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Neferti Gold Member Offline Posts: 7965 Canberra Gender:	Re: Margaret Cunneen QC caught up in 'her own words' Reply #615 - Mar 20^th, 2016 at 3:18pm %
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red baron Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 10204 Blue Mountains Gender:	Re: Margaret Cunneen QC caught up in 'her own words' Reply #616 - Mar 20^th, 2016 at 3:22pm Well...you're killing us all now Aussie but not with our consent..
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Reply #617 - Mar 20^th, 2016 at 3:57pm

red baron wrote on Mar 20^th, 2016 at 3:11pm:

There is one thing I understand Sven.

That is Margaret Cunneen's reticence to have these tapes released for public consumption.

Use your melon Sven, Cunneen is a highly intelligent, highly educated woman.

Of course she knows who has the tapes.

I'm betting - ABC. It would only take an email from her assuring them that there would be no lawsuits for the ABC to publish them. Who do you think would complain if Cunneen removed her resistance, the tow truck driver?

Ha ha ha ha ha...... Grin

Why should Cunneen consent to a breach of the law. The conversations were recorded unlawfully and Megan Latham's head is on the block.

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Reply #618 - Mar 20^th, 2016 at 4:02pm

Svengali wrote on Mar 20^th, 2016 at 3:57pm:

red baron wrote on Mar 20^th, 2016 at 3:11pm:

There is one thing I understand Sven.

That is Margaret Cunneen's reticence to have these tapes released for public consumption.

Use your melon Sven, Cunneen is a highly intelligent, highly educated woman.

Of course she knows who has the tapes.

I'm betting - ABC. It would only take an email from her assuring them that there would be no lawsuits for the ABC to publish them. Who do you think would complain if Cunneen removed her resistance, the tow truck driver?

Ha ha ha ha ha...... Grin

Why should Cunneen consent to a breach of the law. The conversations were recorded unlawfully and Megan Latham's head is on the block.

That is yet to be determined....but you are right that Latham's abuse of her powers and facilitation of the release of the tapes have put her in the cross hairs.

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Reply #619 - Mar 20^th, 2016 at 4:10pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 20^th, 2016 at 4:02pm:

Svengali wrote on Mar 20^th, 2016 at 3:57pm:

red baron wrote on Mar 20^th, 2016 at 3:11pm:

There is one thing I understand Sven.

That is Margaret Cunneen's reticence to have these tapes released for public consumption.

Use your melon Sven, Cunneen is a highly intelligent, highly educated woman.

Of course she knows who has the tapes.

I'm betting - ABC. It would only take an email from her assuring them that there would be no lawsuits for the ABC to publish them. Who do you think would complain if Cunneen removed her resistance, the tow truck driver?

Ha ha ha ha ha...... Grin

Why should Cunneen consent to a breach of the law. The conversations were recorded unlawfully and Megan Latham's head is on the block.

That is yet to be determined....but you are right that Latham's abuse of her powers and facilitation of the release of the tapes have put her in the cross hairs.

Yes, Latham is done for. Latham decided to get into a public cat-fight with Cunneen and has lost badly sullying Latham's reputation very considerably and more so as she tries to defend an act that has been deemed wrongful by two independent judicial reviews.

It will be interesting if it emerges that Latham distributed, or caused or allowed others to distribute records of conversation to the media. That will see the end of Latham if it so emerges that she did cause conversations to be distributed unlawfully.

The blather of Red Baron, Grappler and Cods has been wide of the mark and ignorant as to law and parliamentary processes.

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Reply #620 - Mar 20^th, 2016 at 4:21pm

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It will be interesting if it emerges that Latham distributed, or caused or allowed others to distribute records of conversation to the media. That will see the end of Latham if it so emerges that she did cause conversations to be distributed unlawfully.

Well.....known facts are that the following had possession of the tapes.

Australian crime Commission.

They gave them to ICAC/Latham.

ICAC/Latham gave them to the Parliamentary Committee.

Somewhere in that chain......a person handed something to the schmedia......whether it was a copy of the tape, some part of the tape, a full transcript of the tape or part of the transcipt is not publicly known.

I wonder if Mr Baron will start demanding that whoever (in the schmedia) has this illicit bit of stuff step forward and reveal where they got it from.

That is far more important to "Society" and due process than anything else in this scenario.

Heck, even Grappler might start asking ~ Who weleased the tapes.

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Reply #621 - Mar 20^th, 2016 at 5:06pm

Let me straighten you out right there Sven.. The conversations WERE NOT UNLAWFULLY RECORDED.

The Australian Crime Commission would have had a Federal Warrant authorising the Intercept.

From that point on ANYTHING that is captured during the course of the Intercept IS LAWFULLY recorded; including the infamous Cunneen conversation.

The UNLAWFUL part is who, most likely in the I.C.A.C., leaked it to the media.

The media release suggested that multiple sources has heard the subject conversation. The reality is, law aside, those tapes are 'out there' and they have a life of their own. Whether anyone here or elsewhere like it or not.

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Reply #622 - Mar 20^th, 2016 at 5:10pm

red baron wrote on Mar 20^th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

Let me straighten you out right there Sven.. The conversations WERE NOT UNLAWFULLY RECORDED.

The Australian Crime Commission would have had a Federal Warrant authorising the Intercept.

From that point on ANYTHING that is captured during the course of the Intercept IS LAWFULLY recorded; including the infamous Cunneen conversation.

The UNLAWFUL part is who, most likely in the I.C.A.C., leaked it to the media.

The media release suggested that multiple sources has heard the subject conversation. The reality is, law aside, those tapes are 'out there' and they have a life of their own. Whether anyone here or elsewhere like it or not.

It is not I who is bent. Red Baron is bent and should straighten itself before offering its services to others.

That is certainly subject to legal challenge because there was no warrant for the recording of conversation by Cunneen with other parties not mentioned on the warrant.

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Reply #623 - Mar 20^th, 2016 at 5:12pm

red baron wrote on Mar 20^th, 2016 at 5:06pm:

Let me straighten you out right there Sven.. The conversations WERE NOT UNLAWFULLY RECORDED.

The Australian Crime Commission would have had a Federal Warrant authorising the Intercept.

From that point on ANYTHING that is captured during the course of the Intercept IS LAWFULLY recorded; including the infamous Cunneen conversation.

The UNLAWFUL part is who, most likely in the I.C.A.C., leaked it to the media.

The media release suggested that multiple sources has heard the subject conversation. The reality is, law aside, those tapes are 'out there' and they have a life of their own. Whether anyone here or elsewhere like it or not.

There is no such thing as 'law aside,' (especially reality.) It is never aside. The tapes are dead. They have no life at all unless Cunneen is charged by a NSW copper under the relevant section of the NSW Crimes Act. Will that happen, Mr Baron?

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Reply #624 - Mar 20^th, 2016 at 5:29pm

Neferti wrote on Mar 20^th, 2016 at 2:36pm:

cods wrote on Mar 20^th, 2016 at 2:24pm:

Svengali wrote on Mar 20^th, 2016 at 11:51am:

Red Baron, Grappler and Cods have taken a lot of headshots in this debate and are groggy from being pummelled with truth and facts.

They just refuse to understand that the law and the rules of parliamentary privilege does not permit the recording to be released whether or not Cunneen consents.

which post did I lose..

me thinks your reading the wrong thread.. or your comprehension went south.... sad init?

Don't take any notice of Svengali, Cods. He/She has replaced Phemanderac as Aussie's backup merchant. Wink

it used to be gweg..do you think they have had a falling out?..

personally I havent a clue why they are argueing over this.. its not as if their opinion counts for anything after all.

I am sure Marg couldnt careless and has moved on....as for Latham I hope she is being watched .. she far oversteps her position...it would seem..

she has hostile eyes I wouldnt want to appear in front of her thats for sure..

I would bet there isnt a lawyer alive who hasnt given legal advice to one of their own...

any more than a doctor would stick a bandaid on his childs knee.. Roll Eyes

you would have to be bonkers if you think they say... oooooo NOOOOOOOOOOO its against the hippocratic..whatever..

and tell you what I doubt any coppers ever book their own mothers for speeding..???

its human nature.... at least I hope it bloody is.

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Aussie Gold Member Offline OzPolitic Posts: 39227 Gender:	Re: Margaret Cunneen QC caught up in 'her own words' Reply #626 - Mar 20^th, 2016 at 6:36pm Bundy was a Lawyer? Do you have any evidence to support your wild generalisation that "Lawyers are known to have indications of being psychopaths," or is that you trying to be abusive of me, yet again? Buggered if I know why you bother, Neferti.
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Reply #627 - Mar 20^th, 2016 at 8:08pm

Aussie wrote on Mar 20^th, 2016 at 6:36pm:

Bundy was a Lawyer? Do you have any evidence to support your wild generalisation that "Lawyers are known to have indications of being psychopaths," or is that you trying to be abusive of me, yet again?

Buggered if I know why you bother, Neferti.

Well - he did defend himself..... sacked his lawyers...

Apparently he eventually confessed....

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Reply #628 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 10:39am

You know as well as I do Aussie that Margaret Cunneen will never have to face anything in reqard to the tapes. The High Court has ensued that.

Yes, I can say 'law aside' because it is a fact Jack that those tapes are out there.

And at any time someone could anonymously post them.

You see Aussie even though the Judiciary has lined up with Cunneen on this; the tapes exist and unless someone burns the bootleg copies, they have a life of their own and those tapes don't give two hoots for chapter and verse of law.

It is indicative of the interest in this matter that it had had over 10,000 hits. People aren't stupid and they know when something is on the nose.

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Reply #629 - Mar 21^st, 2016 at 10:45am

Are you as thick as you make out Sven. I have already said. THAT ALL CONVERSATIONS RECORDED on a Telephone Interception are LAWFULLY RECORDED you dolt.

I worked in NSW Police Telephone Intercepts for seven years. What are your qualifications to say what is unlawful, you are making yourself look like the ignoramous you are.

You make Sergeant Schulz look like Einstein.

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