Some studies undoubtedly shows that Atheists and gays are the most aggressive groups in western societies supported by Media, quasi scientists and corrupted "Politically correct" politicians.
Eventually Atheism is a disorder of human brain that prevents a person to be aware of spiritual life similar like epilepsy, Schizophrenia and so on.
Like people with physical disorders who can't see or hear atheists are unable to think intuitively, emotionally and creatively to realize a big picture around them. Like in animals their thoughts are only  focused on the senses' detectable environment without capability to understand spiritual world in them and out of them.
Traditional Chinese medicine explains atheism disorder as a luck of Che energy in curtain parts of the body and can be successfully treated by acupuncture and in modern time by hypnosis.

For both atheists and Gays treatment with acupuncture can successfully bring harmony and peace of mind to those people.



http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2015/07/08/apparently-acupuncture-can-cure-homosexuali...

athos wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 7:10am:


Which studies?

Why is he lumping atheists and gays in together? Sure, atheists may be less judgmental of homosexuality, but how is that relevant to his assertions that they are mutually aggressive?

issuevoter wrote on Dec 16^th, 2015 at 9:11pm:


Applying acupuncture to an Atheist.

"Jesus Christ that hurt!"

- cured 

John_Taverner wrote on Dec 20^th, 2015 at 2:56pm:


So, someone wants to go stick needles in Gays because their whole problem with Gays is that Gays sometimes like to feel pricks...

Counter intuitive?

"Eventually Atheism is a disorder of human brain that prevents a person to be aware of spiritual life similar like epilepsy, Schizophrenia and so on."

Seriously??

It astounds me the absolute drivel that comes out of some people.

Thats OK, I have no problem saying I'm smart like other atheists.

All of them apparently we arent different. Just like christians are all the same and therefore must all blow up abortion clinics.

... wrote on Mar 12^th, 2016 at 9:15pm:


Atheists tend to be above average anyway so cheers.

Jedi are even more above average. They can do remarkable things.  I say that in realisation that this is a census year.

Not much brilliance, just above average.

What do atheists have to prove other than being smarter?

One does not choose to be straight because we are naturally, biologically made to be heterosexual.
Choosing to pervert that natural sexuality is a choice.
Perhaps it is not a concious choice as they are unaware of where their choices will lead,
but the end result is the same regardless of foresight.

Human sexuality is fluid. This is a fact. It is how fetishes develop
it is how straight men turn gay in prison.
Gay men are just effemenite men who have been raised within environmental factors which leave them
vulnerable to following the path of homosexual perversion.
That is to say, they dont know any better and they dont stop themselves before its too late.
No positive role models, broken families with no father, society the way it is.
These are the reasons of many which contribute to the fact of rising homosexuality.
Now how can that be if homosexuals are just born.
If it was purely genetic we wouldn't see it rise or fall.

Binary wrote on Apr 25^th, 2016 at 8:26pm:


It's a non issue. People can be excited sexually without a member of the opposite sex. Think about it. If you masturbate (most people do) then you're having a same sex "relationship" with yourself. (Shock horror)

It doesn't take long for a physiological reaction to translate to lurve. - and that applies whether you fall in lurve with a girl, a bloke or your right hand. (well maybe not your right hand). I define lurve as a psychological reaction stemming from physiological stimuli. (Maybe that sounds cold and clinical)

I don't condemn people for the way that they choose to ejaculate as long as they keep it to themselves. Too much is "in your face" these days. People can be gay all they like, but why do they have to have a parade about it?

Why are you harping on about gays and atheists as if they are the same? They are unrelated. There are plenty of clergy who are gay, and I'm sure that they do the necessary supplication, self flagellation etc. No?

John_Taverner wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 5:44am:


Gay people don't ever keep what they do to themselves. Just look at the skyrocketing AIDS rate.
Do you really want to live in the fked up world they're creating through their "I shout loudest" politics?
These people debase themselves to the level of animals, they have no regard for human life.
I heard a gay man on live TV defend mandatory abortions for future population control.
These people are twisted and corrupt.
I would not trust their fractured minds with any degree of influence.
Maybe once they were fewer, but I fully believe our society in its encouragements is creating and fostering more and more.
These people do not want to be gay. They do not want AIDS
they do not want to pervert nature, to be a suicide statistic,
to fight within themselves constantly.
We need to stop trying to pave their way, and instead toughen up, put a foot down and actually help them.

Watch as the most tolerant society of all time attempts to fight nature and will lose.
We can all accept gay men, but they will never be able to accept themselves. It is physically impossible.
The suicide rates will at best plateu on a high.
It is not our society which is broken, it is they within themselves.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 1:05pm:


Is that the best you've got?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 2:19pm:


Yep because you believe AIDS isnt a problem. Nice.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 2:50pm:



As an example, the flu kills over 10 times more Australians each year than does HIV. Cancer kills approximately 460 times more people.

Cardiovascular- 430 times more

Road toll- 12 times more people.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 2:54pm:


What does other fatalities have to do with anything?
Just because some random other things are worse means nothing.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 2:50pm:


Why does it matter whether you believe AIDS is better or worse? This opinion contributes nothing.

Binary wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 3:04pm:



True but it doesnt exactly lead one to the conclusion that HIV is skyrocketing.

Ahhh found it, it was more than a year ago, nearly three. And looking from the context, it appears as though he wasnt arguing for mandatory abortions. He was using it as a a "dangerous idea" on the concern he had on population control.

I would not argue, he was specifically defending for it or arguing for it.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 3:15pm:


If you bothered to read my post, you'd see its obviously moral.
We need to help the gay population with their higher associated risk rates both for HIV and suicide,
rather than promote and encourage damaging gay lifestyles.

It's not a dodgy fact, HIV is on the rise in Australia.
afaodotorgdotau/about-hiv/the-hiv-epidemic/hiv-statistics-australia#.VyMLhah96Uk

If your only rebuttal to my original post is to cry about language use then I'm afraid I don't care.

Binary wrote on Apr 29^th, 2016 at 12:31pm:


Of course you don't.

I can see that you are actually a fine upstanding heterosexual individual.

Clear as mud, mate. 

Quote:


That's right. Keep your back to the wall mate. Watch out for  those rebuttals.

Binary wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 12:34am:


Example: In the 1950's, people were recommended by doctors to smoke cigarettes for their health.
To the best of our limited human knowledge we considered this to be true.
Does that mean that in our ignorance, cigarettes suddenly ceased to be harmful?
Of course not!
Likewise if we consider ourselves able to understand and define God's will through our limited human capacity
we will always come to similar conclusions, that we fool ourselves into thinking are logical.
Assuming God is the creator of the universe, how can we possibly consider ourselves able to understand his will or motives?

A further example: Let's say I ask God one day to grant me a request.
"Let lightning strike infront of me then I'll believe."
Nothing happens. AHA! God must not exist then.
It's this faulty 'logic' that assumes we have power over God.
We can twist and turn that concept as the man in the above video does
saying that because God's word has come to us in a certain form
we can deduce that he is not real, because we decide so by our own flawed standard.

God does not operate under your parameters. This is the meaning of faith.

Which God would that be? The God of the three wise men and the holy virgin, or can I pick my own?

Your argument is deceitfully non specific. If you were to pick a God as a consequence of your masterful use of negative argument, why then would you settle for the God of the cap belt and braces?

If you're Irish, that's ok. I understand. I love the Irish.

Good honest answer.

I wasn't really brought up with any religion. In my youth I did have a certain curiosity about religions. I still do, but my belief in God is something like the God of nature rather than any Holy Book.   I'm more of a religious naturalist. (I wear clothes in case you don't know the term)

I must say that I don't mind Catholics. Catholics are generally very respectful people.  It's these egotistical evangelicals who act like they are God Almighty  that get me worked up. Even worst are the ex evangelicals who decide that they want to get fervent about being atheistic. I just tell them to settle down. If you insult people's religion, you insult people.

Now Catholics I can work with. I even married one. 

Binary wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 12:01am:


I'm not so sure that it is such a terrible experience for them nowadays.

Almost all these things apply to youth, especially those who are drawn to drug use.

Higher chance of AIDS, unless they get tested and choose to have one partner only. It's about choice.

Higher suicide rate - definitely applies to youth. A lot depends on how they are accepted by society in both cases. You have to have kids to realise how the police stereotype and target them.

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Probably less so these days. I remember a time when a gay man would be run out of town in a country town like I live in. These days, they "come out" in the local newspaper. We had a local restaurateur who was gay. His partner was the barman. Everybody knew. Everybody made jokes, but it was one of the most popular restaurants in town. He recently shut up shop to move to the big smoke.   

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Again, that's a choice they make. A lot of people these days choose not to have kids.  My son and his partner (female) are both high flying professionals.  They don't want a family. Are they depriving society? Well they might be depriving me of grand kids, but I think Australia will do just fine.

Binary wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 4:33pm:


As I said, I'm married to one, and I even do all the basics (sign of the cross, holy water etc) when at funerals and Weddings. We were married in a Catholic church by a priest who was extremely understanding.

I don't drink, smoke, whore around or do drugs, and I generally do the best to please the wife.

You know of course that my wife has this life insurance policy that applies to me too?  (1 Corinthians 7:12-14)

But I also think that we need to respect other people who make a valuable contribution to society. On the subject of homosexuals, we'll have to agree to disagree.

We all have desires. What sustains a relationship is love. If those restaurateurs' relationship lasted 10 years plus to date as it did, I'd say that it wasn't driven by desire alone.   

Bobby. wrote on May 2^nd, 2016 at 5:25pm:


Oh that was a serious question? John phrased it better on the post after yours.
And I answered his question on the post after his.

gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26^th, 2016 at 10:48am:




God, gizmo, thats a fail for you imagine ttrying to use facts in an argument.

If God exists you'd figure he would be an Atheist.

Raven wrote on May 26^th, 2016 at 1:11pm:




He has an awesome sense of humour and a quirky way. Not at all common sense.

athos wrote on Dec 13^th, 2015 at 7:10am:


Hahaha. This is a joke post, right? Oh wait.

Seriously though are you just trolling? Let's talk about people as people rather than talking about this group or that group being more aggressive than others. I could go into great detail about aggressive things done by people and nations in the name of religion, but what would that serve? Understanding and respecting others points of view even though you disagree with them is the way forward for all of humanity, not dividing people into this group or that group.

One of the problems I have noticed in atheists is that they will try to use logic to argue their case. Surely some of them see the irony.

re: Atheists are the most aggressive group in the west

They are also the most privileged and protected group in the west obviously.
Atheists Are 0.07% of the Federal Prison Population

issuevoter wrote on Nov 24^th, 2016 at 10:35pm:


Yes it is the US. I wonder is Au keeps those sorts of stats? The police ask your religion when they charge you, or used to, so it's self reporting. Perhaps because religion is so endemic in the US inmates "become saved" and distort the stats.

There are other stats like those on divorce that show atheists are more committed to marriage as they have less divorce.
https://www.salon.com/2013/11/01/atheist_marriages_may_last_longer_than_christia...
Perhaps two Yadda dissertations? Oh please leave it to Yadda! One of him is enough.

Setanta wrote on Nov 24^th, 2016 at 8:05pm:


A survey of the scientists who were members of the National Academy of Sciences found 93% of them were atheist or agnostic with only 7% believing in god.
stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/news/file002.html

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 25^th, 2016 at 8:27am:



Athiests were in fact the forefathers of religion.

Athiests told you when to sow and when to reap through stories that were a reflection of scientific observations.

The religious turned it into something supernatural for their own selfish gain.

Raven wrote on Nov 30^th, 2016 at 2:14pm:


One of the best things about atheism or any other non-belief, is that it takes so little of your time and you can be free to explore the realities of the universe. 

Belgarion wrote on Nov 18^th, 2016 at 11:58pm:


Pol Pot was a moderately extreme atheist, but given the cultural context that may be an unreasonable contribution.  Stalin shot 100000 clergy from the Russian orthodox and he was white so i guess that makes him the winner?

Google;
do quantum physicists believe in a god


Google;
do many scientists believe in a god

issuevoter wrote on Dec 19^th, 2016 at 7:17am:



I remember reading someone once suggested that;

Life is a search for reason meaning.          



God is the 'destination',       in a journey where a human mind seeks [or, deeply meditates upon] >> reason <<,      ....in a reality [a life] we must endure, where a sane mind may come to question if there is any 'reason' to our existence.               

YMMD         

issuevoter wrote on Dec 19^th, 2016 at 10:54am:



Oh he is!

....if he will allow you to approach him!


[warning - here comes the scripture!         ]




Deuteronomy 8:2
And thou shalt remember all the way which the LORD thy God led thee these forty years in the wilderness, to humble thee, and to prove thee, to know what was in thine heart, whether thou wouldest keep his commandments, or no.




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Psalms 14:2
The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.


Matthew 6:33
...seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness;


Mark 12:28
And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
29  And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30  And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31  And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.


Zephaniah 2:3
Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness:......






Q.
What is 'the righteousness of God' ?

1 Thessalonians 5:22
Abstain from all appearance of evil.

Leviticus 20:7
Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I am the LORD your God.

Hebrews 12:14
Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

Proverbs 9:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Malachi 3:7
...Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts....

James 4:8
Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you....

2 Corinthians 6:17
....come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.

issuevoter wrote on Dec 19^th, 2016 at 5:39pm:



issuevoter,

You are so, so cynical!

How do you expect to ever get to heaven with such a cynical attitude!            




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Matthew 7:7
Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8  For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
9  Or what man is there of you, whom if his son ask bread, will he give him a stone?
10  Or if he ask a fish, will he give him a serpent?
11  If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?


Ezekiel 33:11
Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?


Deuteronomy 30:19
I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Raven wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 1:26am:



Post of the Day.

Needless to say, if 'God' was put on trial as a war criminal, he would be hanged just as they were at Nuremberg.

The 'Free Will' get-out-of-jail mantra doesn't wash any more.

issuevoter wrote on Dec 21^st, 2016 at 6:41am:



My definition of 'hell', is to experience the absence [of the spirit] of God.

And 'heaven', is [would be] to live in his presence.



Atheists, ya gotta pity them.

They've 'gone native'.

I don't have any problem with other people believing in "God," (what ever that means) except when it is a childish need for a father figure.

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