Lionel Edriess wrote on Mar 31^st, 2016 at 9:32pm:

A person I know (a black belt Karate instructor) was attacked by two men.
He was struck from behind by the first man and he grabbed said man and threw him aside as the second man ran in to strike him.
He did not hit the man, he threw him to the side with a body throw.
The second man was coming at speed so he punched him as he attacked, breaking the mans jaw and collar bone, mainly from the mans momentum.
The first man however head butted the wall and suffered a concussion.

The police came and arrested the man who was attacked and the criminals went to hospital.

In court, the man could not refer to the two criminals previous violent convictions as there was an outstanding conviction and the mans case may/ would have impacted on a "Fair" trial.

The man was charged initially with assault occasioning bodily harm, but this was argued down to using undue force to defend himself.
Apparently, although he only struck 1 person, this was unreasonable force because he was a trained fighter.
He avoided a jail sentence, but lost his job because he had a criminal conviction, he also had a 12 month probation requiring him to go to a police station every day.
He was 45 years old and had never committed a crime in his life.....ever.

There is a provision by law that allows you to defend yourself with an open hand, the law is an ass, thee are several very effective techniques that use an open hand in Karate, unfortunately these are quite injurious to the attacker, but hell, as a martial artist of over 20 years that is the way I will defend myself in future.

Sorry, sadly no.

The law is an ass, governed by an ever expanding plethora of asses.

Judges are so far out of touch with the real world that they see nothing other than their own overgrown guts.

For privacy's sake Ill let you believe that the law is always right and never gets it wrong and that this never happened.
That Judges have all the answers and that the police are un-corruptible.
That politicians and public servants actually serve the interests of the public before their own and that the tooth fairy is alive and well and living with Santa Clause in the North Pole.
And that the world is a lovely place inhabited by altruistic, benevolent people from all walks of life.

Valkie wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 12:35pm:

Yes, you did. Your whole post was abject nonsense not based on any fact at all. Would you like me to highlight the obvious fabrications or are are you going to admit the whole post was BS?

Valkie wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 8:45am:
An impossible injury from one punch, the jaw and collarbone are not connected. Ive been boxing and fighting for decades and seen plenty of broken jaws, never came across a collar bone and jaw been broken by one punch.

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this sort of thing quite happens in the movies where the skills of the martial artist are choreographed and the defendant performs some type of expert akido deflection. Looks great in the movies  but in real life to head butt a wall unwittingly the person would have to be held at the right angle at the point of impact, not somehow "swept aside" as claimed.

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also, that would never happen. with varying accounts of the incident all 3 would be initially arrested even thought hey went to hospital.

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there is no such charge as "using undue force" there is common assault, assault occasioning grievous bodily harm, etc, etc. If the charges were downgraded from grievous bodily harm, there is no trial, common assault charges are heard in the Magistrates court.

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more nonsense, the outcome would be decided on the degree and level of force used, not on the defendants fighting capabilities. of course, his degree of skill could be used against him if he over reacted but thats quite different.

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reporting to a police station very day over a common assault charge is BS. if so there would be thousands of people reporting to every police station every day.

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No, there isnt, it doesnt exist. Pure fabrication.
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the only piece of truth in your whole story.

Valkie wrote on Apr 5^th, 2016 at 5:18pm: