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Re: Not so 'moderate' Muslims - and Western inertia
Reply #210 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 11:07am
 
GordyL wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 10:48am:
So you're a HuT supporter now?


If thats what objecting to baseless claims is - yeah I guess I am.

In case you need reminding, this is the yet-to-be substantiated claim I'm talking about:

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Is disagreeing with Hizbut Tahrir Islamophobic?
Hizbut Tahrir say it is.
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A resident Islam critic who claims to represent western values said:
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Outlawing the enemy's uniform - hijab, islamic beard - is not depriving one's own people of their freedoms.
 
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Reply #211 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 11:33am
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 10:43am:
You agreed Islamophobia is partly racism. 


Quote me.
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Reply #212 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:07pm
 
Do you refuse to answer the question, FD? Yes or no.
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Reply #213 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 12:37pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 9:10am:
Sure. It could be.
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Reply #214 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 2:36pm
 
Little point arguing with so called Aussie patriots.

Their dreams are littered with swarthy Muslim men hitting them over the head with oversized halal sausages cooked on the ashes of a burning Aussie flag.

Remember, these are the same people who lament flag burning whilst wiping their sand encrusted ar@eholes with beach towels emblazoned with the sothern cross and the union jack.

When someone's idea of the ideal woman is a racist redhead whose mother took nine months dropping a deuce, logic and rationality becomes moot.
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Reply #215 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 5:45pm
 
Gabriel Knight wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 2:36pm:
Little point arguing with so called Aussie patriots.

Their dreams are littered with swarthy Muslim men hitting them over the head with oversized halal sausages cooked on the ashes of a burning Aussie flag.

Remember, these are the same people who lament flag burning whilst wiping their sand encrusted ar@eholes with beach towels emblazoned with the sothern cross and the union jack.

When someone's idea of the ideal woman is a racist redhead whose mother took nine months dropping a deuce, logic and rationality becomes moot.


Indeed it does, Gabriel. If the Muselman wasn't there, they'd be working on the Vietnamese, or the Chinks, or the Jews. If they didn't have them, they'd find racial subgroups - Glaswegians, Liverpudlians, Brummies. My father fought them in Sydney pubs in the 1960s.

In the end, of course, we'll always have the boongs. Our cup runneth over, no?
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Reply #216 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:18pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 10:43am:
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 10:31am:
This is you destroying the English language:


You agreed Islamophobia is partly racism. Would you mind explaining what else you think it is - and you may destroy the English language in the process if you wish.

By the way, 'racism' was already a "destruction" of the English language even before I used it. There is no such thing as a "race".



US-style campus chalking campaigns are now occurring in Australia:

One of Australia’s most prestigious universities has condemned vandals who scrawled anti-Muslim messages including “Stop the Mosques” around its Parkville campus today.

The University of Melbourne’s Vice-Chancellor Glyn Davis has decried the offensive chalk slogans, saying they caused distress and were at odds with its diverse and inclusive community.

The graffiti, which also included “Islam is not a race” and “Freedom of Speech”, surfaced this morning at seven sites around the campus, and was quickly removed by maintenance staff …

In a statement on the university’s Facebook page, Prof Davis wrote that the “offensive slogans” were unacceptable.

“While the University community moved quickly to identify and remove offensive messages, they still have caused distress,” he said …

“Such slogans, chalked anonymously and intended to hurt, run counter to the vision of a safe, inclusive, connected and respectful University community, one that embraces diversity.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/antiislam-vandals-scrawl-slogans-on-un...

Let’s work through these anonymously-chalked “offensive slogans”. Perhaps “Stop the Mosques” is unpleasant, but, then again,so is a campaign by inner-Melbourne leftoids to stop an aged care centre for the disadvantaged and homeless. One Australian Muslim academic recently called for a mosque stoppage himself, preferring greater investment in science and research. “Islam is not a race” is simply a statement of fact. And “Freedom of Speech” ought not be offensive to anyone, or at least anyone who respects freedom of speech.
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Reply #217 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:29pm
 
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While the University community moved quickly to identify and remove offensive messages


I wonder if this includes "freedom of speech" scrawled on the footpath....
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Reply #218 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:44pm
 
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:29pm:
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While the University community moved quickly to identify and remove offensive messages


I wonder if this includes "freedom of speech" scrawled on the footpath....



ESPECIALLY freedom of speech.

Very hurtful. Freedom of speech is a hurtful, racists, far right, fascist concept.

Very hurtful. There should be a law against it.

No, wait - there is....





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Reply #219 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:49pm
 
Frank wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:44pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:29pm:
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While the University community moved quickly to identify and remove offensive messages


I wonder if this includes "freedom of speech" scrawled on the footpath....



ESPECIALLY freedom of speech.

Very hurtful. Freedom of speech is a hurtful, racists, far right, fascist concept.

Very hurtful. There should be a law against it.

No, wait - there is....


So its wrong to remove graffiti now?
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Reply #220 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:54pm
 
Trust Gandalf to identify the key issue here....
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Reply #221 - Apr 9th, 2016 at 8:17pm
 
polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:49pm:
Frank wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:44pm:
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:29pm:
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While the University community moved quickly to identify and remove offensive messages


I wonder if this includes "freedom of speech" scrawled on the footpath....



ESPECIALLY freedom of speech.

Very hurtful. Freedom of speech is a hurtful, racists, far right, fascist concept.

Very hurtful. There should be a law against it.

No, wait - there is....


So its wrong to remove graffiti now?

You are a very dishonest person and you know it.  Is it wrong to remove a chalked 'Freedom of speech' sign from a university footpath because it offends Muslims? 

Yes, it is wrong.

If Muslims are offended by a 'freedom of speech' sign on a university campus then they should all be chucked out of the country, never to return. How dare you Muslims chancers question freedom of speech?

Freedom of speech signs offend you? Well it touches a raw nerve which shows that you are a sinister, alien, malignant lot.






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Reply #222 - Apr 10th, 2016 at 7:43am
 
freediver wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:54pm:
Trust Gandalf to identify the key issue here....


Apparently I am. Frank here is frothing at the mouth because the university had the hide to want to remove graffiti.

Do you think they should have left it there FD?
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Reply #223 - Apr 10th, 2016 at 8:20am
 
Have you ever been to a university Gandalf?
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Reply #224 - Apr 10th, 2016 at 9:36am
 
Frank wrote on Apr 9th, 2016 at 6:18pm:
The graffiti, which also included “Islam is not a race” and “Freedom of Speech”, surfaced this morning at seven sites around the campus, and was quickly removed by maintenance staff …

In a statement on the university’s Facebook page, Prof Davis wrote that the “offensive slogans” were unacceptable.

“While the University community moved quickly to identify and remove offensive messages, they still have caused distress,” he said …

“Such slogans, chalked anonymously and intended to hurt,


As a university academic he would be perfectly aware that anti-Islam sentiments are in no way correctly described as 'racism', and he would be perfectly aware that these graffiti are intended to inform and support our Western heritage - and not hurt, per se.

He would also be aware that if someone like Mark Steyn, Geert Wilders, Tony Abbott, Robert Spencer, Nigel Farage and the like were to be invited to give a talk at the university - all hell would break loose that would require a team of hired security staff to keep the baying Lefty crowds from completely swamping the occasion.

I don't agree with graffiti of any kind, left or right, but it comes to this when those opposed to the Islamisation of Australia and the West are struggling to find a voice in the mainstream media because of political funk and non-discriminatory cowardice.



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