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Mar 14th, 2016 at 11:28am
 
AGW: March smashes Australian heat records

This is after December and January smashed global temperature records.

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National records were smashed in the scorching start to March, as the driest January-February in parts of northern Australia for half a century led to an unusual build-up of heat, according to the Bureau of Meteorology. In a special climate statement on the heatwave that is yet to ebb in parts of south-eastern Australia, the bureau said the first three days of the month were each warmer than any previous March day, based on area-averaged temperatures across the nation.

The average maximum temperature of 38.14 degrees on March 2 broke the previous record for the month by 0.98 degrees – a margin that has only been surpassed once before, in July 1975, the bureau said...

...Melbourne, which has seen day-time temperatures running about four degrees above average so far this month, can expect a week of relatively cool to mild conditions.

Little rain has fallen in the city's gauges since the end of January, and there is little in prospect for the coming week.

During the recent heatwave, Melbourne recorded its highest overnight minimum temperature on record for March, with 27.7 degrees on March 9

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/scorching-start-to-autumn-smashed-national-heat-records-bureau-of-meteorology-says-20160312-gnha5q.html#ixzz42ptEiKeB


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Global temperatures leapt in February, lifting warming from pre-industrial levels to beyond 1.5 degrees, and stoking concerns about a "climate emergency".
According to NASA analysis, average temperatures last month were 1.35 degrees above the norm for the 1951-1980 period.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/environment/climate-change/true-shocker-spike-in-global-temperatures-stuns-scientists-20160313-gni10t.html#ixzz42puuiDlc


February 2016 spike:
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Reply #1 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 1:23pm
 
Wait, there's more:

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Red dot is February 2016:
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It was so hot that February had the single biggest recorded monthly temperature anomaly (deviation from the 1951-1980 average temperature) — a whopping 2.4°F (1.35°C) above the average temperature for the month. The previous record deviation from the average — 2.0°F (1.13°C) — you may recall, was set in January.

In fact, as The Weather Channel noted, “The five largest monthly global warm anomalies in NASA’s database have all occurred within the past five months”:

By all indications, March will be near the top of that last too. And that means that it’s increasingly likely that 2016 will be even hotter than 2015, which itself was the hottest year on record since … 2014.

If you detect a pattern here of human-caused global warming, you are in the company of more than 97 percent of climate scientists


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Reply #2 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 1:24pm
 

40 in Perth yesterday.

26 overnight.

40 again today.

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Reply #3 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 1:37pm
 
When I get the time I will dig out some family farm records from the 1890s and post the relevant bits. Then you'll know what prolonged heat & drought are.

Toughen up
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Reply #4 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 2:55pm
 
bogarde73 wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 1:37pm:
When I get the time I will dig out some family farm records from the 1890s and post the relevant bits. Then you'll know what prolonged heat & drought are.

Toughen up


Bogarde's problem is a drought of intellect.
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Reply #5 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:35pm
 
USA has had the warmest winter on record and March is headed for the warmest as well.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3483119/Warmest-winter-record-rev...

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Warmest winter on record revealed for US: El Nino and global warming blamed for temperatures 4.6 degree above normal
Average temperature for the Lower 48 was 36.8 degrees, 4.6 above normal
Breaks the record set in 1999-2000
Christmas Eve saw high temperatures with New Yorkers sunbathing

Federal meteorologists say the winter that has just ended was the hottest in U.S. records, thanks to the combination of El Nino and man-made global warming.

The average temperature for the Lower 48 from December through February - known as meteorological winter - was 36.8 degrees, 4.6 degrees above normal. It breaks the record set in 1999-2000.

The average temperature for the Lower 48 from December through February — known as meteorological winter — was 36.8 degrees, 4.6 degrees above normal.

'The strong El Niño that was present in the Equatorial Pacific interacted with other climate patterns to influence U.S. weather conditions during winter and February,' the NOAA said.

Last month was the seventh warmest February.
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration climate scientist Jake Crouch said a super-hot December pushed the winter to record territory.

Forty-six states across the contiguous U.S. had a winter temperature that was above average, it said.

Much-above average winter temperatures were observed across the West, Great Plains, Midwest, Southeast, and Northeast.
Each of the six New England states had a winter temperature that was record warm.
Above-average winter precipitation was observed across the Northwest, Central Plains, Midwest, and along the East Coast. Twelve states had winter precipitation totals that were much above average. Iowa was record wet with 6.20 inches of precipitation, 3.07 inches above average, surpassing the previous record of 5.79 inches in 1914/1915.

The fall of 2015 also was a U.S. record.
All six New England states had their warmest winters.
Every state in the Lower 48 had winters at least 1.7 degrees warmer than normal.
Alaska was 10.6 degrees warmer than normal.
Records go back to 1895.

Eric Holthaus at Slate points out that that it took from the dawn of the industrial age until last October to reach the first 1°C increase. But it's only taken the last five months to go 0.4°C further.

'Even accounting for the margin of error associated with these preliminary datasets, that means it's virtually certain that February handily beat the record set just last month,' he writes. 'That's stunning.'

WHAT IS EL NIÑO?

El Niño is caused by a shift in the distribution of warm water in the Pacific Ocean around the equator.
Usually the wind blows strongly from east to west, due to the rotation of the Earth, causing water to pile up in the western part of the Pacific.
This pulls up colder water from the deep ocean in the eastern Pacific.

However, in an El Niño, the winds pushing the water get weaker and cause the warmer water to shift back towards the east. This causes the eastern Pacific to get warmer.

But as the ocean temperature is linked to the wind currents, this causes the winds to grow weaker still and so the ocean grows warmer, meaning the El Niño grows. This change in air and ocean currents around the equator can have a major impact on the weather patterns around the globe by creating pressure anomalies in the atmosphere. For instance, certain regions of the Arctic were more than 16°C warmer than 'normal' for the month of February.

In the Northern Hemisphere, the February anomaly 1.17°C was a full 0.32°C warmer than the previous record set in April 1998.
Temperatures in the tropics and the Southern Hemisphere were not at record levels in February.

While the Arctic temperature anomaly is large, big temperature swings in the Arctic region aren't unusual, especially during the winter months.
Those swings are also normally somewhat transient, so the extra heat represented in February could dissipate over the next few weeks.

If that happens, it doesn't appear the heat from the El Niño by itself will be enough to continue pushing temperatures to new records later in the year.

Spencer told the Washington Post that the February data proves 'there has been warming. The question is how much warming there's been.'

Federal meteorologists say the winter that has just ended was the hottest in U.S. records, thanks to the combination of El Nino and man-made global warming.

February's unusually warm temperatures mark the fifth month that global average temperatures were more than 1°C above average
The overall temperature at our planet's surface was 1.13°C above the 1951-1980 average in January.
The previous hottest month of January, according to Nasa records that go back to 1880, was set in 2007 when it was 0.95°C above average.
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Reply #6 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:36pm
 
You don't want cold weather Svengali. Your little Asian penis would shrink even more to a point where you'll end up with  a mangina.
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Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:36pm:
You don't want cold weather Svengali. Your little Asian penis would shrink even more to a point where you'll end up with  a mangina.


Thanks for sharing your experience.
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Reply #8 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:42pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:36pm:
You don't want cold weather Svengali. Your little Asian penis would shrink even more to a point where you'll end up with  a mangina.


Thanks for sharing your experience.
You'll have to sit down to pee. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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My Country

The love of field and coppice,
Of green and shaded lanes.
Of ordered woods and gardens
Is running in your veins,
Strong love of grey-blue distance
Brown streams and soft dim skies
I know but cannot share it,
My love is otherwise.

I love a sunburnt country,
A land of sweeping plains,
Of ragged mountain ranges,
Of droughts and flooding rains.
I love her far horizons,
I love her jewel-sea,
Her beauty and her terror -
The wide brown land for me!


A stark white ring-barked forest
All tragic to the moon,
The sapphire-misted mountains,
The hot gold hush of noon.
Green tangle of the brushes,
Where lithe lianas coil,
And orchids deck the tree-tops
And ferns the warm dark soil.

Core of my heart, my country!
Her pitiless blue sky,
When sick at heart, around us,
We see the cattle die -
But then the grey clouds gather,
And we can bless again
The drumming of an army,
The steady, soaking rain.


Core of my heart, my country!
Land of the Rainbow Gold,
For flood and fire and famine,
She pays us back threefold
Over the thirsty paddocks,
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Watch, after many days,
The filmy veil of greenness
That thickens as we gaze.

An opal-hearted country,
A wilful, lavish land -
All you who have not loved her,
You will not understand -
Though earth holds many splendours,
Wherever I may die,
I know to what brown country
My homing thoughts will fly.


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Reply #10 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 6:03pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:42pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:36pm:
You don't want cold weather Svengali. Your little Asian penis would shrink even more to a point where you'll end up with  a mangina.


Thanks for sharing your experience.
You'll have to sit down to pee. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


That doesn't seem to have troubled you.
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Reply #12 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 6:14pm
 
Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:42pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:36pm:
You don't want cold weather Svengali. Your little Asian penis would shrink even more to a point where you'll end up with  a mangina.


Thanks for sharing your experience.
You'll have to sit down to pee. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Just take a very deep breath, hold your nose for five minutes while keeping your mouth closed and blow as hard as you can... .. I read in the New England Journal of Medicine that this will cause a mangina to pop out again...
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Reply #13 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 6:16pm
 
In my region- way out in the farkin' bush- we have killer heat as a norm. This year be lucky if we have  had a handful ( 8 days over 38 ) hot days- eerily we have been having low to high 20s most days- today 23 and that has been around the norm. I hope we have a freezing winter now and I will be over joyed.  Cheesy
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Reply #14 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 6:19pm
 
There were movements galore in Cambra,'
For that turd had passed around,
That Turnbull's bull had bulled its way on through,
And he roamed the wild Lib pastures,
Where the policies grew wild,
And he'd come along for Tony's ass to chew.
With a Bishop in his pocket,
And a Peta scandal too,
He looked the goods a moment, that was true,
But when he thought that policies
Were coppers through and through,
The voters all about began to spew.
So they formed a voting bloc
Very like a butcher's block,
And set about his downfall so it's true.
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Reply #15 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 6:26pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 6:19pm:
There were movements galore in Cambra,'
For that turd had passed around,
That Turnbull's bull had bulled its way on through,
And he roamed the wild Lib pastures,
Where the policies grew wild,
And he'd come along for Tony's ass to chew.
With a Bishop in his pocket,
And a Peta scandal too,
He looked the goods a moment, that was true,
But when he thought that policies
Were coppers through and through,
The voters all about began to spew.
So they formed a voting bloc
Very like a butcher's block,
And set about his downfall so it's true.

LOL  Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #16 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 6:29pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 6:14pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:42pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:40pm:
Mr Hammer wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 5:36pm:
You don't want cold weather Svengali. Your little Asian penis would shrink even more to a point where you'll end up with  a mangina.


Thanks for sharing your experience.
You'll have to sit down to pee. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin



Just take a very deep breath, hold your nose for five minutes while keeping your mouth closed and blow as hard as you can... .. I read in the New England Journal of Medicine that this will cause a mangina to pop out again...

Grin Grin
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Reply #17 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 6:43pm
 
I actually believe in global warming and i also believe that there will be no meaningful action to combat it.

But its not all bad news.

Evolutionary pressure is a GOOD thing.

It will allow those who see obstacles as stepping stones to really shine.
Out of chaos, the true alphas will rise and rise and the mediocre will fall away.

Everything that pushes people outside of their comfort zone is seen as an opportunity for growth by those trying to actualise    and as an opportunity for a cry baby narrative by those living in low consciousness.

I welcome the challenge.
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Reply #18 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 6:44pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 11:28am:
AGW: I'm not saying its hot, but ..But its hot...



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Reply #19 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 7:18pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 11:28am:
AGW: March smashes Australian heat records

This is after December and January smashed global temperature records.




You'll NEVER convince the deniers of the reality that is anthropogenic global warming - no matter WHAT facts are presented



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They  don't want to be shown up as being wrong



They'll tell you "the climate changes everyday"


- being totally ignorant to the meaning of the phrase "annual global average"




Don't you know - it's all part of a secret plan by the industrialised world to shut down industry ?




Fortunately - and as loud as they are - the deniers are really in the extreme minority





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Reply #20 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 8:16pm
 
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 6:19pm:
There were movements galore in Cambra,'
For that turd had passed around,
That Turnbull's bull had bulled its way on through,
And he roamed the wild Lib pastures,
Where the policies grew wild,
And he'd come along for Tony's ass to chew.
With a Bishop in his pocket,
And a Peta scandal too,
He looked the goods a moment, that was true,
But when he thought that policies
Were coppers through and through,
The voters all about began to spew.
So they formed a voting bloc
Very like a butcher's block,
And set about his downfall so it's true.



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Reply #21 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 8:46pm
 
This sort of information really mucks up Libtards narrative about combating CC, no not paying big polluters to pollute, actually combating CC.
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Its time wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 8:46pm:
This sort of information really mucks up Libtards narrative about combating CC, no not paying big polluters to pollute, actually combating CC.


I have to translate this for intellectually challenged conservatives:

'it aint arf ot mum'.
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Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 9:46pm:
Its time wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 8:46pm:
This sort of information really mucks up Libtards narrative about combating CC, no not paying big polluters to pollute, actually combating CC.


I have to translate this for intellectually challenged conservatives:

'it aint arf ot mum'.


So you side with the scientists for anthropogenic warming but think vaccinations cause alien abductions. How bizarre.
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GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
So you side with the scientists for anthropogenic warming but think vaccinations cause alien abductions.


In GordyL's case alien abduction is just wishful thinking on my part.
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Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:19pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
So you side with the scientists for anthropogenic warming but think vaccinations cause alien abductions.


In GordyL's case alien abduction is just wishful thinking on my part.


Seriously,  can you explain you're trust in science on one topic and mistrust in the other ?
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GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:23pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:19pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
So you side with the scientists for anthropogenic warming but think vaccinations cause alien abductions.


In GordyL's case alien abduction is just wishful thinking on my part.


Seriously,  can you explain you're trust in science on one topic and mistrust in the other ?


Can GordyL cite its scientific evidence for alien abductions?
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Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:25pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:23pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:19pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
So you side with the scientists for anthropogenic warming but think vaccinations cause alien abductions.


In GordyL's case alien abduction is just wishful thinking on my part.


Seriously,  can you explain you're trust in science on one topic and mistrust in the other ?


Can GordyL cite its scientific evidence for alien abductions?


It's ok. Anti-vaxxer loons can never answer a direct question. You're in good company .

Now go have a nice glass of unpasteurised milk, it's past your bedtime
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Reply #28 - Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:33pm
 
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:30pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:25pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:23pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:19pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
So you side with the scientists for anthropogenic warming but think vaccinations cause alien abductions.


In GordyL's case alien abduction is just wishful thinking on my part.


Seriously,  can you explain you're trust in science on one topic and mistrust in the other ?


Can GordyL cite its scientific evidence for alien abductions?


It's ok. Anti-vaxxer loons can never answer a direct question. You're in good company .

Now go have a nice glass of unpasteurised milk, it's past your bedtime


Dr. Wakefield who performed studies demonstrating a link between vaccinations and autism recently won a defamation case in court against those who wrongfully denounced his findings. Apologies. Suit was dismissed.

Take a gander at this:

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Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:33pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:30pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:25pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:23pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:19pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
So you side with the scientists for anthropogenic warming but think vaccinations cause alien abductions.


In GordyL's case alien abduction is just wishful thinking on my part.


Seriously,  can you explain you're trust in science on one topic and mistrust in the other ?


Can GordyL cite its scientific evidence for alien abductions?


It's ok. Anti-vaxxer loons can never answer a direct question. You're in good company .

Now go have a nice glass of unpasteurised milk, it's past your bedtime


Dr. Wakefield who performed studies demonstrating a link between vaccinations and autism recently won a defamation case in court against those who wrongfully denounced his findings.


no he didnt.
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Reply #30 - Mar 15th, 2016 at 7:24am
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:33pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:30pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:25pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:23pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:19pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
So you side with the scientists for anthropogenic warming but think vaccinations cause alien abductions.


In GordyL's case alien abduction is just wishful thinking on my part.


Seriously,  can you explain you're trust in science on one topic and mistrust in the other ?


Can GordyL cite its scientific evidence for alien abductions?


It's ok. Anti-vaxxer loons can never answer a direct question. You're in good company .

Now go have a nice glass of unpasteurised milk, it's past your bedtime


Dr. Wakefield who performed studies demonstrating a link between vaccinations and autism recently won a defamation case in court against those who wrongfully denounced his findings. Apologies. Suit was dismissed.

Take a gander at this:

https://avscientificsupportarsenal.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/vaccines-do-cause-au...


Lets nut this out.  Anthropocentric global warming has the overwhelming scientific support of scientists, and with vaccinations we also have the overwhelming support of the scientific community. 

Do you realise Wakefield is to vaccinations as Monkton is to AGW?

How could you possibly side with the science on one issue and against for the other?
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February was a burster and 2016 is going to exceed 2015 by a great margin as the warmest year by far.

It appears AGW is in a positive feedback phase.

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March 2016 was a record setter for temperatures. What's next as we start to approach Australian winter and Northern Hemisphere summer.

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Australia's March heatwave saw temperatures rise 9°C above average in Victoria and 7°C above average in NSW, and broke a nationwide weather record.

The heatwave, which hit most of Australia in late February and early March, was the focus of a newly released special Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) climate statement.

The abnormal heat developed over much of northern Australia and extended to cover almost all of the nation by March 2, with the most extreme part of the heatwave occurring on March 9-10, the statement said.

BoM recorded the hottest area-averaged March day for Australia on March 2 at 38.14°C – 0.98°C above the previous record.

Some temperature records were set in Queensland at the end of February, with Julia Creek recording 46.1°C, Winton recording 45.5°C and Longreach recording 44.4°C.

In the NT, the western border town of Walungurru set a record for the hottest March day, recording 44.4°C on March 3.

The heatwave in southeastern Australia was more notable for its duration rather than individual extremes, BoM said.

From March 1 to 9, Victorian temperatures were 9.23°C above average, and NSW temperatures were 7.35°C above average.

The Victorian town of Echuca experienced eight days in a row above 38 °C, from March 1-9.

The full special climate statement is available on the BoM website.


Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/wild-weather/2016/03/17/11/42/record-breaking-march-heat...
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Reply #33 - Mar 20th, 2016 at 12:35pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
March 2016 was a record setter for temperatures. What's next as we start to approach Australian winter and Northern Hemisphere summer.

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Australia's March heatwave saw temperatures rise 9°C above average in Victoria and 7°C above average in NSW, and broke a nationwide weather record.

The heatwave, which hit most of Australia in late February and early March, was the focus of a newly released special Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) climate statement.

The abnormal heat developed over much of northern Australia and extended to cover almost all of the nation by March 2, with the most extreme part of the heatwave occurring on March 9-10, the statement said.

BoM recorded the hottest area-averaged March day for Australia on March 2 at 38.14°C – 0.98°C above the previous record.

Some temperature records were set in Queensland at the end of February, with Julia Creek recording 46.1°C, Winton recording 45.5°C and Longreach recording 44.4°C.

In the NT, the western border town of Walungurru set a record for the hottest March day, recording 44.4°C on March 3.

The heatwave in southeastern Australia was more notable for its duration rather than individual extremes, BoM said.

From March 1 to 9, Victorian temperatures were 9.23°C above average, and NSW temperatures were 7.35°C above average.

The Victorian town of Echuca experienced eight days in a row above 38 °C, from March 1-9.

The full special climate statement is available on the BoM website.


Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/wild-weather/2016/03/17/11/42/record-breaking-march-heat...


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No need to panic!

Major downturn in the ACT temperature for the next week all less than 25c
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12 degrees last night in Melbourne & again tonight.

It's perfect weather:

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml
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March will burst temperature records for global average temperature.

There are a lot of regions around the world suffering drought.
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Reply #37 - Mar 20th, 2016 at 2:55pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 2:39pm:
March will burst temperature records for global average temperature.



But above you said-

Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
March 2016 was a record setter for temperatures.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 2:39pm:
There are a lot of regions around the world suffering drought.



There are always areas of the world suffering drought. What is new. When was the last time the world was officially drought free?

ACORN-SAT "data" is homogenised. ACORN-SAT "data" cannot be replicated. If it cannot be replicated is it science?
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lee wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 2:55pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 2:39pm:
March will burst temperature records for global average temperature.



But above you said-

Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
March 2016 was a record setter for temperatures.


Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 2:39pm:
There are a lot of regions around the world suffering drought.



There are always areas of the world suffering drought. What is new. When was the last time the world was officially drought free?

ACORN-SAT "data" is homogenised. ACORN-SAT "data" cannot be replicated. If it cannot be replicated is it science?


I am going to grade you F for comprehension. link=1457918905/32#32 referred to Australian regional temperature records whereas link=1457918905/37#37 referred to global average temperature.

Please pay attention and stop fooling around at the back of the class.
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Reply #39 - Mar 20th, 2016 at 3:19pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 3:08pm:
I am going to grade you F for comprehension. link=1457918905/32#32 referred to Australian regional temperature records whereas link=1457918905/37#37 referred to global average temperature.

Please pay attention and stop fooling around at the back of the class.


Wow, so high. The teacher obviously didn't understand the statements-

lee wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 2:55pm:
ACORN-SAT "data" is homogenised. ACORN-SAT "data" cannot be replicated. If it cannot be replicated is it science?



As such the teacher should go back and do one of the new remedial training courses for failed teachers.
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lee wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 2:55pm:
ACORN-SAT "data" is homogenised. ACORN-SAT "data" cannot be replicated. If it cannot be replicated is it science?


Of course its not repeatable. The weather is constantly changing. You cannot repeat results from continuously changing variables other than by fluke.

Please consider:

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Adj.      1.      homogenised - formed by blending unlike elements especially by reducing one element to particles and dispersing them throughout another substance
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blended - combined or mixed together so that the constituent parts are indistinguishable
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Reply #41 - Mar 20th, 2016 at 4:21pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 4:03pm:
Of course its not repeatable. The weather is constantly changing. You cannot repeat results from continuously changing variables other than by fluke.

Please consider:



However the homogenised "dataset" is supposed to be an accurate representation of the weather at a particular location. Now if, for example, we had 3 surrounding stations and we took a mean of those stations for the fourth station, then that would be replicable for that date, because we could look at those locations for that date and compute the reading for the fourth station . However under the current system they cannot do that.

Not that I believe in homogenisation anyway. If a reading for a particular date is missing, simply divide the month by the number of days recorded, if you want an average.
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lee wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 4:21pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 4:03pm:
Of course its not repeatable. The weather is constantly changing. You cannot repeat results from continuously changing variables other than by fluke.

Please consider:



However the homogenised "dataset" is supposed to be an accurate representation of the weather at a particular location. Now if, for example, we had 3 surrounding stations and we took a mean of those stations for the fourth station, then that would be replicable for that date, because we could look at those locations for that date and compute the reading for the fourth station . However under the current system they cannot do that.

Not that I believe in homogenisation anyway. If a reading for a particular date is missing, simply divide the month by the number of days recorded, if you want an average.


I suggest to you that the raw data is not kept because there is so much of it. It is probably processed and then disposed of in order not to clog up computer servers storage capacity. It is probably only the processed results of billions of computations that are homogenised and saved.

Imagine millions of weather sensors (information other than temperature is also measured) and measurements at intervals of minutes and hours.
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Reply #43 - Mar 20th, 2016 at 5:08pm
 
Wait, there's more. Three consecutive years of Global record breaking temperatures:

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2016/feb/22/fossil-fuel-emissio...

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A new study in the journal Geophysical Research Letters by Dr Ailie Gallant, of Monash University, and Dr Sophie Lewis, of Australian National University, has come to a conclusion.

Gallant told me:

When we examined a world without human-emitted greenhouse gases in climate models, we found zero instances when there were two consecutive years with record-breaking springtime temperatures like those we observed in 2013 and 2014.

But when we examined a world with these additional greenhouse gases, we saw that this happened somewhere between 1 in every 10 years and one in every four. This evidence suggests that this repeated record breaking that we saw in spring in 2013 and 2014, and again in 2015, is almost certainly due to greenhouse warming.

Now this isn’t a surprising outcome. Australia has been warming at roughly the same rate as the rest of the globe, and the cause is the greenhouse gases accumulating in the atmosphere, mainly from burning fossil fuels.

Previous studies have found human fingerprints all over Australia’s recent heat records.

To carry out the study, Gallant and Lewis combined computer climate models. They ran the models to see if the results they gave matched what was happening in the real world. The differences were “statistically indistinguishable”.

To see what impact greenhouse gases were having, they then removed the greenhouse gases from the models to make a comparison.

What makes the study intriguing is that it not only tried to answer the question of the impacts of greenhouse gas emissions, but also looked to find out exactly how they were affecting temperatures. Gallant says:

We had just had two hot springs in a row and we were set for a third. They were really remarkable. They broke records by a long way. We wanted to know; is the weather we are experiencing changing, or is it just that we’ve warmed up.

The evidence is that the underlying air masses are warming, rather than the systems themselves changing.

We are getting more record hot springs and it is highly unlikely that this is not due to climate change. But the reason we are getting more record hot springs is not because the weather systems are changing, it is just that everything is warmer.

The study found the natural background conditions (such as atmospheric circulations and the state of the El Niño/La Niña cycle) that existed during those record-breaking springs “have occurred in the past” yet temperatures had been at least 0.21C cooler.
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Reply #44 - Mar 20th, 2016 at 5:08pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 4:54pm:
suggest to you that the raw data is not kept because there is so much of it. It is probably processed and then disposed of in order not to clog up computer servers storage capacity. It is probably only the processed results of billions of computations that are homogenised and saved.



In that case there would be no historical data and could never be checked. An absolute nightmare and I suggest you are absolutely wrong.

It is how they worked out that the temperature homogenisation process wasn't correct, despite years of protestation.

'The Bureau does not alter the original temperature data measured at individual stations. Rather, the Bureau creates additional long, continuous and consistent (homogeneous) records for locations across the country.'

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/change/acorn-sat/index.shtml#tabs=Methods
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aquascoot wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 6:43pm:
I actually believe in global warming and i also believe that there will be no meaningful action to combat it.

But its not all bad news.

Evolutionary pressure is a GOOD thing.

It will allow those who see obstacles as stepping stones to really shine.
Out of chaos, the true alphas will rise and rise and the mediocre will fall away.

Everything that pushes people outside of their comfort zone is seen as an opportunity for growth by those trying to actualise    and as an opportunity for a cry baby narrative by those living in low consciousness.

I welcome the challenge.

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Ajax wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 12:35pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 12:16pm:
March 2016 was a record setter for temperatures. What's next as we start to approach Australian winter and Northern Hemisphere summer.

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Australia's March heatwave saw temperatures rise 9°C above average in Victoria and 7°C above average in NSW, and broke a nationwide weather record.

The heatwave, which hit most of Australia in late February and early March, was the focus of a newly released special Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) climate statement.

The abnormal heat developed over much of northern Australia and extended to cover almost all of the nation by March 2, with the most extreme part of the heatwave occurring on March 9-10, the statement said.

BoM recorded the hottest area-averaged March day for Australia on March 2 at 38.14°C – 0.98°C above the previous record.

Some temperature records were set in Queensland at the end of February, with Julia Creek recording 46.1°C, Winton recording 45.5°C and Longreach recording 44.4°C.

In the NT, the western border town of Walungurru set a record for the hottest March day, recording 44.4°C on March 3.

The heatwave in southeastern Australia was more notable for its duration rather than individual extremes, BoM said.

From March 1 to 9, Victorian temperatures were 9.23°C above average, and NSW temperatures were 7.35°C above average.

The Victorian town of Echuca experienced eight days in a row above 38 °C, from March 1-9.

The full special climate statement is available on the BoM website.


Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/wild-weather/2016/03/17/11/42/record-breaking-march-heat...


We're all doomed run for the hills its the end of the world.

NO wait if we create a $2 trillion dollar carbon derivatives market we will all be saved.

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Reply #47 - Mar 20th, 2016 at 7:01pm
 
GordyL wrote on Mar 15th, 2016 at 7:24am:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:33pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:30pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:25pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:23pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:19pm:
GordyL wrote on Mar 14th, 2016 at 10:09pm:
So you side with the scientists for anthropogenic warming but think vaccinations cause alien abductions.


In GordyL's case alien abduction is just wishful thinking on my part.


Seriously,  can you explain you're trust in science on one topic and mistrust in the other ?


Can GordyL cite its scientific evidence for alien abductions?


It's ok. Anti-vaxxer loons can never answer a direct question. You're in good company .

Now go have a nice glass of unpasteurised milk, it's past your bedtime


Dr. Wakefield who performed studies demonstrating a link between vaccinations and autism recently won a defamation case in court against those who wrongfully denounced his findings. Apologies. Suit was dismissed.

Take a gander at this:

https://avscientificsupportarsenal.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/vaccines-do-cause-au...


Lets nut this out.  Anthropocentric global warming has the overwhelming scientific support of scientists, and with vaccinations we also have the overwhelming support of the scientific community. 

Do you realise Wakefield is to vaccinations as Monkton is to AGW?

How could you possibly side with the science on one issue and against for the other?



observation? comparing predictions with outcomes? ACC hysterics have predicted massive sea level rises, melting ice poles, tens of millions of climate refugees, scorching temeprature increases and sinking islands.  they havent just been wrong. they have been TOTALLY wrong.

now if vaccinations didnt stop these illnesses and there was a massive increase inautism etc then the anti-vaxers might have a case. but there havn't been and so they dont. But somehow, if the climate hysterics makes predictions and get a 100% failure rate, thats okay?
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Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 4:54pm:
lee wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 4:21pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 4:03pm:
Of course its not repeatable. The weather is constantly changing. You cannot repeat results from continuously changing variables other than by fluke.

Please consider:



However the homogenised "dataset" is supposed to be an accurate representation of the weather at a particular location. Now if, for example, we had 3 surrounding stations and we took a mean of those stations for the fourth station, then that would be replicable for that date, because we could look at those locations for that date and compute the reading for the fourth station . However under the current system they cannot do that.

Not that I believe in homogenisation anyway. If a reading for a particular date is missing, simply divide the month by the number of days recorded, if you want an average.


I suggest to you that the raw data is not kept because there is so much of it. It is probably processed and then disposed of in order not to clog up computer servers storage capacity. It is probably only the processed results of billions of computations that are homogenised and saved.

Imagine millions of weather sensors (information other than temperature is also measured) and measurements at intervals of minutes and hours.



what rubbish. do you think BoM could not afford a handful of 4TB hard drives because that is all it would take.

idiot.
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Reply #49 - Mar 20th, 2016 at 7:36pm
 
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 5:08pm:
When we examined a world without human-emitted greenhouse gases in climate models, we found zero instances when there were two consecutive years with record-breaking springtime temperatures like those we observed in 2013 and 2014.

But when we examined a world with these additional greenhouse gases, we saw that this happened somewhere between 1 in every 10 years and one in every four. This evidence suggests that this repeated record breaking that we saw in spring in 2013 and 2014, and again in 2015, is almost certainly due to greenhouse warming.



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lee wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 7:36pm:
Svengali wrote on Mar 20th, 2016 at 5:08pm:
When we examined a world without human-emitted greenhouse gases in climate models, we found zero instances when there were two consecutive years with record-breaking springtime temperatures like those we observed in 2013 and 2014.

But when we examined a world with these additional greenhouse gases, we saw that this happened somewhere between 1 in every 10 years and one in every four. This evidence suggests that this repeated record breaking that we saw in spring in 2013 and 2014, and again in 2015, is almost certainly due to greenhouse warming.



And where did they find this world? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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Reply #51 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 4:35pm
 
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 3:19pm:
Not all models are correct but still mankind got to the moon and invented nuclear weapons.



Yes and not one climate model has been shown to be correct. So should we trust climate models or the models for the moon landing and nuclear weapons?

Just think what would have happened if the nuclear weapons models were as abysmal.
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lee wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 4:35pm:
BatteriesNotIncluded wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 3:19pm:
Not all models are correct but still mankind got to the moon and invented nuclear weapons.



Yes and not one climate model is correct. So should we trust climate models or the models for the moon landing and nuclear weapons?

Just think what would have happened if the nuclear weapons models were as abysmal.

What the bugger would you know about how correct they were or not!
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Reply #53 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 4:56pm
 
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What the bugger would you know about how correct they were or not!
Posted by: lee  Mark & Quote Quote



If the climate models were correct, even the mean of the climate models, they wouldn't have had to rely on 'expert judgment' for the output in AR5. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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I run training in computer modelling and prediction. if any of our models were as woefully inaccurate as the climate ones we would end up being sued.

they are almost 100% wrong.
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Reply #55 - Mar 21st, 2016 at 10:26pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 5:10pm:
I run training in computer modelling and prediction. if any of our models were as woefully inaccurate as the climate ones we would end up being sued.

they are almost 100% wrong.


Longweekend's models must be shonky if he is still teaching school at his age.
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Reply #56 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 2:49pm
 
March 2016 was hottest March on record.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-01/march-temperatures-sets-record-as-hottest-...

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By environment reporter Sara Phillips
Updated Fri at 3:00pm

You could be forgiven for not noticing the end of summer — March was a hot one.

Information released by the Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) indicated it was the hottest March on record, reaching 1.7 degrees Celsius above the long-term average.

This eclipsed the 1986 record of 1.67 degrees above the average, BoM said in its monthly climate report.

The unusual heat was particularly noticed in the Top End, where the failure of the monsoon allowed temperatures to creep up.

This, coupled with a high pressure system off the east coast of Australia, caused a heatwave strong enough to prompt BoM to issue a special climate statement about the phenomenon.

March 2 became Australia's hottest day on record.

Averaged across the country, it reached a top of 38 degrees Celsius.


There was no relief overnight either with minimum overnight temperatures the warmest ever, smashing the 1983 record by 0.83 degrees.

The hot March came on the back of the hottest February globally, and the hottest year for 2015.


A strong El Nino weather pattern prevailed at the start of the year, which has traditionally been associated with hotter weather.

Although the El Nino is weakening, the heat effects are expected to persist for a few more months.

Climate change is thought to be adding to the unusual heat.

The scorching start to 2016 prompted Australia's chief scientist Alan Finkel to warn that the world was "losing the battle" against climate change.
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Reply #57 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 7:14pm
 
longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2016 at 5:10pm:
I run training in computer modelling and prediction. if any of our models were as woefully inaccurate as the climate ones we would end up being sued.

they are almost 100% wrong.


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World Meteorological Organization warns Overwhelming Record Heat Due to Climate Change.

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Humanity and its activities are the main source of Global Warming. The world is getting warmer and warmer, with 13 out of the 15 warmest years on record occurring in the current century. A record-breaking string of hot years since 2000 is almost certainly a sign of man-made global warming, with vanishingly small chances that it was caused by random, natural swings, a study showed on Monday.

Overwhelming Record Heat Due to Climate Change
“We find that individual record years and the observed runs of record-setting temperatures were extremely unlikely to have occurred in the absence of human-caused climate change, though not nearly as unlikely as press reports have suggested,” said Michael Mann and his co-authors in a study for the journal Scientific Reports.

Last month, almost 190 nations agreed at a summit in Paris to the strongest deal yet to shift from fossil fuels towards cleaner energies such as wind and solar power to limit warming.

Separately on Monday, the U.N.’s World Meteorological Organization (WMO) confirmed U.S. and British data showing 2015 was by far the hottest year on record and noted that a powerful El Nino event, warming the surface of the Pacific Ocean, had stoked extra heat.

“The power of El Nino will fade in the coming months but the impacts of human-induced climate change will be with us for many decades,” WMO Secretary-General Petteri Taalas said.

The El Niño weather pattern shares some of the credit for the margin of the record. Scientists said earlier in 2015 that the record was likely to be broken because of its arrival and peak toward the end of the year. By beating the record set the previous year, the concern is that global warming overall is on the rise and it cannot be attributed solely to a cyclical global weather event.

Some media reports stated that the odds of the recent run of record temperatures to be 1 in 650 million. The research shows that the real odds of it being a natural occurrence to be much better, but it is still small enough for the researchers to arrive at the same conclusion – it is almost certainly our fault.

“2015 is again the warmest year on record, and this can hardly be by chance,” said co-author Stefan Rahmstorf in the report accompanying the study. “Natural climate variations just can’t explain the observed recent global heat records, but man-made global warming can.”

And while there is a new global temperature record, it may be wise to save a few fireworks for next year. Another new report shows that 2016 may be even warmer than 2015, thanks also to El Niño. It will also likely mark the official end to the overall slow down of global warming experienced over the past decade.

WMO provides the most authoritative international reference source for global metereological records as the UN agency combines three internationally-renowned observational datasets with those from sophisticated reanalysis systems.

The WMO global temperature figure is derived from datasets maintained by the Hadley Centre of the UK’s Met Office and the Climatic Research Unit, University of East Anglia, United Kingdom; the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration National Centers for Environmental Information; and the Goddard Institute of Space Studies operated by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.

The WMO also draws on information from reanalysis systems, which use a weather forecasting system to combine many sources of data to provide a more complete picture of global temperatures, including in Polar regions.

WMO uses data from the reanalyses produced by the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts.

All these data sets show that 2015 was the warmest year and also that 15 of the 16 hottest years on record have all been this century, with 2015 being “significantly warmer” than the record-level temperatures seen in 2014, the WMO said in a statement Monday announcing the new heat record.

Underlining the long-term trend, 2011-15 is the warmest five-year period on record.

The record temperatures over both land and ocean surfaces in 2015 were accompanied by many extreme weather events such as heatwaves, flooding and severe drought.

“Climate change will have increasingly negative impacts for at least the next five decades. This emphasizes the need to invest in adaptation besides mitigation,” warned Taalas.

“It is important to strengthen the capability of countries to provide better disaster early warnings to minimize human and economic losses,” he said. “Climate change increases the risk of weather related disasters which are an obstacle to sustainable development.”
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Reply #59 - Apr 3rd, 2016 at 11:29pm
 
'National March mean minimum temperatures warmest on record, with an anomaly of +1.97  °C
National March mean maximum temperature anomaly +1.42 °C, the seventh-warmest on record'

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/month/aus/summary.shtml?cid=006fb02

So the nights were the warmest on record and the days were only seventh warmest.

I feel so disappointed.
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Reply #60 - Apr 4th, 2016 at 10:02pm
 
Not saying it's hot but this summer the trees chased the dogs to get pissed on
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Sydney is sweltering again. The market for Peter Heaters has gone flaccid.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/warm-sydney-weather-set-to-continue-into-m...

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SOME parts of Sydney are expecting temperatures close to 30 degrees well into next week with cooler Autumn temperatures nowhere in sight

Penrith can look forward to a top of 29 tomorrow, followed by 28 on Saturday and 27 on Sunday. While there will be a little dip on Monday when the mercury drops to 25, it’s back up to 28 and 29 on Tuesday and Wednesday.

It will be a little milder closer to the city, but still well above average and only dropping below 25 on Monday.


At least the leaves are turning brown. A man walks his dog through colourful Byng St. Picture: Braden Fastier

But then you would expect the trees in Orange to make an effort. Picture: Braden Fastier
Autumn temperatures have pretty much failed to materialise so far this year with averages for March and April significantly higher than their long-term averages.

The average temperature for March was 26.8, two degrees above the long-term average of 24.8 and so far in April the average has been 24.8, 2.4 degrees higher than the long-term average.

Just three days in April saw the maximum temperature fall below the long-term average of 22.4 degrees.

And things aren’t looking to cool down much as we move into May with the first few days expected to be in the mid to late 20s in the city and up to 30 in the west.

That is significantly higher than the long-term average of 19.5 for the month.

“We’ve had a persistent high over the Tasman for quite a few days now and it’s not going to move away any time soon and continues to drag warmer air from the north,” Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster Neale Fraser told The Daily Telegraph.

“We’ve got a rain band coming through ahead of a front but the front itself is not very strong so there won’t be much of an air mass change.”

But don’t get too used to life in the new tropics, with a good chance that temperatures will plummet and the clouds will roll in filled with heavy rain towards the end of winter.

The higher temperatures are a result of El Niño which brings hot, dry conditions to the country, but that system is currently breaking down and could make way for the opposite - La Nina.

Based on international models, there is a 50 per cent chance of La Niña forming and with that often comes the depressing combination of lower than average temperatures and higher than usual rainfall.

“La Niña is often, but not always, associated with above-average winter-spring rainfall over northern, central and eastern Australia,” the Bureau of Meteorology warned.

Moana Elliot, 4, and mum Karuna swimming at Bronte Beach yesterday / Picture: Tim Hunter
Significant rainfall in the second half of the year is also being influenced by record warm temperatures in the Indian Ocean.

“The warmth in the Indian Ocean will likely provide extra moisture for rain systems as they cross Australia during the southern autumn,” the Bureau’s statement read.

So keep the thongs and swimmers at the ready for the next week or so, but make sure your woollies (and umbrella) aren’t too far from reach.
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Reply #62 - Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:42am
 
Svengali wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:41am:
Sydney is sweltering again.



Wow, temperatures in the low 20's is sweltering? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
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Reply #63 - Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:44am
 
lee wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:42am:
Svengali wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:41am:
Sydney is sweltering again.



Wow, temperatures in the low 20's is sweltering? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Denizen lee is evidently a happy Peter Heater user,

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Reply #64 - Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:55am
 
Svengali wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:44am:
Denizen lee is evidently a happy Peter Heater user,



Could use one. We are struggling to get to 20.

Svengali wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:41am:
so far in April the average has been 24.8, 2.4 degrees higher than the long-term average.


That's the part of the comment I was responding to. Wink

May be I should have said mid-20's to appease you.
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Reply #65 - Apr 28th, 2016 at 12:52pm
 
Svengali wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:41am:
Sydney is sweltering again. The market for Peter Heaters has gone flaccid.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/warm-sydney-weather-set-to-continue-into-m...

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SOME parts of Sydney are expecting temperatures close to 30 degrees well into next week with cooler Autumn temperatures nowhere in sight

Penrith can look forward to a top of 29 tomorrow, followed by 28 on Saturday and 27 on Sunday. While there will be a little dip on Monday when the mercury drops to 25, it’s back up to 28 and 29 on Tuesday and Wednesday.

It will be a little milder closer to the city, but still well above average and only dropping below 25 on Monday.


At least the leaves are turning brown. A man walks his dog through colourful Byng St. Picture: Braden Fastier

But then you would expect the trees in Orange to make an effort. Picture: Braden Fastier
Autumn temperatures have pretty much failed to materialise so far this year with averages for March and April significantly higher than their long-term averages.

The average temperature for March was 26.8, two degrees above the long-term average of 24.8 and so far in April the average has been 24.8, 2.4 degrees higher than the long-term average.

Just three days in April saw the maximum temperature fall below the long-term average of 22.4 degrees.

And things aren’t looking to cool down much as we move into May with the first few days expected to be in the mid to late 20s in the city and up to 30 in the west.

That is significantly higher than the long-term average of 19.5 for the month.

“We’ve had a persistent high over the Tasman for quite a few days now and it’s not going to move away any time soon and continues to drag warmer air from the north,” Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster Neale Fraser told The Daily Telegraph.

“We’ve got a rain band coming through ahead of a front but the front itself is not very strong so there won’t be much of an air mass change.”

But don’t get too used to life in the new tropics, with a good chance that temperatures will plummet and the clouds will roll in filled with heavy rain towards the end of winter.

The higher temperatures are a result of El Niño which brings hot, dry conditions to the country, but that system is currently breaking down and could make way for the opposite - La Nina.

Based on international models, there is a 50 per cent chance of La Niña forming and with that often comes the depressing combination of lower than average temperatures and higher than usual rainfall.

“La Niña is often, but not always, associated with above-average winter-spring rainfall over northern, central and eastern Australia,” the Bureau of Meteorology warned.

Moana Elliot, 4, and mum Karuna swimming at Bronte Beach yesterday / Picture: Tim Hunter
Significant rainfall in the second half of the year is also being influenced by record warm temperatures in the Indian Ocean.

“The warmth in the Indian Ocean will likely provide extra moisture for rain systems as they cross Australia during the southern autumn,” the Bureau’s statement read.

So keep the thongs and swimmers at the ready for the next week or so, but make sure your woollies (and umbrella) aren’t too far from reach.


Haha, nice near the sea. Obviously you live out west in the proletarian districts.
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Reply #66 - Apr 28th, 2016 at 5:02pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:42am:
Svengali wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:41am:
Sydney is sweltering again.



Wow, temperatures in the low 20's is sweltering? Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

Temperature is not the only indicator of a complex system!
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Reply #67 - Apr 28th, 2016 at 6:55pm
 
lee wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:55am:
Svengali wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:44am:
Denizen lee is evidently a happy Peter Heater user,



Could use one. We are struggling to get to 20.

Svengali wrote on Apr 28th, 2016 at 11:41am:
so far in April the average has been 24.8, 2.4 degrees higher than the long-term average.


That's the part of the comment I was responding to. Wink

May be I should have said mid-20's to appease you.


Your posture of obeisance on your knees was enough denizen lee. You may now rise.
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Reply #68 - May 3rd, 2016 at 7:43pm
 
By year 2100 North Africa and Middle East will become too hot for humans forcing a wave of immigration.

Australia will need to make room for many millions of immigrants.

Could there be wars forced by climate change?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3570024/Global-warming-turn-Middl...

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Researchers say heat waves could occur ten times more often
Midday temperatures on hot days could climb to 50 degrees Celsius

A new study has warned that rising global temperatures could render large swathes of the Middle East and North Africa too hot for humans.
Experts say the future of humanity is these areas is 'in jepoardy' and say it could affect up to 500 million people.
Researchers found the number of extremely hot days in the region has doubled since 1970.
By mid-century, during the warmest periods, temperatures will not fall below 30 degrees at night, and during daytime they could rise to 46 degrees Celsius (approximately 114 degrees Fahrenheit).
By mid-century, during the warmest periods, temperatures will not fall below 30 degrees at night, and during daytime they could rise to 46 degrees Celsius (approximately 114 degrees Fahrenheit).

WHAT THE STUDY FOUND
By the end of the century, midday temperatures on hot days could even climb to 50 degrees Celsius (approximately 122 degrees Fahrenheit).

Another finding: Heat waves could occur ten times more often than they do now.
By mid-century, 80 instead of 16 extremely hot days.

'In future, the climate in large parts of the Middle East and North Africa could change in such a manner that the very existence of its inhabitants is in jeopardy,' says Jos Lelieveld, Director at the Max Planck Institute for Chemistry and

Professor at the Cyprus Institute.
Lelieveld and his team concluded that ven if Earth's temperature were to increase on average only by two degrees Celsius compared to pre-industrial times, the temperature in summer in these regions will increase more than twofold.
By mid-century, during the warmest periods, temperatures will not fall below 30 degrees at night, and during daytime they could rise to 46 degrees Celsius (approximately 114 degrees Fahrenheit).

By the end of the century, midday temperatures on hot days could even climb to 50 degrees Celsius (approximately 122 degrees Fahrenheit).

Another finding: Heat waves could occur ten times more often than they do now.
By mid-century, 80 instead of 16 extremely hot days
In addition, the duration of heat waves in North Africa and the Middle East will prolong dramatically.

Between 1986 and 2005, it was very hot for an average period of about 16 days, by mid-century it will be unusually hot for 80 days per year.

At the end of the century, up to 118 days could be unusually hot, even if greenhouse gas emissions decline again after 2040.

'If mankind continues to release carbon dioxide as it does now, people living in the Middle East and North Africa will have to expect about 200 unusually hot days, according to the model projections,' says Panos Hadjinicolaou, Associate Professor at the Cyprus Institute and climate change expert.

Atmospheric researcher Jos Lelieveld is convinced that climate change will have a major impact on the environment and the health of people in these regions. 'Climate change will significantly worsen the living conditions in the Middle East and in North Africa.

Prolonged heat waves and desert dust storms can render some regions uninhabitable, which will surely contribute to the pressure to migrate,' said Jos Lelieveld.

The research team recently also published findings on the increase of fine particulate air pollution in the Middle East.
It was found that desert dust in the atmosphere over Saudi Arabia, Iraq and in Syria has increased by up to 70 percent since the beginning of this century.

This is mainly attributable to an increase of sand storms as a result of prolonged droughts.
Desert dust storms such as here in Kuwait could occur more often in the Middle East and North Africa as a result of climate change, the researchers find.

Desert dust storms such as here in Kuwait could occur more often in the Middle East and North Africa as a result of climate change, the researchers find.

ARE DESERTS TO BLAME?
Researchers warned of a desert warming amplification in regions such as the Sahara.
Deserts do not buffer heat well, which means that the hot and dry surface cannot cool by the evaporation of ground water.

Since the surface energy balance is controlled by heat radiation, the greenhouse effect by gases such as carbon dioxide and water vapor will increase disproportionately.

It is expected that climate change will contribute to further increases, which will worsen environmental conditions in the area.

In the now published study, Lelieveld and his colleagues first compared climate data from 1986 to 2005 with predictions from 26 climate models over the same time period.
It was shown that the measurement data and model predictions corresponded extremely well, which is why the scientists used these models to project climate conditions for the period from 2046 to 2065 and the period from 2081 to 2100...
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Reply #69 - May 3rd, 2016 at 8:31pm
 
Strange that the CO2 theory is for little daytime change and warmer nights. I guess the theory is flawed.
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lee wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 8:31pm:
Strange that the CO2 theory is for little daytime change and warmer nights. I guess the theory is flawed.


Denizen lee hasn't managed to cobble together a rational coherent theory.
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Reply #71 - May 4th, 2016 at 11:34am
 
Svengali wrote on May 3rd, 2016 at 11:41pm:
Denizen lee hasn't managed to cobble together a rational coherent theory.



Neither have the Thermageddionists. Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

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More evidence is accumulating of global warming.

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Earlier this year, Sydney had a record 43 days in a row with maximums above average, in the period up to March 18.
That record stands but 2016 now also counts the equal-second longest such run, with 33 above-average days up until Thursday.
The latest sequence - broken by Friday's top of a sub-par 18.6 degree - matched the 33 days of warmer-than-average weather to June 5, 2014, Acacia Pepler, a climatologist at the bureau, says.

With Thursday nudging past 20 degrees, the city had 141 such days in a row after a rare cool patch in early January. The record of 180 such days stretched from November 6, 1913 to May 4, 1914.

Even with a cool final week in the month, Sydney may yet set a record for average daytime temperatures, with 23.2 degrees set in 2014 the mark to beat. As of May 26, the month-to-date average was 23.8 degrees - but with a few chilly days to go, the tally may fall just short.

Hot autumn
Sydney may also come close to its warmest autumn on record. The mark to beat was set in 2014 when mean temperatures - the average of day and night - came in at 20.2 degrees, just ahead of 1958, according to the bureau. Maximums for the 2014 autumn were also a record 24.5 degrees, while so far this season, tops are running well ahead with an average just over 25 degrees.

Balmy nights
This May has been sunny, averaging about 7.7 hours a day, but the lack of clouds has lately led to some cool overnight temperatures will little to trap the heat in. Even so, Sydney had 232 nights in a row where the mercury stayed above 12 degrees up until May 19, easily eclipsing the previous record of 217 days set in 2004-05 and 1973-74. So far this month, average minimums are running at just under 14 degrees compared with the long-run average for Sydney in May of 11.6 degrees, the bureau said. The recent cool spell should narrow the gap to about 2 degrees by the end of May.

What happened to the rain?
The relative absence of clouds is also evident in the rain gauge. The prospect of the odd shower over the weekend means the rain tally may yet get a late top-up. Heading into the weekend, just 4.8 millimetres had been registered at the bureau's Observatory Hill site.
Depending on the timing of Monday's predicted 2-10 millimetres of rain - the monthly cut-off point for rain is 9am on the last day of the month - Sydney could notch one of its five driest Mays in records going back to the 1850s.
The other especially dry years were 2008, when just three millimetres landed at the main city site in a month when the average rainfall is just under 120 millimetres. Other dry years include 1957, with 3.7 millimetres, 1860 with 4.5 millimetres and 1885 with 5.2 millimetres.

Nationally, rainfall has also been below-average during the past 12 months, says Karl Braganza, head of climate monitoring at the bureau. The big El Nino event in the Pacific - in which the usual westward-blowing winds stall or reverse - was one big influence on the reduced rainfall tallies.
The good news for farmers is that the breakdown of the event points to an improving outlook "The recorded rainfall pattern for May is certainly looking less El Nino-like, and the bureau's seasonal outlook suggests a higher probability of above-average rainfall over the next few months," Dr Braganza says.

El Nino and global heat
The El Nino gave a spike to global temperatures as the altered wind patterns meant a massive area of the Pacific took in less of the extra building up in the atmosphere, thanks mainly to rising levels of greenhouse gases.
Monash University's Neville Nicholls - this week inducted as a fellow of the Australian Academy of Science for his research on climate variability - has highlighted how the recent El Nino compared with the two other huge events in 1982-83 and 1997-98. (See chart below of above-average temperatures in degrees as measured in a key region of the equatorial Pacific.)

"You can see that they are all about the same intensity - and they all show a similar life cycle," Professor Nicholls said.
As a second chart (see below) of NASA's global surface temperatures shows, however, the baseline for when the event starts is rising, pointing to the background warming from climate change.
"So the 1997/98 event is about 0.3 degrees warmer than the 1982-83 event, and the 2015-16 event is about 0.5 degrees warmer than the 1997-98 event," Professor Nicholls said.
"While strong El Nino events don't appear to be getting more intense or more frequent, they are starting out at a higher background global mean temperature," he said. "So the reason we have seen record global temperatures over the past 12 months is not because the El Nino was especially strong, but because global warming had 'lifted' the baseline temperature."

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Wow. El Ninos' cause big jumps in global temperatures. Who Knew. Kevin Trenberth did.

Of course El Ninos' are natural. So natural variations cause temperature increase.

I notice Professor Nichols doesn't detail why BoM have a history of El Ninos' going back to 1902. So it is not a modern phenomenon.

But we have to find a cause and cure it, because humans know everything.  Grin Grin Grin
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lee wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:16pm:
Wow. El Ninos' cause big jumps in global temperatures. Who Knew. Kevin Trenberth did.

Of course El Ninos' are natural. So natural variations cause temperature increase.

I notice Professor Nichols doesn't detail why BoM have a history of El Ninos' going back to 1902. So it is not a modern phenomenon.

But we have to find a cause and cure it, because humans know everything.  Grin Grin Grin



Melbourne is down to 6 degrees tonight.
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Bobby. wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:17pm:
Melbourne is down to 6 degrees tonight.



What was it John Taverner was saying about picking one points weather and ascribing it to climate change?

John_Taverner wrote on May 28th, 2016 at 9:17pm:
Yes, but I'm not the one quoting local weather to make the argument that "the ice age cometh".
(In Environment thread)


Or Global warming, for that matter.
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 9:49pm:
More evidence is accumulating of global warming.

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Hi Lee,

just forgive him - you'll feel better.
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More facts:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/12/1206_041206_global_warming_2.htm...

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Global Warming Fast Facts

Here's the lowdown on why it's happening, what's causing it, and how it might change the planet.

Is It Happening?

Yes. Earth is already showing many signs of worldwide climate change.

• Average temperatures have climbed 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit (0.8 degree Celsius) around the world since 1880, much of this in recent decades, according to NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies.

• The rate of warming is increasing. The 20th century's last two decades were the hottest in 400 years and possibly the warmest for several millennia, according to a number of climate studies. And the United Nations' Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) reports that 11 of the past 12 years are among the dozen warmest since 1850.

• The Arctic is feeling the effects the most. Average temperatures in Alaska, western Canada, and eastern Russia have risen at twice the global average, according to the multinational Arctic Climate Impact Assessment report compiled between 2000 and 2004.

• Arctic ice is rapidly disappearing, and the region may have its first completely ice-free summer by 2040 or earlier. Polar bears and indigenous cultures are already suffering from the sea-ice loss.

• Glaciers and mountain snows are rapidly melting—for example, Montana's Glacier National Park now has only 27 glaciers, versus 150 in 1910. In the Northern Hemisphere, thaws also come a week earlier in spring and freezes begin a week later.

• Coral reefs, which are highly sensitive to small changes in water temperature, suffered the worst bleaching—or die-off in response to stress—ever recorded in 1998, with some areas seeing bleach rates of 70 percent. Experts expect these sorts of events to increase in frequency and intensity in the next 50 years as sea temperatures rise.

• An upsurge in the amount of extreme weather events, such as wildfires, heat waves, and strong tropical storms, is also attributed in part to climate change by some experts.

Are Humans Causing It?

• "Very likely," the IPCC said in a February 2007 report.

The report, based on the work of some 2,500 scientists in more than 130 countries, concluded that humans have caused all or most of the current planetary warming. Human-caused global warming is often called anthropogenic climate change.

• Industrialization, deforestation, and pollution have greatly increased atmospheric concentrations of water vapor, carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide, all greenhouse gases that help trap heat near Earth's surface. (See an interactive feature on how global warming works.)

• Humans are pouring carbon dioxide into the atmosphere much faster than plants and oceans can absorb it.

• These gases persist in the atmosphere for years, meaning that even if such emissions were eliminated today, it would not immediately stop global warming.

• Some experts point out that natural cycles in Earth's orbit can alter the planet's exposure to sunlight, which may explain the current trend. Earth has indeed experienced warming and cooling cycles roughly every hundred thousand years due to these orbital shifts, but such changes have occurred over the span of several centuries. Today's changes have taken place over the past hundred years or less.

• Other recent research has suggested that the effects of variations in the sun's output are "negligible" as a factor in warming, but other, more complicated solar mechanisms could possibly play a role.

What's Going to Happen?

A follow-up report by the IPCC released in April 2007 warned that global warming could lead to large-scale food and water shortages and have catastrophic effects on wildlife.

• Sea level could rise between 7 and 23 inches (18 to 59 centimeters) by century's end, the IPCC's February 2007 report projects. Rises of just 4 inches (10 centimeters) could flood many South Seas islands and swamp large parts of Southeast Asia.

• Some hundred million people live within 3 feet (1 meter) of mean sea level, and much of the world's population is concentrated in vulnerable coastal cities. In the U.S., Louisiana and Florida are especially at risk.

• Glaciers around the world could melt, causing sea levels to rise while creating water shortages in regions dependent on runoff for fresh water.

• Strong hurricanes, droughts, heat waves, wildfires, and other natural disasters may become commonplace in many parts of the world. The growth of deserts may also cause food shortages in many places.

• More than a million species face extinction from disappearing habitat, changing ecosystems, and acidifying oceans.

• The ocean's circulation system, known as the ocean conveyor belt, could be permanently altered, causing a mini-ice age in Western Europe and other rapid changes.

• At some point in the future, warming could become uncontrollable by creating a so-called positive feedback effect. Rising temperatures could release additional greenhouse gases by unlocking methane in permafrost and undersea deposits, freeing carbon trapped in sea ice, and causing increased evaporation of water.

What is Climategate?

In late November 2009, hackers unearthed hundreds of emails at the U.K.'s University of East Anglia that exposed private conversations among top-level British and U.S. climate scientists discussing whether certain data should be released to the public ...
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Laugh till you cry wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:59pm:
• Arctic ice is rapidly disappearing, and the region may have its first completely ice-free summer by 2040 or earlier. Polar bears and indigenous cultures are already suffering from the sea-ice loss.
'• Strong hurricanes, droughts, heat waves, wildfires, and other natural disasters may become commonplace in many parts of the world. The growth of deserts may also cause food shortages in many places'



Makes you wonder how Adolf Erik, crossed the Arctic in a steam vessel 140 years ago.

'Adolf Erik, Baron Nordenskiöld, in full Nils Adolf Erik, Baron Nordenskiöld (born November 18, 1832, Helsinki, Finland—died August 12, 1901, Dalbyö, Sweden) Swedish geologist, mineralogist, geographer, and explorer who sailed from Norway to the Pacific across the Asiatic Arctic, completing the first successful navigation of the Northeast Passage.'

http://www.britannica.com/biography/Adolf-Erik-Baron-Nordenskiold

The warmunists keep trying to invent history. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Been no sign of that yet. In fact the CSIRO among others has confirmed that deserts are greening because of CO2.

"What is Climategate?

In late November 2009, hackers unearthed hundreds of emails at the U.K.'s University of East Anglia that exposed private conversations among top-level British and U.S. climate scientists discussing whether certain data should be released to the public ... "

Yes, because they were hiding data that didn't agree with the AGW meme. That was deemed to be a reprehensible thing. But when Peter Gleick pretended to be a member of Heartland Institute and stole documents, he was lauded.

Warmunists are not consistent.
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Reply #79 - May 30th, 2016 at 6:57pm
 
lee wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 6:45pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 29th, 2016 at 10:59pm:
• Arctic ice is rapidly disappearing, and the region may have its first
completely
ice-free summer by 2040 or earlier. Polar bears and indigenous cultures are already suffering from the sea-ice loss.
'• Strong hurricanes, droughts, heat waves, wildfires, and other natural disasters may become commonplace in many parts of the world. The growth of deserts may also cause food shortages in many places'



Makes you wonder how Adolf Erik, crossed the Arctic in a steam vessel 140 years ago.

'Adolf Erik, Baron Nordenskiöld, in full Nils Adolf Erik, Baron Nordenskiöld (born November 18, 1832, Helsinki, Finland—died August 12, 1901, Dalbyö, Sweden) Swedish geologist, mineralogist, geographer, and explorer who sailed from Norway to the Pacific across the Asiatic Arctic, completing the first successful navigation of the Northeast Passage.'

http://www.britannica.com/biography/Adolf-Erik-Baron-Nordenskiold

The warmunists keep trying to invent history. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Been no sign of that yet. In fact the CSIRO among others has confirmed that deserts are greening because of CO2.


As a service to Ozpolitic denizens I am providing a comprehension lesson to denizen lee and other conservative ozpolitic denizens of lee's ilk.

Mr. Lee, please note the word "completely" in the text above (Arctic ice is rapidly disappearing, and the region may have its first
completely
ice-free summer by 2040) and consider its meaning in the context of the sentence.
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Laugh till you cry wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 6:57pm:
Mr. Lee, please note the word "completely" in the text above (Arctic ice is rapidly disappearing, and the region may have its first completely ice-free summer by 2040) and consider its meaning in the context of the sentence.



Do you have any evidence that the Arctic was not completely ice-free back then? Pictures of the circa 1870 ice-breakers?  Weather reports?

Or should we just take your word for it?
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lee wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 6:57pm:
Mr. Lee, please note the word "completely" in the text above (Arctic ice is rapidly disappearing, and the region may have its first completely ice-free summer by 2040) and consider its meaning in the context of the sentence.



Do you have any evidence that the Arctic was not completely ice-free back then? Pictures of the circa 1870 ice-breakers?  Weather reports?

Or should we just take your word for it?




And he conveniently forgets about Antarctica.
The ice there is increasing.

This will be a really cold winter now - one to remember - in southern Australia.

The mini ice age has already started.
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Bobby. wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
lee wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 6:57pm:
Mr. Lee, please note the word "completely" in the text above (Arctic ice is rapidly disappearing, and the region may have its first completely ice-free summer by 2040) and consider its meaning in the context of the sentence.



Do you have any evidence that the Arctic was not completely ice-free back then? Pictures of the circa 1870 ice-breakers?  Weather reports?

Or should we just take your word for it?




And he conveniently forgets about Antarctica.
The ice there is increasing.

This will be a really cold winter now - one to remember - in southern Australia.

The mini ice age has already started.


If you really believed that Bobby, you would corner the Peter Heater market and become a billionaire.
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Laugh till you cry wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 9:10pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
lee wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 6:57pm:
Mr. Lee, please note the word "completely" in the text above (Arctic ice is rapidly disappearing, and the region may have its first completely ice-free summer by 2040) and consider its meaning in the context of the sentence.



Do you have any evidence that the Arctic was not completely ice-free back then? Pictures of the circa 1870 ice-breakers?  Weather reports?

Or should we just take your word for it?




And he conveniently forgets about Antarctica.
The ice there is increasing.

This will be a really cold winter now - one to remember - in southern Australia.

The mini ice age has already started.


If you really believed that Bobby, you would corner the Peter Heater market and become a billionaire.



I've got the gas ducted heating on tonight -
it's cold in Melbourne.
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Remember this?

"Arctic summers ice-free 'by 2013' "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7139797.stm

Just another failed prediction.
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Reply #85 - May 30th, 2016 at 9:40pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 9:21pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 9:10pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 8:04pm:
lee wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 7:09pm:
Laugh till you cry wrote on May 30th, 2016 at 6:57pm:
Mr. Lee, please note the word "completely" in the text above (Arctic ice is rapidly disappearing, and the region may have its first completely ice-free summer by 2040) and consider its meaning in the context of the sentence.



Do you have any evidence that the Arctic was not completely ice-free back then? Pictures of the circa 1870 ice-breakers?  Weather reports?

Or should we just take your word for it?




And he conveniently forgets about Antarctica.
The ice there is increasing.

This will be a really cold winter now - one to remember - in southern Australia.

The mini ice age has already started.


If you really believed that Bobby, you would corner the Peter Heater market and become a billionaire.



I've got the gas ducted heating on tonight -
it's cold in Melbourne.


Balmy 12 in Sydney.  One small gas heater and a lekky blanky for the daughter does the job
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San Francisco USA heat record in USA Fall (Autumn) 97oF:

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/09/25/bay-area-heat-wave-smashes-old-tempe...

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SAN FRANCISCO (CBS SF) — Clear skies and westerly winds brought record-breaking heat to two Bay Area locations Sunday, according to official data from the National Weather Service.

The mercury rose to 94 degrees at San Francisco International Airport, breaking the old record for the day of 91 degrees set in 1970.

At Moffett Field near Mountain View the high temperature was 96 degrees, breaking the old record of 91 degrees set in 1978.

San Jose and Oakland tied records for the day of 97 degrees and 94 degrees.

National Weather Service meteorologist Drew Peterson said Monday could be a little warmer in the East Bay and on Tuesday temperatures will drop slightly.

The temperature Tuesday in San Francisco is expected to reach 90 degrees. In Oakland it’s expected to be 92 degrees and in San Jose 97 degrees.

By Wednesday, temperatures will drop significantly.

“There is relief in sight,” Peterson said. “It’s just a couple of days out.”

The temperature Wednesday in San Francisco is forecast to be 66 degrees and in Oakland 70 degrees. The cooler temperatures will last through the weekend, Peterson said.
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Wowee! A 104oF record day one month into Autumn.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/california-heat-wave-brings-gusty-winds-high-...

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An autumn heat wave sent California temperatures soaring again Monday, baking coastal cities that normally benefit from the cooling influence of the Pacific Ocean.

The mercury shot up into triple digits in downtown Los Angeles and points north and south as high pressure gripped the drought-stricken state. Most other areas were in the 90s or at least the 80s.

"It is 100 degrees and I have no air conditioning," said Samuel Steinberg, a college professor who lives on a hilltop near Occidental College in northeast Los Angeles. "Luckily, my house is well shaded by trees. But sadly the trees are all dying of thirst."

Brett Richard, the mother of a second-grader in South Pasadena, had two of her sons' friends over for a playdate Monday afternoon.

"I usually make them go outside and throw the football or something," she said. "Today I'm just going to let them stay in and play video games. It's too hot."

Even infrastructure suffered.

The Los Angeles County Metropolitan Transportation Authority imposed speed restrictions on some sections of its Metro Rail commuter lines to avoid damage to tracks and overhead power lines, which reached the upper range of heat tolerances.

The high pressure also spawned Southern California's dangerous Santa Ana winds, the extremely dry and gusty blasts typical of fall that increase the risk of fast-spreading wildfires.

But in a sign of a gradual easing of conditions, the National Weather Service canceled red flag warnings for fire danger at midafternoon.

Several parts of the state saw record-breaking heat on Sunday as temperatures ran 10 to 25 degrees above normal for this time of the year. A record 104 degrees was set in Camarillo, about 47 miles northwest of Los Angeles, beating the old record of 102 set 38 years ago.

San Francisco had a high of 98 degrees Sunday and temperatures in the Bay Area were in the 80s and 90s on Monday.

For a second straight day, the Bay Area Air Quality Management District issued a Spare the Air Alert asking residents not to drive because of smog.

North of San Francisco, crews battled a wildfire in rural Sonoma County in nearly 100-degree heat. The fire, which broke out Sunday morning near Cloverdale, spread to more than 2 square miles and forced some residents to evacuate, state fire officials said.

"With very dry fuels already in place, extreme fire behavior and rapid growth will be likely with any fire ignition," the weather service warned.

On San Diego Bay, schools in the city of Coronado were on a minimum-day schedule Monday. School officials said classes would end at 12:30 p.m. because many of the island's classrooms are not air-conditioned.
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Never heard of UHI.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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lee wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 11:12am:
Never heard of UHI.  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Nice try lee. The heat is transmitted from the sun and trapped by the atmosphere preventing dissipation at night.
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Unforgiven wrote on Sep 27th, 2016 at 12:35pm:
Nice try lee. The heat is transmitted from the sun and trapped by the atmosphere preventing dissipation at night.



And UHI is the effect of increase in Asphalt and Concrete, retaining the heat and more slowly cooling overnight. Now all you have to do is quantify both. Or quantify one and calculate the other. You can’t calculate for two unknowns. Though climate scientists try. Wink

'Changes in satellite-derived impervious surface area at US historical climatology network stations'

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Unforgiven wrote on Sep 26th, 2016 at 6:05pm:
San Francisco USA heat record in USA Fall (Autumn) 97oF:


Whoahoah! 97degF!

I think I had one of those days the other week. And we are not at the peak hot days of December-January yet. For an Autumn day, that is pretty hot. But not unusual for a month outside of Summer.
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One location had 104oF which is 40oC which is very hot one month into Autumn.

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In April, if we had a 40-degree day, it would be a record around here. But, it would not seem all that far-fetched in a time like March. Even a near end of March 40 degree day would not seem out of reach or unusual. I woke up to a 35 degree August day in 2003.
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The evidence accumulates:

http://www.sci-tech-today.com/story.xhtml?story_id=130007AIM85K

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While records were broken, the summer has "been more notable for the consistency of the heat than individual high-impact heatwaves," said Blair Trewin of the Australian Bureau of Meteorology and the World Meteorological Organization.

For example, Savannah, Georgia, had a record 69 days in a row of 90 degrees (32.22 Celsius) or higher.

Twelve U.S. cities had their warmest summers ever, including Las Vegas, New Orleans, Cleveland and Detroit. The globe had its hottest month on record (July) and hottest summer on record. August was the 16th consecutive month Earth set a monthly heat record, according to NOAA.

Temperatures of 129 degrees (54 degrees Celsius) were recorded in Mitribah, Kuwait, and Basra, Iraq. If verified, these would be not only the hottest temperatures recorded for Asia, but the hottest recorded outside a much-debated record in Death Valley, according to weather historians.

The extra heat -- both in the air and oceans -- puts significantly extra moisture in the air, which then comes down as more extreme downpours, said Kevin Trenberth, a senior scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research. And when an area is already dry, droughts worsen because warmer air takes more water out of the ground, like "levying a larger tax on the plants and soil moisture," Arndt said.
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Sea level rise.

The ruins of a Civil War-era structure, Fort Beauregard, lie partially submerged east of New Orleans. Researchers say many large coastal cities around the world sink faster than sea levels rise. Credit: Frank McMains:

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Reply #97 - Oct 9th, 2016 at 12:31pm
 
And WA had the coldest, wettest winter for a long time.

Just weather.

'This report describes the typical weather at the Hunter Aff (Savannah, Georgia, United States) weather station over the course of an average year. It is based on the historical records from 1975 to 2012. Earlier records are either unavailable or unreliable. '

https://weatherspark.com/averages/31707/Savannah-Georgia-United-States

The hottest summer in 40 years? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Reply #98 - Oct 9th, 2016 at 12:35pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Oct 9th, 2016 at 12:29pm:
Sea level rise.

The ruins of a Civil War-era structure, Fort Beauregard, lie partially submerged east of New Orleans. Researchers say many large coastal cities around the world sink faster than sea levels rise. Credit: Frank McMains:

http://climate.nasa.gov/system/news_items/main_images/2487_58_fort768.jpg


you forgot this bit.

'That is the conclusion of a review article published by a team of scientists who recently assembled in New Orleans, La., and in Venice, Italy, to examine the problem. Extraction of groundwater or fossil fuels, and sometimes simply generations of farming, are causing large metropolitan areas in coastal zones around the world to subside surprisingly quickly—making the relative rise of adjacent seas an even greater potential hazard.'

Also known as subsidence. Wink
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Reply #99 - Oct 9th, 2016 at 10:54pm
 
33 degrees today. Felt like summer had already arrived, and we missed spring.
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Reply #100 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 9:24am
 
A new October 19 record in USA fall (Autumn).

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/local/2016/10/19/today-hottest-oct-19...

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Today was the hottest Oct. 19 on record

It's officially hot.

At 4:33 p.m. Wednesday, the National Weather Service reported a record high temperature of 89 degrees at Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport, shattering the old record of 87 set back in 1941.

"It's also the warmest we've ever been this late in the season," the Weather Service said on Twitter.

The normal high for this time of year is 72 degrees, according to Weather Service records.

The uncommonly hot weather also broke records in Charlotte and Asheville, which reported a high temperature of 84 degrees Wednesday afternoon.

The heat will last through Thursday before cooling down to the low 70's this weekend, the Weather Service said.
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Reply #101 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:06am
 
Unforgiven wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 9:24am:
At 4:33 p.m. Wednesday, the National Weather Service reported a record high temperature of 89 degrees at Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport, shattering the old record of 87 set back in 1941.



'Over fifty years ago, the seeds were planted for what is known today as Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport – Roger Milliken Field. Since that first flight which took place in 1962, GSP has earned a reputation of safety and has grown into one of the finest airports in the country.'

http://gspairport.com/aboutgsp/

Wow. It was an international airport 21 years before the first flight?

Maybe Milliken Field existed before then. But i imagine that there is far more concrete runways, buildings etc now.  You have heard of UHI, right?
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lee wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:06am:
Unforgiven wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 9:24am:
At 4:33 p.m. Wednesday, the National Weather Service reported a record high temperature of 89 degrees at Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport, shattering the old record of 87 set back in 1941.


'Over fifty years ago, the seeds were planted for what is known today as Greenville-Spartanburg International Airport – Roger Milliken Field. Since that first flight which took place in 1962, GSP has earned a reputation of safety and has grown into one of the finest airports in the country.'

http://gspairport.com/aboutgsp/

Wow. It was an international airport 21 years before the first flight?

Maybe Milliken Field existed before then. But i imagine that there is far more concrete runways, buildings etc now.  You have heard of UHI, right?


You are losing your cool denizen lee. AGW?
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You are losing your cool denizen lee. AGW?



Nope. UHI. Wink

0.8ºC in about 160 years? With the IPCC claiming about half as AGW? I doubt even you could tell the difference.
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lee wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:45am:
Unforgiven wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 11:42am:
You are losing your cool denizen lee. AGW?


Nope. UHI. Wink

0.8ºC in about 160 years? With the IPCC claiming about half as AGW? I doubt even you could tell the difference.


No man is an island. Central Park is not an island.

Oh my god! There was an instance of 102oF

"NYC weather: Record high temperatures recorded in Central Park

It may be October, but you wouldn't believe it, looking at the thermometer.
The National Weather Service said New York City experienced a record high of 85 degrees in Central Park on Wednesday. The previous record, set in 1928, was 82 degrees.
"The normal [temperature] is about 63, 64, so right now we’re about 20 degrees above the normal high," meteorologist Carlie Buccola said. "It’s a nice little October treat."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2016/10/19/record-heat-indian-summer/92404...

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What happened to fall? Wednesday was another day of record heat across much of the central and eastern U.S., as temperatures soared into the 80s as far north as New England.

Record highs were set Wednesday in cities such as New York City, Philadelphia, Providence, Baltimore, Nashville, Charlotte, and Raleigh, N.C., the National Weather Service reported, some breaking decades-old measurements.

The cause of the heat is a strong area of high pressure over the Southeast, which is helping funnel very warm air northward, AccuWeather meteorologist Andy Mussoline said.

Even though it's from a separate weather pattern across the country, southern California is even getting in on the heat parade, with temperatures in the 90s and 100s forecast for the next few days, along with dry Santa Ana winds that could spark wildfires.

For folks in the East yearning for crisp fall weather, a dramatic "reality check" of cooler temperatures is expected by the end of the week and the weekend, the weather service said. After another warm day Thursday, a cold front moving in Friday will finally usher a cooler Canadian air mass into the central and eastern U.S.

Rain showers and gusty winds will accompany the cooler temperatures, AccuWeather said. The heaviest rain will fall in western Pennsylvania and upstate New York, while some needed showers will also fall in New England, much of which remains in a drought.

By the weekend, high temperatures for the East Coast will even be a bit cooler than average, only in the mid-50s in some areas.

That will be a drastic change from the past few days after more than 250 record temperatures were set across 34 states since Saturday, according to the Weather Channel. That includes both record warm afternoon temperatures and record warm nights.

On Monday, Dodge City, Kan., rose all the way to 101 degrees, setting a new record high for the entire month of October, the weather service reported. It was the hottest October day there since records began in 1875 during the Grant Administration.

On Sunday, the tiny community of Slapout, Okla., (population: 8) hit 102 degrees, making it the hottest temperature so late in the season for the entire state of Oklahoma, according to the Oklahoma Climate Survey.


Can we call this Indian Summer?

There are many theories as to how the term "Indian summer" came into existence. The official definition from the American Meteorological Society's Glossary of Weather and Climate states "an Indian summer is a time interval in mid- or late autumn of unseasonably warm weather, generally with clear skies, sunny but hazy days, and cool nights."

In New England, according to the glossary, at least one killing frost and preferably a period of normally cool weather must precede this warm spell in order for it to be considered a true "Indian summer."

The term is most often heard in the Northeast, but other English-speaking countries also refer to it. It dates back at least to 1778, the glossary notes, but its origin is not certain; most likely it's the way American Indians used this extra opportunity to increase their winter stores.

So far this year, the U.S. is sweltering through its second-warmest year on record, the National Centers for Environmental Information said. Only 2012 was warmer.
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Reply #105 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 2:05pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 12:06pm:
The National Weather Service said New York City experienced a record high of 85 degrees in Central Park on Wednesday. The previous record, set in 1928, was 82 degrees.



Interesting the difference a few days make.

On 12/10/1928 it was 86º.  Unforgiven wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 12:06pm:
On Sunday, the tiny community of Slapout, Okla., (population: 8) hit 102 degrees, making it the hottest temperature so late in the season for the entire state of Oklahoma, according to the Oklahoma Climate Survey.



Wow, Beat 1972 by 1º. Of course they have probably changed from analogue thermometers with an accuracy of +/- 0.5 degrees to those newfangled digital thermometers. But hey it's a new record. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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The temperature chart with September 2016 value. It appears 2016 will be the hottest year on record. 2017 could be even hotter.

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'According to that analysis, the year-to-date has been 1.27°C (2.3°F) above normal. '

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/hottest-months-global-warming-20797

Is that above normal/normal?

Above the new normal excluding the 1997 data that the global temperature was 62.45ºF, where 2015 was 58.62ºF? A 3.83ºF difference. Nope, the new normal difference is nowhere near 0.2ºF above 2015, much less 3.83ºF. Wink
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lee wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 6:14pm:
'According to that analysis, the year-to-date has been 1.27°C (2.3°F) above normal. '

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/hottest-months-global-warming-20797

Is that above normal/normal?

Above the new normal excluding the 1997 data that the global temperature was 62.45ºF, where 2015 was 58.62ºF? A 3.83ºF difference. Nope, the new normal difference is nowhere near 0.2ºF above 2015, much less 3.83ºF. Wink


More nonsense and misdirection from lee.
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Reply #109 - Oct 20th, 2016 at 7:23pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 6:50pm:
lee wrote on Oct 20th, 2016 at 6:14pm:
'According to that analysis, the year-to-date has been 1.27°C (2.3°F) above normal. '

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/hottest-months-global-warming-20797

Is that above normal/normal?

Above the new normal excluding the 1997 data that the global temperature was 62.45ºF, where 2015 was 58.62ºF? A 3.83ºF difference. Nope, the new normal difference is nowhere near 0.2ºF above 2015, much less 3.83ºF. Wink


More nonsense and misdirection from lee.



Oh, I thought you would recognise the data from NOAA. You mean we can't trust NOAA? But they were the ones, along with NASA, who told us 2015 was the hottest year evah.

Now everyone's confused. Wink
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Reply #110 - Oct 23rd, 2016 at 12:36pm
 
Wowee; 100oF in late Autumn. Could shatter 50 records.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/october-heat-wave-could-shatter-50-records-o...

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Record-breaking heat is expected to continue across the U.S. on Tuesday, sending temperatures into the 90s across the South and the low to mid-80s in the Northeast, meteorologists said.

The unseasonably warm weather shattered temperature records in 44 cities Monday, NBC News' Bill Karins reported, with Dodge City, Kansas hitting 100 degrees.

The heat wave will sweep the eastern half of the nation through Wednesday before a strong cold front brings some cooler weather on Friday, Karins said.

"[Tuesday and Wednesday] should be the highest numbers," said Weather Channel meteorologist Kevin Roth. "I would expect some 50 records or more set each day."

Washington, D.C., Philadelphia and New York could feel highs in the mid-80s, Roth predicted.

He added: "These are temperatures that would be more likely to be seen in late August or early September, rather than the middle of October."


https://thinkprogress.org/us-gets-odd-fall-heatwave-7f327a1971da#.o3idwyagv

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Hundreds of towns broke heat records this week. Thanks, climate change!
It’s like summer never left.

Fall officially started a month ago, but for much of the country this week felt like summer, with dozens of cities reporting record-breaking temperatures.

The unusually hot weather stretched through the Southwest and into the Northeast over the course of the week, even as drought conditions continued in various states and a wildfire in southern Colorado prompted mass evacuations.
On Monday alone, at least 99 heat records were broken across the country, NBC reported. In some areas this meant triple-digit temperatures. In the Oklahoma Panhandle, for instance, temperatures soared to 102 degrees, the highest ever recorded this late in the year.

As the warm trend continued through the week, temperatures in the Washington, D.C. area reached an unseasonable high of 87 degrees Wednesday. Birmingham, Alabama hit 91 on Wednesday, breaking the record of 88 set in 1938.
And by Thursday in the Southwest, parts of San Diego County saw temperatures going into the 90s, forcing the National Weather Service to issue a red flag warning for critical fire weather conditions.
Climate change is ruining fall

This October heat wave comes as drought conditions have been wreaking havoc in multiple states not usually associated with a lack of rain. In Maine, some 1.2 million people — almost the state’s entire population — now live in areas experiencing drought, the Portland Press Herald reported.

And in New Jersey, which also experienced unusual warm weather this week, officials are considering whether to issue a drought warning for dozens of counties. The last drought warning in New Jersey was in 2002.

The California drought that’s been pushing the state’s water resources to the brink is also ongoing, and the state’s winter is forecast to come up dry, the San Francisco Chronicle reported.

The National National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) predicts a warm, dry winter for much of the country, according to the U.S. Winter Outlook published Thursday.

La Nina, a cooling of water in the equatorial Pacific, is expected to influence winter conditions this year. This will mean warmer-than-normal conditions expected across the entire southern United States, as well as the central Rockies, Hawaii, northern Alaska, and Maine.

Cooler conditions are likely from northern Montana to western Michigan, NOAA said.
As has been the case every year over the past few years,
2016 is on track to be one of the hottest years ever recorded
. Scientists have long said human-caused global warming is expected to increase the likelihood of heat waves worldwide, and contribute to more droughts, and other extreme weather events.
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Reply #111 - Oct 23rd, 2016 at 12:39pm
 
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Wowee; 100oF in late Autumn. Could shatter 50 records.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/october-heat-wave-could-shatter-50-records-o...

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Record-breaking heat is expected to continue across the U.S. on Tuesday, sending temperatures into the 90s across the South and the low to mid-80s in the Northeast, meteorologists said.

The unseasonably warm weather shattered temperature records in 44 cities Monday, NBC News' Bill Karins reported, with Dodge City, Kansas hitting 100 degrees.

The heat wave will sweep the eastern half of the nation through Wednesday before a strong cold front brings some cooler weather on Friday, Karins said.

"[Tuesday and Wednesday] should be the highest numbers," said Weather Channel meteorologist Kevin Roth. "I would expect some 50 records or more set each day."

Washington, D.C., Philadelphia and New York could feel highs in the mid-80s, Roth predicted.

He added: "These are temperatures that would be more likely to be seen in late August or early September, rather than the middle of October."


Wow 11deg in late Oct this morning.
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Reply #112 - Oct 23rd, 2016 at 12:52pm
 
Well - I was out meteor watching last night and came in half frozen... been cold up here on the Mid North Coast.......... unseasonably cold overall, we've had 2-3 hot days.... and it's more than halfway through Spring.
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Reply #113 - Oct 23rd, 2016 at 2:03pm
 
Agreed grappler. I can't remember cold weather persisting this long into spring.
But even more noticeable has been the almost incessant high winds in the last few months.
Traditionally here in the southern highlands we have had 2 regular periods of high winds - one round about March and the other round August.
But this year the bugger won't stop.
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Reply #114 - Oct 24th, 2016 at 3:44am
 
It has not been a hot spring for me. But the weather has been as expected for this time of year. I turned my hot water system off to save electricity. A fortnight later, I'm shivering through a cold night for Spring. I would not be surprised if a week later, we get a sweltering day of summer. Just have to wait for those northern hemisphere hurricanes to ping off.
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Reply #115 - Nov 7th, 2016 at 7:01pm
 
Heat waves are persisting in USA Autumn:

http://laist.com/2016/11/06/but_like_its_november.php

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Forget about the hoodies. Though Sunday and Monday will be temperate and comfortable November days, temperatures will rise above the 90 degree mark by Tuesday. The heat will stick around on Wednesday and Thursday, and will dissipate on Friday.

This comes on authority from the National Weather Service (NWS), which expects temperatures at its downtown L.A. to be unseasonably warm all throughout the upcoming week. Though high temperatures historically average about 74 degrees across L.A. by this point in the year, the NWS predicts the Tuesday's high temperature will be 87 degrees. On Wednesday, that number will rise to 90 degrees, dropping slightly to 88 degrees on Thursday. As always, folks in the Valleys and Inland Empire can expect slightly higher temperatures, and those closer to the coast slightly lower.

Though it will be warm throughout this week, conditions will generally be clear and otherwise pleasant. The NWS predicts that the temperature should settle back to about 80 degrees by Friday, in downtown. Weather next weekend will be beautiful, about 79 degrees and clear each day.

The good news is that this should be the last heat-wave we experience for a while. Examining AccuWeather's long-range forecast, temperatures throughout November will generally be in mid 70s. The bad news is that, unfortunately, rain is nowhere in the long-term forecast. While long-term forecasting generally becomes more unreliable the father into the future it goes, the month of November is predicted to be bone dry. The next rain will supposedly grace us on December 3.

Look, I'm an L.A. native, and am very used to hot and dry conditions late into the year. While friends from other parts of the country are complaining that it's 85 degrees in October—'it's un-natural!' they say—I take full advantage of the warmth to continue living my life outdoors whenever possible.

But, like, it's November! Usually by now it's cooled down at least to the low 70s, right?

The answer might be found in La Niña, El Niño's opposite that forces warm and dry high-pressure systems to hang out over Southern California instead of cool and rainy low-pressure systems. Of course, La Niña could also be a bust. Let's just blame climate change.
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Reply #116 - Nov 7th, 2016 at 7:21pm
 
Wow. It got to 100º in 1966 Wink.
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The stratospshere has shrunk from cooling due to greenhouse gases preventing heat radiated from earth's surface from warming the stratosphere.

http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/4274134/stratosphere-shrinks-as-record-breaki...

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Those warning of climate change impacts have been likened to Chicken Littles, scuttling around, warning the sky is falling.

That worry, it turns out, is based on fact too. Cooling in the stratosphere is causing it to shrink, lowering that layer by "a number of kilometres", NASA noted recently.

Our burning of fossil fuels and emissions of other greenhouse gases mean more of the earth's heat that would have been radiated back to space – warming the stratosphere on the way – is being trapped at lower levels of the atmosphere.

"It's like when you insulate your roof – your house warms but your attic will get a bit cooler," says Steven Sherwood, a climate scientist at the University of NSW. Those "attic" temperatures have cooled 2-3 degrees since the 1960s.

To be sure, the shrinking stratosphere is only partly climate-change related, with the emergence of ozone holes the other main factor. Still, "it's all about the human impact on the climate system", Professor Sherwood says.

That impact has lately been on full display as rising background temperatures – with an El Nino boost – drove 2014, 2015, and now 2016 to record-breaking warmth.

As the Bureau of Meteorology and the CSIRO stated recently, Australia can expect more severe heatwaves, extreme fire weather and intense rain events as the planet warms further.

Our coral reefs are particularly threatened, with widespread mortality of the northern Great Barrier Reef after a severe oceanic heatwave, seen as a sign of what's to come.

Last December, almost 200 nations decided to act to curb rising greenhouse gas emissions. The Paris climate agreement aims to keep global temperatures increases to no more than 2 degrees – or about 1 degree more than has already occurred in the past century...


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Reply #118 - Nov 7th, 2016 at 9:18pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Nov 7th, 2016 at 7:29pm:
The stratospshere has shrunk from cooling due to greenhouse gases preventing heat radiated from earth's surface from warming the stratosphere.

http://www.thecourier.com.au/story/4274134/stratosphere-shrinks-as-record-breaki...



Well that should make it easier to find the tropical tropospheric hotspot, that is supposed to warm 2 to 3 times the surface rate. Wink
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Reply #119 - Nov 7th, 2016 at 9:42pm
 
Hot late Autumn weather for the United States would mean a late start to the monsoonal season here.
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" ... October showed a marked reduction in rainfall ..."

Australia is burning up:

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A COMBINATION of three different climatic influences on Australia’s weather is heightening concerns that this bushfire season could be one of the most ferocious yet.

Together with steadily rising temperatures due to the ongoing effects of climate change, parts of Australia have gone from having some of the wettest months on record to tinderbox conditions in just weeks.
Scores of bushfires have erupted across New South Wales, with several still out of control.
The largest blaze, the Lone Pine fire, is burning its way through 6500 hectares close to Port Stephens on the NSW mid-north coast.

The Rural Fire Service have said hot and windy conditions could exacerbate about 20 fires.
Although bushfire season can start at any time from October onwards, the sheer number of fires this early November has raised eyebrows. Parts of NSW reached into the high 30s on Monday.
“The reason for all of that heat is a really warm air mass over us at the moment and north westerly winds bringing heat from central parts of Australia,” the Bureau of Meteorology’s Rebecca Kamitakahara told news.com.au.
“These dry gusty north westerlies through the mid-north coast and Hunter have been helping to fan the fires,” she said.

NSW Rural Fire Service firefighters oversee a backburn operation on Medowie Rd, at Medowie near Port Stephens on Monday. Picture: AAP Image/Dan Himbrechts.
NSW Rural Fire Service firefighters oversee a backburn operation on Medowie Rd, at Medowie near Port Stephens on Monday. Picture: AAP Image/Dan Himbrechts.Source:AAP
While a cooler change was slowly working its way up the state over the coming days, come the weekend the winds will change, bringing with it the hot central Australian air.

It all tallies with a trifecta of climatic conditions coming in from Antarctica and the Indian and Pacific oceans.
Forming a pincer movement, southern Australia is where these three weather systems meet.

A few months ago it was all so different.
Late last month, the Bureau of Meteorology (BoM) released its climate outlook up until January, remarking that while spring had been notable for its storms, winds and rains, that could all be about to change.
In September, much of the country was deluged with rain. Source: BoM.

October showed a marked reduction in rainfall. Source: BoM.Source.

Indeed, a triple weather whammy consisting of the lack of La Nina and two other systems — the Indian Ocean Dipole and the Southern Annular Mode — has brought a sudden end to the rain.
Much of the rain was driven by a negative Indian Ocean Dipole — or IOD — streaming moisture into southern and Central Australia from the tropics.


The IOD is the Indian Ocean equivalent of the far better known El Niño and La Nina weather patterns that dominate the climate in the Pacific Ocean.

Just like El Niño and La Nina, the IOD can bring more or less rain to Australia depending on the sea temperature.
Over the past few months, a negative IOD has pushed wetter weather towards the continent. Not for much longer as it transitions into a neutral phase.

BoM climatologist Agata Imielska told news.com.au the IOD was most keenly felt west of the Great Dividing Range, which formed a “physical block” for the moisture. While coastal troughs had brought rain to the east coast, it was no coincidence that the current fires were where the negative IOD had the least impact, she said.
While the weakening IOD won’t itself won’t bring scorching hot temperatures, it has coincided with a very lazy La Nina.

The negative Indian Ocean Dipole, which has brought rain across the continent, is weakening which means less rain. Source: BoM.

La Nina is caused by cooler sea temperatures in the eastern Pacific leading to more rainfall in Australia.
In April, meteorologists were saying a La Nina was a 50 per cent possibility. But it still hasn’t really arrived.
“It’s like the Pacific has been toying with the idea of La Nina,” said Ms Imielska. “At times it has been bit more keen and other times it’s backed off. La Nina has not really made up its mind.”

Warmer seas in Northern Australia were almost certain to lead to more tropical cyclones this year in Queensland, and could develop into thunderstorms elsewhere, but there’s no guarantee it will bring the rains needed to keep the ground damp.
“All of that rainfall has stimulated growth and the negative IOD has pulled away creating an increased potential of bushfire weather particularly with climate change,” said Ms Imielska.
“We’re heading into the warmest part of the year and it really doesn’t take much to create concern.”
That concern could come in the form of a rascal number three called the Southern Annular Mode, or SAM, that is blowing away the rain.

This is a bunch of winds that circle — from west to east — around the globe between Antarctica and Australia.

The Southern Annual Mode will bring reduced rainfall to southern Australia effectively blocking moist air from the Tasman. Source: BoM...
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You do realise "much of the country" is not all of the country, right?

You do understand precipitation (rain) is unrelated to warmer weather?

Do do realise there have been large crop losses due to frosts? Frost are a symptom of cold.

perhaps you need a new thread "I'm not saying it is hot"

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"I'm not saying it is wet"
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More rain means more moisture is present in the atmosphere to precipitate as rain. More evaporation to increase that moisture content requires more heat.

Sorry Lees, but it really does, doesn’t it Lees, like the world is heating up, don’t you agree Lees?
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Reply #123 - Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:27pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:19pm:
More rain means more moisture is present in the atmosphere to precipitate as rain. More evaporation to increase that moisture content requires more heat.

Sorry Lees, but it really does, doesn’t it Lees, like the world is heating up, don’t you agree Lees?


Does it have to come from a local source? Or does it precipitate out elsewhere? Wink
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Now Lees, I am sure you know, Lees, I was making the point that more precipitation means more moisture is needed to cause that extra precipitation and that extra moisture must come from more evaporation beforehand, right Lees, and a warming world will see more evaporation and a cooler world less, isn’t that right Lees?

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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:51pm:
Now Lees, I am sure you know, Lees, I was making the point that more precipitation means more moisture is needed to cause that extra precipitation and that extra moisture must come from more evaporation beforehand, right Lees, and a warming world will see more evaporation and a cooler world less, isn’t that right Lees?

Right, Lees?


A wrong point but a point. Wink It does not necessarily precipitate where the warming occurred.

You could of course post evidence that there has been more precipitation worldwide, if you can find it. Wink
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I never said where the moisture would precipitate out!

Re proof of more moisture? Booby’s video! bwahahahaha!
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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:07pm:
I never said where the moisture would precipitate out!

Re proof of more moisture? Booby’s video! bwahahahaha!


So it is going to stay there and increase global temperatures? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Well it will be more effective than CO2, as the IR bands overlap. That is why the CO2 is lost in the noise.
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lee wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:07pm:
I never said where the moisture would precipitate out!

Re proof of more moisture? Booby’s video! bwahahahaha!


So it is going to stay there and increase global temperatures? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


What exactly are you rabbiting on about?
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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:37pm:
lee wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:07pm:
I never said where the moisture would precipitate out!

Re proof of more moisture? Booby’s video! bwahahahaha!


So it is going to stay there and increase global temperatures? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


What exactly are you rabbiting on about?


You don't know what you posted. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

If it is not going to precipitate out it will help warm the earth, far more effectively than CO2.
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You are describing a positive feedback making AGW worse, are you, Lees?

I was clearly talking about precipitation, BTW. Weird how you always try to sidetrack discussion.
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lee wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 6:00pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:37pm:
lee wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:20pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 5:07pm:
I never said where the moisture would precipitate out!

Re proof of more moisture? Booby’s video! bwahahahaha!


So it is going to stay there and increase global temperatures? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


What exactly are you rabbiting on about?


You don't know what you posted. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

If it is not going to precipitate out it will help warm the earth, far more effectively than CO2.


Global warming causes more evaporation which may well be positive feedback to global warming.
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Global warming causes more evaporation which may well be positive feedback to global warming.


Well you didn't get that from the bulk of the CMIP5 models. They don't do clouds or water vapour.
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lee wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:17pm:
You do realise "much of the country" is not all of the country, right?

You do understand precipitation (rain) is unrelated to warmer weather?

Do do realise there have been large crop losses due to frosts? Frost are a symptom of cold.

perhaps you need a new thread "I'm not saying it is hot"

or

"I'm not saying it is wet"


I enjoyed the September rainfall. Nice to have an above average rainfall this year. Good to have heavy rain during the winter months. And I have found that western Qld having unseasonal and much needed heavy rain has meant that my nights have been cooler for much longer over the prior summer weather we are getting now in eastern CQ.

Crops have been lost as a result of heavy unseasonal rain in southern, temperate Australia. Potato farms have seen loss of potato crops from the rain storms. But that is typical for the losses that farmers are accustomed.

I predict heavy rain for my Central Queensland region, with a cyclone forming in the Gulf of Carpentaria in December. Then it should cross the state in an east south easterly direction. Place your bets.
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Potential heavy rain tomorrow with severe storm. Something to keep us on our toes, and give us some reprieve from this humid heat.
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More record breaking Autumn heat in North America including right up to Canada:

http://www.kdrv.com/weather/Temperature_Records_Set_During_Southern_California_H...

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LOS ANGELES (AP) - Temperatures will hit the 90s again during an autumn heat wave that has already set or tied Southern California weather records.

Red flag warnings are in place through Wednesday evening as hot, dry winds bring elevated fire danger to inland areas.

The National Weather Service says Tuesday's 93-degree high at Long Beach Airport broke the previous record of 91 set in 1996. Wednesday's forecast highs are 92 in downtown Los Angeles and 93 in Pasadena.

The heat event is accompanied by pounding waves, leading officials to issue a high surf advisory for several Southern California beaches. West and northwest-facing beaches could see surf between 12 and 18 feet.

Forecasters warn of dangerous rip currents and sneaker waves.
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lee wrote on Nov 9th, 2016 at 4:17pm:
You do realise "much of the country" is not all of the country, right?

You do understand precipitation (rain) is unrelated to warmer weather?

Do do realise there have been large crop losses due to frosts? Frost are a symptom of cold.

perhaps you need a new thread "I'm not saying it is hot"

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Do you realise that everytime you post you make a dick of yourself Lee?

Do you really think you are fooling anyone?
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rabbitoh08 wrote on Nov 12th, 2016 at 2:02am:
Do you realise that everytime you post you make a dick of yourself Lee?

Do you really think you are fooling anyone?
Seriously?


Well rabbitoh08 if anyone looks the fool its you lot with your doomsday prophecies.

Your (the alarmists) proof that CO2 is the driver of any warming in any part of Earth's history is full of it and easily shot down, you lot refuse to debate it any longer in public and now exclaim mitigation on AGW.

Must be a big relief not having to defend such a pseudo science as AGW.......... Grin


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Alaska experiences new temperature records:

http://www.thearcticsounder.com/article/1645barrow_sees_warmest_october_on_recor...

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The nation's northernmost community just closed out its warmest October on record, and other far-north parts of Alaska also posted records for autumn warmth, the National Weather Service said.

The monthly average temperature in Barrow, set for a name change to Utqiagvik on Dec. 1, was 30.1 degrees Fahrenheit, the weather service said. That was 12.9 degrees warmer than the 1981-2010 average and 2.6 degrees higher than the previous record-warm October, which occurred in 2012, according to National Weather Service data. There were several new daily records set over the month, including the warmest October day ever in Barrow, Oct. 10, when the temperature hit 44 degrees.

Weather records in Barrow go back to 1920. It was once the site of a Navy research lab.
Three other coastal communities — Kotzebue, Nome and St. Paul - also posted record-warm October averages, the National Weather Service said.

For Barrow, this October's weather is part of a strong pattern over the last decade and a half. Every October after 2001 has been significantly warmer than average there. That is a departure from decades of up-and-down monthly temperatures for Barrow, which had its second-coldest October on record in 1988, the year that three whales got trapped in rapidly forming ice, triggering a rescue that attracted global attention.

Barrow's new pattern of warm autumns is linked to reduced Arctic sea ice. When there is no ice covering the sea, heat in the water rises into the atmosphere and warms Barrow and similarly situated places.

But this fall, lack of ice has not been the only factor heating up Barrow, said Rick Thoman, climate science and services manager for the National Weather Service in Alaska.

"Of course, no ice in Barrow in October means it has to be warm," Thoman said. Added to that, he said, is a very persistent weather pattern blowing in from the south. For keeping sea ice low and air temperatures high, "This is like the perfect storm."

The weather pattern has helped slow ice formation, affecting Barrow and, to a lesser degree, Kotzebue, Thoman said.
The persistent and stable weather system has warmed places like Nome and St. Paul, he said. It also brought dry weather to much of the state, including Southeast Alaska, where communities posted driest or second-driest months on record, he said.

As for autumn warmth, Barrow is not alone in the far north.
For this time of the year, temperatures are high and sea ice is relatively sparse across the Arctic, said Mark Serreze, director of the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado.

Sea ice has been growing much more slowly than usual for late fall, causing the buildup of the ice pack to lag.
"We're at a record low for this time of the year," Serreze said. Ice extent — the area where ice covers at least 15 percent of the water's surface — was about one-quarter lower on Monday than the 1981-2010 average for Oct. 31, according to NSIDC records.

That is the result of relatively warm temperatures in the air above the fringes of the ice pack and warmth held in the water below, Serreze said.

"It's a double whammy," he said.
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I wonder why Dumanurespreader who forges the videos Booby religiously uploads and calls “evidence” has not made a video about the Alaskan heatwave or earlier Siberian heatwave?

Is it because he is making all that crap up? Very likely, the only interesting question is: why? Bet he is getting paid by fossil fuel interests to post that ice age crap!
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Sea ice at record low:

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Sea ice formation looking really bad as curve flattens out when it should be rising this time of year.

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So, there are over 3 million square kilometres of ice covering the Arctic sea by middle of September? That's 1500 x 2000 kilometres of ice. That does not sound too bad for an area of Earth that gets 4 months worth of considerable sunshine per year. Not like it could get warm enough there to melt entirely. There are places in Arctica where the ice is so frozen, it would take a year's worth of tropical weather to melt. Considering that the ice would not be able to melt due to its location, you won't see a loss of Arctic ice any further than it has in past and future.
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The record compared to 1979. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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The record compared to 1979. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

So?
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lee wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 4:02pm:
The record compared to 1979. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

So?


Try at least 2 climate periods. 4 or 5 would be better. Wink
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2016 will be new record high. Ocean temperature also at record high.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-14/world-set-for-hottest-year-on-record-again...

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2016 is set to be the world's hottest year on record.

According to the World Meteorological Organisation's preliminary statement on the global climate for 2016, released on Monday, global temperatures for January to September were 0.88 degrees C above the long-term (1961-90) average, 0.11 degrees C above the record set last year, and about 1.2 degrees C above pre-industrial levels.

Whilst the year is not yet over, the final weeks of 2016 would need to be the coldest of the 21st century for 2016's final number to drop below last year's.

Record-setting temperatures in 2016 came as no real surprise. Global temperatures continue to rise at a rate of 0.10-0.15 degrees C per decade, and over the five years from 2011 to 2015 they averaged 0.59 degrees C above the 1961-1990 average.

Giving temperatures a further boost this year was the very strong El Nino event of 2015-16. As we saw in 1998, global temperatures in years where the year starts with a strong El Nino are typically 0.1-0.2 degrees C warmer than the years either side of them, and 2016 is following the same script.

Almost everywhere was warm

Warmth covered almost the entire world in 2016, but was most significant in high latitudes of the Northern Hemisphere.

Extreme heat events increasing
The duration, frequency and intensity of extreme heat events have increased across large parts of Australia. National science reporter Jake Sturmer picks out the key elements of the 2016 State of the Climate report.
Some parts of the Russian Arctic have been a remarkable 6-7 degrees C above average for the year, whilst Alaska is having its warmest year on record by more than a degree.

Almost the whole Northern Hemisphere north of the tropics has been at least 1 degrees C above average. North America and Asia are both having their warmest year on record, with Africa, Europe and Oceania close to record levels.

The only significant land areas which are having a cooler-than-normal year are northern and central Argentina, and parts of southern Western Australia.

The warmth did not just happen on land.

Ocean temperatures were also at record high levels in many parts of the world, and many tropical coral reefs were affected by bleaching, including the Great Barrier Reef off Australia.
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lee wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 11:42pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 6:12pm:
lee wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 4:02pm:
The record compared to 1979. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

So?


Try at least 2 climate periods. 4 or 5 would be better. Wink

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TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 14th, 2016 at 4:13pm:
lee wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 11:42pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 6:12pm:
lee wrote on Nov 13th, 2016 at 4:02pm:
The record compared to 1979. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

So?


Try at least 2 climate periods. 4 or 5 would be better. Wink

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Are you daddy with his big rhinoceros huffs and puffs?

Fascists hide behind other fascists and you killing the children is an example of that!


Thank you for another rant. Can we have science please?

You know, The "pause" or "hiatus". in the mould (sic) of Karl et al. Wink
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2016 will be new record high.



Compared to 1997 or 2015? Wink
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The arctic is 20oC (36oF) warmer than normal for this time of year and sea ice is at record minimum.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/11/17/the-north-p...

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The North Pole is an insane 36 degrees warmer than normal as winter descends

Political people in the United States are watching the chaos in Washington in the moment. But some people in the science community are watching the chaos somewhere else — the Arctic.

It’s polar night there now — the sun isn’t rising in much of the Arctic. That’s when the Arctic is supposed to get super-cold, when the sea ice that covers the vast Arctic Ocean is supposed to grow and thicken.

But in fall of 2016 — which has been a zany year for the region, with multiple records set for low levels of monthly sea ice — something is totally off. The Arctic is super-hot, even as a vast area of cold polar air has been displaced over Siberia.

At the same time, one of the key indicators of the state of the Arctic — the extent of sea ice covering the polar ocean — is at a record low. The ice is freezing up again, as it always does this time of year after reaching its September low, but it isn’t doing so as rapidly as usual.

In fact, the ice’s area is even lower than it was during the record-low 2012:

Twitter’s expert Arctic watchers also are stunned. Zack Labe, a PhD student at the University of California at Irvine who studies the Arctic, tweeted out an image on Wednesday from the Danish Meteorological Institute showing Arctic temperatures about 20 degrees Celsius higher than normal above 80 degrees North Latitude.

Daily mean temperatures for the Arctic area north of the 80th northern parallel. (Danish Meteorological Institute)
“Despite onset of #PolarNight, temperatures near #NorthPole increasing. Extraordinary situation right now in #Arctic, w/record low #seaice,” added Daniel Swain, a climate scientist at UCLA.

This is the second year in a row that temperatures near the North Pole have risen to freakishly warm levels. During 2015’s final days, the temperature near the Pole spiked to the melting point thanks to a massive storm that pumped warm air into the region.

So what’s going on here?

“It’s about 20C [36 degrees Fahrenheit] warmer than normal over most of the Arctic Ocean, along with cold anomalies of about the same magnitude over north-central Asia,” Jennifer Francis, an Arctic specialist at Rutgers University, said by email Wednesday.

“The Arctic warmth is the result of a combination of record-low sea-ice extent for this time of year, probably very thin ice, and plenty of warm/moist air from lower latitudes being driven northward by a very wavy jet stream.”

Francis has published research suggesting that the jet stream, which travels from west to east across the Northern Hemisphere in the mid-latitudes, is becoming more wavy and elongated as the Arctic warms faster than the equator does.

“It will be fascinating to see if the stratospheric polar vortex continues to be as weak as it is now, which favors a negative Arctic Oscillation and probably a cold mid/late winter to continue over central and eastern Asia and eastern North America. The extreme behavior of the Arctic in 2016 seems to be in no hurry to quit,” Francis continued.

Francis cited the work of Judah Cohen, a forecaster with Atmospheric and Environmental Research, who has linked odd jet stream behavior with cold air over Siberia.

Indeed, another Arctic expert, James Overland with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, said that the jet stream at the moment is well configured to transport warmth northward into the Arctic. “There is strong warm advection into the Arctic, especially northern-central Canada, in through the Atlantic,  and east Siberian/Chukchi Sea,” Overland said.

The whole situation is pretty extreme, several experts agreed.

“Both the persistence and magnitude of these temperature anomalies are quite unusual,” Labe added by email. “Large variability in temperatures is common in the Arctic (especially during the cold season), but the duration of this warm Arctic — cold Siberia pattern is unusual and quite an impressive crysophere/sea ice feedback.” (The “cryosphere” refers to that part of the Earth’s system that is made up of ice.)

Abnormally warm air has flooded the Arctic since October. Richard James, a meteorologist who pens a blog on Alaska weather, analyzed 19 weather stations surrounding the Arctic Ocean and found that the average temperature was about 4 degrees (2 Celsius) above the record set in 1998.

Since November, temperatures have risen even higher. “It is amazing to see that the warmth has become even more pronounced since the end of October,” James wrote on his blog.

Mark Serreze, who heads the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colo., agrees that something odd is going on. Not only are air temperatures unusually warm, but water temperatures are as well.  “There are some areas in the Arctic Ocean that are as much as 25 degrees Fahrenheit above average now,” Serreze said. “It’s pretty crazy.” ...
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Unforgiven wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 9:22am:
The arctic is 20oC (36oF) warmer than normal for this time of year and sea ice is at record minimum.



Compared to 1978-9? How shocking. I wonder how they sailed the Arctic in sailing ships without icebreakers? Wink
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It is warm, give over Lees!

The question of what is happening in the Arctic deserves proper scrutiny and debate, not your red herrings.

Cold air is now over Siberia which had its own heatwave last NH summer.

Something is changing.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 12:20pm:
It is warm, give over Lees!

The question of what is happening in the Arctic deserves proper scrutiny and debate, not your red herrings.

Cold air is now over Siberia which had its own heatwave last NH summer.

Something is changing.


Ok. It is warm. What are the parameters for "normal for his time of year"? If 1978-9 is not the base for " sea ice is at record minimum"; what is?

Curious minds want to know.

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Who the hell cares, lees?

If it is warm—why is it warm? Why is the really cold air now over Siberia? Why did Siberia have a heatwave last NH summer? THOSE are the questions we would like some answers to.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 12:30pm:
Who the hell cares, lees?


I do. If it has happened before, like in the early 20th century, is it anything abnormal?

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 12:30pm:
Why is the really cold air now over Siberia?


Siberia is in part in the North of Russia. I would expect it. Remember short summers.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 12:30pm:
Why did Siberia have a heatwave last NH summer? T


Because temperatures vary wildly in Siberia.

Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 12:30pm:
THOSE are the questions we would like some answers to.


Done. Wink



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I see no answers, Lees.
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I see no answers, Lees.


I guess you must be obtuse.

Perhaps Gaia did it? Wink
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Hmmmm, from the article posted by Unforgiven:

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“The Arctic warmth is the result of a combination of record-low sea-ice extent for this time of year, probably very thin ice, and plenty of warm/moist air from lower latitudes being driven northward by a very wavy jet stream.”


That jetstream has greatly weakened and has probably caused some of the (real) weather events in Booby’s fatuous videos.

What is happening with the Gulf stream is what interests me: Greenland is still melting and fresh water is not turning into ice.

If the Gulf Stream goes the UK and Western Europe will no longer be habitable.
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There is no doubt 2016 will be hottest year on record. 2017 could be even hotter as it will start with a higher temperature than 2015.

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http://www.climatecentral.org/news/2016-hottest-year-on-record-20887

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La Niña could continue to cool global temperatures through the last two months of the year, bringing the year-to-date temperature closer to 2015. But no matter the final yearly rankings, 2014, 2015 and 2016 will be the three hottest years on record, Blunden said.

Their chart-topping temperatures are mainly due to the excess heat trapped over decades by ever-rising levels of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.

In NOAA’s records, the 15 most abnormally warm months have happened since March 2015, including every month of 2016 through September (one exception was January 2007, which tied for 11th place).

In fact, global temperatures have been above-average for 382 months in a row by NOAA’s reckoning, going all the way back to the Reagan administration. To find a record cold month requires going all the way back to February 1929. The last record-cold year was even further back, in 1911.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 1:00pm:
Hmmmm, from the article posted by Unforgiven:

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“The Arctic warmth is the result of a combination of record-low sea-ice extent for this time of year, probably very thin ice, and plenty of warm/moist air from lower latitudes being driven northward by a very wavy jet stream.”


That jetstream has greatly weakened and has probably caused some of the (real) weather events in Booby’s fatuous videos.

What is happening with the Gulf stream is what interests me: Greenland is still melting and fresh water is not turning into ice.

If the Gulf Stream goes the UK and Western Europe will no longer be habitable.


Thank you for repeating the "record low" crap.

You do know the polar jetstream is associated with the Polar Vortex? You do know the Polar Vortex varies? You do know the Polar Vortex wanders south on occasion? It has actually been known since 1853.

Despite reports of the Gulfstream slowing, there is no evidence, in fact there is a report of Gulfstream measurements showing it is not.

Then there is the claim that Iceland melt is causing problems.

'In fact, a year-long study of Greenland’s interior ice sheet showed how very little precipitation is lost via evaporation or melting due to the island’s unique “thermal lid.”

The study, published in Science Advances, illustrates how this unique thermal lid prevents snow and ice from escaping the island, allowing the ice sheet to continuously accumulate in mass. And despite computer climate models claiming Greenland’s ice sheet would be one of the first fatalities in a warming world, this first-of-its-kind study offers convincing evidence that Greenland’s ice sheet remains robust and stable.'

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/07/14/danish-scientist-demolishes-a...
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I never said the Gulfstream was slowing.

The record low was in a quote. I guess, Lees, that Lees is postulating a near icefree Arctic not noticed by the nations adjoining the Arctic: Russia, Finland, Norway, Canada and US (Alaska.)

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There is no doubt 2016 will be hottest year on record. 2017 could be even hotter as it will start with a higher temperature than 2015.


Yes. We know NASA/NOAA/GISS uses the Karl et al and Huang et al ocean temperature manipulation. The significance given in the study is 0.10, but that is a very weak significance. Good significance is generally below 0.05.

Again it ignores 1997 temperature of 62.45ºF, according to NOAA.
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Yup, hotter and hotter.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 1:25pm:
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I never said the Gulfstream was slowing.

The record low was in a quote. I guess, Lees, that Lees is postulating a near icefree Arctic not noticed by the nations adjoining the Arctic: Russia, Finland, Norway, Canada and US (Alaska.)

Do you believe in many such fairy tales Lees? Seems you do if you read Breitbart for scientific information  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy



Perhaps you missed that it was in Science Advances.

But here is the paper to read at your leisure. Wink

http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/advances/2/4/e1501704.full.pdf

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This is an interesting blog, good observational data, bit low on science maybe.

http://ak-wx.blogspot.com.au/
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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 1:30pm:
Yup, hotter and hotter.


Yep 62.45ºF (1997) trumps 58.62ºF (2015). Climate science where cooler is hotter. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 1:45pm:
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This is an interesting blog, good observational data, bit low on science maybe.


So you don't want to read the actual paper? Why am I not surprised? Wink
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Mark Serreze, who heads the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colo., agrees that something odd is going on. Not only are air temperatures unusually warm, but water temperatures are as well.  “There are some areas in the Arctic Ocean that are as much as 25 degrees Fahrenheit above average now,” Serreze said. “It’s pretty crazy.”

What’s happening, he explains, is sort of a “double whammy.” On the one hand, there is a “very warm underlying ocean” due to the lack of sea ice forming above it. But, at the same time, kinks in the jet stream have allowed warm air to flow northward and frigid Arctic air to descend over Siberia.

“The sea ice is at a record low right now, for this time of year, that’s one thing,” Serreze said. “And why it’s so low — again, there’s so much heat in the upper ocean in these ice-free areas, the ice just can’t form right now. The ocean’s just got to get rid of this heat somehow, and it’s having a hard time doing so.”



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Mark Serreze, who heads the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colo., agrees that something odd is going on. Not only are air temperatures unusually warm, but water temperatures are as well.  “There are some areas in the Arctic Ocean that are as much as 25 degrees Fahrenheit above average now,” Serreze said. “It’s pretty crazy.”

What’s happening, he explains, is sort of a “double whammy.” On the one hand, there is a “very warm underlying ocean” due to the lack of sea ice forming above it. But, at the same time, kinks in the jet stream have allowed warm air to flow northward and frigid Arctic air to descend over Siberia.

“The sea ice is at a record low right now, for this time of year, that’s one thing,” Serreze said. “And why it’s so low — again, there’s so much heat in the upper ocean in these ice-free areas, the ice just can’t form right now. The ocean’s just got to get rid of this heat somehow, and it’s having a hard time doing so.”



https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/11/17/the-north-p...


It's odd? Is it catastrophic? Is it anything meaningful?  Has it never happened before? Is it unprecedented? Wink
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More heat waves are about to hit Australia.

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Unforgiven wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 3:19pm:
More heat waves are about to hit Australia.


Oh, NO. More weather.
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That is all Booby’s videos are and they are exaggerated at best and often just made up out of thin air—and Unforgiven didn’t say the heatwaves were AGW.

It gets cold in winter and hot in summer but winters getting a bit less cold and summers a bit more warm over time.
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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 5:07pm:
That is all Booby’s videos are and they are exaggerated at best and often just made up out of thin air—and Unforgiven didn’t say the heatwaves were AGW.

It gets cold in winter and hot in summer but winters getting a bit less cold and summers a bit more warm over time.



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Well, you do it all the time and Booby posts his stupid lying videos all the time. Put it down to the human condition, eh?
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Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 5:19pm:
Well, you do it all the time


Yeah. with scientific references you don't want to read.

Nature, Science etc. Wink
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lee wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 5:22pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 5:19pm:
Well, you do it all the time


Yeah. with scientific references you don't want to read.

Nature, Science etc. Wink


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yep. They quoted a Science mag. With  you the dog just eats your homework. "I remember reading it somewhere". Wink
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Melbourne:
31 tomorrow & 38 degrees on Monday.

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml

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Bobby. wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
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31 tomorrow & 38 degrees on Monday.

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml

Lucky I have a good aircon.


For much of tomorrow, I work indoors in airconditioning. But even 38 degrees does not sound too bad to be running about during the day.
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Bobby. wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
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31 tomorrow & 38 degrees on Monday.

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml

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Its not just the Arctic which is at record low sea ice. The Antarctic is as well. Its now being hypothesized that climate is leaving and equilibrium phase and that rising temperatures cause the CO2 effect to increase.

Historic divergences from equilibrium range have produced temperature increases of 4oC.

https://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/game-over-will-global-warming-be...

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This year, Arctic sea ice (shown on the left, above) has been suffering, with the lowest winter maximum on record, record low extents through May and the first half of June, the second lowest summer minimum on record, and now this slow growth and record low extents from late October until now.

In the Antarctic (shown right, above), 2016 sea ice extent has been roughly average, thus well below the levels that have been seen over the past several years, until early September, just as it was reaching what should have been its peak during the southern winter. At this point, sea ice extent plummeted, to well below average and has remained so since, and has been at record low extent since the first week of November.

Things may be worse than we first thought...

New research is revealing that Earth's climate sensitivity may actually get worse as global temperatures continue to rise.

Equilibrium climate sensitivity is the measure of just how much global temperatures will rise due to a doubling of carbon dioxide concentrations in the atmosphere. Pre-industrial carbon dioxide concentrations were roughly 280 parts per million in the atmosphere, so climate scientists have been trying to find out how much warming we can expect if the concentration was increased to 560 ppm due to the continued use of fossil fuels.

The hope has been that climate sensitivity is low - perhaps just a degree or two Celsius, at the most. Reality, however, has been a bit more harsh, pointing more towards a climate sensitivity of between 2oC and 7oC, with a rise of around 3oC being the most likely outcome.
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ooh, natural variability. So scary. Also only going back to 1978-79.

You remember how the 'Ship of Fools' got stuck in the thinning Ice? Wink Wink Wink

Mawson actually sailed into Commonwealth bay in 1911, in a steam yacht. He didn't become trapped. Wink
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UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 10:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
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31 tomorrow & 38 degrees on Monday.

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml

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For much of tomorrow, I work indoors in airconditioning. But even 38 degrees does not sound too bad to be running about during the day.



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Double whammy heat wave about to hit Eastern Australia:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3944394/Temperatures-parts-Australia-rea...

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Feeling hot hot hot! Double heatwave will see temperatures soar past 40C across Australia - with Sydney heating up TODAY just in time for the weekend

Temperatures in parts of Australia could reach a scorching 40 degrees
The hot weather is thanks to dry air traveling east from Australia's centre 
Melbourne had  its hottest day in eight months on Thursday at 30 degrees
First heatwave will hit on Friday, with another one coming early next week

The mercury is set to rise across Australia in the coming week, as temperatures in parts of the country could reach a scorching 40 degrees.

The summery weather is thanks to dry air traveling east from Australia's red centre and teaming up with a high pressure system.

Capital cities across the country will be blasted by a first heatwave on Friday, with a second surge hitting early next week and bringing even hotter temperatures.

Craig Burke, senior meteorologist at the Bureau of Meteorology, says from Monday next week in particular Australians will begin to feel the weather heating up.

The mercury is set to rise across Australia in the coming week, as temperatures in parts of the country, including Sydney's west (Bondi Beach pictured), could reach a scorching 40 degrees

The mercury is set to rise across Australia in the coming week, as temperatures in parts of the country, including Sydney's west, could reach a scorching 40 degrees

Capital cities across the country will be blasted by a first heatwave on Friday

Some areas in Sydney's west could face temperatures into the 40s next week
'It will be very hot across the south east of the country beginning of next week,' Mr Burke told Daily Mail Australia.
'But while some places are going to get the mercury up higher, coastal cities moderated by seabreeze.'
Sydney will see highs of 32 degrees, remaining mostly overcast over the weekend until Tuesday.

Some areas in Sydney's west could also face temperatures into the 40s according to Bureau of Meteorology forecaster Sarah Chadwick.

'That front will move through southern parts of NSW tomorrow (Friday) and eastern and north eastern parts on Saturday,' the Courier Mail reports.

'That will see hot north westerly winds moving through NSW and the Sydney area so that's responsible for hot temperatures in western Sydney.'

The more summer suited weather is thanks to dry air traveling east from Australia's red centre and teaming up with a high pressure system

The more summer suited weather is thanks to dry air traveling east from Australia's red centre and teaming up with a high pressure system

Melbourne residents will be flocking to Brighton Beach Bathing houses (pictured) as the city sees its hottest day in eight months on Thursday

Melbourne residents will be flocking to Brighton Beach Bathing houses (pictured) as the city sees its hottest day in eight months on Thursday
While it's warmer for parts of Sydney, it will be mostly cloudy over the coming weekend

While it's warmer for parts of Sydney, it will be mostly cloudy over the coming weekend

Melbourne has already seen its hottest day in eight months as temperatures reached a toasty 30 degrees on Thursday.
But while Victoria's capital city is expected to have an early taste of summer with rising temperatures, expected 'patchy' rainfall is expected to put a damper on any outdoor activities.

Mildura, a regional city in north-west Victoria, is expecting temperatures to reach a sweltering 41 degrees on Monday.
Brisbane is tipped to hit 29 on Saturday, with the rest of the upcoming week expected to be in the high-twenties.
Between November and January, temperatures are expected to be warmer than average across the country...
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Good. I'm sick of the cold. Wink
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If only people can say that it got cold this year.
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lee wrote on Nov 20th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Good. I'm sick of the cold. Wink


Diagnosis; cabin fever.
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lee wrote on Nov 20th, 2016 at 1:08pm:
Good. I'm sick of the cold. Wink


Yes - it's been very cold except for the last few days in Melbourne.

Tomorrow we have a 38 degree scorcher but then it will go back to
below 20 degrees for every day of next week:

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml


Only last week I was here at night with 2 jumpers on & a beany.
I even put the gas ducted heating on one night for a few hours.

Tomorrow it will be the aircon.
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40 degrees forecast for Rockhampton tomorrow. Showers on Friday. Heavier rain Saturday. Thunderstorms from Sunday to Tuesday. If only the rain was heavy.
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I put the gas ducted heating on for 2 hours tonight - it was so cold in Melbourne -
it must be this new Ice Age.
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Bobby. wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:01pm:
I put the gas ducted heating on for 2 hours tonight - it was so cold in Melbourne -
it must be this new Ice Age.


It's hard to fathom that Melbourne is cold when the other end of the same side of Australia is experiencing a mini heat wave. I current have an air conditioner turned on to cool my stuffy house. As it is, leaving all the windows (with security screens) open is not enough to keep the house cool. We were experiencing 10 degree minimums 4 months ago, and got our first warm spell in late September. Thought the country was over winter.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 10:46pm:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 19th, 2016 at 6:24pm:
Melbourne:
31 tomorrow & 38 degrees on Monday.

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml

Lucky I have a good aircon.


For much of tomorrow, I work indoors in airconditioning. But even 38 degrees does not sound too bad to be running about during the day.

Mate a good bloody forklift with brickproof glass is heaven with aircon!

Well, ye olde urine goes a bit brown but that's what smoko's for innit?

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UnSubRocky wrote on Nov 24th, 2016 at 12:35am:
Bobby. wrote on Nov 23rd, 2016 at 11:01pm:
I put the gas ducted heating on for 2 hours tonight - it was so cold in Melbourne -
it must be this new Ice Age.


It's hard to fathom that Melbourne is cold when the other end of the same side of Australia is experiencing a mini heat wave. I current have an air conditioner turned on to cool my stuffy house. As it is, leaving all the windows (with security screens) open is not enough to keep the house cool. We were experiencing 10 degree minimums 4 months ago, and got our first warm spell in late September. Thought the country was over winter.

Security screens make a big difference! Open the flywire and bonza!!Wet towel, cool breeze going: laughing... for, um, atleast an hour or so lololololol  Shocked
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The wet towel would be dry within half an hour around here.
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It was a real dry heat today. I looked at my electronic thermometre that read 34 degrees. Despite it being 36 according to the bureau at that time online. Air conditioner went on as soon as I got home. The house was stuffy even at 7pm. All windows open. Bedroom door to the south-west of my home was blown closed. Searched town for a decent portable air conditioner that did not cost much. I'm too spoilt for my own good.
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Reply #196 - Nov 24th, 2016 at 9:21pm
 
It was a real dry heat today. I looked at my electronic thermometre that read 34 degrees. Despite it being 36 according to the bureau at that time online. Air conditioner went on as soon as I got home. The house was stuffy even at 7pm. All windows open. Bedroom door to the south-west of my home was blown closed. Searched town for a decent portable air conditioner that did not cost much. I'm too spoilt for my own good.
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Sounds like you should have grabbed a beer, the laptop and sat outside. 34 is not very hot if it's a dry heat as anyone form Perth will tell you. 34 here when it's humid is a sweatshop.
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Denizen Bobby turns the heating on when the temperature drops below 30oC.
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The BOM is saying its hot; Maryborough hit 39oC, 10 above average.:

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Parts of Queensland have recorded their hottest temperatures for this time of year - and many more scorchers are on the way in the Sunshine State.

Bundaberg on Thursday reached 37 degrees, which is nine above average, while Maryborough hit 39C, 10 above average.

Weather bureau forecaster Rick Threlfall said that was the hottest November day on record for Maryborough.

"And those records go back to the early 1900s, so it's a pretty significant one there," Mr Threlfall said.

In perhaps a case of bad timing, Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk visited Maryborough on Thursday, although the heat seemingly didn't stop her getting out and meeting locals.

Brisbane topped out at 34.1C, not record breaking but still six degrees above average.

The early heatwave came as the Bureau of Meteorology released its Climate and Water Outlook for December to February, predicting warmer and drier than average conditions across Queensland for summer.

"The odds are that it will be, particularly in the southeast of the state, warmer than average through the course of the summer," Mr Threlfall said.

He said while the region will be in a weak La Nina system for most of the summer, which usually brings rain, the region is expected to stay dry, which will drive up temperatures.

"If we're in really wet conditions like in 2011, 2012, a lot of cloud and rain - round temperatures are really depressed.

"But if we've got clear skies and sunshine you get very hot conditions through January and February."

The outlook for a hot, dry summer follows a wetter-than-average spring, with parts of western Queensland recording their highest September rainfall on record.
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Sounds like you should have grabbed a beer, the laptop and sat outside. 34 is not very hot if it's a dry heat as anyone form Perth will tell you. 34 here when it's humid is a sweatshop.


I was saying that it was hotter than the electronic thermometre was suggesting. I have this sensor for my thermometre that I put under the house away from the sunlight. Problem being that I kept the sensor near the hot water system (about 2 metres away) during the winter. I was getting 12 to 15 degree minimum temperatures when the weather was about 5 to 10 degrees. I sorted that by putting the sensor another 5 metres on the other side of the downstairs. But now I have lower than reported readings compared to the BOM website. Figure the sensor is either dodgy, or needs a battery change.
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The Arctic and Antarctic are experiencing unusually warm temperatures and ice formation is at lowest ever for this time of year.

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Imagine the shock and horror of a few hot days  just before summer!

funny how cool temperatures are 'just weather, not climate', but a few hot days are  'proof' of global warming.
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Imagine the shock and horror of a few hot days  just before summer!

funny how cool temperatures are 'just weather, not climate', but a few hot days are  'proof' of global warming.


So true for the FREAKS! Wink
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Imagine the shock and horror of a few hot days  just before summer!

funny how cool temperatures are 'just weather, not climate', but a few hot days are  'proof' of global warming.




True, but a lot of the deniers use the same line of argument. I've heard Alan Jones, say it was under 5 degrees in Sydney mornings in November therefore climate change is a crock.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 12:47pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 11:40am:
Imagine the shock and horror of a few hot days  just before summer!

funny how cool temperatures are 'just weather, not climate', but a few hot days are  'proof' of global warming.




True, but a lot of the deniers use the same line of argument. I've heard Alan Jones, say it was under 5 degrees in Sydney mornings in November therefore climate change is a crock.


And they are just as stupid. But if the hysterics use this ploy, we cant then condemn deniers who do the same.
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Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 12:47pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 11:40am:
Imagine the shock and horror of a few hot days  just before summer!

funny how cool temperatures are 'just weather, not climate', but a few hot days are  'proof' of global warming.




True, but a lot of the deniers use the same line of argument. I've heard Alan Jones, say it was under 5 degrees in Sydney mornings in November therefore climate change is a crock.


Then again, the chicken littles probably would use that as evidence that climate change is real.
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35 in Perth at the moment.

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Suck it up:

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/d24241060098393b86f40dca9203bf76

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THE heatwave affecting much of Queensland and NSW is hanging around but forecasters have said a series of weather fronts will bring a “seesaw” of unstable and sticky conditions with sunshine punctuated by thunderstorms.
Western suburbs of both Brisbane and Sydney could get in to the mid to high 30s as the week progresses.

Further south, Victoria and Tasmania are again likely to be spared the above average temperatures and stifling humidity but Perth could break the 30C barrier towards the end of the week.

Birdsville, in south west Queensland, reached 46C on the weekend. Even with moderating sea breezes, temperatures in Brisbane were still stuck stubbornly above average.

Brisbane City Council was criticised on Sunday, reported the Courier Mail, after it sent 133,000 residents, who had signed up to an early weather warning service, information about a storm when most of the cells had already passed through and a full three hours following the Bureau of Meteorology releasing 16 severe weather warnings.

The forecast for Monday afternoon shows the heatwave lingering over southern Queensland and northern NSW. Picture: Bureau of Meteorology.

The bureau has said the heatwave conditions are set to remain at least until Thursday.
“There’s a really stagnant hot air mess remaining over Queensland until the end of the week,” forecaster Annabelle Ford told news.com.au.

A “severe” heatwave could scrape the south east coast with warnings for vulnerable people, including the young, elderly and mums-to-be, to stay hydrated and out of the heat.

Brisbane will be sunny with highs bobbing around 31C all week, while Ipswich will reach 35C on Monday and as high as 37C on Wednesday.
Further inland an “extreme” heatwave is predicted which could compromise infrastructure and adversely affect even the healthy.
Longreach and Roma are unlikely to fall below 40C until at least Thursday with both reaching 42C on Tuesday.
But some respite is on the horizon.
Beachgoers cool down at Surfers Paradise on the Gold Coast. Picture: AAP
Beachgoers cool down at Surfers Paradise on the Gold Coast. Picture: AAPSource:AAP
“A southerly change is coming through and that will reach south east Queensland on Friday and after that it will be cooler,” Ms Ford said.
The change could be heralded by a series of storms caused by warm and moist air. “It will be a bit more unstable in the latter part of the week,” she said.
That instability is already apparent in NSW with rains passing through Sydney this morning and possible storms predicted on Monday afternoon.
While concentrated on Queensland, the severe heatwave still covers much of northern NSW and a finger of above average hot conditions is stretching as far south as the Murray.
Sydney is expected to reach at least 30C on Monday, well above the seasonal average for December of 25C. Penrith, in the city’s west, will get to at least 34C twice this week including on Monday.
The heatwave is lingering on Australia’s east coast. Picture: Bureau of Meteorology
The heatwave is lingering on Australia’s east coast. Picture: Bureau of MeteorologySource:Supplied
Moree, in the state’s north, will be stuck around 40C on Monday and Tuesday.
“A broad trough of low pressure affecting the region is feeding off moist air coming off the Coral Sea generating unstable conditions across much of NSW,” bureau forecaster Zach Porter told news.com.au.

Sporadic showers are likely until Wednesday with nightly highs of around 20C meaning it’s a fans on, covers off kind of week. Along the costal strip, high humidity levels are already making it sticky.

A series of weather fronts passing through the state will see temperatures fall back to average before rocketing up again, he said.

Humidity is particularly high in coastal read of NSW. Picture: Bureau of Meteorology.

“A southerly change will be coming to the (South Coast of NSW) this afternoon, reaching Sydney this evening and further north on Tuesday but it looks like it might weaken Tuesday evening,” Mr Porter said.

“Following that, another southerly on Wednesday will likely reach all the way up the coast.”

The consecutive systems will bring highs down to 27C on Tuesday and 24C on Wednesday.

But the cooling southerlies will then be blasted out of the way by a wind change midweek sucking the hot air from Central Australia to the east coast taking the mercury up to 30C on Thursday.

“It’s a seesaw of temperatures this time of year,” said Mr Porter.

“Winds from the west will bring more heat but that will be ahead of a cold change that will bring temperatures down to average on the weekend.”

Melbourne will see a high of 21C on Monday, rising to 25C on Wednesday with settled conditions. Perth will be sunny and 24C reaching 31C on Thursday.

Adelaide will hover around 25C before brushing 30C midweek.
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Well that settles it. If it's hot in Queensland and NSW it must be global.
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longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 2:34pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 12:47pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 11:40am:
Imagine the shock and horror of a few hot days  just before summer!

funny how cool temperatures are 'just weather, not climate', but a few hot days are  'proof' of global warming.




True, but a lot of the deniers use the same line of argument. I've heard Alan Jones, say it was under 5 degrees in Sydney mornings in November therefore climate change is a crock.


And they are just as stupid. But if the hysterics use this ploy, we cant then condemn deniers who do the same.

So why don't we all just sit back and drink our subsidised politicians wine and watch our kids kidskids multi-year sea ice in the Arctic melt.

Good friggin' idea: let's poison the well so we all die!

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longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 2:34pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 12:47pm:
longweekend58 wrote on Nov 25th, 2016 at 11:40am:
Imagine the shock and horror of a few hot days  just before summer!

funny how cool temperatures are 'just weather, not climate', but a few hot days are  'proof' of global warming.




True, but a lot of the deniers use the same line of argument. I've heard Alan Jones, say it was under 5 degrees in Sydney mornings in November therefore climate change is a crock.


And they are just as stupid. But if the hysterics use this ploy, we cant then condemn deniers who do the same.

So why don't we all just sit back and drink our subsidised politicians wine and watch out kids kid skids multi-year sea ice in the Arctic melt.

Good friggin' idea: let's poison the well so we all die!

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Reply #212 - Dec 6th, 2016 at 4:23am
 
Recovered from my couple hours worth of being in the sun during my 7-hour shift yesterday. Had to sleep all day today. Now I'm up near 5 in the morning because of some stupid desire to read. Was near 40 degrees on Sunday.
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Wowee, 44.6 in central Queensland. This will cause some heated comments from AGW denier denizen lee and its ilk.

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Queensland is preparing for its fifth straight day of sweltering conditions, however relief is in sight.

Monday saw a state-wide high of 44.6C at Windorah, with Dirrinbandi hitting 44C

Brisbane and coastal areas of the southeast were only around 30C due to the cooling effect of sea breezes.

Weather bureau forecaster Dean Narramore said Tuesday would see similar conditions.

"Another day of widespread 40s across the inland, near the coast the sea breezes will keep the coast only about a degree above average but widespread six to eight degrees above average across much of the inland," he said.

However that should be the last day of higher temperatures for some areas.

"Wednesday we start cooling down in places like Birdsville, although in this case 'cooling down' means dropping to the low 30s," Mr Narramore said.

"Then Thursday we start to really see it cooling down through southern and southeast Queensland with the 40s contracting up to northwest Queensland."
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Reply #214 - Dec 7th, 2016 at 10:12am
 
Can the pommies take the heat?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/11/30/uk-media-is-concerned-for-reality-tv...

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Won't someone think of the celebrities!

The UK's "I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!" are filming in Australia
Australian weather has hit headlines across the UK as headlines express fears for the contestants of "I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!"

The UK Media is reporting producers of the show are holding 'crisis' talks as temperatures are set to rise above 40 degrees celsius in Queensland.

The Mirror headline reads "I'm A Celebrity holds crisis talks as 'fatal' heatwave set to sweep Australia and older stars at risk," reporting particular concern for the older celebrities such as 69-year-old Larry Lamb.

"Producers are on extra high alert because of the heat wave," a source told the Mirror. ""They are making sure there is plenty of water and ways to keep the camp-mates cool."

The Sun is reporting on the 'fatal' heatwave set to sweep Australia, with the headline "This Weather is Dangerous and Can Kill".

"Contestants are being told to take extra care to make sure they are drinking enough water and not doing anything too active," a source told the tabloid newspaper. "All the contestants need to keep hydrated and be reapplying sun cream regularly. This weather is dangerous and can kill. Even Aussies won't be out in the midday sun.''

Eight contestants are left on the show which is being filmed at Springbrook National Park. The line-up aren't Aussie household names, but include "Gogglebox" star Scarlett Moffatt, stand up comic Joel Commett and Olympic hockey player Sam Quek.

The Bureau of Meteorology has predicated a heatwave that is likely to be unpleasant not only for the UK Celebs. It's going to be scortching hot in large parts of New South Wales and southern Queensland.

However -- despite UK reports that the weather will be "fatal" -- with adequate preparation you can stay safe during the heat wave. Queensland Health advises staying hydrated, using sun protection and staying in-doors.
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Wowee, 44.6 in central Queensland. This will cause some heated comments from AGW denier denizen lee and its ilk.



Nope. I don't see any claims of a record. Must be weather.
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lee wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 10:28am:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 12:47am:
Wowee, 44.6 in central Queensland. This will cause some heated comments from AGW denier denizen lee and its ilk.


Nope. I don't see any claims of a record. Must be weather.


Please take a temperature measurement under denizen lee's collar.
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lee wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 10:28am:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 7th, 2016 at 12:47am:
Wowee, 44.6 in central Queensland. This will cause some heated comments from AGW denier denizen lee and its ilk.



Nope. I don't see any claims of a record. Must be weather.

Climate is weather: it's a change in the weather!

Weather changes things physically but chemical changes cause permanent weather changes, potentially.

Chemical change is what Climate Change is about: permanent change to the weather.

Hey, let's all make money selling crap houses to immigrants that need to escape the desert: go uncle bobs everywhere... I'm a friggin boatbuilder etc etc etc etc etc ... yeh, we all know how it works buddy!


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My kid live sin Julie bishops electorate: he gets the spare rental to smoke crack with his panda eyed sister as long as he votes charlatan for life...

etc etc etc... go western democracies that outsource everything for expediently irrational reason!

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Can the pommies take the heat?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com.au/2016/11/30/uk-media-is-concerned-for-reality-tv...

[quote]The UK Media Freaks Out Over Reality TV Stars Facing "Fatal" Aussie Weather
Won't someone think of the celebrities!

The UK's "I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!" are filming in Australia
Australian weather has hit headlines across the UK as headlines express fears for the contestants of "I'm a Celebrity...Get Me Out of Here!"

The UK Media is reporting producers of the show are holding 'crisis' talks as temperatures are set to rise above 40 degrees celsius in Queensland.


How did Great Britain take over Iraq, again? Via proxy? A secret use of futuristic force fields that keep the heat out? Some kind of high-speed transportation that gets people into the shade quickly? Or did they tough it out back then?
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Very hazy today. Thought perhaps there might be fires burning in the region. I don't know if they helped shade the sun today, but it was not too bad. Tomorrow should bring about some wild storms and heavy rain for this town. I'm hopeful.
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Poms are toasty:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2352603/winter-heatwave-means-uk-will-stay-hotter-...

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UK HEAT ROASTS CANARIES

Winter heatwave means UK will stay hotter than Tenerife as temperatures soar 20 degrees in days

The unseasonable warm weather set to continue until the weekend

THE temperature soared to 17C (62.6F) yesterday and sparked a mini heatwave warmer than Tenerife.

Parts of Scotland and Wales had the highest temperature while it was 15C in the Canaries.

London in mild weather

The UK has been basking in a mini winter heatwave

The warm spell will last for another three days before more normal ­winter temperatures arrive on Sunday.

London and Manchester reached 15C yesterday.

And it was 15.4C in Bude, Cornwall, and 15.6C in Keswick, Cumbria.
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Quadruple whammy coming to four cities.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/sydney-weather-rare-heatwave-a-chance-...

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Sydney – and much of southern Australia  – is likely to get its biggest blast of heat since last summer with the possibility that four major cities will top 33 degrees on the same day for the first time in December since 1965, according to Weatherzone.

The warmth will build steadily from the west, with Perth bracing for a couple of days of 37 degrees from Friday.

Depending on the timing of a cool change - and Sydney's fickle sea-breezes - each of Adelaide, Melbourne, Canberra and Sydney could all reach 33 degrees next Tuesday.

"It's rare to have all of those cities reaching those kind of thresholds all at the same time," Rob Sharpe, a meteorologist at Weatherzone, said. The last time each of the four centres hit that mark on the same day was in February 2011.

Cronulla rock pool will get busier next week as the mercury climbs.

The burst of warmth comes after large parts of inland NSW and Queensland were scorched in a persistent heatwave last week.

​"The intensity of the hottest air is fairly similar [to that heatwave]," Mr Sharpe said. "It's just across a larger area", bringing consecutive days of warm conditions to much of southern Australia.
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It's the opposite of extremely cold:

...

http://www.9news.com.au/wild-weather/2016/12/13/02/21/early-summer-scorcher-to-h...

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Sydney is facing its hottest back-to-back days in 10 years. (AAP)
Sydney is facing its hottest back-to-back days in 10 years. (AAP)
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An early-summer scorcher expected to be the most severe in years is due to sweep New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and the ACT from today.

Weatherzone forecasts that Adelaide, Melbourne, Canberra and Sydney could all reach 33C or higher today, in the most widespread heat to affect the nation this early in the season in 51 years.

Sydney is facing its hottest back-to-back days in 10 years, with the mercury forecast to hit 36C in the CBD and 39C in the west today, before climbing to 39C and 38C respectively tomorrow.

If those forecasts are correct, Sydney will record its hottest consecutive days since October 2006, when temperatures reached 36.7C and 36.2C, according to the Bureau of Meteorology (BoM).

Crowds at Bondi during hot weather. (AAP file image)
Crowds at Bondi during hot weather. (AAP file image)
A new record could also be set tonight for the warmest December night in Sydney since 1972, with temperatures not expected to fall below 25C.

"We are going to have generally hot and dry north westerly winds associated with these warm temperatures," BoM  forecaster Sarah Chadwick said.

Winds will also increase the risk of bushfires, with warnings and total fire bans already declared across much of NSW.

BoM's heatwave map for December 12 to December 14. (BoM)
BoM's heatwave map for December 12 to December 14. (BoM)
The pool of heat first hit Perth at the weekend and is now spreading across southern Australia towards the east coast, Weatherzone said.

In Adelaide, temperatures soared to 28C by 9am yesterday, after climbing by 11 degrees in three hours, Weatherzone said. The city is expected to swelter in the mid-thirties today.

Melbourne is expected to continue to sweat in low-to-mid-thirties temperatures today, and remain above 20C tonight – which could be the city's warmest night since last summer.

Canberra is also expected to experience temperatures in the low-thirties today, with a similar warm night. If the mercury stays about 20C tonight, it will be the city's warmest December minimum in a decade.

With use of air conditioning expected to soar, energy providers have reassured customers they are prepared for the demand.

"On days like today, electricity consumption can increase by 50 percent when temperatures approach 40 degrees with the use of air conditioners," Endeavour Energy spokesman Peter Payne said.

The Red Cross has urged everyone to keep an eye on their neighbours, with children and the elderly among those most at risk.

"Remember to check on your neighbours because older people, pregnant women, children, those with a disability and people taking medications are among those who are more at risk," a spokeswoman said.

A cool change is expected to affect Adelaide this afternoon, Melbourne tonight, Canberra tomorrow and Sydney tomorrow night, Weatherzone said.

Temperatures will likely drop by up to 15 degrees within 24 hours.

Hobart and Brisbane are expected to escape the worst of the heat, with possible temperatures of 28 degrees today.
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Reply #224 - Dec 13th, 2016 at 11:01am
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 10:59am:
It's the opposite of extremely cold:

http://www.9news.com.au/wild-weather/2016/12/13/02/21/early-summer-scorcher-to-h...

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Fifty-year weather record could be broken as early scorcher sweeps south-eastern Australia
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Sydney is facing its hottest back-to-back days in 10 years. (AAP)
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An early-summer scorcher expected to be the most severe in years is due to sweep New South Wales, Victoria, South Australia and the ACT from today.

Weatherzone forecasts that Adelaide, Melbourne, Canberra and Sydney could all reach 33C or higher today, in the most widespread heat to affect the nation this early in the season in 51 years.

Sydney is facing its hottest back-to-back days in 10 years, with the mercury forecast to hit 36C in the CBD and 39C in the west today, before climbing to 39C and 38C respectively tomorrow.

If those forecasts are correct, Sydney will record its hottest consecutive days since October 2006, when temperatures reached 36.7C and 36.2C, according to the Bureau of Meteorology (BoM).

Crowds at Bondi during hot weather. (AAP file image)
Crowds at Bondi during hot weather. (AAP file image)
A new record could also be set tonight for the warmest December night in Sydney since 1972, with temperatures not expected to fall below 25C.

"We are going to have generally hot and dry north westerly winds associated with these warm temperatures," BoM  forecaster Sarah Chadwick said.

Winds will also increase the risk of bushfires, with warnings and total fire bans already declared across much of NSW.

BoM's heatwave map for December 12 to December 14. (BoM)
BoM's heatwave map for December 12 to December 14. (BoM)
The pool of heat first hit Perth at the weekend and is now spreading across southern Australia towards the east coast, Weatherzone said.

In Adelaide, temperatures soared to 28C by 9am yesterday, after climbing by 11 degrees in three hours, Weatherzone said. The city is expected to swelter in the mid-thirties today.

Melbourne is expected to continue to sweat in low-to-mid-thirties temperatures today, and remain above 20C tonight – which could be the city's warmest night since last summer.

Canberra is also expected to experience temperatures in the low-thirties today, with a similar warm night. If the mercury stays about 20C tonight, it will be the city's warmest December minimum in a decade.

With use of air conditioning expected to soar, energy providers have reassured customers they are prepared for the demand.

"On days like today, electricity consumption can increase by 50 percent when temperatures approach 40 degrees with the use of air conditioners," Endeavour Energy spokesman Peter Payne said.

The Red Cross has urged everyone to keep an eye on their neighbours, with children and the elderly among those most at risk.

"Remember to check on your neighbours because older people, pregnant women, children, those with a disability and people taking medications are among those who are more at risk," a spokeswoman said.

A cool change is expected to affect Adelaide this afternoon, Melbourne tonight, Canberra tomorrow and Sydney tomorrow night, Weatherzone said.

Temperatures will likely drop by up to 15 degrees within 24 hours.

Hobart and Brisbane are expected to escape the worst of the heat, with possible temperatures of 28 degrees today.


Is that weather or climate change?
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Gordon wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 11:01am:
Is that weather or climate change?


Thanks for exemplifying confusion; one of the dangers of heat stroke.
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What happened to the rest of WA? Cold & Wet. Didn't fit the meme.
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What happened to the rest of WA? Cold & Wet. Didn't fit the meme.

...when?
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What happened to the rest of WA? Cold & Wet. Didn't fit the meme.


Nocturnal urinary incontinence is not a symptom of AGW.
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TheFunPolice wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 3:38pm:
lee wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 11:13am:
What happened to the rest of WA? Cold & Wet. Didn't fit the meme.

...when?


22mm to 9 am yesterday. 37mm to 9 am today.
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lee wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 4:16pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 3:38pm:
lee wrote on Dec 13th, 2016 at 11:13am:
What happened to the rest of WA? Cold & Wet. Didn't fit the meme.

...when?


22mm to 9 am yesterday. 37mm to 9 am today.

Lol: where?
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Is that not typical for most Westralians? Mostly stuck in the corner near the southern most point. Getting the rain and cool.
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Nice & cool this morning in Melbourne -  16 degrees -
after 2 hot days.
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TheFunPolice wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 2:21am:



Wheatbelt.

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is that sweat rolling down denizen lees cheeks or is he just emotional?

Hottest ever December night in Sydney.

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/79d2cdb474d1dbed38779ca29df39945?width=650

http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/sydney-heatwave-hottest-night-in-a...

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SYDNEY sweltered through its hottest December night on record as the mercury refused to budge to acceptable levels.
Fans and airconditioners copped a workout and hundreds hit the beach last night as people desperately tried to keep cool.
The Bureau of Meteorology confirmed the overnight temperature dipped to 27.1C.

It was the highest minimum on record. The previous record was set on Christmas Day 1858, when it dropped to 26.3C.
The temperature also smashed all but one previous record, making it the second-warmest Sydney evening in recorded history.

BoM forecaster Jordan Notara told AAP they were expecting last night to break the record of 26.3C..
At 6am this morning the temperature at Sydney Harbour was already 29C and at midnight the temperature was still a warm 27C at Observatory Hill.

The mercury hit 37C yesterday with an expected high of 38C today.
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lee wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
Wheatbelt.


A rudimentary trouser accessory worn by the people of WA.
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Get ready for a Christmas swelter. Fire bans could prevent barbecues:

http://www.news.com.au/national/south-australia/its-too-late-to-get-fireban-perm...

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GET ready to swelter — a top of 40C is now forecast for Christmas Day in Adelaide amid a predictions of a heatwave for the state over the festive period.

The Bureau of Meterology is forecasting five days over 35C, including 40C on Christmas Day and Boxing Day.

There’s a chance of a shower on Boxing Day and December 27 — but that day still carries a forecast of 37C.

The Bureau also says heatwave conditions are looming across the south east of Australia.

A heatwave occurs when three or more days of high maximum and minimum temperatures hit that are unusual for that location.
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In the USA record highs are vastly outnumbering record lows.

"... For the year-to-date, record highs have outpaced record lows by 6-to-1. Each season has seen more record highs than record lows this year. For ratios, we have rounded to the nearest tenth..."

http://www.climatecentral.org/gallery/graphics/record-heat-beating-record-cold

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Despite the current cold snap, 2016 is still on pace to be the second warmest year on record in the U.S. This temperature imbalance is illustrated in the ratio of record highs to record lows. In a stable climate, the long-term ratio should be in balance, or around 1-to-1, but that has not been the case for a long time.

In 2016, the number of record highs has dwarfed the number of record lows. This was most remarkable in November, when there were 48 record highs for every record low. Of all the daily temperature records set or tied last month, 98 percent of them were record highs.

For the year-to-date, record highs have outpaced record lows by 6-to-1. Each season has seen more record highs than record lows this year. For ratios, we have rounded to the nearest tenth.

Winter (includes Dec 2015): 11.7 to 1 (92 percent of records set were record highs)
Spring: 4.2 to 1 (81 percent of records set were record highs)
Summer: 4.0 to 1 (80 percent of records set were record highs)
Fall: 15.2 to 1 (94 percent of records set were record highs)
In the long term, the ratio of record highs to record lows has increased every decade since the 1970s, the last decade the record lows outnumbered record highs. We're more than halfway through the 2010s, and record highs are outpacing lows more than 2-to-1.

As warming continues from the increasing amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, that ratio will likely continue to rise. According to recent research, a 3°C (5.4°F) increase in the global temperature could increase that ratio to 7-to-1, or perhaps as much as 23-to-1. With no change in the rate of greenhouse gas emissions, we could warm that much in just 50 years.  That much warming will make it unlikely that our children and grandchildren will experience what we think of as extreme cold today. Conversely, future generations will endure a level of summer heat more intense than any we’re currently used to.
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Will Booby read this and finally realise Dumanurespreader has been lying to him?

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FTTN working well and fast and even doing so in the heat.

Epic fail, jovial_bedwetter
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For a good catholic boy you sure lie a lot!
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Looks like a terrible heatwave will hit Melbourne for Xmas:

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml


over 30 degrees for 5 days in a row -

35 for Xmas day & Boxing day!
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Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2016 at 6:11pm:
Looks like a terrible heatwave will hit Melbourne for Xmas:

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml


over 30 degrees for 5 days in a row -

35 for Xmas day & Boxing day!


And fire bans. No barbecues for Christmas.
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Unforgiven wrote on Dec 21st, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2016 at 6:11pm:
Looks like a terrible heatwave will hit Melbourne for Xmas:

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml


over 30 degrees for 5 days in a row -

35 for Xmas day & Boxing day!


And fire bans. No barbecues for Christmas.




damn - last Xmas day was too hot as well.
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Don’t know whether to laugh or cry:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-12/milroy-observatory-at-coonabarabran-nbn-in...

That line in there, that the observatory could pay for a faster line is a lie: all FoD applications cost a fortune to make and are always priced so high only 2 have been installed since the 2013 election.

FTTN, slow, subject to frequent dropouts.
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By contrast, a project using a REAL network:

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The SKA has been called the ultimate Big Data project – its antennas producing a data stream several times greater than today’s entire global internet traffic. So how do you get that volume of information all the way from Australia’s remote SKA site to the supercomputers needed to process it?

A team led by the Cisco Internet of Everything Innovation Centre in Western Australia recently took a giant step towards that goal by establishing a 100GB/s data link between the Murchison Radio-astronomy Observatory, future site of the SKA-Low telescope, and Curtin University in Perth, a distance of some 800 kilometres through some of the most remote places on earth. Impressively the team managed this feat with no data loss.


100gbps, holy moly!
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Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 21st, 2016 at 6:31pm:
By contrast, a project using a REAL network:

Quote:
http://www.ska.gov.au/updates/Pages/2016-07-Project-Director%27s-Update.aspx
The SKA has been called the ultimate Big Data project – its antennas producing a data stream several times greater than today’s entire global internet traffic. So how do you get that volume of information all the way from Australia’s remote SKA site to the supercomputers needed to process it?

A team led by the Cisco Internet of Everything Innovation Centre in Western Australia recently took a giant step towards that goal by establishing a 100GB/s data link between the Murchison Radio-astronomy Observatory, future site of the SKA-Low telescope, and Curtin University in Perth, a distance of some 800 kilometres through some of the most remote places on earth. Impressively the team managed this feat with no data loss.


100gbps, holy moly!



"How would you cool all the implied computing power?", is what I want to know!
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lee wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 12:15pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Dec 14th, 2016 at 2:21am:



Wheatbelt.


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The arctic is at 0oC which is about 22 oC above its average for this time of year.

...

http://mashable.com/2016/12/22/north-pole-hits-melting-point/#ZOgua5vHfaqd

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Today is an extremely unusual December day at the North Pole, with temperatures getting very close to the melting point of 32 degrees Fahrenheit, or 0 degrees Celsius.

For perspective, the temperature at the North Pole is about 40 degrees Fahrenheit above average for the date.

Data from a buoy located about 80 miles south of the dark, windswept pole hit 32 degrees on Thursday morning as storm systems dragged unusually mild air into the high Arctic. Aiding the warm spell is the fact that these winds passed over Arctic waters that would normally be covered with sea ice but are open ocean this year after a severe sea ice melt season and record-slow winter freeze-up.

The bizarre Arctic heat wave, which will be brief, lasting only two days, is similar to another warmup that occurred in December 2015, and there is scientific evidence showing that these extreme events are becoming more frequent and extreme in the Arctic as sea ice melts and air temperatures increase.

However, the mean temperatures in the Arctic this fall into early winter, including the spike this week, have no precedent in the records kept since 1958 by the Danish Meteorological Institute. Though sharp oscillations in temperature have happened throughout the record, the mean temperatures are much higher this year. It's as if the Arctic has shifted into a new, higher gear of climate change.

The roots of this week's event can be traced to multiple storm systems curling northwest out of the Atlantic side of the Arctic, passing to the northeast of Greenland. These cyclones set up a southeasterly airflow that moved moist and relatively mild (mild for the Arctic anyway) air across the Barents Sea.

That's important since this region has unusually low amounts of sea ice. This makes that area an ideal source region, or heat reservoir, for relatively warm air to be picked up and transported closer to the pole.

In the summer and fall, low sea ice cover allows ocean waters to absorb heat from the sun, which is then slowly released into the air in the fall and early winter. Ice-covered areas stay cooler since sea ice reflects most incoming solar radiation.

This warmup is taking place amid the Arctic's warmest year since records began in 1900, according to an international scientific assessment released on Dec. 13. A persistent pattern of anomalously warm conditions across the central Arctic, including the North Pole, has set up this fall and winter, partly in response to the second-lowest sea ice minimum reached in September.

The warm air intrusion into the Arctic has actually eaten away at some of the fledgling sea ice cover, causing about 57,000 square miles of ice to be lost between Dec. 21 and Dec. 22, according to preliminary data from the National Snow and Ice Data Center. While that figure is likely to change somewhat as scientists double check it during quality control, it amounts to the size of Iowa. This is significant, since the ice should be growing right now.

An analysis published Wednesday by scientists affiliated with the research and journalism group Climate Central found that the record warm November and December in the Arctic would have been "extremely unlikely" in a world without human-caused global warming.

A separate study, published this year in the Journal of Climate this year, found that there is an increase in the number of these events, known as "moist intrusions," crossing 70 degrees north Latitude in December and January. The research found that the number of these events during December and January has nearly doubled since 1990, but it did not explain why this is the case.

These events are not without significant consequences, since when they affect land they can cause rain to fall on top of snow and ice cover, forming a crust that prevents animals like reindeer from accessing their food supplies below.

One rain on snow event, associated with a sudden warming in the Arctic, killed about 61,000 reindeer on the Yamal Peninsula in 2013, demonstrating the ecological consequences of such freak heat episodes.
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A warm Arctic is a sure sign a Little Ice Age is starting bwahahahahahahahahaha

No, it is a Sign that the End Times are nearly here bwahahahahahahaha

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Reply #250 - Dec 24th, 2016 at 2:13pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 24th, 2016 at 12:40pm:
The arctic is at 0oC which is about 22 oC above its average for this time of year.

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But it is still below freezing. Wink
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It's hot in Melbourne today.
it's 34 outside of my place  -
only 20 degrees inside with the aircon on.


It's gunna be 35 tomorrow.



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Reply #252 - Dec 24th, 2016 at 2:29pm
 
lee wrote on Dec 24th, 2016 at 2:13pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 24th, 2016 at 12:40pm:
The arctic is at 0oC which is about 22 oC above its average for this time of year.

...


But it is still below freezing. Wink


No darling! It hit 273.15oK.
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Bobby. wrote on Dec 24th, 2016 at 2:16pm:
It's hot in Melbourne today.
it's 34 outside of my place  -
only 20 degrees inside with the aircon on.

It's gunna be 35 tomorrow.


You are going to melt down Bobby. You can't take the heat.
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Reply #254 - Dec 24th, 2016 at 2:34pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 24th, 2016 at 2:31pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 24th, 2016 at 2:16pm:
It's hot in Melbourne today.
it's 34 outside of my place  -
only 20 degrees inside with the aircon on.

It's gunna be 35 tomorrow.


You are going to melt down Bobby. You can't take the heat.



Just a rare 4 or 5 day heatwave -
no problem for the aircon -
& then we'll be back to cooler than usual temperatures.
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Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2016 at 6:17pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 21st, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2016 at 6:11pm:
Looks like a terrible heatwave will hit Melbourne for Xmas:

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml


over 30 degrees for 5 days in a row -

35 for Xmas day & Boxing day!


And fire bans. No barbecues for Christmas.




damn - last Xmas day was too hot as well.

Last Christmass Day was too hot for barbeques, Booby? But but but we are entering a LIA, it should be MUCH, RECORD cooler than last year!

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Reply #256 - Dec 24th, 2016 at 3:10pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 24th, 2016 at 2:29pm:
No darling! It hit 273.15oK.



That is freezing, but the graphic you posted is currently about 262Kelvin which is below 0C.
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So smacking what, Lees? What is the temperature there normally? A LOT lower you say?

Whether the temperature is at or just below freezing is rather irrelevant, not, in the light of those noteworthy higher temperatures. Can you explain them, Lees?
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Reply #258 - Dec 24th, 2016 at 3:20pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 24th, 2016 at 3:06pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2016 at 6:17pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 21st, 2016 at 6:16pm:
Bobby. wrote on Dec 21st, 2016 at 6:11pm:
Looks like a terrible heatwave will hit Melbourne for Xmas:

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml


over 30 degrees for 5 days in a row -

35 for Xmas day & Boxing day!


And fire bans. No barbecues for Christmas.




damn - last Xmas day was too hot as well.

Last Christmass Day was too hot for barbeques, sir Bobby? But but but we are entering a LIA, it should be MUCH, RECORD cooler than last year!

Grin



It will be back to 22 degrees by Friday - after this summer heatwave finishes.

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml
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Booby booby booby, two years in a row it was too blinking hot for BBQ, TWO years in a row!

OBVIOUSLY global warming is in a runaway stage!



See, this is how Dumanurespreader works, except I don’t believe there is runaway AGW just at the moment. I was cherrypicking 2 data points. At least *I* didn’t lie about them, UNLIKE Dumanurespreader.
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Reply #260 - Dec 24th, 2016 at 6:05pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 24th, 2016 at 3:16pm:
So smacking what, Lees? What is the temperature there normally? A LOT lower you say?

Whether the temperature is at or just below freezing is rather irrelevant, not, in the light of those noteworthy higher temperatures. Can you explain them, Lees?


So the temperature is supposed to be static? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Back when sailing ships were sailing the north east was it warmer or cooler? Do we even have the data?
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OK Lees, you have no answers {color me surprised}
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When its hot in Europe....................they scream global warming

When its cool in Europe...................They scream Ice Age

Australian global climate change alarmists are always 6 months out of kilter.

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Reply #263 - Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:10am
 
Adelaide lost it's cool; Melbourne broke a sweat:

http://www.echo.net.au/2016/12/adelaide-sets-records-christmas-heat/

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Adelaide has had its hottest Christmas Day for more than 71 years, becoming the hottest state capital in the country.

The temperature climbed to 40.7C at 3pm in the South Australian capital, the Bureau of Meteorology says, setting a record for the day.

‘The last time when we had about 40C on Christmas Day was in 1945 and the temperature back then was 40.1C, so we’ve broken that record,’ duty forecaster Kenneth Cheung told AAP.

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Reply #264 - Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:23am
 
Unforgiven wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:10am:
Adelaide has had its hottest Christmas Day for more than 71 years, becoming the hottest state capital in the country.

The temperature climbed to 40.7C at 3pm in the South Australian capital, the Bureau of Meteorology says, setting a record for the day.



Strange. Hottest in more than 71 years equals hottest evah.

And then the all time record is 1888.

"The highest Christmas Day temperature on record, 42.1C, was in 1888."

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/south-australia/adelaide-forecast-to-be-world...

Good ole BoM, redacting the temperature.
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lee wrote on Dec 24th, 2016 at 6:05pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 24th, 2016 at 3:16pm:
So smacking what, Lees? What is the temperature there normally? A LOT lower you say?

Whether the temperature is at or just below freezing is rather irrelevant, not, in the light of those noteworthy higher temperatures. Can you explain them, Lees?


So the temperature is supposed to be static? Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Back when sailing ships were sailing the north east was it warmer or cooler? Do we even have the data?

So you can’t explain the record warm Arctic temperatures. why didn’t you just say so, lees?
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So you can’t explain the record warm Arctic temperatures. why didn’t you just say so, lees?



Not heard of natural variation?
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Unforgiven wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:10am:
Adelaide lost it cool; Melbourne got sweaty:

http://www.echo.net.au/2016/12/adelaide-sets-records-christmas-heat/

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Adelaide has had its hottest Christmas Day for more than 71 years, becoming the hottest state capital in the country.

The temperature climbed to 40.7C at 3pm in the South Australian capital, the Bureau of Meteorology says, setting a record for the day.

‘The last time when we had about 40C on Christmas Day was in 1945 and the temperature back then was 40.1C, so we’ve broken that record,’ duty forecaster Kenneth Cheung told AAP.

Other southeastern states also saw the temperature Cheesy Grin climb into the high 30s, with Melbourne reaching 36C for its hottest Christmas since 1998.


But but but we are supposed to be entering a little ice age, how could it be so hot so early?

We had a great water fight on the front lawn yesterday, water balloons, water pistols, whole buckets of water got used to wet everyone down. The kids were ecstatic and even the adults enjoyed themselves immensely! Funny activity for a little ice age, eh?  Cheesy Grin
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lee wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:55am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:52am:
So you can’t explain the record warm Arctic temperatures. why didn’t you just say so, lees?



Not heard of natural variation?


Record warm.
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Reply #269 - Dec 26th, 2016 at 12:23pm
 
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:56am:
lee wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:55am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:52am:
So you can’t explain the record warm Arctic temperatures. why didn’t you just say so, lees?



Citation needed.

Not heard of natural variation?


Record warm.


Check out 1964

http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/meant80n.uk.php

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lee wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 12:23pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:56am:
lee wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:55am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:52am:
So you can’t explain the record warm Arctic temperatures. why didn’t you just say so, lees?



Citation needed.

Not heard of natural variation?


Record warm.


Record warm—outside normal variation.
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Reply #271 - Dec 28th, 2016 at 11:28am
 
Sydney is about to get scorched.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/weather/sydney-weather-severe-heatwave-in-pros...

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A blisteringly hot end to 2016 is in store for Sydney and those holidaying up the coast, prompting warnings from authorities to take care in the heat.

There's good news, though, for those making plans to enjoy the New Year's fireworks around Sydney Harbour.

Sydney's temperatures are expected to reach 30 degrees in the city and 37 in the west on Wednesday. The heat will be more punishing on Thursday, with 37 degrees tipped for the city and 42 in Penrith.

"The sea breeze won't be as strong tomorrow into Friday," Steph Spackman, a duty forecaster at the Bureau of Meteorology, said.

The bureau's heatwave service predicts almost all of the NSW coast will have a severe heatwave for the three days from Wednesday, while most of the rest of the state will have a low-intensity heatwave. (See chart below.)

The heatwave will intensify further, reaching extreme levels along the northern strip of coastal NSW for the three days from both Thursday and Friday.

Travellers should take care to carry sufficient water, check the air-conditioner and keep an eye on how others are coping, Ms Spackman said.

"I'd hate to be stuck in a traffic jam," she said.

Relief some way off

On current forecasts, Sydney won't cool off noticeably for several more days. Tops in the city are forecast to reach 33 degrees on Friday and 40 in Penrith.

Saturday will also warm into the low 30s in the city and mid-30s in western suburbs.

Importantly, overnight temperatures aren't expect to drop below 20 degrees before next Tuesday at the earliest, inhibiting the ability of people - and pets - to cool off after the warm days.

"The evenings will be quite warm and uncomfortable due to the humidity effects," Jacob Cronje, a senior meteorologist with Weatherzone said, adding that the high humidity expected will make conditions feel a couple of degrees warmer that the stated forecasts

"The only massive drop in temperatures will arrive on Monday," he said.

Sydney is likely to get some rain on Sunday, but not until the morning or early afternoon and so conditions should remain muggy but otherwise dry for revellers out near the harbour to welcome in 2017, Mr Cronje said.

There's the chance of a thunderstorm in Sydney's west on Saturday evening but sea breezes are likely to keep any storm activity away from the coast, the bureau's Ms Spackman said.

The hot spell is potentially the warmest final week of the year for Sydney for more than half a century, taking into account averages of minimums and maximums, Weatherzone, says.

Warnings

Several agencies have issued warnings about the coming heat, particularly as it may coincide with festivals and other year-end events.

There have also been as many as eight deaths in NSW since Christmas from drowning.

"Festival organisers should ensure that partygoers have access to free drinking water, shade, first aid services, and quiet areas where patrons to relax when they need a break," Michael Gannon, president of the Australian Medical Association, said in a statement.

Festival attendees also had a role to play in ensuring their own safety, and that of people around them, especially with alcohol and other substances being consumed.

"Taking illicit substances is illegal and dangerous, and tragically we have seen deaths and hospitalisations at festivals in previous years," Dr Gannon said.

Ben Scalley, NSW Health's Director of Environmental Health, said people should take precautions as the mercury starts to climb.

"Heat-related illness is very serious and ranges from mild conditions to very serious medical emergencies," Dr Scalley said. "Heat puts a lot of strain on the body and can cause dehydration, heat exhaustion and heat stroke. It can also make underlying health conditions worse."

People should drink lots of water and avoid alcoholic, hot or sugary drinks, he said. They should also plan their day around the heat, minimise physical activity and wear sunscreen and a hat if outdoors...
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Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 12:28pm:
lee wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 12:23pm:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:56am:
lee wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:55am:
Jovial Monk wrote on Dec 26th, 2016 at 10:52am:
So you can’t explain the record warm Arctic temperatures. why didn’t you just say so, lees?



Citation needed.

Not heard of natural variation?


Record warm.


Record warm—outside normal variation.


No it's not.  its not even record warm. nevermind outside natural variation.  Also, 'natural variation' is about CLIMATE, not simple weather.
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No it's not.


You agree? How disagreeable of you.
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New high temperature records are being reported nearly every day.

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2016/1126/Svalbard-above-freezing-Shocking-...

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STOCKHOLM — The Arctic archipelago of Svalbard has seen such extreme warmth this year that the average annual temperature could end up above freezing for the first time on record, scientists said Friday.

Ketil Isaksen of the Norwegian Meterological Institute said that the average temperature in Longyearbyen, the main settlement in Svalbard, is expected to be around 0 Celsius (32 Fahrenheit) with a little over a month left of the year.

"This is a little bit shocking," Dr. Isaksen said. "If you had asked me five or 10 years ago, I could not have imagined such numbers in 2016."

The normal yearly average in Svalbard, an island group midway between the North Pole and continental Norway, is 6.7 C below zero (-20 F). The warmest year until now was 2006, when the average temperature in Svalbard was -1.8 C (-29 F), Isaksen said.

"Svalbard is a very good spot to show what's happening in the Arctic at the moment," he said, noting that each of the past 73 months has been warmer than average.

The rising temperatures in the Arctic are affecting permafrost and snow cover as well as the amount of sea ice, which this year was the second-lowest on record. Isaksen said the sea ice is building up much slower than normal as winter approaches.

"There are still huge areas in the Barents Sea and Kara Sea to the east of Svalbard that are free of ice," he said. "They should normally be ice-covered."

Scientists believe the loss of sea ice accelerates the warming because ice reflects sunlight back into space while the darker surface of the ocean absorbs most of the radiation.

Recommended: 'Never Look a Polar Bear in the Eye': 5 stories from a family's time near the Arctic
As The Christian Science Monitor's Rowena Lindsay wrote Wednesday:

Sea ice essentially acts as an air conditioner for the world, moderating global temperatures and creating a place for the heat brought in at the tropics to escape to so that the Earth does not simply grow exponentially hotter, Dr. [Brenda] Ekwurzel tells The Christian Science Monitor in a phone interview.

Additionally, anything white – snow, ice, glaciers, or ice sheets – will reflect energy from the sun back into space, helping to keep the Earth cool ... But when the ice melts, the sun hits the dark ocean waters instead, which absorbs rather than reflects the sun’s energy.
A report released Friday by the Stockholm Environment Institute identified the decline in sea ice cover and the thinning of the Greenland ice sheet among several "regime shifts" happening in the Arctic as a result of climate change.

"These regime shifts affect the stability of the climate and landscape, plant and animal species' ability to survive, and indigenous peoples' subsistence and ways of life," the institute said.

As the Monitor's Zhai Yun Tan wrote Friday:

The changes set in motion by global warming were particularly pronounced this year, with the lowest sea ice level recorded in both the Arctic and Antarctic  and the highest average global surface temperature occurring from January to June, with some Arctic islands experiencing above freezing average annual temperatures for the first time on record. As past research has shown that such changes are amplified in polar regions, scientists are concerned about local communities’ ability to survive the changes brought by global warming.

“Arctic ecosystems are changing in dramatic ways: ice is melting, sea levels are rising, coastal areas are eroding, permafrost is thawing and landscapes are changing as the range of species shift,” the authors wrote in the report. “Resilience enables people and ecosystems to cope with the shocks and stresses associated with these changes … Yet some changes are so substantial … that they fundamentally alter the functioning of a system.”
Several studies show the world as a whole is on track for a new heat record this year, with the El Niño weather phenomenon adding to the underlying warming trend.
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The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are growing scarcer and in
some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report
to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate, at Bergen , Norway

Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change
in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone.

Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north
as 81 degrees 29 minutes.

Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm. 

Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones,
the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.

Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic,
while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north,
are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and
make most coastal cities uninhabitable.

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I must apologize.

I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922, as reported
by the AP and published in The Washington Post -
93 years ago.



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Valkie wrote on Dec 28th, 2016 at 1:09pm:
... I must apologize...


Apology accepted. Your problems are mostly genetic and not wholly of your making.
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Unforgiven wrote on Dec 28th, 2016 at 1:01pm:
The Arctic archipelago of Svalbard has seen such extreme warmth this year that the average annual temperature could end up above freezing for the first time on record, scientists said Friday.

Ketil Isaksen of the Norwegian Meterological Institute said that the average temperature in Longyearbyen, the main settlement in Svalbard, is expected to be around 0 Celsius (32 Fahrenheit) with a little over a month left of the year.



Based on predictions? Wink Has it never happened before?

Unforgiven wrote on Dec 28th, 2016 at 1:01pm:
Additionally, anything white – snow, ice, glaciers, or ice sheets – will reflect energy from the sun back into space, helping to keep the Earth cool ... But when the ice melts, the sun hits the dark ocean waters instead, which absorbs rather than reflects the sun’s energy.



According to-

https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/norway/longyearbyen

the sun is down all day. How does it achieve this reflection?
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lee wrote on Dec 28th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
... the sun is down all day...


Only in Denizen lee's and Valkie's world.
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lee wrote on Dec 28th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
the sun is down all day. How does it achieve this reflection?


The sun is not down all day for the whole year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longyearbyen

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Longyearbyen experiences midnight sun from 19 April to 23 August, polar night from 27 October to 14 February and civil polar night from 14 November to 29 January. However, due to shading from mountains, the sun is not visible in Longyearbyen until around 8 March.

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Carl D wrote on Dec 28th, 2016 at 2:37pm:
lee wrote on Dec 28th, 2016 at 1:16pm:
the sun is down all day. How does it achieve this reflection?


The sun is not down all day for the whole year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longyearbyen

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Longyearbyen experiences midnight sun from 19 April to 23 August, polar night from 27 October to 14 February and civil polar night from 14 November to 29 January. However, due to shading from mountains, the sun is not visible in Longyearbyen until around 8 March.




Now please show where I said it was down the whole year. It is currently down. Currently what effect is the sun having?
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Valkie wrote on Dec 28th, 2016 at 1:09pm:
... I must apologize...


Apology accepted. Your problems are mostly genetic and not wholly of your making.


Thats all right little Troll.

I'm your friend, I understand your condition and I will make allowances.
You cant help it, but if you try really really hard, we might just be able to help you mix with normal people.
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Nice temperate cool breeze with a bit of rain around here. This must be what it is like to live in Brisbane.
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Sandgropers are:

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/more-hot-weather-in-perth-befo...

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More hot weather in Perth before a cool-down later in week

Claire Tyrrell, PerthNow
January 3, 2017 3:35pm

PERTH'S heatwave is off to a sizzling start with the mercury hitting 40C just after 2pm.

The Weather Bureau has predicted more hot weather for the coming days as a trough hit the west coast.

“Today the trough will be pronounced and will move inland — we’re going to have hot conditions,” duty forecaster Tisha Winstanley said.

It had been forecast to hit 39C but slowly reached the high of 40C at 2.17pm.

Forecasters are now predicting that it will reach 41 C on Wednesday however the mercury is set to drop by Thursday when a weak frontal system moves in.

“In the wake of that front, a ridge will start to develop,” Ms Winstanley said. “Once it develops, it will heat up again.”

Thursday’s forecast maximum is 27C, Friday’s is 24C and on Saturday the temperature is predicted to reach a lovely 26C.

However, it is forecast to climb to 31C on Sunday.
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41 yesterday, and 41 again today.

Cry
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Which is actually very lucky for our local media, the top stories are already written, so the fact that their top "journalists" are on holidays isn't so horribly obvious.

"Perth SWELTERS in a SCORCHER"
"How Perth BEAT THE HEAT"
"RECORDS TUMBLE as Perth SIZZLES"

And so on, and so forth.
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... wrote on Jan 4th, 2017 at 12:12pm:
Which is actually very lucky for our local media, the top stories are already written, so the fact that their top "journalists" are on holidays isn't so horribly obvious.

"Perth SWELTERS in a SCORCHER"
"How Perth BEAT THE HEAT"
"RECORDS TUMBLE as Perth SIZZLES"

And so on, and so forth.


Yes, indeed.

Or even: "Perth wakes to another scorcher after long, hot night".

Unless, of course, a car drives through someone's house, a shark is seen swimming in the ocean (they could link that one to "How Perth Beat The Heat"), or Ben Cousins is seen in public.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2017 at 12:05pm:
41 yesterday, and 41 again today.

Cry


I think that is either equal or hotter than anything we had around here in the last 5 years.
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... others are:

...

http://www.climatecentral.org/news/daily-record-highs-2016-21019

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2016 will be remembered for many things. One of them will be heat.

It was the hottest year on record globally. While the world is still waiting for confirmation of just how high the record was, there’s a lot of data to digest from the U.S. Nearly every square inch of the country was dramatically warmer than normal.

The blistering pace of record-high temperatures across the country is the clearest sign of 2016’s extreme heat. Record-daily highs outpaced record-daily lows by 5.7-to-1 in 2016, according to preliminary data from the National Centers for Environmental Information. That’s the largest ratio in 95 years of record keeping. Put another way, 85 percent of extreme temperature records set in 2016 were of the hot variety.
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That can’t be! Sunspots! Little Ice Age!

ehehehehe amzing to read the fools who follow Booby’s hero Dumanurespreader “You don’t read this in the MSM” “They are persisting in calling 2016 the hottest year ever LOL” etnauseatingcetera. And Booby laps the crap up uncritically then calls it “EVIDENCE!”
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2016 Not Warmest Year Ever, Magic Ocean Warming & Mismatched Satellite Temperature Data (282)


Published on Jan 4, 2017

2016 has tied 1998 for temperatures with dramatic cooling in the latter part of the year. Using 8 temperature data sets measuring the lower troposphere, interesting how NOAA temps are so far above everything else our there. Antarctic temperature trend is down, 2016-17 trend is down. Snow cover has increases in December compared to 2015 totals and La Nina is still cooling. Look for cold spring.
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Breitbart lies.

Yes, of course it cools after a El Nino, but the weather last year was warmer than normal. Need I remind you of the Siberian heatwaves, the very warm Arctic, Booby?
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UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 5th, 2017 at 12:18am:
greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 4th, 2017 at 12:05pm:
41 yesterday, and 41 again today.

Cry


I think that is either equal or hotter than anything we had around here in the last 5 years.


Perth gets fricken hot.

We always get a few days in a row over 40 in February.

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Breitbart lies.

Yes, of course it cools after a El Nino, but the weather last year was warmer than normal. Need I remind you of the Siberian heatwaves, the very warm Arctic, Booby?


last year was an El  Nino year also.Wink
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It's been hot today in Melbourne.
It'll be 36 on Saturday.

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 5th, 2017 at 9:05pm:
It's been hot today in Melbourne.
It'll be 36 on Saturday.

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml


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... NSW and Victoria are sweating:

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/top-stories/2017/01/08/nsw-and-victoria-sweat-thr...

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NSW and Victoria brace for more hot weather as sizzling temperatures remain across south east Australia.

A stubborn heatwave, being blamed on warm central Australian winds, is settling in across NSW, with very little relief from the sweat-inducing temperatures in sight for many days.

Sydney will be spared the worst of the oppressive heat, with coastal sea breezes restricting temperatures to between the high 20s and mid 30s for much of the week.

But inland NSW will bear the full brunt of the scorching conditions, with the heatwave expected to intensify to severe or extreme levels as the week wears on.

The mercury will hit the high 30s and 40s across much of inland NSW on Sunday before climbing further still, according to the Bureau of Meteorology.

The heatwave will then persist over much of NSW for the week, first punishing the state's southeast before spreading its scorching wrath further north.

A southeasterly pushing up the coast on Thursday is expected to bring some relief, with temperatures tipped to fall back briefly, before creeping up again on Friday ahead of the weekend.

Meanwhile, Victoria is entering its third day of hot weather.

The Bureau of Meteorology has forecast a maximum of 34C on Sunday, following on from "oppressive" overnight temperatures that hovered around a minimum of 28C.

A cool change is expected to reach Melbourne about midday, but in the meantime health authorities are advising residents to stay cool and hydrated, and to look out for elderly and vulnerable people.

Temperatures in Melbourne reached a maximum of 37C on Saturday, with the hot conditions resulting in Ambulance Victoria responding to more than a dozen heat exposure incidents.
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Booby’s hero, the charlatan Dumanurespreader NEVER discusses heatwaves. He calls everything a record snowfall not realising that as AGW proceeds there is more evaporation so more moisture in the atmosphere resulting in more precipitation—and record snowfalls and floods and hail. Poor Booby believes this shows an approaching LIA. Pathetic reasoning but Booby looks far too much to “authority” to tell him what to think.
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BOM is:

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Jovial Monk wrote on Jan 8th, 2017 at 10:18am:
Booby’s hero, the charlatan Dumanurespreader NEVER discusses heatwaves. He calls everything a record snowfall not realising that as AGW proceeds there is more evaporation so more moisture in the atmosphere resulting in more precipitation—and record snowfalls and floods and hail. Poor Booby believes this shows an approaching LIA. Pathetic reasoning but Booby looks far too much to “authority” to tell him what to think.

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Booby’s hero, the charlatan Dumanurespreader NEVER discusses heatwaves. He calls everything a record snowfall not realising that as AGW proceeds there is more evaporation so more moisture in the atmosphere resulting in more precipitation—and record snowfalls and floods and hail. Poor Booby believes this shows an approaching LIA. Pathetic reasoning but Booby looks far too much to “authority” to tell him what to think.

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Booby’s hero, the charlatan Dumanurespreader NEVER discusses heatwaves. He calls everything a record snowfall not realising that as AGW proceeds there is more evaporation so more moisture in the atmosphere resulting in more precipitation—and record snowfalls and floods and hail. Poor Booby believes this shows an approaching LIA. Pathetic reasoning but Booby looks far too much to “authority” to tell him what to think.

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OMG we might get a warm day this Summer .... thanks for the weather forecast.
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... BOM are:

https://www.theguardian.com/weather/2017/jan/11/temperatures-to-soar-above-40c-a...

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Temperatures to soar above 40C as heatwave sweeps eastern Australia

Mercury readings in parts of central and southern Queensland and NSW eclipse those in country’s tropical north, sparking warnings to avoid sun and drink plenty of water

A heatwave predicted to stretch across 1,000km of eastern Australia has prompted warnings for the public to avoid physical activity in the sun and stay alert for signs of heat-related illness in others, especially children and older people.

Temperatures are expected to soar above 40C in parts of central and southern Queensland and New South Wales over coming days, eclipsing the mercury readings in Australia’s tropical north.

The Bureau of Meteorology predicts an extreme heatwave straddling the inland border of both states, with Bourke in the NSW outback and Thargomindah in Queensland’s channel country tipped to reach the highest temperatures of 45C and 44C respectively on Wednesday. The mercury in Thargomindah will hit 46C on Thursday, according to the bureau.

Maitland, north of Sydney, is forecast to reach 41C, while Sydney’s western suburbs will also swelter in 40C on Wednesday.

A total fire ban has been declared in Sydney and parts of the Hunter Valley, while the rural fire service warned of very high fire danger in Queensland’s central highlands and coalfields through to Thursday. Unusually high temperatures in the region are expected over the next three days and into the weekend.

Tony Hucker, director of clinical quality and patient safety at the Queensland ambulance service, said avoiding the hottest part of the day and keeping drinking water at hand was the key to addressing the “very high” risk of heat-related illness.

“If you have to do some physical activity – we’d prefer you’d avoid it – but if you have to, make sure you keep the fluids up,” he said.

Hucker said the onset of heat-related illness, a risk particularly for children and older people, “can be really sneaky”. The telltale signs could be as innocuous-seeming as “a bit of a headache or just feeling a little bit unwell”.

“But if you’re watching other people, particularly outside, that are either exercising or maybe even doing some work in the hottest part of the day, it could be just some subtle abnormal behaviour,” he said.

“Now these people we need to grab straight away and get them into a cool area, get their clothing off, splash them with water and fan them down and get them to drink some water. Now if they’re sick and they can’t drink, that’s an emergency. We need to get the ambulance there as quick as we can.”

Surf Lifesaving NSW called on beachgoers to be aware of dizziness, fatigue and headaches as signs of heat stress.

Hucker urged people cooling off with their families at beaches or pools during school holidays to be particularly vigilant with young children.

The warning came after the near drowning of two-year-old boy in a backyard inflatable pool at Morayfield, north of Brisbane, which resulted in his death a day later. The boy was rushed to Lady Cilento children’s hospital in a critical condition on Tuesday afternoon but died on Wednesday.

A young girl who nearly drowned in a pool at Varsity Lakes on the Gold Coast was in a stable condition at Robina hospital on Wednesday morning. It follows a spate of drownings this summer in NSW.

“It’s tough I know but the only way to get ready for those potential drownings is to prevent them,” he said. “At the beach, at pools, it’s really important to keep an eye out, particularly with little kids, they can get away from you in a few moments and all of a sudden they can be in the bottom of a pool.”

Hucker also urged people to check on older neighbours to make sure they were OK.

The RSPCA in NSW urged people to take particular care with pets who faced “potentially lethal heat stress”, noting it could take just six minutes for an animal to die of heatstroke.

Police had already rescued a dog locked in a hot car in western Sydney on Wednesday morning, the RSPCA said.

“Many people are not aware that if you leave your dog unattended in the car, even with windows down and in the shade, there’s still a high risk of heatstroke and potentially suffering a worse fate,” said David O’Shannessy, the chief inspector of RSPCA NSW.

Cars parked in the sun could reach 80C and remain dangerously hot even with windows open, with dogs panting compounding the heat.

Dogs in backyards should not be tethered and needed shade and constant access to drinking water, the RSPCA said.

Weatherzone predicted a “cool change will flush the heat out” of the region at the weekend, however “unfortunately the respite will be short-lived, with warm northerly winds redeveloping across eastern Australia from the beginning of next week”.
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I cycled to the beach at 630 this morning and it was packed.
The water is still bloody cold so it caused a fog drifting across the ocean.

The mercury cracked 30 degrees at 2am at Observatory Hill in inner Sydney as sheets clung to backs across the city. At 5pm on Friday, Penrith at the base of the Blue Mountains was clinging to 39 degrees.
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The water is still bloody cold so it caused a fog drifting across the ocean.


I'm contemplating buying bags of  ice to throw in the pool ... yesterday the pool was 32 degrees ... I don't even have my showers that warm
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Reply #307 - Jan 14th, 2017 at 8:55am
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 8:48am:
Gordon wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 8:46am:
The water is still bloody cold so it caused a fog drifting across the ocean.


I'm contemplating buying bags of  ice to throw in the pool ... yesterday the pool was 32 degrees ... I don't even have my showers that warm


In Hanoi my place had stainless watertanks on the roof (because water pressure is crap it needs to be pumped up), in midsummer it used to come out at about 50deg. I'd have to leave the hot water system (which was inside the house) turned off and use it for a cold shower.
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Reply #308 - Jan 14th, 2017 at 11:57pm
 
John Smith wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 8:48am:
Gordon wrote on Jan 14th, 2017 at 8:46am:
The water is still bloody cold so it caused a fog drifting across the ocean.


I'm contemplating buying bags of  ice to throw in the pool ... yesterday the pool was 32 degrees ... I don't even have my showers that warm


Waste of money doing that. I have cold showers from October to March and have to endure the water being not cold enough for my liking. But I doubt that the pool water would be much above 20 degrees. Do you have your pool in direct sunlight? But if it helps cool your pool for that half an hour or so, go for it with your dumping of ice into the pool.
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Was a bit of a stinker the other night. Heat and humidity making it impossible to sleep during the night. I fell asleep from exhaustion and slept through the day. Luckily it was my day off.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:13am:
Was a bit of a stinker the other night. Heat and humidity making it impossible to sleep during the night. I fell asleep from exhaustion and slept through the day. Luckily it was my day off.


How is it tonight? It's still 27.3 and 77% humidity here at 01:16.
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I cycled to the beach at 630 this morning...


Menstrual? How does that work for you?
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Was a bit of a stinker the other night. Heat and humidity making it impossible to sleep during the night. I fell asleep from exhaustion and slept through the day. Luckily it was my day off.


You should give your jaws a day off from masticating food.
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Unforgiven wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:46am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:13am:
Was a bit of a stinker the other night. Heat and humidity making it impossible to sleep during the night. I fell asleep from exhaustion and slept through the day. Luckily it was my day off.


You should give your jaws a day off from masticating food.


I think you opened up a line of response there you probably didn't want to.
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Setanta wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:52am:
Unforgiven wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:46am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:13am:
Was a bit of a stinker the other night. Heat and humidity making it impossible to sleep during the night. I fell asleep from exhaustion and slept through the day. Luckily it was my day off.


You should give your jaws a day off from masticating food.


I think you opened up a line of response there you probably didn't want to.


It was intentional. UnsubRocky has a weight problem that is defeating him.
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Unforgiven wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 1:12am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:52am:
Unforgiven wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:46am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:13am:
Was a bit of a stinker the other night. Heat and humidity making it impossible to sleep during the night. I fell asleep from exhaustion and slept through the day. Luckily it was my day off.


You should give your jaws a day off from masticating food.


I think you opened up a line of response there you probably didn't want to.


It was intentional. UnsubRocky has a weight problem that is defeating him.


I must admit I once used his self confessed weight in a post. I've since reconsidered using such info against the poster.
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Unforgiven wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 1:12am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:52am:
Unforgiven wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:46am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:13am:
Was a bit of a stinker the other night. Heat and humidity making it impossible to sleep during the night. I fell asleep from exhaustion and slept through the day. Luckily it was my day off.


You should give your jaws a day off from masticating food.


I think you opened up a line of response there you probably didn't want to.


It was intentional. UnsubRocky has a weight problem that is defeating him.


Post to maybe flip the page and point out why it may have been unwise.

Are you masticating betel or dick?
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be bop
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Just started raining, thunder and lightning. Relief!
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Setanta wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 1:19am:
be bop

...

Rocksteady: [gestures towards Shredder] It's him!
Bebop: Hey, hey, hey, speak from your heart!
Rocksteady: Hey Mr Shredder! Big fan of your work, especially your early stuff!
Bebop: My name is Bebop. This is Rocksteady. I know that's a crazy name, right, but his ancestors are from Finland.
Rocksteady: Yeah, that's right, I'm Finnish. 'Cause when I start a beatdown, I always FINNISH it!
Bebop: What!
Rocksteady: Yeah, I said it!
Bebop: Did you hear that?
Rocksteady: I said it!
Bebop: [laughs] My man!
Rocksteady: My man!
Bebop: Gimme that foot!
[Bebop and Rocksteady proceed to high five each other with their feet]
Casey Jones: [Bangs on the cage in the Police van] Hey! Shut up back there!
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..great movie!!!

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Enlighten me, sounds better than LTYC's teen suicide video.
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Unforgiven wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:46am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:13am:
Was a bit of a stinker the other night. Heat and humidity making it impossible to sleep during the night. I fell asleep from exhaustion and slept through the day. Luckily it was my day off.


You should give your jaws a day off from masticating food.


Oh the burrrrn! The burrrn is so real!

Not that I disagree. I earned $90 from 4 hours work. Then lost $50 on the pokies. And $11 on an emergency McDonalds meal from not eating for 4 hours. All that to put on 2kg with the added snacking and sitting in front of the computer playing strategy games for the last 5 hours.

One of these days, I'm going to have my own fasting day, and see how I go. Perhaps Monday. Maybe that will help me get through the nights of sleeplessness.
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Setanta wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 1:16am:
Unforgiven wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 1:12am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:52am:
Unforgiven wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:46am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 12:13am:
Was a bit of a stinker the other night. Heat and humidity making it impossible to sleep during the night. I fell asleep from exhaustion and slept through the day. Luckily it was my day off.


You should give your jaws a day off from masticating food.


I think you opened up a line of response there you probably didn't want to.


It was intentional. UnsubRocky has a weight problem that is defeating him.


I must admit I once used his self confessed weight in a post. I've since reconsidered using such info against the poster.


I don't care if people label me a fat-arse every now and then. The only excuse I have is that for the last 8 years, someone has been 'poisoning' my water supply, leading me to health problems that have induced weight gain. I know for sure because the assholes admitted it to me with the idea that it was a prolonged prank against me for whatever knuckle-headed incentive that popped into their heads. Before then, I had no problem with maintaining a healthy weight range.

But, I have resolved the situation, and have started (since December) found ways to counter the health problems that have lead to my weight gain. So, no excuses from me for now onwards.
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TheFunPolice wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 2:00am:
..great movie!!!

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


I thought both movies sucked balls so much that I could not be bothered watching a second time around on dvd. Michael Bay is so out of touch with making action films.
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Rockhampton is supposed to be getting rain periods for much of the day Sunday. Should be gone by Monday. I hope the last 2 weeks of this month will prove to be a good spell of rain.
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... my thongs are stuck to the bitumen.

http://northboundasia.com/2017/01/14/australian-heatwave-causing-roads-melt-outb...

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SYDNEY — The Australian outback township of Bourke in New South Wales state is on track to break the state’s record for 22 consecutive days above 40 degrees Celsius as the country’s scorching heatwave continues Friday.

A build-up of a hot air mass has been stuck over central and Western Australia with not enough cold air coming from the south to move the heat around, sending the mercury soaring to 46 degrees in Bourke.

“The Bitumen roads melt. It doesn’t run or anything, but if you’re wearing thongs it gets really tacky and sticks to the bottom of them,” a resident told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation.

The state’s hottest recorded temperature of 49.7 degrees was also registered at Bourke in 1903.

The community of Wilcannia, 300 km south west of Bourke, will experience the state’s highest temperature Friday at 47 degrees.

Australia’s extreme conditions continue across the rest of the state with parts of Sydney expected to reach 42 degrees.

Total fire bans remain in effect across New South Wales and other states after a large grass fire shut down a major expressway 200 km north of Sydney on Wednesday. PNA/Xinhua-northboundasia.com
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Reply #327 - Jan 16th, 2017 at 4:59pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 4:53pm:
my thongs are stuck to the bitumen.



Don't burn your cheeks.
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lee wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Jan 16th, 2017 at 4:53pm:
my thongs are stuck to the bitumen.


Don't burn your cheeks.


Recommendation based on denizen lee's experience?
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Setanta wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 2:05am:
TheFunPolice wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 2:00am:
..great movie!!!

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Enlighten me, sounds better than LTYC's teen suicide video.

Just cool characters for beebop and rocksteady!

The place crash-fight scene was a bit over the top but what are you going to do: life is a grind so escape is worthwhile!
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UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 4:58am:
TheFunPolice wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 2:00am:
..great movie!!!

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


I thought both movies sucked balls so much that I could not be bothered watching a second time around on dvd. Michael Bay is so out of touch with making action films.

Was there 2?
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It's going to be 38 degrees in Melbourne today.

Lucky for me I have a good aircon.
It has a timer so it is set to have my place cool for when I arrive home after work.

From memory - February is the worst month for heatwaves here.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 5:50am:
It's going to be 38 degrees in Melbourne today.

Lucky for me I have a good aircon.
It has a timer so it is set to have my place cool for when I arrive home after work.

From memory - February is the worst month for heatwaves here.


Only supposed to 33 here today but the RH is 97% already so it will be like a sauna.
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Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:04am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 5:50am:
It's going to be 38 degrees in Melbourne today.

Lucky for me I have a good aircon.
It has a timer so it is set to have my place cool for when I arrive home after work.

From memory - February is the worst month for heatwaves here.


Only supposed to 33 here today but the RH is 97% already so it will be like a sauna.



97% humidity -

you need a good aircon.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:04am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 5:50am:
It's going to be 38 degrees in Melbourne today.

Lucky for me I have a good aircon.
It has a timer so it is set to have my place cool for when I arrive home after work.

From memory - February is the worst month for heatwaves here.


Only supposed to 33 here today but the RH is 97% already so it will be like a sauna.



97% humidity -

you need a good aircon.


I'll be working in a kitchen with ovens and gas burners going, a dishwasher full of 85 degree water and two sinks full of hot water, 33 degrees and 97% RH outside will probably be a blessing and I don't even get paid for it. Grin
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Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:19am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:04am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 5:50am:
It's going to be 38 degrees in Melbourne today.

Lucky for me I have a good aircon.
It has a timer so it is set to have my place cool for when I arrive home after work.

From memory - February is the worst month for heatwaves here.


Only supposed to 33 here today but the RH is 97% already so it will be like a sauna.



97% humidity -

you need a good aircon.


I'll be working in a kitchen with ovens and gas burners going, a dishwasher full of 85 degree water and two sinks full of hot water, 33 degrees and 97% RH outside will probably be a blessing and I don't even get paid for it. Grin



That's crazy - you could have a heart attack in those conditions.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 5:50am:
It's going to be 38 degrees in Melbourne today.

Lucky for me I have a good aircon.
It has a timer so it is set to have my place cool for when I arrive home after work.

From memory - February is the worst month for heatwaves here.

Feb 1 is my birthday: yay!


Cheesy
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Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:19am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:04am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 5:50am:
It's going to be 38 degrees in Melbourne today.

Lucky for me I have a good aircon.
It has a timer so it is set to have my place cool for when I arrive home after work.

From memory - February is the worst month for heatwaves here.


Only supposed to 33 here today but the RH is 97% already so it will be like a sauna.



97% humidity -

you need a good aircon.


I'll be working in a kitchen with ovens and gas burners going, a dishwasher full of 85 degree water and two sinks full of hot water, 33 degrees and 97% RH outside will probably be a blessing and I don't even get paid for it. Grin

I was playing baseball catcher when it was 46 in Perth eons ago...(in the early 90s?!) .. and I didn't get paid. Mum reckons my brother went home with a blood nose and I was happy enough  Shocked Shocked Shocked

(Is that called Schaudenfraude??)
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TheFunPolice wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 7:40am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:19am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:04am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 5:50am:
It's going to be 38 degrees in Melbourne today.

Lucky for me I have a good aircon.
It has a timer so it is set to have my place cool for when I arrive home after work.

From memory - February is the worst month for heatwaves here.


Only supposed to 33 here today but the RH is 97% already so it will be like a sauna.



97% humidity -

you need a good aircon.


I'll be working in a kitchen with ovens and gas burners going, a dishwasher full of 85 degree water and two sinks full of hot water, 33 degrees and 97% RH outside will probably be a blessing and I don't even get paid for it. Grin

I was playing baseball catcher when it was 46 in Perth eons ago...(in the early 90s?!) .. and I didn't get paid. Mum reckons my brother went home with a blood nose and I was happy enough  Shocked Shocked Shocked

(Is that called Schaudenfraude??)

..but I digress: Kitchens can suck unless you give yourself a good chefs slice!!
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32deg at 10pm
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TheFunPolice wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 5:28am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 4:58am:
TheFunPolice wrote on Jan 15th, 2017 at 2:00am:
..great movie!!!

Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


I thought both movies sucked balls so much that I could not be bothered watching a second time around on dvd. Michael Bay is so out of touch with making action films.

Was there 2?


Two crappy, Transformer-like movies. Lacking anything of substance to be memorable. I can't remember how the first movie went. The second one was so attention deficit disorder oriented that I can't remember much about that one either.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:04am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 5:50am:
It's going to be 38 degrees in Melbourne today.

Lucky for me I have a good aircon.
It has a timer so it is set to have my place cool for when I arrive home after work.

From memory - February is the worst month for heatwaves here.


Only supposed to 33 here today but the RH is 97% already so it will be like a sauna.



97% humidity -

you need a good aircon.


The other night, it was so hot and humid, I walked down to the service station for a drink and a bit of exercise. The service station had their air conditioner on to a low setting such that the windows were all misty from the humidity resting on the windows. The work cold room is set to 1 degree, and it gets so slippery walking in on a humid day. Winter days are different. Being from a dry weather environment, you only see that sort of thing during hot humid days when you need air conditioning.
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TheFunPolice wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 7:40am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:19am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:14am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 6:04am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 5:50am:
It's going to be 38 degrees in Melbourne today.

Lucky for me I have a good aircon.
It has a timer so it is set to have my place cool for when I arrive home after work.

From memory - February is the worst month for heatwaves here.


Only supposed to 33 here today but the RH is 97% already so it will be like a sauna.



97% humidity -

you need a good aircon.


I'll be working in a kitchen with ovens and gas burners going, a dishwasher full of 85 degree water and two sinks full of hot water, 33 degrees and 97% RH outside will probably be a blessing and I don't even get paid for it. Grin

I was playing baseball catcher when it was 46 in Perth eons ago...(in the early 90s?!) .. and I didn't get paid. Mum reckons my brother went home with a blood nose and I was happy enough  Shocked Shocked Shocked

(Is that called Schaudenfraude??)


I'm from Perth, I've picked mallee roots in that kind heat out near Kalannie in treeless fields, Perth heat is not humid, sweating works.
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I hate aircon accept in the car.
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Gordon wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 10:53pm:
I hate aircon accept in the car.


I don't even use it in the car.
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I use the car heater in winter but don't have any in the house.
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Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 11:10pm:
I use the car heater in winter but don't have any in the house.



You're tough - the man who doesn't need an air con.
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Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 6:00am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 11:10pm:
I use the car heater in winter but don't have any in the house.



You're tough - the man who doesn't need an air con.


I don't like aircon Bobby. No-one had aircon when I was growing up. I really don't like walking out of aircon into the real world or getting out of an airconed car. Nothing to do with being tough. How did mankind do without it for so long? I do use fans though.
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Reply #351 - Jan 18th, 2017 at 6:23am
 
Setanta wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 6:07am:
Bobby. wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 6:00am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 11:10pm:
I use the car heater in winter but don't have any in the house.



You're tough - the man who doesn't need an air con.


I don't like aircon Bobby. No-one had aircon when I was growing up. I really don't like walking out of aircon into the real world or getting out of an airconed car. Nothing to do with being tough. How did mankind do without it for so long? I do use fans though.



I love my aircon - in the car & at home.
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Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 11:10pm:
I use the car heater in winter but don't have any in the house.


I did a winter in Ewingsdale in a drafty old house and it was frickin freezing. Lucky it had a fireplace in every room and plenty of firewood.
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Last night was a shocker, it hardly got below 30deg and was 37 by 830am. Sydney only gets one or two like that a year tho where there's no sea breeze in the afternoon so I usually just open up the 10m sliding doors and enjoy the free air-con.

Anyway, the cool change has just kicked it!



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It's days, weeks like this I think about Ludwig Leichhardt and wonder what happened to him and where.
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Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 11:10pm:
I use the car heater in winter but don't have any in the house.


I set the car's heat setting to hot, but leave the heater off. I let the vents passively let the heat through the car during the cold winter. Even so, it never gets that cold that I need to keep the car heated that much. During the summer, I have to leave the air conditioner off, as I seem to sunburn and dehydrate more easily through using air conditioning. I only use the air conditioning when I dress up to go out and don't want to sweat before I reach my destination.
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Gordon wrote on Jan 18th, 2017 at 8:43am:
Setanta wrote on Jan 17th, 2017 at 11:10pm:
I use the car heater in winter but don't have any in the house.


I did a winter in Ewingsdale in a drafty old house and it was frickin freezing. Lucky it had a fireplace in every room and plenty of firewood.


Normal people call those floor boards.
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The denialists are suffering heat exhaustion:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/qld-nsw-outback-towns-to-reach-hig...

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TEMPERATURES in parts of New South Wales Queensland are tipped to climb as high as 48C in the next week as Australia’s long, hot summer gets longer and hotter.

An extreme heatwave will sweep across the country’s east this weekend, with northwest NSW and south west Queensland bearing the brunt.

Birdsville, in Queensland’s far west is tipped to reach 48C next Tuesday.

The outback town has sweltered through extreme temperatures, with just one day below 40C since January 15.
Night-time temperatures have barely dropped below 30C.

On the same day Birdsville hits 48C, the outback NSW town of Bourke is also tipped to reach 46C.
The heatwave as it moves across Australia on Friday, with the red part representing temperatures above 45C. Picture: Bureau of Meteorology.

The town has had a week of temperatures in the low to mid 40s and NSW Bureau of Meteorology forecaster Jordan Notara said a cool change was a log way off.

“Really there isn’t any major relief for the western arts of NSW and the north west,” he said.
By Tuesday, outback Queensland and NSW will be in the grip of extreme heat, with the red section representing temperatures above 45C.

By Tuesday, outback Queensland and NSW will be in the grip of extreme heat, with the red section representing temperatures above 45C.

Sydneysiders, fresh from the hottest January on record, are again set to swelter with the brief respite of cooler days and nights set to end on Saturday.

The mercury will drop to only 24C overnight Friday, and climb as high as 36 degrees on Sunday, according to the Bureau of Meteorology.
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Hottest January on record?

According to BoM

Sydney Observatory hill January 2017 Mean Daily maximum - 25.9ºC

January Highest monthly mean - 29.5ºC

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/weatherData/av?p_nccObsCode=122&p_display_typ...

January 2017 Daily Minimum Mean - 18.7ºC

January Highest minimum Mean - 21.0ºC

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/weatherData/av?p_nccObsCode=123&p_display_typ...

"Daytime temperatures were well above average across Sydney during January, with several stations, including Observatory Hill, recording their warmest January on record"

"Minimum temperatures were also record warm across the city, with all Sydney stations recording their warmest January mean temperature on record."

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/month/nsw/sydney.shtml#recordsTmaxAvgHigh
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it's certainly been the hottest summer I've had in a few years .... I don't think the temps dropped below 30 since early December except for maybe one day.

the real kicker up here though is the humidity.
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Felt a lot more humid around parts of CQ over the last week. We might be getting a cyclone forming off the coast somewhere and sometime soon. Oz Cyclone Chasers have mentioned likelihood of getting a cyclone in the next fortnight.
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Squire wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 11:36am:
The denialists are suffering heat exhaustion:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/qld-nsw-outback-towns-to-reach-hig...

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TEMPERATURES in parts of New South Wales Queensland are tipped to climb as high as 48C in the next week as Australia’s long, hot summer gets longer and hotter.

An extreme heatwave will sweep across the country’s east this weekend, with northwest NSW and south west Queensland bearing the brunt.

Birdsville, in Queensland’s far west is tipped to reach 48C next Tuesday.

The outback town has sweltered through extreme temperatures, with just one day below 40C since January 15.
Night-time temperatures have barely dropped below 30C.

On the same day Birdsville hits 48C, the outback NSW town of Bourke is also tipped to reach 46C.
The heatwave as it moves across Australia on Friday, with the red part representing temperatures above 45C. Picture: Bureau of Meteorology.

The town has had a week of temperatures in the low to mid 40s and NSW Bureau of Meteorology forecaster Jordan Notara said a cool change was a log way off.

“Really there isn’t any major relief for the western arts of NSW and the north west,” he said.
By Tuesday, outback Queensland and NSW will be in the grip of extreme heat, with the red section representing temperatures above 45C.

By Tuesday, outback Queensland and NSW will be in the grip of extreme heat, with the red section representing temperatures above 45C.

Sydneysiders, fresh from the hottest January on record, are again set to swelter with the brief respite of cooler days and nights set to end on Saturday.

The mercury will drop to only 24C overnight Friday, and climb as high as 36 degrees on Sunday, according to the Bureau of Meteorology.


So...it gets hot in far western qld........nah ya havin me on! Next you'll be trying to preach to us that more electric cars in London will make it cooler in Birdsville ..... where do all the brainless twats come from? Is the interweb their cultural home or something??
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... Next you'll be trying to preach to us that more electric cars in London will make it cooler in Birdsville...


Probably will.
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It's been the hottest January here in Sydney since records began over 160 years ago.

The oddest thing is that many Sydneysiders have rushed to the beaches to get cool ... lying on the sand in blistering heat while beginning the process of developing melanomas.

You're a Weird Mob.
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Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 7:33pm:
It's been the hottest January here in Sydney since records began over 160 years ago.



lee wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Hottest January on record?

According to BoM

Sydney Observatory hill January 2017 Mean Daily maximum - 25.9ºC

January Highest monthly mean - 29.5ºC (The record)

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/weatherData/av?p_nccObsCode=122&p_display_typ...

January 2017 Daily Minimum Mean - 18.7ºC

January Highest minimum Mean - 21.0ºC (the record)

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/weatherData/av?p_nccObsCode=123&p_display_typ...

"Daytime temperatures were well above average across Sydney during January, with several stations, including Observatory Hill, recording their warmest January on record"

"Minimum temperatures were also record warm across the city, with all Sydney stations recording their warmest January mean temperature on record."

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/month/nsw/sydney.shtml#recordsTmaxAvgHigh


Not according to the data.
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Squire wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 7:31pm:
Rider wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 7:27pm:
... Next you'll be trying to preach to us that more electric cars in London will make it cooler in Birdsville...


Probably will.


There was a study conducted years ago about the effect of car engines on the weather conditions in cities. The scientists found that the hottest days were the ones that had the most cars driving around the city. Wednesday happened to be the most productive day of the week. We normally can see this type of scientific study in action better during the winter. When people crowd in large numbers (concerts, stadiums, etc.) it is generally warmer.

If Londoners adopt electric cars, whatever equilibrium effect it has on the global scale will be very minimal on places that are not the polar opposites geographically. You would need a very cold winter to see in the northern hemisphere to find a hot weather in the southern hemisphere. And a hot northern hemisphere for it to be cold in the southern.

Yes, cars produce heat. But not really enough to intensify a cold on the opposite side of the world.
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Reply #366 - Feb 4th, 2017 at 12:24am
 
Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 7:33pm:
It's been the hottest January here in Sydney since records began over 160 years ago.

The oddest thing is that many Sydneysiders have rushed to the beaches to get cool ... lying on the sand in blistering heat while beginning the process of developing melanomas.

You're a Weird Mob.


They do it to take advantage of the sun. I went to the beach about a month ago, for curiosity sake. It was not all that hot. But I did not spend much time in the sun, whether I was on the beach or at the park.
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UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 12:24am:
They do it to take advantage of the sun. I went to the beach about a month ago, for curiosity sake. It was not all that hot. But I did not spend much time in the sun, whether I was on the beach or at the park.


Some of the guys probably feel it's worth getting roasted on the beach and up for skin cancer in 30 years time just to ogle the girls in their string-bikinis. My own sun-blisters are only just now beginning to collapse and respond to the ointments my doctor has been prescribing for me. 
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Hasnt once even looked like summer here in melbourne.  Forecast for fothcoming week not even close to it either.

Anything more than a 4 day forecast is fabricated modelling......and we all know just how good the BOM is at fabricating  Grin

Ooops, did i say fabricating i must have meant homogenizing.....give ne a break fraudsters !
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UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 12:21am:
Squire wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 7:31pm:
Rider wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 7:27pm:
... Next you'll be trying to preach to us that more electric cars in London will make it cooler in Birdsville...


Probably will.


There was a study conducted years ago about the effect of car engines on the weather conditions in cities. The scientists found that the hottest days were the ones that had the most cars driving around the city. Wednesday happened to be the most productive day of the week. We normally can see this type of scientific study in action better during the winter. When people crowd in large numbers (concerts, stadiums, etc.) it is generally warmer.

If Londoners adopt electric cars, whatever equilibrium effect it has on the global scale will be very minimal on places that are not the polar opposites geographically. You would need a very cold winter to see in the northern hemisphere to find a hot weather in the southern hemisphere. And a hot northern hemisphere for it to be cold in the southern.

Yes, cars produce heat. But not really enough to intensify a cold on the opposite side of the world.


You bet. I drive trucks, come stand next to the rig sometime.....
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... the heat goes on scorching February.

...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4186782/Temperatures-set-climb-week-heat...

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It's not over yet! Temperatures set to climb to almost 50C this week - as heatwave continues to scorch the east coast

    Parts of Queensland and New South Wales to experience scorching weather
    Sydney will be hot and humid with a chance of showers on the weekend
    Birdsville, in Queensland's west, will reach 48 degrees on Tuesday
    Brisbane is looking at a scorching week with beautiful sunny weather
    Melbourne is set for a mixed weekend with a warm Saturday and wet Sunday

Parts of New South Wales and Queensland are set for scorching temperatures this weekend and next week as both states undergo an extended heatwave.

Sydney's weather is looking hot and humid over the next few days with a top of 32 degrees on Saturday and a 30 per cent chance of showers.

The temperature will be turned up on Sunday reaching a maximum of 36 degrees and the afternoon will be partly cloudy.
Despite some cloudy weather in Sydney on Friday people still flocked to Bondi

Despite some cloudy weather in Sydney on Friday people still flocked to Bondi
The heat map of Australia shows the scorching weather moving towards Queensland and New South Wales

The heat map of Australia shows the scorching weather moving towards Queensland and New South Wales
Many took the morning as a chance to relax on Bondi beach

Many took the morning as a chance to relax on Bondi beach

Meanwhile in Queensland Birdsville is tipped to reach a whopping 48C next Tuesday.

Brisbane will also be looking at a week of hot and sunny weather.

Both Saturday and Sunday will reach a maximum of 33 degrees with a slight breeze and little cloud cover.

Temperatures will remain above 30C until Thursday, according to the Bureau of Meteorology.
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A pity they don't have a colour chart.
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A pity they don't have a colour chart.


That would be racist.
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lee wrote on Feb 3rd, 2017 at 12:59pm:
Hottest January on record?

According to BoM

Sydney Observatory hill January 2017 Mean Daily maximum - 25.9ºC

January Highest monthly mean - 29.5ºC

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/weatherData/av?p_nccObsCode=122&p_display_typ...

January 2017 Daily Minimum Mean - 18.7ºC

January Highest minimum Mean - 21.0ºC

http://www.bom.gov.au/jsp/ncc/cdio/weatherData/av?p_nccObsCode=123&p_display_typ...

"Daytime temperatures were well above average across Sydney during January, with several stations, including Observatory Hill, recording their warmest January on record"

"Minimum temperatures were also record warm across the city, with all Sydney stations recording their warmest January mean temperature on record."

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/current/month/nsw/sydney.shtml#recordsTmaxAvgHigh



Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Lee gets it hopelessly wrong again. (I can't wait to see how he weasels his way out of this one)
Lee you do realise that 18.7 and 25.9 which you have quoted are the average for all years.

The January 2017 average is 29.6 max and 21.6 min
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201701/html/IDCJDW2124.201701.shtml

So yes Sydney has just had it's hottest January on record
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The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 12:41pm:
         
Lee gets it hopelessly wrong again. (I can't wait to see how he weasels his way out of this one)
Lee you do realise that 18.7 and 25.9 which you have quoted are the average for all years.

The January 2017 average is 29.6 max and 21.6 min
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/dwo/201701/html/IDCJDW2124.201701.shtml

So yes Sydney has just had it's hottest January on record


Lee has a Masters in Obfuscation, Mind Clouding, and Misdirection from the Trump university of alternative facts.
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The_Barnacle wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 12:41pm:
Lee you do realise that 18.7 and 25.9 which you have quoted are the average for all years.


You are right.

So according to BoM, and the if their figures are correct the mean is 21.56ºC. And yet their Highest mean temperature is still 21.0ºC. And this is supposed to be a professional outfit, isn't it?

And they're still showing the Highest maximum  monthly mean at 29.5ºC.

So I see that the mean maximum was a whopping 0.1ºC higher, and the Highest minimum monthly mean was 0.6ºC warmer.

See I can admit to my mistakes. The only person who doen't make mistakes is the person who does nothing. Wink
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Lee has a Masters in Obfuscation, Mind Clouding, and Misdirection from the Trump university of alternative facts.


You mean like Hilary got the most votes, Trump is the President? Wink
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Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 6:36am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 4th, 2017 at 12:24am:
They do it to take advantage of the sun. I went to the beach about a month ago, for curiosity sake. It was not all that hot. But I did not spend much time in the sun, whether I was on the beach or at the park.


Some of the guys probably feel it's worth getting roasted on the beach and up for skin cancer in 30 years time just to ogle the girls in their string-bikinis. My own sun-blisters are only just now beginning to collapse and respond to the ointments my doctor has been prescribing for me. 


The scars on my back from all these biopsies must resemble that of Martin Riggs' bullet scars. Martin Riggs from Lethal Weapon movies, I mean. But that does little to discourage me from having outdoor activities. These days, I spend more time indoors during the day, and more time outdoors during the night. I never really have time to put on sunscreen for an outdoor activity. Perhaps I will do more to protect myself from the sun during mowing my massive yard. But, most of the time I do not concern myself with more than a hat and sunglasses for sun protection.

All I know is that there are doctors capable of fixing my situation if the problems get worse.
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NSW is burning up:

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20 mins in the garden. Buggered. My thermo is showing 36
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When ocean currents change the atmospheric currents reflect that change!

The antarctic polar current is tightening and the anti-cyclones off of it don't reach into the country like they used to.

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Records will be rboken this summer as the heat goes on:

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Overnight temperatures in Sydney are not expected to drop below 26 on Sunday night and will reach 34C on Monday in the city.

If temperatures reach over 35C on in Sydney's city on Sunday, it will break a 120-year-old record for the most 35C days in summer, Jacob Cronje, a meteorologist for Weatherzone told Daily Mail Australia.

So far this year has matched the previous record of nine days over 35C in 1896.

Although temperatures reached 34.7C around 12pm, it has not cracked the record, Mr Cronje said.
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The heat goes on breaking records.

https://www.theguardian.com/weather/2017/feb/06/australias-heatwave-some-like-it...

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Records have been broken along the east coast of Australia amid multiple heatwaves which included 11 days when the temperature topped 30C and five days above 35C in Sydney in January. This broke not only all previous records for the month but for any month since records began in 1858.


January was hottest month on record in Sydney and Brisbane, says weather bureau
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The stream of days over 35C is brutal enough, but it is the nights that are driving people quite mad. To butcher TS Eliot:

I have seen the mercury of my thermometer flicker,

And I have seen the eternal footman hold my sheets drenched in sweat at 3am, and snicker,

And in short, I was too hot.

These days I arrive at work at 6am covered in sweat. I have been lucky to sleep more than four hours at a time. I have given shelter to my friend who has no air conditioning and we have all camped in my living room on the night it was 35C at 1am. I have seen babies being held up to air conditioning vents for relief. I have gone swimming in the harbour at 9pm (that was actually quite nice).

Other Guardian Australia staff have found themselves at the end of their tether as well.

My normally quite sound environmental ethics have been thrown out the window – wound down only for this purpose because I have the air conditioning on full blast, obviously. I leave the air conditioning on all day and night, with the fan on to boot. I drive in an air-conditioned car to the air-conditioned Westfield shopping centre where I make meaningless purchases, all the while being angry that this heat must be a real boon for the expensive shops in Westfield. I skip yoga class because it’s too hot to go, I can’t go to the beach because it’s too hot, I just lie about in bed because the bedroom is the only room in the house with air conditioning. I am generally quite cranky. Spending hours on end contemplating the irony of climate change causing this heat while making it worse with my non-stop air conditioning is just generally doing my head in. When will it end? – Gabrielle Jackson

...

The heat broke me and I ran the air conditioner all night for the first time ever. I don’t feel good about this but it’s now 24C inside the house and I intend not to go outside ever. It makes me worry that my commitment not to waste energy is compromised so easily.

But an old tip we used to employ when I was a kid and didn’t have the option of wasting power on air conditioning and didn’t have a pool was to have a large bucket of water in the bath that we would periodically walk up to and dunk our entire heads into. That was actually really refreshing. – Miles Martignoni
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The heat is going to stay until Sunday at least:

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/more-to-come-as-states-fight-to-beat...

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The town of Moree near the Queensland border has recorded 41 consecutive summer days of 35C or more, smashing the previous record of 17 consecutive days in the summer of 1981-82.

Sydney also got close to breaking a 120-year-old record yesterday for the most summer days over 35C since 1896, but the mercury rose only to 34.9C.

“There’s still 23 days of summer left and next Sunday the forecast is for a top of 36C so there’s still time yet to break that record,” said Bureau of Meteorology duty forecaster Zach Porter. Temperatures in Sydney had already soared over 30C by 9.30am and Sydney’s west sweltered through 40C temperatures at Bankstown and Penrith.

The heat will continue today with temperatures in Canberra, Brisbane and Sydney reaching the mid-30s until a cooler change in the afternoon. Uncomfortable conditions will return late in the week though, with the temperature expected again to climb into the 40s by Saturday.

“February is likely to be drier than normal and the maximum temperatures are likely to be warmer than average as well, so we’re well on our way to breaking more records” Mr Porter said.
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Reply #385 - Feb 7th, 2017 at 5:48am
 
It was 13 degrees this morning in Melbourne.

Is this summer?
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Its oofficial. January 2017 was Sydney's warmest month.

https://www.broadsheet.com.au/sydney/city-file/article/sydney-its-looking-hottes...

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This January’s average temperature sits at 29.2 degrees, far above the overall January average (since 1859) of 25.9 degrees. It seems above-average summer temperatures have become a way of life in Sydney.



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Sydney in January 2017: the warmest month on record
January 2017 was the warmest on record for Sydney. Every station in the metropolitan area recorded its highest January mean temperature on record and most stations (including Sydney Observatory Hill) also broke records for mean maximum and minimum temperatures. Record-high numbers of warm nights and the equal-fewest cool days were recorded at Sydney Observatory Hill, while stations in western Sydney experienced record numbers of 40 °C days. Rainfall was below average across the city.

A very hot January
Daytime temperatures were well above average across Sydney during January, with several stations, including Observatory Hill, recording their warmest January on record.

At Observatory Hill, the January mean temperature of 25.6 °C was the highest on record for any month

Minimum temperatures were also record warm across the city, with all Sydney stations recording their warmest January mean temperature on record

At Observatory Hill, eleven days reached 30 °C (average 3 days) and five days reached 35 °C  (average 1 day), in both cases the second-highest number on record behind January 1896

Only three days failed to reach 25 °C, the equal-fewest on record with January 1994 (average 13 days)

In western Sydney, Richmond recorded seven days above 40 °C and Parramatta recorded five days above 40 °C, breaking the records set in January 2003

Five nights remained above 24 °C, more than double the previous record of 2 hot nights in 2010, with 25 nights remaining above 20 °C, the highest number on record (average 9 nights)

Several stations recorded their warmest January night on record on either the 14th, 18th, or 31st

Temperatures were particularly warm at Observatory Hill on the morning of the 18th, with record-warm temperatures of 31.2 °C at 6am and 36.5 °C at 9am
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Its oofficial. January 2017 was Sydney's warmest month.

https://www.broadsheet.com.au/sydney/city-file/article/sydney-its-looking-hottes...

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This January’s average temperature sits at 29.2 degrees, far above the overall January average (since 1859) of 25.9 degrees. It seems above-average summer temperatures have become a way of life in Sydney.



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Sydney in January 2017: the warmest month on record
January 2017 was the warmest on record for Sydney. Every station in the metropolitan area recorded its highest January mean temperature on record and most stations (including Sydney Observatory Hill) also broke records for mean maximum and minimum temperatures. Record-high numbers of warm nights and the equal-fewest cool days were recorded at Sydney Observatory Hill, while stations in western Sydney experienced record numbers of 40 °C days. Rainfall was below average across the city.

A very hot January
Daytime temperatures were well above average across Sydney during January, with several stations, including Observatory Hill, recording their warmest January on record.

At Observatory Hill, the January mean temperature of 25.6 °C was the highest on record for any month

Minimum temperatures were also record warm across the city, with all Sydney stations recording their warmest January mean temperature on record

At Observatory Hill, eleven days reached 30 °C (average 3 days) and five days reached 35 °C  (average 1 day), in both cases the second-highest number on record behind January 1896

Only three days failed to reach 25 °C, the equal-fewest on record with January 1994 (average 13 days)

In western Sydney, Richmond recorded seven days above 40 °C and Parramatta recorded five days above 40 °C, breaking the records set in January 2003

Five nights remained above 24 °C, more than double the previous record of 2 hot nights in 2010, with 25 nights remaining above 20 °C, the highest number on record (average 9 nights)

Several stations recorded their warmest January night on record on either the 14th, 18th, or 31st

Temperatures were particularly warm at Observatory Hill on the morning of the 18th, with record-warm temperatures of 31.2 °C at 6am and 36.5 °C at 9am
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How sad. Wink
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... another scorcher is on the way:

"... Richmond’s February temperature record currently sits at 43.7 degrees. Mr Sharpe said there is a “good chance” that record will be surpassed on Saturday."
Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/02/08/09/16/sydney-could-face-its-hottest-...

http://m.gladstoneobserver.com.au/news/welcome-to-hell-on-earth-in-australia/314...

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THE next few days are going to be unbearable for large swathes of the country as an extreme heatwave sees temperatures soar.

Parts of Queensland, New South Wales, South Australia and Victoria are expected to cop it the worst for the next four to five days, with temperatures predicted in the high 30s to possibly mid-40 degree mark.

The dire forecast saw the website of the popular weather tracker Higgins Storm Chasing crash overnight, as tens of thousands of social media users tried to get as much information as they could.

The looming spikes in temperature is also backed up by Bureau of Meteorology predictions for across regional Queensland New South Wales: see photo gallery below.

At the time of writing, it has nearly 23,000 shares, 10,000 likes and saw over 200,000 website views over the course of 20 minutes - it's clear people are concerned.


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lee wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 3:55pm:
How sad. Wink


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Unforgiven wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:33am:
THE next few days are going to be unbearable for large swathes of the country as an extreme heatwave sees temperatures soar.

Parts of Queensland, New South Wales, South Australia and Victoria are expected to cop it the worst for the next four to five days, with temperatures predicted in the high 30s to possibly mid-40 degree mark.



Wow. High 30's to mid-40's is UNBEARABLE. What a bunch of pansies.
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lee wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 3:55pm:
How sad. Wink


Cry me a river.



Too busy pissing myself laughing. Wink
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lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:18pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:36am:
lee wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 3:55pm:
How sad. Wink


Cry me a river.


Too busy pissing myself laughing. Wink


That's an unconventional way of cooling off.
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Unforgiven wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:28pm:
lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:18pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:36am:
lee wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 3:55pm:
How sad. Wink


Cry me a river.


Too busy pissing myself laughing. Wink


That's an unconventional way of cooling off.


I heard you like golden showers.
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Reply #396 - Feb 8th, 2017 at 4:37pm
 
So far, this summer, it has not (quite) reached 40 degrees. That is a rarity for Rockhampton. I think that it has to do with how hot it gets in north-west Western Australia. Hot over there? Then it gets hot over here.
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lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:39pm:
I heard you like golden showers.



so you volunteered?  Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Bobby. wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 5:48am:
It was 13 degrees this morning in Melbourne.

Is this summer?

No one cares about Melbourne: the wogs can have it!
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lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:39pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:28pm:
lee wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 12:18pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 11:36am:
lee wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 3:55pm:
How sad. Wink


Cry me a river.


Too busy pissing myself laughing. Wink


That's an unconventional way of cooling off.


I heard you like golden showers.


As a donor, not a recipient.
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Unforgiven wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 5:27pm:
As a donor, not a recipient.



The rumours must be wrong then. Wink
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Unforgiven wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 5:27pm:
As a donor, not a recipient.


The rumours must be wrong then. Wink


It is more satisfying to give than to receive. I will award frequent fly points to denizen lee with each delivery.
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It was 13 degrees this morning in Melbourne.

Is this summer?


Canadians will love it. They start wearing shorts when the temperature gets above minus 5oC.
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Bobby. wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 5:48am:
It was 13 degrees this morning in Melbourne.

Is this summer?


Canadians will love it. They start wearing shorts when the temperature gets above minus 5oC.



It is hot today in Melbourne.
It reached 35.
I've got the aircon on.

It will be a minimum 25 overnight but then it gets better by Saturday:

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml

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Bobby. wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 7:05pm:
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Bobby. wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 5:48am:
It was 13 degrees this morning in Melbourne.

Is this summer?


Canadians will love it. They start wearing shorts when the temperature gets above minus 5oC.



It is hot today in Melbourne.
It reached 35.
I've got the aircon on.

It will be a minimum 25 overnight but then it gets better by Saturday:

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml



You hope.
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Unforgiven wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 7:15pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 7:05pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 8th, 2017 at 6:37pm:
Bobby. wrote on Feb 7th, 2017 at 5:48am:
It was 13 degrees this morning in Melbourne.

Is this summer?


Canadians will love it. They start wearing shorts when the temperature gets above minus 5oC.



It is hot today in Melbourne.
It reached 35.
I've got the aircon on.

It will be a minimum 25 overnight but then it gets better by Saturday:

http://www.bom.gov.au/vic/forecasts/melbourne.shtml



You hope.



Just look at the forecast - Monday will be a nice 19 degrees top temperature.
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Bobby's idol is:

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-09/australia-south-and-east-sweltering-throug...

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Key points:

Much of Victoria to experience mid-40s heat but cool change expected for Melbourne
Adelaide to hit 42C again, Tarcoola in SA to reach 47C
Students in SW Queensland kept indoors, heatwave to intensify in NSW towards weekend
Parts of Australia's south and east will swelter through 40-plus temperatures today as severe heatwave conditions continue to develop.

The Bureau of Meteorology says a severe heatwave is moving through the southern parts of South Australia and much of Victoria, while spreading further east into New South Wales' coastal regions and south-west Queensland.

Temperatures are tipped to soar to 44 degrees Celsius in northern Victoria, which is anticipating several days of extreme heat.

Mildura and Swan Hill are expected to reach 44C today, prompting fire bans and heat health warnings for the Mallee and Wimmera regions.

There is also a total fire ban in the Central region and heat warnings for East Gippsland.

It will only be slightly cooler in Melbourne with a forecast maximum of 37C the Victorian capital's hottest day of the season so far.

The Bureau of Meteorology maps areas that are expected to have unusually hot conditions over a period of three days.
A cool change for Melbourne will arrive in the afternoon, but the weather bureau's Dr Chris Godfred says the hot air is expected to hang around the north of the state well into the weekend.

"Albury's expecting a top of 43C Friday and then 40C, 41C along the Murray River during Saturday," he said.

"The air mass is quite humid. It's going to limit the degree of cooling. Conditions as we try to sleep, especially Thursday night, [are] going to be quite stifling."

Firefighters have spent the night monitoring hot spots after a grassfire at Diggers Rest, in Melbourne's north west.

While the fire is under control, authorities have issued an advice message for residents in Diggers Rest and Calder Park to monitor conditions.

Firefighters have also brought a bushfire under control overnight at Amphitheatre, near Lexton, in the state's west.

The heatwave in New South Wales is expected to reach severe and extreme levels towards the weekend.

Parts of SA push towards 50 degrees Celsius

South Australia is in for a second hot and muggy day with the temperature in Adelaide expected to hit 42C again today, and Tarcoola in the state's north tipped to reach 47C.

The mercury in Adelaide hit 42.4C yesterday and senior forecaster Tom Boeck says inland areas will remain hot and sticky today.

He says the state will not see much relief from the heat until late on Saturday or early on Sunday.

"Certainly it will be feeling quite humid today with moisture still pushing down from the north," he said.

"Unfortunately the evap aircon like I have won't be working too well today, but hopefully in the overnight period they'll be functioning a bit better with the temperatures coming down a touch."
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Did you sleep well Bobby?

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NSW at risk of blackouts due to widespread heat in the state.

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[quote]Summer heatwave: Urgent demand for power in NSW to avoid blackouts as temperatures across the country climb into 40s

Four states are bracing for some of the hottest temperatures of the entire summer, as a potentially record-breaking heatwave sweeps across South Australia, New South Wales, Queensland and Victoria over the next three days. 

New South Wales

With temperatures tomorrow excepted to reach 35C in the city and 40C in the west, an urgent request has been issued by the Australian Energy Markets Operator (AEMO) for additional electricity to avoid rolling power outages.

The AEMO this morning issued a market request for additional power tomorrow between 3pm and 5pm, saying that its calculations indicated the supply could drop to zero megawatts.

A spokeswoman for AEMO told 9news.com.au they would issue further information on the possible power shortage this afternoon.

On Saturday inner-NSW will sweat through temperatures in the mid-40s, Weatherzone senior meteorologist Brett Dutschke said.

Both Tibooburra and Fowlers Gap in far northwest NSW experienced their hottest days in three years yesterday, with maximum temperatures of 45.6C and 45.1C respectively.

Residents in Broken Hill suffered through the town’s hottest day in five years, with the mercury hitting 43.6C.

The sizzling temperatures are expected to last through the weekend, with a cool change not predicted until late Sunday afternoon.

The intense heat comes after thunderstorms soaked Sydney with half a month's worth of rain on Tuesday, causing flash flooding, property damage, several flood rescues and evacuations.

Farmer Cameron Cox, 22, was killed after being struck by lightning while checking livestock at a family property in the state's central west during a freak storm in the area.

The rollercoaster summer weather comes after Sydney recorded its hottest January ever with the average maximum temperature last month at 29.6C.

The demand to keep cool took its toll on the power network last night, with 40,000 Adelaide homes left in the dark for 45 minutes.

Victoria

A health alert has been issued for residents in Victoria ahead of severe heatwave conditions, with temperatures expected to climb to 44C in the north of the state, including East Gippsland, Mallee, North Central, Northern Country, North East and Wimmera regions.

State Health Commander Paul Holman urged Victorians to be prepared for the hot weather by making sure they were hydrated and watching their alcohol intake in the heat.

"Heat is one of the biggest impacts on our communities," Mr Holman said.

"There are simple precautions everyone can take to minimise the impact of heat, such as reduce your activity, stay hydrated, check on family and friends and never leave kids or pets in hot cars."

The state is bracing for increased fire risks, as hot weather combines with strong winds. A severe fire danger rating is in place for the Mallee, Wimmera and Northern Country and very high to high fire danger ratings are in place for the rest of the state.

State Response Controller Steve Warrington said total fire bans have been declared in the Mallee, Wimmera and Central districts, with a focus on the significant grassland risk around Melbourne.

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" I'm not saying its hot, but ...."

So in other words you ARE saying it's hot. Wink
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lee wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 5:22pm:
" I'm not saying its hot, but ...."

So in other words you ARE saying it's hot. Wink


You're putting words in my mouth but not my keyboard. You lack synchronism.
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Firstborn has a huge weekend of sport and it's going to be in the 40s.

I'm going to fill the esky with ice and make everyone icepacks.
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Unforgiven wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 5:45pm:
lee wrote on Feb 9th, 2017 at 5:22pm:
" I'm not saying its hot, but ...."

So in other words you ARE saying it's hot. Wink


You're putting words in my mouth .


Just be thankful that Sir Booby isn't here.

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Just got this, never seen before.

Dear Parents & Carers

An alert has been sent out by the Executive Director of health & safety within the Department of Education regarding tomorrow's heatwave conditions. As a result all PSSA and School sport has been cancelled.
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Reply #414 - Feb 10th, 2017 at 9:44am
 

15 degrees in Perth at the moment.

Wettest summer day ever.

About 120 mm of rain, and still coming down.

Roads flooded, power out, ceilings collapsing.

http://www.weatherzone.com.au/wa/perth/perth

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We only got 75mm to 0900.
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Geraldton monthly record in 7 hours.
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... 2014, 2015, 2016 was a string of three consecutive hottest years. This is unprecedented.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/jan/2...

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According to Nasa, in 2016 the Earth’s surface temperature shattered the previous record for hottest year by 0.12°C. That record was set in 2015, which broke the previous record by 0.13°C. That record had been set in 2014, beating out 2010, which in turn had broken the previous record set in 2005.

If you think that seems like a lot of record-breaking hot years, you’re right. The streak of three consecutive record hot years is unprecedented since measurements began in 1880. In the 35 years between 1945 and 1979, there were no record-breakers. In the 37 years since 1980, there have been 12. The video below illustrates all of the record-breaking years in the Nasa global surface temperature record since 1880.
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lee wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 11:25am:
We only got 75mm to 0900.


Size isn't everything.

You can blame it on the weather, not AGW.
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Unforgiven wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 2:36pm:
. 2014, 2015, 2016 was a string of three consecutive hottest years. This is unprecedented.



Don't forget that they use the Karlised temperatures among the other adjustments.

The karlised temperatures that are now busted. Wink
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Oh and don't forget 1997 temperature was 62.45ºF according to NOAA. Something that hasn't been achieved in the 21st century. Wink
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Unforgiven wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 2:37pm:
lee wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 11:25am:
We only got 75mm to 0900.


Size isn't everything.

You can blame it on the weather, not AGW.


Yep. It is weather. Although AGW theory says it will rain more, less or stay the same.

"There is no chance that rainfall in Australia will remain the same as the climate warms," he said.

"With two degrees of global warming, Australia is stuck with either more aridity, much heavier extreme rains, or some combination of the two."

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/more-rain-on-the-horizon-as-climate-change-aff...

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Just drove back to the Central Coast from Newcastle.

The temp gauge for outside temperature hit 45 deg.

This gauge is usually quite accurate, so I believe it is right.

Turning off the freeway to Wyong the temp dropped to 38 and closer to the coast 34.

I can only Imagine what it would be like further west like Singleton or places like that.

But even so, in a few months everyone will be complaining about it being soooooo cold
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More frequent droughts and floods?

No more regular, consistent weather patterns?
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No more regular, consistent weather patterns?



Droughts and floods are consistent weather patterns in Australia. Just not predictable. Wink
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Valkie wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 2:48pm:
Just drove back to the Central Coast from Newcastle.

The temp gauge for outside temperature hit 45 deg.

This gauge is usually quite accurate, so I believe it is right.

Turning off the freeway to Wyong the temp dropped to 38 and closer to the coast 34.

I can only Imagine what it would be like further west like Singleton or places like that.

But even so, in a few months everyone will be complaining about it being soooooo cold


Just imagine all the people heading for the service stations to fill up. All because they have to have their windows up and air conditioning on during those drives.
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... everybody else is.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/environment/weather-forecast-sydney-brisbane-a...

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It is now officially the hottest summer in Sydney’s 158 year recorded history — with 10 summer days over 35C, according to BOM.


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ooooh, scary weather. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Valkie wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 2:48pm:
Just drove back to the Central Coast from Newcastle.

The temp gauge for outside temperature hit 45 deg.

This gauge is usually quite accurate, so I believe it is right.

Turning off the freeway to Wyong the temp dropped to 38 and closer to the coast 34.

I can only Imagine what it would be like further west like Singleton or places like that.

But even so, in a few months everyone will be complaining about it being soooooo cold


In have some family in the west subs  (suckshitt) and they've had 45 all day. It's been exactly 10deg cooler all day. In the last hr a lovely breeze has come thru and it about 24. Meh
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Coldest day ever in Perth, and wettest day ever.

19 at the moment, streets are flooded, and they've just issued a warning that the Swan River is about to overflow.

Cool   Smiley
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Wow an amazing fog has blown in, better than aircon
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Seriously looking at this...
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
Seriously looking at this...

Lap it up, how much coal have you burnt today, do you think your contribution to green house gasses have zero effect, a neutral effect or a positive effect on my planet, time for nuclear until something less damaging to our lungs comes along.
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Johnnie wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 8:44pm:
Lap it up, how much coal have you burnt today, do you think your contribution to green house gasses have zero effect, a neutral effect or a positive effect on my planet, time for nuclear until something less damaging to our lungs comes along.



They say dung fires in poor countries are popular. Wink
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
Seriously looking at this...


I usually think that sort of weather during the winter's here. Could you teleport all that snow up to my backyard?
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I'm making some good use of this hot weather.

I have a set of chairs in my informal dining room, the one where I stick kids for parties etc. They're really nice but they're white and covered in stains from kids spilling spag bol on them. I also have a amazingly  comfy big white armchair that I demoted to my office/rumpas that is in desperate need of a clean.

Yesterday I dragged them out to the deck, sprayed them with 3 different cleaning fluids, scrubbed them and then hit them with the pressure washer. They're like new now.  The chairs were dry by yesterday and the armchair looks like it's just about dry now.
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Johnnie wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 8:44pm:
Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 10th, 2017 at 8:37pm:
Seriously looking at this...

Lap it up, how much coal have you burnt today, do you think your contribution to green house gasses have zero effect, a neutral effect or a positive effect on my planet, time for nuclear until something less damaging to our lungs comes along.



Yes the good people of Fukushima are so relieved that they had nuclear power
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... ABC is:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-11/nsw-fire-conditions-worse-than-black-satur...

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Records smashed across NSW

The highest temperature in the state on Saturday was Ivanhoe at 47.6C; the highest record for anywhere in NSW was recorded in 1939 at 49.7C.

There were many records broken across the state:

Penrith on Saturday reached 46.9C, beating its previous record of 46.5C;
Forbes recorded 45.5C, with its previous record only 44C;
Williamtown also reached 45.5C after a previous high of 44.7C.


On Sunday, conditions would intensify in centres including Dubbo, Coonabarabran and Narrabri in the north through to the Hunter Valley and the coast at Port Stephens.

The Bureau of Meteorology said very hot conditions associated with the mass of air, combined with fresh westerly winds over the southern half of the state, meant severe fire danger throughout Saturday for the Central and Southern ranges, Lower Central West and Hunter districts.

The monster hot air mass hovering over NSW had had "a baking effect" on vegetation, which meant extreme warnings would pose major risks.

Mr Fitzsimmons urged people to prepare early and stay out of danger by spending time at the movies or a local shopping centre.

The Australian Market Energy Operator said NSW faced a possible lack of power supply on Saturday afternoon, with the risk increasing into the evening.

AGL cut back on electricity use in the afternoon at its Tomago Aluminium Smelter in Newcastle, which uses about 10 per cent of the state's power.
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Reply #441 - Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:46pm
 
People who don't want to believe in climate change seem to hang their hat on the difference between weather and climate which is just babble. The reality is it is just the difference between a short term and long term view.

If the weather is consistently hotter it will reflect in climate and vice-versa.

An interesting thought is looking at the current heat wave and considering this in terms of the expected 30 year result in climate.

This weekend of 40 ++ degree temperatures in the projected world will be normal. In 30 years if climate change progresses the days of this weekend would be considered as normal summers days.

The problem really presents itself when you consider what a hot summers day may be like or an extremely hot summers period ??

It is very likely that our children will have to face this.


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... Australia was the hottest place on the planet today.

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http://nofibs.com.au/heatwave-makes-australia-hottest-place-on-planet-with-catas...

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Australia is currently the hottest place on the planet with the heatwave in SE Australia according to the Climate Reanalyzer site for Saturday 11 February. And last year (2016) was the hottest year on the planet in recorded history, following two previous years which also set the record.

As heat temperature records tumbled in south east Australia in the heatwave, catastrophic fireweather conditions were being experienced on Sunday over a wide region from Port Stephens in the Hunter Region, Tablelands and the Central West region of New South Wales. These conditions are categorized as a greater danger than the Victorian Black Saturday bushfires of 2009 which killed 173 people directly in the bushfires and 374 excess deaths due to the heatwave.

We have an energy crisis with load shedding ocurring in South Australia on Wednesday (that needn’t have occurred), and load shedding in NSW on Friday and Saturday with the Tomago Aluminium plant being ordered to curtail production and energy use.

But what you will find largely absent in the media and comments by politicians on the heatwave is any reference to climate change which is an essential driving factor of more intense heatwave conditions and catastrophic fireweather.

The mining and burning of coal is a large contributor to greenhouse gas emissions and needs to be phased out in an orderly way to meet our international commitments on climate change. The only ‘but’ would be if carbon capture and storage (CCS) was developed at scale and at reasonable cost, and I don’t see enough research and investment to make this happen in a realistic timeframe.

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Catastrophic fireweather warned
RFS Fire Commissioner Shane Fitzsimmons warned about conditions for Sunday at a Saturday press briefing:

“The conditions for Sunday are the worst possible conditions when it comes to fire ratings. They are catastrophic, they are labelled catastrophic for a reason, … and to put it simply they are off the old conventional scale. We used to stop our fire danger ratings at 100, but we are talking about indices up over 150, 160 tomorrow which is quite extraordinary. We haven’t seen this in NSW to this extent, ever.”

Big words, and an emphasis that the fire conditions are worse than Victoria’s Black Saturday conditions of 2009.

“This is simply not a safe environment which is why we are making it very clear to people that the only safe place to be is not in those risk areas particularly in these extreme and catastrophic regions of NSW tomorrow. We simply cannot guarantee that a fire truck will be at every home or property under these conditions. We cannot guarantee that aircraft will knock down these fires and let firefighters gain the upper hand. We cannot guarantee that a warning, a telephone message, a knock at the door will occurr for everyone that comes under threat tomorrow.”

Health in extreme heat
Dominic Morgan from the NSW Ambulance service highlighted that in the previous 24 hours there have been a number of near drownings, and 20 children or animals rescued from cars. This has necessitated increased activity of the ambulance service, but it is currently responding well. He emphasised the need to take care of elderly and ensure they are in a cool or well ventilated place. And for everyone to keep up the hydration.

“Clinically diagnosed heat stroke is a potentially life threatening condition. It can be characterised by severe dehydration, delirium, persistently high temperatures, unconsciousness and even fitting.”

His principal message was to Check on your neighbours, check on your friends, check on your family.

Underscoring his message is the fact that extreme heat is a silent killer responsible for more deaths than any other natural cause, including bushfires. I raised in October 2014: Are we mitigating the health risk of worsening heatwaves due to climate change?

Temperature records broken on Saturday
By mid Saturday several records had been broken, according to Steven Elliott of the Bureau of Meteorology. These included:

stretch of 10 days > 35C in Sydney, previous record was 9 days
2 days above 40C in Canberra an equaling record in 1968 and 2009
NSW highest minimum temperature record broken at Whitecliffs with 34.2C. Past record 33.3C at Tibbooburra in 1915
Further records likely to be broken in coming days
Penrith reached 46.9 C on Saturday setting a new record. Previous hottest 46.5 C on 18 Jan 2013.


An update on temperatures and weather conditions from the BOM on Sunday afternoon:
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I can believe that, I was there! Grin
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Setanta wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 7:58pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 6:43pm:
... Australia was the hottest place on the planet today.



I can believe that, I was there! Grin


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Gordon wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 8:17pm:
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... Australia was the hottest place on the planet today.



I can believe that, I was there! Grin


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Reply #447 - Feb 13th, 2017 at 6:46pm
 
Rockhampton was scheduled for 42 degrees today. Escaped that heat because of rain last night and cloud cover during the morning.
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Reply #448 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 1:27pm
 
... there was a deadlier heat wave in 1896:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4221366/Heatwave-January-1896-hit-49-deg...

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And you thought it was hot now? How a 24-DAY heatwave on Australia's east coast in January 1896 saw temperatures climb to 49 degrees and killed 437 people

    An extreme 24-day heatwave in January 1896 saw temperatures hit 48C
    It saw people fleeing cities and killed 437 people including many children
    The maximum temperature was above 38.9 degrees for over three weeks
    Hospitals were overcrowded and people were dropping dead in the streets

Temperatures above 38 degrees for nearly a month, bushfires burning across the country and people dropping dead in the streets.

This was the grim reality of a 24-day heatwave which killed 437 people in Australia in January 1896.

The extreme weather event was described as feeling 'like a furnace' and recorded much higher temperatures than the east coast is set to swelter through this week.

An extreme Australian heatwave in January 1896 killed over 400 people and hospitalised many more.

A heatwave across Australia's east coast at the weekend has been described as one of the worst in living memory

A heatwave across Australia's east coast at the weekend has been described as one of the worst in living memory
Many children were among those who died

There were temperatures above 119F (48C)

Newspapers at the time reported temperatures above 119F (48C), and that many children were among those who died

It was a hot start to 1896 and by January 14, newspapers were reporting people were dying from a range of complications brought on by the extreme temperatures.

By the third week of the year, 12 infants had died from heat-related illnesses in Goulburn, NSW, alone, a report on JoNova about the heatwave revealed.

People were fleeing the cities on trains to seek refuge in the mountainous regions of the country, and one child escaping the heat 'died at the moment the train arrived'.

Hospitals were at breaking point, and the death toll was rising.

By January 17 the mercury had climbed to 48.9C in Bourke, in north-west NSW. However there has been some dispute about the accuracy in temperature recordings due to changing methods over time.

'The hospital is crowded, and a number of people are dangerously ill. More deaths are hourly expected,' a newspaper article from January 18, 1896 read.

The heat was sending people 'insane', leaving them helplessly wandering the streets before collapsing.

Cattle died by the hundreds, water tanks dried up and the death toll continued to rise as the heatwave entered its fourth week.

The historic heatwave saw temperatures climb to 49 degrees and forced people to flee to the mountains in search of reprieve.

The historic heatwave saw temperatures climb to 49 degrees and forced people to flee to the mountains in search of reprieve.

At the weekend the regional town of Urarby in NSW's central-west was wiped out by bushfires

Trains leaving Sydney's west for the mountains were packed and the government ran extra services at discount prices for those seeking relief from the heat.

By January 24 the heatwave was declared 'an unprecedented record', and the death toll in Bourke alone had risen to 35.

'The residents are really panic-stricken, and hundreds are leaving for cooler climates', one report in the newspaper revealed.

Most businesses across NSW had closed their doors by this point, except for hotels, as residents laid low waiting for the streak to break.

In other parts of the country temperatures had not dropped below 37 degrees since late 1895.

More than 120 years later, Sydney and other parts of Australia sweated through one of the worst heatwaves in living memory last week, recording four days over 40 degrees.
The 1896 heatwave saw people dropping dead in the streets as the stifling heat stretched on for 24 days. In Bourke (seen here in 1893) temperatures were nudging 50C

There were widespread blackouts, bushfires continue to burn around the country, and while this week will bring temporary reprieve, the mercury is set to climb once again.

About 60 fires were still burning on Monday night, including 19 uncontained blazes, and a Watch and Act alert remained in place for the Sir Ivan fire in central west NSW.

Despite a relief for NSW residents, hot temperatures are set to climb again from Wednesday, with a top of 28C forecast for Sydney before reaching 34C by Saturday.

Western suburbs are expected to endure a three-day heatwave, with temperatures set to soar 38C from Thursday.

Meanwhile, heavy rain, strong winds and hailstorm hit southeast of Queensland overnight.

More than 20,000 homes across the state have been left without power as damaging winds and heavy rainfall continue to move east.
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Reply #449 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 1:33pm
 
... more on the 1896 heat wave.

The current heat wave is not yet over and there is a chance that the heating of the interior will eventually translate into a Perth heat wave.

http://joannenova.com.au/2012/11/extreme-heat-in-1896-panic-stricken-people-fled...
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Reply #450 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 1:55pm
 
BoM says you can't trust temperature data before 1910. Wink
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Reply #451 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 9:14pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:46pm:
People who don't want to believe in climate change seem to hang their hat on the difference between weather and climate which is just babble. The reality is it is just the difference between a short term and long term view.

If the weather is consistently hotter it will reflect in climate and vice-versa.

An interesting thought is looking at the current heat wave and considering this in terms of the expected 30 year result in climate.

This weekend of 40 ++ degree temperatures in the projected world will be normal. In 30 years if climate change progresses the days of this weekend would be considered as normal summers days.

The problem really presents itself when you consider what a hot summers day may be like or an extremely hot summers period ??

It is very likely that our children will have to face this.



tHE HEAT SINKS WILL GET IT FIRST,.... it's called hysterisis and the propaganda artists still rule because of it....until the makets shake that is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #452 - Feb 14th, 2017 at 9:15pm
 
Dnarever wrote on Feb 12th, 2017 at 12:46pm:
People who don't want to believe in climate change seem to hang their hat on the difference between weather and climate which is just babble. The reality is it is just the difference between a short term and long term view.

If the weather is consistently hotter it will reflect in climate and vice-versa.

An interesting thought is looking at the current heat wave and considering this in terms of the expected 30 year result in climate.

This weekend of 40 ++ degree temperatures in the projected world will be normal. In 30 years if climate change progresses the days of this weekend would be considered as normal summers days.

The problem really presents itself when you consider what a hot summers day may be like or an extremely hot summers period ??

It is very likely that our children will have to face this.



tHE HEAT SINKS WILL GET IT FIRST,.... it's called hysterisis and the propaganda artists still rule because of it....until the makets shake that is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply #453 - Feb 16th, 2017 at 9:13pm
 
Even in the Northern hemisphere temperatures are abnormal. "Last Friday, the North Pole was 50F above normal as warm tropical air descended in the area above 80 latitude, the Arctic Circle."

Summer's not over yet.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/heatwaves-australia-to-the-north-pole_us_58a...

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The unintended consequences of pumping heat-trapping carbon dioxide into the atmosphere 10 times faster than the previous 66 million years are heatwaves.

Heatwaves in Australia are becoming hotter by 1.8 to 3.6F, longer from three days to more than six days and more frequent. All Australian capital cities, where the majority of the people live, are at risk from the increasing severity and intensity of heatwaves and catastrophic firestorms.

It’s not just the elderly, children and outdoor workers who are at immediate risk. The latest massive heatwave that spread across huge swathes of eastern Australia killed thousands of flying foxes. From Adelaide, South Australia, to North Coast, New South Wales, these exquisite pollinators and insectivores fell out of trees and perished from heat exhaustion.

According to my colleague Dr Sarah Perkins-Fitzpatrick at the University of New South Wales, Sydney: “Usually you would only get this kind of extreme heat if it was an El Nino summer. The most recent El Nino phenomenon ended in mid 2016.”

Man-made heat, infused into the oceans from climate-altering fossil fuels, has doubled since 1997. That’s the equivalent energy of detonating one atomic Hiroshima-style bomb every second for 75 straight years.

Last Friday, the North Pole was 50F above normal as warm tropical air descended in the area above 80 latitude, the Arctic Circle. It’s the third heatwave this winter. In the past, Arctic heatwaves have been recorded once or twice a decade. The Arctic was missing a staggering area of sea ice in January. It’s a record-breaking area, equivalent to roughly two times the size of France.

The exposed Arctic Ocean is pumping latent heat into the polar atmosphere, which in part, is affecting the polar jet stream as it is meandering farther south than normal. In December 2015, that wandering polar jet stream was implicated in torrential flooding in the UK, the worst on record.

This year, extreme weather brought floods and frost into Spain’s Murcia Region that supplies approximately 80 percent of certain types of produce to the UK during the winter. Fields of millions of lettuce, broccoli, zucchinis and eggplant were ruined. As a result, the UK experienced shortages on some supermarket shelves, causing the price of romaine lettuce to soar by 300 percent.

Meanwhile in the US, a strong Pacific jet stream dropping mega amounts of precipitation onto California and stressing its aging dams, i.e. Oroville, has also been shoving mild Pacific air down slope onto the Southern Rockies and eastward across the lower half of the nation. Over the weekend, temperatures in some parts of America resembled those of July rather than February. On Friday, Denver, Colorado: 80F, Saturday, Magnum, Oklahoma: 99F, and Sunday, Norfolk, Virginia: 82F.

Trees (including food-bearing trees and shrubs) from New Mexico to Virginia and southward to the Gulf of Mexico responded by flowering and leafing three weeks ahead of time. They are now at risk for frost damage, which could jeopardize the US fall food supply.

Heatwaves and other extreme weather as well as dying honeybees are a wake-up call for global food security.

It’s time to end all fossil fuel subsidies immediately and follow China’s $370 billion (USD) investment in creating 13 million new jobs in the renewable energy sector.

The only way to contend with the climate in crisis is to tackle it head on. Not to subsidize the biggest, wealthiest polluters to hasten the planet’s demise.

At the end of the day, it’s about survival and preventing our planet from becoming inhospitable. We require 80 percent renewable energies by 2030 and 100 percent by 2050.
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Reply #454 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:39am
 
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 9:13pm:
Even in the Northern hemisphere temperatures are abnormal. "Last Friday, the North Pole was 50F above normal as warm tropical air descended in the area above 80 latitude, the Arctic Circle."



The whole of the Arctic? How did they measure that?  Was it above or below zero?
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Reply #455 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:02pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:39am:
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 9:13pm:
Even in the Northern hemisphere temperatures are abnormal. "Last Friday, the North Pole was 50F above normal as warm tropical air descended in the area above 80 latitude, the Arctic Circle."



The whole of the Arctic? How did they measure that?  Was it above or below zero?


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Reply #456 - Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:51pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 10:39am:
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 9:13pm:
Even in the Northern hemisphere temperatures are abnormal. "Last Friday, the North Pole was 50F above normal as warm tropical air descended in the area above 80 latitude, the Arctic Circle."



The whole of the Arctic? How did they measure that?  Was it above or below zero?

You can't measure the whole of anything  Shocked That is why everything is related to a model: a ruler is a model!!
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TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
That is why everything is related to a model: a ruler is a model!!



You are coming along nicely, but more work required.

A ruler is a model that behaves according to International Standards.

To what weather or climate International Standard must these models conform? Wink
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Reply #458 - Feb 24th, 2017 at 9:23pm
 
The BOM is predicitng a hot Autumn with 65% chance of exceeding median maximums.

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Autumn weather: Australia set for continued hot temperatures after 'exceptional' start to 2017
Posted about 10 hours ago

Above-median maximum temperatures around Australia

Although autumn is on the way, the Bureau of Meteorology has warned the hot weather is likely to continue, with warmer than average temperatures forecast for most of southern and eastern Australia.

The BOM's climate outlook predicts a drier than average March and May for the southern two-thirds of Australia; a result of forecast higher than normal pressure off eastern and southern Australia.

All capital cities except for Darwin have at least a 65 per cent chance of exceeding the median maximum temperature.

Similarly, autumn minimum temperatures are likely to be warmer than average across most of the country, except for northern WA and northern NT.

The forecast came after three heatwaves in summer, which saw the highest monthly mean temperatures on record for Sydney and Brisbane, and the highest daytime temperatures on record for Canberra.

"The periods between the waves of extreme heat also saw above average temperatures over large areas of east and south-east Australia," the BOM said in a Special Climate Statement released earlier this week.

"It was the consistency of high temperatures more than the extreme temperatures themselves that made early 2017 an exceptional event.
"During these heatwaves, daily maximum temperatures across south-east Australia exceeded 40 degrees Celsius over very large areas and were typically 8 to 12C above the January and February averages.

"The highest temperatures recorded during this period were 48.2 C at Tarcoola, SA, followed by 47.9C at Walgett, NSW; these are new February high temperature records at both these sites.

"While the January 1939 south-east Australian heatwave remains one of the most significant in recorded history, the frequency of such intense large-scale heatwaves has increased across spring, summer and autumn, and especially over the last 20 years."

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PHOTO: The first part of 2017 was defined weather-wise by a series of heatwaves. (Twitter: Jolene Laverty)
Even between heatwaves, the heat was out of the ordinary — not since the summer of 1938-39 has such a large area of NSW — more than one third of the state — recorded 50 or more days of 35 degrees Celsius or above during summer, BOM said.

Moree, in northern NSW, recorded 54 consecutive days of 35C or above — from 27 December 2016 to 18 February 2017. Mungindi measured 51 consecutive days.

Both sites exceeded the previous NSW record for the longest run of days over 35C.

Meanwhile in Queensland, 13 weather gauges broke records for their hottest February day, including St George on 46.8C, Birdsville on 47.1C and Amberley on 43C.

The heatwaves along the eastern coast also disrupted power stations, leaving thousands without power.
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Reply #460 - Feb 24th, 2017 at 9:58pm
 
I notice Moree has had 3 weather stations, 2 now closed. The last one open since 1995. I wonder about the step effect of those station changes.
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Reply #461 - Feb 24th, 2017 at 11:50pm
 
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If only we could have some 19 to 27 degree days here with some rain. I really had it wrong about it going to be a wet summer. I look forward to Autumn. I have not had a cold winter for about 2 or 3 years. Last year was such a fortnight winter season, that I feel ripped off at the lack of rain this summer.
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Reply #462 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 12:44am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 11:50pm:
I really had it wrong about it going to be a wet summer.


I predict deep fry for UnsubRocky from Autumn through to next Summer.
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Reply #463 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 10:38am
 
Stark County, Illinois, USA is. New record for February 24 by 8oF.:

http://www.cantonrep.com/news/20170224/stark-temps-match-all-time-high-for-winte...

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Stark County saw an all-time winter record high temperature today.

By Lori Monsewicz
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Today marks the warmest winter day in Stark County history — at least since the National Weather Service began keeping records in 1887.

Around 4:30 p.m., the temperature at the Akron-Canton Airport reached 76 degrees, according to meteorologists in the weather service's Cleveland office.

Temperatures today soared above the February all-time high of 72 degrees — set in 2000 — and matched the winter (December through February) record, said Kirk Lombardy, weather service meteorologist.

Lombardy said Friday's temperature of 76 degrees matched the all-time high for the winter months of December through February when hit the same temperature on Dec. 3, 1982.

The prior record high for Friday's date (Feb. 24) was 68, set in 1961.

February is typically colder than December, which makes a temperature in the 70s all the more unusual.

"But it's not unheard of," the meteorologist said.
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Reply #464 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 10:39am
 
lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 9:58pm:
I notice Moree has had 3 weather stations, 2 now closed. The last one open since 1995. I wonder about the step effect of those station changes.


Perhaps they got crushed by one of denizen Bobby's mental icebergs.
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Reply #465 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 10:41am
 
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 11:50pm:
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If only we could have some 19 to 27 degree days here with some rain. I really had it wrong about it going to be a wet summer. I look forward to Autumn. I have not had a cold winter for about 2 or 3 years. Last year was such a fortnight winter season, that I feel ripped off at the lack of rain this summer.


Can you post a story where you actually got 'it' right. Just one instance will do.
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Reply #466 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 11:31am
 
lee wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 5:52pm:
TheFunPolice wrote on Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:51pm:
That is why everything is related to a model: a ruler is a model!!



You are coming along nicely, but more work required.

A ruler is a model that behaves according to International Standards.

To what weather or climate International Standard must these models conform? Wink

You bring nothing to the table  Cheesy
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Reply #467 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 11:33am
 
lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 9:58pm:
I notice Moree has had 3 weather stations, 2 now closed. The last one open since 1995. I wonder about the step effect of those station changes.

That be coz you a concern troll me matey  Shocked
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Reply #469 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 4:32pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 10:41am:
UnSubRocky wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 11:50pm:
Gordon wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 9:30pm:
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If only we could have some 19 to 27 degree days here with some rain. I really had it wrong about it going to be a wet summer. I look forward to Autumn. I have not had a cold winter for about 2 or 3 years. Last year was such a fortnight winter season, that I feel ripped off at the lack of rain this summer.


Can you post a story where you actually got 'it' right. Just one instance will do.


Being wrong about weather patterns was one time that I was wrong in a long time. I normally take being right as a matter of common practice. But if you really want an example, I guess I could use the Test cricket series Australia is playing against India. ie., Australia to be really competitive and win a few games.
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Reply #470 - Feb 25th, 2017 at 8:44pm
 
lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 9:58pm:
I notice Moree has had 3 weather stations, 2 now closed. The last one open since 1995. I wonder about the step effect of those station changes.


Without hesitation I'd reckon the past got cooler and the recent got warmer. Data homogenized to within an inch of its life.

And all other records conveniently disappeared into an Orwellian black hole.

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Reply #471 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:06pm
 
An Indian summer protended for Autumn which will drive the racists from their hiding places.

Melbourne is going to be scorched in Autumn:

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbourne-weather-summer-was-relatively-mild-b...

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Australia is in for a hot, dry March, with heightened bushfire risk and the possibility of more heatwaves.

With autumn starting on Wednesday, you can expect warmer days and nights and less rain than usual, the Bureau of Meteorology's climate outlook says.

Indian summer set for Melbourne

For the first time in 12 years Melbourne hasn't had a single 40-degree day during its summer.
Take some solace in the fact there was not a single day over 40 degrees recorded in Melbourne during summer, and we had a slightly cooler February than usual.

"Generally February was a bit cooler than usual – not a big deviation from the usual though," Bureau of Meteorology senior forecaster Keris Arndt​ said.

Melbourne likely to get through summer without 40-degree scorcher
"We did not see any 40 degree days in February, you often see one or two. We did not see one all summer. The hot weather stayed a bit further north."

February's average maximum temperature was 25.6 degrees, with an average low of 14.8 degrees. On the hottest day the mercury reached 36 degrees.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbourne-weather-summer-was-relatively-mild-but-get-set-for-a-scorcher-of-an-autumn-20170228-gunnrd.html
Summer spared Melbourne the harshest of heatwaves, but autumn may have other ideas.

The bureau's weather station at Olympic Park measured 40.2 millimetres of rain for the month, nearly all which fell on a single day – February 6.

That was slightly less rainfall than usual for the month.

Above-average temperatures loom for March to May.
The bureau is forecasting a hot, dry autumn with below-average rainfall and heightened fire risk.

There might even be some heatwaves, Robyn Duell​, the bureau's senior climatologist, said in the forecaster's autumn climate outlook.

Rainfall forecast: It's going to be dry.

"In recent weeks the central and eastern tropical Pacific ocean has warmed. And climate models suggest this warming is likely to continue.

"Rainfall is likely to be below average for much of Australia.

Temperatures are expected to be warmer than average, and heatwave and bushfire risks are raised in many areas."

In part the bureau is putting that down to climate change – 22 of the past 26 years have featured below-average rainfall in south-east Australia as the climate steadily warms.
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Reply #472 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:11pm
 
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:06pm:
n Indian summer protended for Autumn which will drive the racists from their hiding places.



Oh goodie a 3 month weather prediction.
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Reply #473 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:36pm
 
Rider wrote on Feb 25th, 2017 at 8:44pm:
lee wrote on Feb 24th, 2017 at 9:58pm:
I notice Moree has had 3 weather stations, 2 now closed. The last one open since 1995. I wonder about the step effect of those station changes.


Without hesitation I'd reckon the past got cooler and the recent got warmer. Data homogenized to within an inch of its life.

And all other records conveniently disappeared into an Orwellian black hole.


You say that the democratically inclined should follow the dodgy accounting, perhaps?
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Reply #474 - Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:37pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:11pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:06pm:
n Indian summer protended for Autumn which will drive the racists from their hiding places.



Oh goodie a 3 month weather prediction.

I predict lee is going to hate kids all his life:  Wink
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Re: I'm not saying its hot, but ....
Reply #475 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 1:00pm
 
... Cherry blossoms are:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/cherry-blossom-peak-bloom-early_us_58b70438e...

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Freakishly Warm February Could Ring In Earliest Cherry Blossom Peak Bloom On Record
The National Park Service expects the trees to look their best between March 14 and 17.

Thanks to February’s exceptionally warm weather, cherry blossom trees in Washington, D.C., could hit peak bloom earlier than has previously been recorded.

As temperatures soared to nearly 80 degrees in the nation’s capital Wednesday, the National Park Service announced that this year’s bloom is expected to be in full swing between March 14 and 17 ― potentially edging out March 15, 1990, as the earliest peak bloom on record.

Peak bloom occurs when 70 percent of the Yoshino cherry blossom trees, the most abundant of the 12 cherry blossom varieties on the National Mall, fully bloom. April 4 is the average peak bloom date. Last year’s peak bloom took place on March 25. It occurred on April 10 in both 2015 and 2014.

“Washington, D.C., had a very mild winter ... and the warmest February on record,” Mike Litterst, a spokesman for the NPS, told The Huffington Post. “Certainly all of that contributed to the early projected peak bloom for the cherry blossoms.”

Cities across the country experienced record high temperatures throughout February. Temperatures in D.C. rose to 20 degrees above average some days, causing the fluffy white flowers on the trees to mature earlier than usual.

2016 DC Cherry Blossoms
Despite the unseasonably warm weather preceding this year’s estimated peak bloom date, Litterst was reluctant to name climate change as the driving force behind the cherry blossoms’ accelerated maturation.

“Since the first half of the 20th century, the average peak bloom day of the cherry blossoms has shifted approximately five days earlier, and D.C. temperatures have increased by about 1.5 degrees Celsius at that same time,” Litterst said. “But the cherry blossoms trees are non-native species, so they grow in D.C. out of their natural context. So they may not be a reliable indicator for climate change.”

Some experts are more willing to connect earlier peak bloom to climate change, though. A 2012 paper from researchers at the University of Washington suggested global warming could result in February peak blooms for D.C.’s cherry blossoms before the next century.

“For its sensitivity to winter and early spring temperatures, the timing of cherry blossoms is an ideal indicator of the impacts of climate change on tree phenology,” the researchers wrote.

Over 1.5 million visitors flock to D.C.’s Tidal Basin every year for the month-long National Cherry Blossom Festival. The newly projected peak bloom dates prompted festival organizers to tweak this year’s start date to March 15, five days earlier than planned. The festival, which provides significant boost to D.C.’s economy each year, will end April 16 as originally scheduled.
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Re: I'm not saying its hot, but ....
Reply #476 - Mar 2nd, 2017 at 6:15pm
 
lee wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:11pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:06pm:
n Indian summer protended for Autumn which will drive the racists from their hiding places.



Oh goodie a 3 month weather prediction.


Any summer would be good here. Barely a decent summers day yet this summer. Cold as hell.
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Reply #477 - Mar 3rd, 2017 at 1:49am
 
Rider wrote on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 6:15pm:
lee wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:11pm:
Unforgiven wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:06pm:
n Indian summer protended for Autumn which will drive the racists from their hiding places.



Oh goodie a 3 month weather prediction.


Any summer would be good here. Barely a decent summers day yet this summer. Cold as hell.


We must have had conspicuously different weather patterns. Last winter was a warm winter, with only 2 weeks worth of what I would consider cold weather. This just finished summer was one of the hottest we have had in a while. Also, it hardly rained this year or over the summer.
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