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Atheists are the most aggressive group in the west (Read 24617 times)
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Re: Atheists are the most aggressive group in the west
Reply #60 - May 2nd, 2016 at 4:57pm
 
Binary wrote on May 2nd, 2016 at 4:33pm:
If you aim to live a truly sustainable, ethical, moral life then you are already basically a Catholic.
Here is a good example of what Catholics strive for:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_virtues

Of course Catholicism is a very old religion.  At it's core it has been preserved over 2000 years.
As a Catholic sometimes you must have faith, and use the critical faculty that God has given you
to discern the meaning through what has survived to the modern day, and how it applies to you in your life.


As I said, I'm married to one, and I even do all the basics (sign of the cross, holy water etc) when at funerals and Weddings. We were married in a Catholic church by a priest who was extremely understanding.

I don't drink, smoke, whore around or do drugs, and I generally do the best to please the wife.

You know of course that my wife has this life insurance policy that applies to me too?  (1 Corinthians 7:12-14)

But I also think that we need to respect other people who make a valuable contribution to society. On the subject of homosexuals, we'll have to agree to disagree.
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Re: Atheists are the most aggressive group in the west
Reply #61 - May 2nd, 2016 at 5:09pm
 
John_Taverner wrote on May 2nd, 2016 at 4:57pm:
Binary wrote on May 2nd, 2016 at 4:33pm:
If you aim to live a truly sustainable, ethical, moral life then you are already basically a Catholic.
Here is a good example of what Catholics strive for:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_virtues

Of course Catholicism is a very old religion.  At it's core it has been preserved over 2000 years.
As a Catholic sometimes you must have faith, and use the critical faculty that God has given you
to discern the meaning through what has survived to the modern day, and how it applies to you in your life.


As I said, I'm married to one, and I even do all the basics (sign of the cross, holy water etc) when at funerals and Weddings. We were married in a Catholic church by a priest who was extremely understanding.

I don't drink, smoke, whore around or do drugs, and I generally do the best to please the wife.

You know of course that my wife has this life insurance policy that applies to me too?  (1 Corinthians 7:12-14)

But I also think that we need to respect other people who make a valuable contribution to society. On the subject of homosexuals, we'll have to agree to disagree. 


I suppose so. If anything I feel very sorry for the homosexuals. In my view they do not realise how they are harming themselves.
They're trying to get all of their desires met, but in completely wrong ways that are destined to fail.
It's like trying to tell someone else's child not to keep banging their head against the wall.
Then they get all offended for trying to help.
My problem is I take too long to shake my head and walk away.
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Re: Atheists are the most aggressive group in the west
Reply #62 - May 2nd, 2016 at 5:14pm
 
We all have desires. What sustains a relationship is love. If those restaurateurs' relationship lasted 10 years plus to date as it did, I'd say that it wasn't driven by desire alone.   
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Re: Atheists are the most aggressive group in the west
Reply #63 - May 2nd, 2016 at 5:25pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2016 at 7:21am:
Binary wrote on May 2nd, 2016 at 12:53am:
Binary wrote on May 2nd, 2016 at 12:34am:
If it made perfect logical sense by human standards to believe in God then that belief would mean nothing.
The reason atheists dismiss religion is because its impossible for them to wrap
their heads around the concept of faith.
The only thing this video highlights is the fact that believing in God necessitates
an admission of trust in him and how he has revealed himself to us.


Example: In the 1950's, people were recommended by doctors to smoke cigarettes for their health.
To the best of our limited human knowledge we considered this to be true.
Does that mean that in our ignorance, cigarettes suddenly ceased to be harmful?
Of course not!
Likewise if we consider ourselves able to understand and define God's will through our limited human capacity
we will always come to similar conclusions, that we fool ourselves into thinking are logical.
Assuming God is the creator of the universe, how can we possibly consider ourselves able to understand his will or motives?

A further example: Let's say I ask God one day to grant me a request.
"Let lightning strike infront of me then I'll believe."
Nothing happens. AHA! God must not exist then.
It's this faulty 'logic' that assumes we have power over God.
We can twist and turn that concept as the man in the above video does
saying that because God's word has come to us in a certain form
we can deduce that he is not real, because we decide so by our own flawed standard.

God does not operate under your parameters. This is the meaning of faith.



Are you talking about the Sun God or the sea God or the Moon God?



Binary can't answer me.

Was the question too hard?
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Re: Atheists are the most aggressive group in the west
Reply #64 - May 2nd, 2016 at 7:54pm
 
Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2016 at 5:25pm:
Bobby. wrote on May 2nd, 2016 at 7:21am:
Binary wrote on May 2nd, 2016 at 12:53am:
Binary wrote on May 2nd, 2016 at 12:34am:
If it made perfect logical sense by human standards to believe in God then that belief would mean nothing.
The reason atheists dismiss religion is because its impossible for them to wrap
their heads around the concept of faith.
The only thing this video highlights is the fact that believing in God necessitates
an admission of trust in him and how he has revealed himself to us.


Example: In the 1950's, people were recommended by doctors to smoke cigarettes for their health.
To the best of our limited human knowledge we considered this to be true.
Does that mean that in our ignorance, cigarettes suddenly ceased to be harmful?
Of course not!
Likewise if we consider ourselves able to understand and define God's will through our limited human capacity
we will always come to similar conclusions, that we fool ourselves into thinking are logical.
Assuming God is the creator of the universe, how can we possibly consider ourselves able to understand his will or motives?

A further example: Let's say I ask God one day to grant me a request.
"Let lightning strike infront of me then I'll believe."
Nothing happens. AHA! God must not exist then.
It's this faulty 'logic' that assumes we have power over God.
We can twist and turn that concept as the man in the above video does
saying that because God's word has come to us in a certain form
we can deduce that he is not real, because we decide so by our own flawed standard.

God does not operate under your parameters. This is the meaning of faith.



Are you talking about the Sun God or the sea God or the Moon God?



Binary can't answer me.

Was the question too hard?


Oh that was a serious question? John phrased it better on the post after yours.
And I answered his question on the post after his.
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Re: Atheists are the most aggressive group in the west
Reply #65 - May 26th, 2016 at 10:48am
 
Binary wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 5:26pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 3:15pm:
You may as well, because whilst your disagreement with gays seems to be moral, using dodgy facts shouldnt be used here.


If you bothered to read my post, you'd see its obviously moral.
We need to help the gay population with their higher associated risk rates both for HIV and suicide,
rather than promote and encourage damaging gay lifestyles.

It's not a dodgy fact, HIV is on the rise in Australia.
afaodotorgdotau/about-hiv/the-hiv-epidemic/hiv-statistics-australia#.VyMLhah96Uk

If your only rebuttal to my original post is to cry about language use then I'm afraid I don't care.


Actually HIV is NOT 'on the rise' according to the stats from your own link.

"AIDS diagnoses: The annual number of AIDS diagnoses in Australia peaked in 1994, at 953 cases.
AIDS diagnoses then declined rapidly following the introduction of effective combination antiretroviral therapy.

There are now few people diagnosed with AIDS in Australia and it is no longer a notifiable disease (i.e. required by law to be reported to the Health Department)."

http://www.afao.org.au/about-hiv/the-hiv-epidemic/hiv-statistics-australia#.V0ZG...
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Atheists are the most aggressive group in the west
Reply #66 - May 26th, 2016 at 11:09am
 
gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 10:48am:
Binary wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 5:26pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 3:15pm:
You may as well, because whilst your disagreement with gays seems to be moral, using dodgy facts shouldnt be used here.


If you bothered to read my post, you'd see its obviously moral.
We need to help the gay population with their higher associated risk rates both for HIV and suicide,
rather than promote and encourage damaging gay lifestyles.

It's not a dodgy fact, HIV is on the rise in Australia.
afaodotorgdotau/about-hiv/the-hiv-epidemic/hiv-statistics-australia#.VyMLhah96Uk

If your only rebuttal to my original post is to cry about language use then I'm afraid I don't care.


Actually HIV is NOT 'on the rise' according to the stats from your own link.

"AIDS diagnoses: The annual number of AIDS diagnoses in Australia peaked in 1994, at 953 cases.
AIDS diagnoses then declined rapidly following the introduction of effective combination antiretroviral therapy.

There are now few people diagnosed with AIDS in Australia and it is no longer a notifiable disease (i.e. required by law to be reported to the Health Department)."

http://www.afao.org.au/about-hiv/the-hiv-epidemic/hiv-statistics-australia#.V0ZG...




God, gizmo, thats a fail for you imagine ttrying to use facts in an argument.
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In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Re: Atheists are the most aggressive group in the west
Reply #67 - May 26th, 2016 at 11:17am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 11:09am:
gizmo_2655 wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 10:48am:
Binary wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 5:26pm:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 29th, 2016 at 3:15pm:
You may as well, because whilst your disagreement with gays seems to be moral, using dodgy facts shouldnt be used here.


If you bothered to read my post, you'd see its obviously moral.
We need to help the gay population with their higher associated risk rates both for HIV and suicide,
rather than promote and encourage damaging gay lifestyles.

It's not a dodgy fact, HIV is on the rise in Australia.
afaodotorgdotau/about-hiv/the-hiv-epidemic/hiv-statistics-australia#.VyMLhah96Uk

If your only rebuttal to my original post is to cry about language use then I'm afraid I don't care.


Actually HIV is NOT 'on the rise' according to the stats from your own link.

"AIDS diagnoses: The annual number of AIDS diagnoses in Australia peaked in 1994, at 953 cases.
AIDS diagnoses then declined rapidly following the introduction of effective combination antiretroviral therapy.

There are now few people diagnosed with AIDS in Australia and it is no longer a notifiable disease (i.e. required by law to be reported to the Health Department)."

http://www.afao.org.au/about-hiv/the-hiv-epidemic/hiv-statistics-australia#.V0ZG...




God, gizmo, thats a fail for you imagine ttrying to use facts in an argument.


Sorry, I must be out of practice..
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"I just get sick of people who place a label on someone else with their own definition.

It's similar to a strawman fallacy"
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Re: Atheists are the most aggressive group in the west
Reply #68 - May 26th, 2016 at 1:11pm
 
If God exists you'd figure he would be an Atheist.
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Reply #69 - May 27th, 2016 at 10:25am
 
In the novel, Venus on the Half-shell by Kilgore Trout, the protagonist meets God. It is a large cockroach on a throne, clutching a can of beer in every one of its leg-end claws.

The protagonist seizes the opportunity to ask the ultimate question, "WHY?"

God burps, and says, "Why not?"

If I had such an opportunity, I would not bother with un-answerable questions. I would ask, "Where's the cooler?"
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Re: Atheists are the most aggressive group in the west
Reply #70 - May 27th, 2016 at 11:01am
 
Raven wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 1:11pm:
If God exists you'd figure he would be an Atheist.




He has an awesome sense of humour and a quirky way. Not at all common sense.
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No evidence whatsoever it can be attributed to George Orwell or Eric Arthur Blair (in fact the same guy)
 
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Re: Atheists are the most aggressive group in the west
Reply #71 - Jun 1st, 2016 at 11:47am
 
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 27th, 2016 at 11:01am:
Raven wrote on May 26th, 2016 at 1:11pm:
If God exists you'd figure he would be an Atheist.




He has an awesome sense of humour and a quirky way. Not at all common sense.


I agree with you.

Now I feel uncomfortable lol  Smiley
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Reply #72 - Nov 18th, 2016 at 3:20pm
 
athos wrote on Dec 13th, 2015 at 7:10am:
Some studies undoubtedly shows that Atheists and gays are the most aggressive groups in western societies supported by Media, quasi scientists and corrupted "Politically correct" politicians.
Eventually Atheism is a disorder of human brain that prevents a person to be aware of spiritual life similar like epilepsy, Schizophrenia and so on.
Like people with physical disorders who can't see or hear atheists are unable to think intuitively, emotionally and creatively to realize a big picture around them. Like in animals their thoughts are only  focused on the senses' detectable environment without capability to understand spiritual world in them and out of them.
Traditional Chinese medicine explains atheism disorder as a luck of Che energy in curtain parts of the body and can be successfully treated by acupuncture and in modern time by hypnosis.

For both atheists and Gays treatment with acupuncture can successfully bring harmony and peace of mind to those people.


Hahaha. This is a joke post, right? Oh wait.

Seriously though are you just trolling? Let's talk about people as people rather than talking about this group or that group being more aggressive than others. I could go into great detail about aggressive things done by people and nations in the name of religion, but what would that serve? Understanding and respecting others points of view even though you disagree with them is the way forward for all of humanity, not dividing people into this group or that group.
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Reply #73 - Nov 18th, 2016 at 3:24pm
 
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I suppose so. If anything I feel very sorry for the homosexuals. In my view they do not realise how they are harming themselves.
They're trying to get all of their desires met, but in completely wrong ways that are destined to fail.
It's like trying to tell someone else's child not to keep banging their head against the wall.
Then they get all offended for trying to help.
My problem is I take too long to shake my head and walk away.


It's you I feel sorry for. You have closed your mind to other people and the things they need to lead a fulfilling life. They get offended because your offer of help is entirely misguided. Hopefully you will see the truth one day but you are blinded by your 'faith' and judgemental attitude.
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Reply #74 - Nov 18th, 2016 at 11:00pm
 
One of the problems I have noticed in atheists is that they will try to use logic to argue their case. Surely some of them see the irony.
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