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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Turnbull our longest serving PM? Reply #15 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:14am Well they must have done something or failed to do something themselves to get in this position. I'm afraid I can't afford any sympathy for them.
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Reply #16 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:18am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:14am:

Well they must have done something or failed to do something themselves to get in this position.

I'm afraid I can't afford any sympathy for them.

Yes, they fell foul of the scumbag, Murdoch.

Without Murdoch, the LNP would never have gotten a guernsey in 2013.

Nor would they have a prayer next year.

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Reply #17 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:18am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Kat wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:53am:

Never.

Certainly not if he doesn't dump the austerity bullsh1t, dump the far-right, and pull the party
back to the centre-right. Which it hasn't been since Howard took over.

The far-right are destroying both the Party and the country.

Talksbull MUST distance himself from them and their filthy policies, or he WILL sink with them.

Well he doesn't even need to campaign for the next term Kat. Labor are thoroughly discredited for the next four years, surely even you know that.

Wishful thinking. The disasters have started and the economy is still in trouble. Malcolm will serve for about a year.

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Reply #18 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:22am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:51am:

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-malcolm-turnbull-will-be-our-longestserving-pm...

Elizabeth Farrelly:
"Malcolm is different. His intelligence has light in it. I often disagree with him. We don't see eye-to-eye on tax, I'm suspicious of the TPP, I believe the sale of Darwin's port to the "private" company of Chinese government billionaire Ye Cheng was unwise and the approval of Adani's coal mine shocking. There is no moral case for coal.

And yet. And yet. Malcolm speaks to us not as a rabble of blithering chimps wanting their buttons pushed but as grownups, capable of considered argument, reasoned reflection and conscientious decision. For Australia, this is huge.

So here's my prediction. Malcolm – who like Beyonce is known universally by his first name – will be the longest-serving prime minister since Menzies. Possibly ever."

We don't see eye-to-eye on tax, I'm suspicious of the TPP, I believe the sale of Darwin's port to the "private" company of Chinese government billionaire Ye Cheng was unwise and the approval of Adani's coal mine shocking. There is no moral case for coal.

My experience is that this list just keeps on growing to the point where it becomes a mountain too high to climb.

Yet today we see Mal in his I want to be leader and please people mask. His normal obnoxious too arrogant to be believed pose - the real Mal - is no where in sight.

Just Like with Tony - the spots are all still there and will only be denied for a short time.

Turnbull with be one of the shortest term leaders. It isn't healthy for longevity when the starting point is that 60% of your own party hates you passionately let alone being dependant on a false impression and the risk of the electorate waking up to the con job.

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bogarde73 Gold Member Offline Anti-Global & Contra Mundum Posts: 18443 Gender:	Re: Turnbull our longest serving PM? Reply #19 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:30am Turnbull will be fine with his own party as long as he is a winner and doesn't slide back into Potts Point leftyism.
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Reply #20 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:57am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:30am:

Turnbull will be fine with his own party as long as he is a winner and doesn't slide back into Potts Point leftyism.

It's got nothing to do with "leftyism". That's just right-wing bias on your part.

Performance is a far more reliable guide. If Turnbull performs badly he is gone regardless of his political leanings. Utegate is a case in point. How Turnbull handles the Ashby, Brough and Roy issue could prove to be another test of his leadership if that simmering issue blows up into a full-scale scandal.

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Reply #21 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:59am

I think Turnbull will be PM for a long time, maybe even into his seventies.
Reasons
1 he has already achieved all there is to achieve in business now it's about the power.
2 he is a middle ground progressive that appeals to the swinging voter.
3 no mater how bad the Economy gets he will be perceived to be better able to manage it than Shorten.
4 Shorten is opposition leader.
5 the electorate are not yet ready to trust Labor again. The only reason the polls favoured Labor for the past two years is that the electorate hated Abbott more than any other Labor alternative.
Labors only hope is to dump Shorten, but o be honest short of rolling out Bob Hawke as his replacement I can't see anyone of the current Labor nob appealing to the electorate. That's not my personal opinion, I happen to believe Pliberseck, Bowen or Wong, if she took a lower house seat, could be good PMs, but it won't happen before the next election. I also don't know if Labor will risk another female given the attacks by the conservative media against Gillard.

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Kiron22 Gold Member Offline Australian Politics Posts: 896 Gender:	Re: Turnbull our longest serving PM? Reply #22 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:59am What this more likely means is that the media likes Turnbull so much they are willing to give him a free ride for several years. Turnbull, face of the biggest infrastructure disaster in Australian history, still hasn't had to answer any questions on his role in destroying the NBN.
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Reply #23 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 11:12am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:51am:

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/why-malcolm-turnbull-will-be-our-longestserving-pm...

Elizabeth Farrelly:
"Malcolm is different. His intelligence has light in it. I often disagree with him. We don't see eye-to-eye on tax, I'm suspicious of the TPP, I believe the sale of Darwin's port to the "private" company of Chinese government billionaire Ye Cheng was unwise and the approval of Adani's coal mine shocking. There is no moral case for coal.

And yet. And yet. Malcolm speaks to us not as a rabble of blithering chimps wanting their buttons pushed but as grownups, capable of considered argument, reasoned reflection and conscientious decision. For Australia, this is huge.

So here's my prediction. Malcolm – who like Beyonce is known universally by his first name – will be the longest-serving prime minister since Menzies. Possibly ever."

Did Beyonce give the clever country- that built the asian century- copper internet?? I think she was given professional advice that it wouldn't be good for business and so didn't Cheesy

... if I recall properly Wink

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Reply #24 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 11:15am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:52am:

He won't be a Menzies of course because that was the result of unique circumstances.
But if he plays his cards in the middle of the table he might get a couple of terms . . .after this one I mean.

His biggest challenge politically will be in keeping the Facebook generation off the protest pages and off the streets and he will only do that by being middle of the road, fair and non-controversial.

lol, how about the quality of political commentary from ay???

Not too shabby ay??????????????

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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Turnbull our longest serving PM? Reply #25 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 11:17am Maqqa wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 9:02am: He certainly looks good so far.... He's a politician through and through and that's connecting with the middle - which is where you win the election Yeh, because the middle want copper internet for their kids in the asian century we built:
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Reply #26 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 11:18am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 9:07am:

Kat wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 8:53am:

Never.

Certainly not if he doesn't dump the austerity bullsh1t, dump the far-right, and pull the party
back to the centre-right. Which it hasn't been since Howard took over.

The far-right are destroying both the Party and the country.

Talksbull MUST distance himself from them and their filthy policies, or he WILL sink with them.

Well he doesn't even need to campaign for the next term Kat. Labor are thoroughly discredited for the next four years, surely even you know that.

Just pretend copper internet never happened: it will all go away

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Reply #27 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 11:20am

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 9:20am:

How about you address a former PM with a modicum of civility unless of course you wish to place yourself among the echelons of the ratbags.

Most Liberals are glad that there has been an orderly transition to a leader who is more suited to government than opposition.

How about you treat outdated technology with the modicum of respect it deserves

(.. unless you represent foreign vested interests from planet accountant of course Roll Eyes

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Swagman Gold Member Offline Beware of cheap imitations...... Posts: 15095 Illawarra NSW Gender:	Re: Turnbull our longest serving PM? Reply #28 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 11:24am philperth2010 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 9:37am: Malcolm Turnbull is the best of what is on offer....Unfortunately the right wing of the LNP are not impressed....Malcolm just might get my vote at the next election!!! Moving to the electorate of Wentworth huh?
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BatteriesNotIncluded Gold Member Offline MediocrityNET: because people died for this! Posts: 26966	Re: Turnbull our longest serving PM? Reply #29 - Nov 26^th, 2015 at 11:24am bogarde73 wrote on Nov 26^th, 2015 at 10:14am: Well they must have done something or failed to do something themselves to get in this position. I'm afraid I can't afford any sympathy for them. Well if you represent foreign vested interests and their mining campaigns then that would seem odd!
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