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mothra Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 36060 Gender:	Re: Why are Aussies and Kiwis an apatheic lot? Reply #15 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 1:08am Seems to me that everything i read about PA infers that it is toxic. Drama after drama occurs on here because of PA. I don't feel inclined to visit.
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Reply #16 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 1:22am

mothra wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 1:08am:

Seems to me that everything i read about PA infers that it is toxic. Drama after drama occurs on here because of PA.

I don't feel inclined to visit.

I visited and posted once... and the vile stench of hatred and putrescent vilification and abuse was enough to make a high-ranking Lord of Hell gag..... the people there are psychopaths of the first water..... and have no respect for anything but their own ability to verbally violate anyone and anything...

The world's lowest and most pestilential scum would reject their application for membership of a sewer dragger's position...... that's being used as a sponge dragged through a sewer to clean its sides.....

Sound about right?

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Reply #17 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 1:43am

I visited and posted once... and the vile stench of hatred and putrescent vilification and abuse was enough to make a high-ranking Lord of Hell gag..... the people there are psychopaths of the first water..... and have no respect for anything but their own ability to verbally violate anyone and anything..

May I have a link?

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We are the lucky country, no need to complain.

Except for the paedo priests we should have complained about them earlier.

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Reply #18 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 2:15am

mothra wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 12:57am:

Oi! We've got a culture. It's to hang as much poo as possible on anyone remotely different. Muslims are the target of the decade.

Since I've been here one could write a social psychology thesis on Australia. Xenophobia reins supreme and it's not just of other ethnicities but same ethnicities outside of the country. There is also irrational paranoia, religious and gender intolerance and a warped view on the world that seems to be filtered from mainstream news input.

Homogeneous tract housing (which is also prevalent in America) I find to be the most interesting. My own theory is the more you clusterbugger people together in a suburban dwelling the more indifferent to the outside world they become and many post on this forum reflect that. I'm not sure if that creates laziness and apathy for the roots of apathy are far more complex.

Australia is also aloof without any neighboring bordering apart from providence states so it only knows its own societal values so I can see why this might infer some hostility to anyone not within its own boundaries. The land is vast and underpopulated in most regions leaving many to only explore developed areas which is a shame because there is so much natural beauty to see there.

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Reply #19 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 2:32am

Marla, you are viewing Australia through some exceedingly fogged lenses.

Don't take the words of the more feral amongst us, as represented by this forum, as a true representation of Australia.

It's not that bad.

Not alot of clusterbuggering happens in Australia. We have developments, sure, but they are usually placed within communities.

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Reply #20 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 2:46am

Oh, I know. I'm making grandiose and blanketed judgements. Maybe it's something about suburbia (no matter where you live) that fascinates me. It just affects people in odd ways. I grew up in a mountain town of Ouray which was scenic but there was little privacy so to speak because everybody knew everybody. Although Ouray now has changed and become more suburban due to all the yuppies who keep on moving there.

Still breathtaking every time I go back there although my former little town being ruined by overpopulation and dumbasses.

Same scenario when I lived out on the eastern plains in a craphole known as Holly. Everybody knew who you were by name and there was this obligation to address others in the same manner. When I got out of the military and moved to Denver in a suburban neighborhood it was strange for me because nobody ever spoke to anyone they didn't know. Strange as it sounds I never could understand the mindset of such inclusiveness. I guess it all comes down to where you were raised.

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Reply #21 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 3:12am

Carl D wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 12:58am:

AiA wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 11:58pm:

There has been a troublesome "Carl D" who posted at PA ... wonder if it is the same one ...

*sigh*

One more time - any Carl D (or variations thereof) you see or have seen at PA are NOT me. Got it?

Could someone PLEASE put this as a 'sticky' at the top of the forums? (even then, I'm sure some people still wouldn't get it).

See what I mean, Mothra?

How would I know a thing like that? There has been a Carl D visiting PA for years and years ...

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Reply #22 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 3:13am

Sir Grappler Truth Teller OAM wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 1:22am:

mothra wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 1:08am:

Seems to me that everything i read about PA infers that it is toxic. Drama after drama occurs on here because of PA.

I don't feel inclined to visit.

I visited and posted once... and the vile stench of hatred and putrescent vilification and abuse was enough to make a high-ranking Lord of Hell gag..... the people there are psychopaths of the first water..... and have no respect for anything but their own ability to verbally violate anyone and anything...

The world's lowest and most pestilential scum would reject their application for membership of a sewer dragger's position...... that's being used as a sponge dragged through a sewer to clean its sides.....

Sound about right?

That is an accurate description of the PAer known as Aussie ...

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Reply #24 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 7:07am

Megan Emily Jones wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 11:01pm:

compared to most countries, these two rank highly in apathetic when it comes to politics and the like, why is this the case? please tell me your reasons of why this may be?

Compulsory voting and preferential voting both make our government very mainstream and stable.

The old curse "may you live in interesting times" is a reference to politics.

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Reply #25 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 7:18am

miketrees wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 1:43am:

I visited and posted once... and the vile stench of hatred and putrescent vilification and abuse was enough to make a high-ranking Lord of Hell gag..... the people there are psychopaths of the first water..... and have no respect for anything but their own ability to verbally violate anyone and anything..

May I have a link?

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We are the lucky country, no need to complain.

Except for the paedo priests we should have complained about them earlier.

I dunno mike my footy team starts out giving me hope of all kinds only to let me down at the end. the raiders...hohum.,..I want to stop supporting them but I cant.. whats wrong with me???????>....

but I love NZ...they are more relaxed than us.. and dont demand the crap we demand...at the end of the day.. we are only one person... we can or cannot do anything of value....its up to us....

I dont expect anyone to act like myself....I just hope they do...lead by example...

I usually vote not too sure this time round.. I dont like minor parties..... or hate filled independents who wouldnt vote for the govt if they hated them...

thats not politics...

so I am taking a big black marker with me.. if I am in a bad mood someone will cop a serve.. Wink

we still have FREEDOM OF SPEECH....let those who dare to think they can run the country on my behalf......earn it?.or expect the worst.

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Reply #26 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 7:33am

Marla wrote on Feb 20^th, 2016 at 2:46am:

Oh, I know. I'm making grandiose and blanketed judgements. Maybe it's something about suburbia (no matter where you live) that fascinates me. It just affects people in odd ways. I grew up in a mountain town of Ouray which was scenic but there was little privacy so to speak because everybody knew everybody. Although Ouray now has changed and become more suburban due to all the yuppies who keep on moving there.

http://s13.postimg.org/6kjfjuikn/ouray.jpg

Still breathtaking every time I go back there although my former little town being ruined by overpopulation and dumbasses.

Same scenario when I lived out on the eastern plains in a craphole known as Holly. Everybody knew who you were by name and there was this obligation to address others in the same manner. When I got out of the military and moved to Denver in a suburban neighborhood it was strange for me because nobody ever spoke to anyone they didn't know. Strange as it sounds I never could understand the mindset of such inclusiveness. I guess it all comes down to where you were raised.

Wow , very nice

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Reply #27 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 7:38am

Megan Emily Jones wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 11:01pm:

compared to most countries, these two rank highly in apathetic when it comes to politics and the like, why is this the case? please tell me your reasons of why this may be?

QUESTION;
Why do men feel inclinded ['forced' ?] to work [i.e. struggle to better their situation], whenever they are hungry, cold, and in poverty ?

But then, they do not feel such an inclination so much, .....whenever they feel that they are comfortable and secure [living safely] ?

Is it just in our nature to 'kick back' and want to relax, whenever we feel that we are comfortable and secure [living safely] ?

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Luke 21:34
And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life....

Psalms 106:3
Blessed are they that keep judgment, and he that doeth righteousness at all times.

Deuteronomy 8:10

When thou hast eaten and art full,

then thou shalt bless the LORD thy God for the good land which he hath given thee.
11

Beware that thou forget not the LORD thy God,

in not keeping his commandments, and his judgments, and his statutes, which I command thee this day:
12 Lest when thou hast eaten and art full, and hast built goodly houses, and dwelt therein;
13 And when thy herds and thy flocks multiply, and thy silver and thy gold is multiplied, and all that thou hast is multiplied;
14 Then thine heart be lifted up, and thou forget the LORD thy God, which brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage;
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17 And thou say in thine heart, My power and the might of mine hand hath gotten me this wealth.

God announces, that ancient Israel [the nation] will fail, morally, because when ancient Israel find comfort in their lives, in their situation, they will discard and break their covenant with their God.

Deuteronomy 31:19
Now therefore write ye this song for you, and teach it the children of Israel: put it in their mouths, that this song may be a witness for me against the children of Israel.
20 For when I shall have brought them into the land which I sware unto their fathers, that floweth with milk and honey; and they shall have eaten and filled themselves, and waxen fat; then will they turn unto other gods, and serve them, and provoke me, and break my covenant.
21 And it shall come to pass, when many evils and troubles are befallen them, that this song shall testify against them as a witness; for it shall not be forgotten out of the mouths of their seed: for I know their imagination which they go about, even now, before I have brought them into the land which I sware.

Aren't we [many Aussies and Kiwis], some of the people who are descendents of the ancient Israelites ?

I believe that we are.

The Hebrew word pronounced 'alah', is the pronouncement of a curse.

'alah', was a curse, put upon mankind, but especially, put upon [all of Israel, and] the Jewish people [....as a 'reward' for, forgetting their God, for departing from his law, and for breaking their covenant with their holy God.].

Daniel 9:11
Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the curse is poured upon us, and the oath that is written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him.

"....the oath that is written in the law of Moses"

???

Google;

the song of moses

see.....
Deuteronomy 31:14 to Deuteronomy 32:47

Quote:

Strong's Hebrew
422 'alah aw-law'
a primitive root; properly, to adjure, i.e. (usually in a bad sense) imprecate:--adjure, curse, swear.

Quote:

Strong's Hebrew
423 'alah aw-law'
from 422; an imprecation:--curse, cursing, execration, oath, swearing.

Dictionary;
execrate = =
1 feel or express great loathing for.
2 archaic curse; swear.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H422&t=KJV
http://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?Strongs=H423&version=KJV

'Allah', is a curse upon all of mankind.

Not a 'name' for God.

Eyes to see ?

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Reply #29 - Feb 20^th, 2016 at 8:02am

Megan Emily Jones wrote on Feb 19^th, 2016 at 11:01pm:

compared to most countries, these two rank highly in apathetic when it comes to politics and the like, why is this the case? please tell me your reasons of why this may be?

Because our politicians are a lying bunch of scum that only care about the chair they hold and not the people they represent.

Since Hawke and Keating they have sold all our public cash cows to a hand full of greedy men, now the only revenue our government has is taxation.

Last year Telstra made $4.3 billion dollars the commonwealth bank made about $10 billion dollars profit now what about our utilities how much did they make....???

All this money could have gone into education, health, old age care and so on, but instead it goes to a hand full of wealthy and greedy men called the oligarchy.

They have failed to secure their position as a government which in turn secures the citizens of this country.

The bottom line is they have sold us out ( we the people) and have become nothing more than CEO's for the big corporations creating monopolies etc etc.

They have failed us.

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