Yadda wrote on Mar 25
th, 2016 at 11:21pm:
And i would argue, if that
reasoning [i.e. the application of common-sense observation of human motives]
is sufficient to cause people to
be law-abiding members of society, ......then please can you explain why do we see such widespread lawlessness within almost every human society today ?
AN ANSWER [which i would suggest];
The widespread lawlessness which we see, is because the political leftists, and political progressives, have undermined any widespread respect for the traditional rules and laws in societies.
Or would you say no, to that argument, and make the case that political leftists, and political progressives have been doing a wonderful job, in producing peaceful and harmonious human societies ?
The problem you have, proving a correlation between atheism and lawlessness, is that we live in a time and a place, that is much more peaceful, and that is much safer than any time where the theist sociopaths held sway.
Despite the sensationalist headlines... we are living in a utopia, when it comes to freedom from violence and crime, despite the fags having the audacity to come out in public.
Yadda wrote on Mar 25
th, 2016 at 11:21pm:
boxy, You have asserted that;
Quote:Most atheists agree wholeheartedly with most of the basic "commandments", like not killing and cheating and lying.
Do they ?
Really ?
Well, i have argued that the result of this social engineering and
experimentation in ethics, by political leftists, and political progressives [UPON A SOCIETY
WITH A NOW, LARGELY SECULAR/ATHEIST POPULACE], .....has actually resulted in
a widespread moral and ethical abdication among the real children, of those applied 'progressive' social 'theories'.
Show me a social engineering experiment that goes against core commandments such as not killing, cheating or lying.