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Sir lastnail Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 29707 Gender:	The F-23 Black Widow -The plane that never made it Mar 13^th, 2016 at 9:52pm We hear so much about the F-22 as being the ducks nuts in fighter attack planes but spare a thought for the contender from Northrup Grumman that never saw the light of day even though some say the F-23 was a better plane than the F-22. Seems that Lockheed martin ends up winning all of the contracts these days
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80318 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: The F-23 Black Widow -The plane that never made it Reply #1 - Mar 14^th, 2016 at 6:50pm Picture of the original Black Widow...
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capitosinora Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 2172 USA Florida Gender:	Re: The F-23 Black Widow -The plane that never made it Reply #2 - Mar 28^th, 2016 at 6:38pm It will one day.
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Grappler Truth Teller Feller Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 80318 Proud pre-1850's NO Voter Gender:	Re: The F-23 Black Widow -The plane that never made it Reply #3 - Apr 27^th, 2016 at 12:43am capitosinora wrote on Mar 28^th, 2016 at 6:38pm: It will one day. I'm still lamenting the crash of P-51 Big Beautiful Doll after a mid-air with an A-1...
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Re: The F-23 Black Widow -The plane that never made it
Reply #4 - May 26^th, 2016 at 12:13am

Northrop has a bad reputation in the US defence community for creating excellent aircraft but lacking the managerial ability to build them efficiently and cheaply. The F-22 was slightly worse than the F-22 but Lockheed had the managerial ability to deliver the aircraft on time and on budget. Northrop was also, at the time of the competition with the F-22 heavily involved in the B-2 bomber program. The Pentagon felt that they would not be able to deliver two top of the range aircraft simultaneously. So the F-22 won the fighter competition.

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Re: The F-23 Black Widow -The plane that never made it
Reply #5 - Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:53pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 26^th, 2016 at 12:13am:

Northrop has a bad reputation in the US defence community for creating excellent aircraft but lacking the managerial ability to build them efficiently and cheaply. The F-22 was slightly worse than the F-22 but Lockheed had the managerial ability to deliver the aircraft on time and on budget. Northrop was also, at the time of the competition with the F-22 heavily involved in the B-2 bomber program. The Pentagon felt that they would not be able to deliver two top of the range aircraft simultaneously. So the F-22 won the fighter competition.

Gee, the same couldn't be said for the F35!

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Re: The F-23 Black Widow -The plane that never made it
Reply #6 - Jun 22^nd, 2016 at 1:42am

Honest Joe wrote on Jun 21^st, 2016 at 9:53pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 26^th, 2016 at 12:13am:

Northrop has a bad reputation in the US defence community for creating excellent aircraft but lacking the managerial ability to build them efficiently and cheaply. The F-22 was slightly worse than the F-23 but Lockheed had the managerial ability to deliver the aircraft on time and on budget. Northrop was also, at the time of the competition with the F-22 heavily involved in the B-2 bomber program. The Pentagon felt that they would not be able to deliver two top of the range aircraft simultaneously. So the F-22 won the fighter competition.

Gee, the same couldn't be said for the F35!

In what way? Lockheed-Martin is not involved in delivering any other aircraft at the moment that I am aware of that is taxing their management ability.

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