a lifetime and safety issues fly right out the door in favour of turning over a quick buck Sad


That's right sir Nail.
You need a road worthy certificate to sell a car but nothing to sell a house.


Here's a picture from another place.
the wood is rotten under the shower.
the question is how bad is it?
It could be just one board but it might be the whole floor!


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Reply #7 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:18pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:14pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:05pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 10:59pm:
I am not a building expert.
If it is not a load bearing wall, not as big a problem.

A building inspection by a qualified person might help.

Certainly it is a bargaining area.


This all wouldn't be an issue if by law the seller had to provide a report but of course this would cause the whole housing market to collapse overnight because there are so many dumps that need major work.

The most expensive purchase you make in a lifetime and safety issues fly right out the door in favour of turning over a quick buck Sad


That's right sir Nail.
You need a road worthy certificate to sell a car but nothing to sell a house.


Here's a picture from another place.
the wood is rotten under the shower.
the question is how bad is it?
It could be just one board but it might be the whole floor!




I reckon if you bought that for the stupid prices they are asking now a few hours later you would have buyers remorse and you'd need a large dose of Valium just to get to sleep Sad
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Reply #8 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:20pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:05pm:
This all wouldn't be an issue if by law the seller had to provide a report



why? bobby is aware of the problem and still looking at buying it. When is your brain going to connect with reality?
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Reply #9 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:25pm
 
Bobby. wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:02pm:
Sprintcyclist wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 10:59pm:
I am not a building expert.
If it is not a load bearing wall, not as big a problem.

A building inspection by a qualified person might help.

Certainly it is a bargaining area.



I could get an Archicentre report but it seems that it's so bleeding obvious
that it's serious - I'd be wasting my money on the report.

Yes - it's a bargaining chip.


I think a carpenter from a local paper would be a good first step.
His comments won't be binding.
At this stage, you want someone qualified onsite to say if the damage is structural or not.
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Reply #10 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:25pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:20pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:05pm:
This all wouldn't be an issue if by law the seller had to provide a report



why? bobby is aware of the problem and still looking at buying it. When is your brain going to connect with reality?




Dear John,
It depends how serious the problem is.
The rotting wood in that bathroom - I could fix it myself but
the house with the mortar out of the bricks - that's another story.
How serious is it Einstein?
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Bobby. wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 10:30pm:
Any building experts online here at Ozpolitic?


I want to buy a house & it has a problem.
See the picture.
There is no mortar left in some of the bricks
& it is quite bad in the area shown.

How can mortar wash away?
The house was built in the late 80s &
maybe not enough cement was used in the mortar?

( My place now has such hard mortar that it turns a masonry bit red hot if you try to drill it.)

Is this problem in the photo serious?
It's all around the house but the worst spot is in the photo.
What is holding the building up?
Would it fall down if there was an earthquake?

What would it cost to fix it?

cheers
sir Bobby





Hi Bobby

I'm not expert, but I have seen this before. As far as I'm aware, there are two possible causes. One is not enough cement used when mixing the mortar. The other is a missing damp coursing. Moisture rising causes the mortar to wash out.

It's not hard to fix, but it is tedious. You have to scrape out the mortar a few bricks at a time, take out the bricks and then relay them with new mortar (install damp coursing on the bottom as you go). Be careful not to take out to many bricks at a time or you'll cause the wall above to collapse. For safety sake, I'd do no more than 3 bricks at a time.

It's fairly easy to do yourself. Otherwise hire someone to do it for you.
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Reply #12 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:26pm
 
John Smith wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:20pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:05pm:
This all wouldn't be an issue if by law the seller had to provide a report



why? bobby is aware of the problem and still looking at buying it. When is your brain going to connect with reality?


It's potentially dangerous and not fit to live in. If the wall collapses on someone then of course the real estate scumbag who sold it is indemnified and gets to keep his ill gotten gains Sad
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Reply #13 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:27pm
 
As for the shower, assume it's all rotten.


Work out what it will cost you to repair all this stuff then get the seller to knock that of the price.
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Reply #14 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:28pm
 
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:26pm:
John Smith wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:20pm:
Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:05pm:
This all wouldn't be an issue if by law the seller had to provide a report



why? bobby is aware of the problem and still looking at buying it. When is your brain going to connect with reality?


It's potentially dangerous and not fit to live in. If the wall collapses on someone then of course the real estate scumbag is indemnified and gets to keep his ill gotten gains Sad


you're potentially dangerous.
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